November 27, 2012, - 2:40 pm

Major Hungarian Politico (& Obama Fan) Demands “List of Jews,” Jews Are “Natl Security Risk” – Holocaust 2.0

By Debbie Schlussel

Hmmm . . . Obama supporter – Check! Grew Up in the Muslim Mid-East – Check! Denies the Holocaust – Check! Compares Israel to Nazis – Check! Hates Jews and says they are a national security risk to Hungary – Check, Check, Check! And he’s a leading politician in Hungary. Welcome to Holocaust 2.0.

As I’ve noted on this site many times, Europe never became less anti-Semitic after the Holocaust. It merely had a hudna (Arabic for “ceasefire,” also means a “resting period” before the relaunch), just like HAMAS’ recent phony hudna. And, now, Marton Gyongyosi, who leads Jobbik, Hungary’s third strongest political party is demanding a list of Jews, claiming they are a national security risk. We’re reminded, yet again, why so many Hungarian Jews were murdered in the Holocaust and why the ones who survived didn’t return to Hungary.


News reports are trying to dismiss Gyongyosi as “far right,” but he is actually pretty mainstream in Hungary, and he got his anti-Semitic views from growing up in the Muslim Middle East, where his father was a diplomat. Gyongyosi was also a strong supporter of Barack Obama, according to Politics.Hu (“Hungary’s non-partisan international daily”), but lamented that Obama will not “escape the clutches of the Zionist lobby.” Gyongyosi is a Holocaust-denier with a record of comparing Israel and Jews to the Nazis.

This isn’t about left or right, neither of which has cornered the market on anti-Semitism. Plenty on the left in Europe are just as fervent in their Jew-hatred. Don’t forget how Lech Walesa, once Poland’s President and still a very revered Polish figure, constantly engaged in anti-Semitism and Jew-baiting to garner support and win elections. This stuff is endemic.

A Hungarian far-right politician urged the government to draw up lists of Jews who pose a “national security risk”, stirring outrage among Jewish leaders who saw echoes of fascist policies that led to the Holocaust.

Marton Gyongyosi, a leader of Hungary’s third-strongest political party Jobbik, said the list was necessary because of heightened tensions following the brief conflict in Gaza and should include members of parliament.

Opponents have condemned frequent anti-Semitic slurs and tough rhetoric against the Roma minority by Gyongyosi’s party as populist point scoring ahead of elections in 2014. . . .

Between 500,000 and 600,000 Hungarian Jews died in the Holocaust, according to the Holocaust Memorial Centre in Budapest. According to some accounts, one in three Jews killed in Auschwitz were Hungarian nationals.

Gyongyosi’s call came after Foreign Ministry State Secretary Zsolt Nemeth said Budapest favored a peaceful solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as benefiting both Israelis with Hungarian ancestry, Hungarian Jews and Palestinians in Hungary.

Gyongyosi, who leads Jobbik’s foreign policy cabinet, told Parliament: “I know how many people with Hungarian ancestry live in Israel, and how many Israeli Jews live in Hungary,” according to a video posted on Jobbik’s website late on Monday.

“I think such a conflict makes it timely to tally up people of Jewish ancestry who live here, especially in the Hungarian Parliament and the Hungarian government, who, indeed, pose a national security risk to Hungary.”

Gyongyosi, 35, is the son of a diplomat who grew up mostly in the Middle East and Asia — Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan and India — and whose office is decorated by Iranian and Turkish souvenirs. He graduated with a degree in business and political science from Trinity College in Dublin in 2000. . . . Jobbik registered as a political party in 2003, and gained increasing influence as it radicalized gradually, vilifying Jews and the country’s 700,000 Roma.

Well, he “learned” a lot growing up in the Muslim Mid-East. The Hitler-Grand Mufti of Jerusalem partnership may be dead. But the alliance between European Jew-haters and Muslim Jew-haters is ever increasing.

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We will soon get our own Gyongyosi, his name is Rand Paul, a somewhat slicker repackaging of his Jew-hating, Arab Muslim/Iran-loving, conspiracy nutcase cult leader daddy.

Adam on November 27, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Adam, there is no question that Ron and Rand Paul are neo-Nazis. This is not news to those who have followed their careers. Though Ron and Rand Paul sometimes talk like they’re patriotic Americans, that is just for show. They are, at core, rabid anti-Semites who avidly support the enemies of America and Israel–and their voting record proves it. Here’s the latest anti-Semitic tripe from Ron Paul:

    Ralph Adamo on November 28, 2012 at 3:44 am

Just to clarify, it’s both the right and left in Europe that have no shortage of Jew-hating SOBs. In America, the left has the vast majority of Jew-haters. The right, has a much smaller number. Futhermore, the vast majority of Americans support Israel.

FK: Ever hear of Pat Buchanan, Darrell Issa, Bob Novak, Taki, Joseph Sobran, Grover Norquist? All of ’em on the right and all given prominent exposure and gushing on FOX News, American Spectator, National Review, Tea Party, etc. DS

FrenchKiss on November 27, 2012 at 3:02 pm


    Anti-Semitism is an equal opportunity form of bigotry. And as Debbie just reminded you, the Right has its blind spot about anti-Semites as the Left does.

    And with continued Third World immigration to America, American attitudes towards the Jews and Israel will change. It may not happen in my lifetime, Debbie’s lifetime or in yours but it will happen soon enough.

    Let’s just say right now we’re all enjoying the calm before the storm just as we did in the 1920s and 1930s. Things are going to deteriorate for the Jewish collectivity in the future and any one who thinks otherwise is living in denial.

    NormanF on November 27, 2012 at 3:22 pm

      Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I never said the right does not have ANY bigots. REad my statement again. Then get back to me.

      P.S. Is that you on EoZ too?

      FrenchKiss on November 27, 2012 at 4:01 pm

      I agree with you, Norman. And while I know you aren’t halachally Jewish and can’t make aliyah, I really hope a lot of American Jews wake up and do so. Unfortunately, I see in my own family the biases that give rise to ridiculous excuses. My FIL is in good shape for 89, totally alert. MIL is dying and quite honestly, he’ll be a bit lost without her even tho he’s prepared. BIL is worried about him but he was so adamant in saying FIL could NEVER make aliyah at his age, even tho there are several recent cases of it being done successfully, that there is no hope of getting him here, unless he musters one last push of independence and realizes that medically, if for no other reason, he’ll be better off here. BIL doesn’t really have time to give him but we do and yet, BIL is resistant to the point he says we aren’t “family.” It’s all excuses but it may mean both of them perish.

      Italkit on November 28, 2012 at 6:43 am

        To make aliyah, you have to have Jewish ancestors or family. A lot of Russians in Israel are not halachically Jewish but are there because they have Jewish relatives.

        Most American Jews aren’t whom Israel needs. Those American Jews making aliyah tend to be Orthodox. People keep telling us the great waves of aliyah are a thing of the past. I don’t believe them.

        If people had listened to them in the 30s and 40s, there would be no Israel around today. The re-emergence of anti-Semitism in Europe guarantees that still more Jews will make their way to Israel in the foreseeable future.

        That’s the silver lining to all the bad news out there about Israel now.

        NormanF on November 28, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Gore Vidal, Roald Dahl, Rowland Evans, David Petraeus, Jim Moran (VA), Jim Trafficante…

    lexi on November 28, 2012 at 11:45 am

Anti-Semitism is politically respectable again. It costs European politicians nothing to attack Jews at home. In fact the exact opposite is true with the growing Islamization of Europe. Its the votes, stupid.

Left-wing Jews are hypocritical! While they’re right to attack Jew-haters like Marton Gyongyosi, they’re also the same people who without blinking, embrace the Islamic anti-Semites of Fatah and Hamas. They’re silent about the danger to Jews posed by the growing numbers of Muslims in Europe.

Gyongyosi represents just the tip of a very vast iceberg of virulent Jew-hatred in Europe today.

NormanF on November 27, 2012 at 3:08 pm

This jerk did not need any lessons from the Middle East.

Europe’s anti-Semitism has always been present. It was only between 1945 and the early 2000’s that the volume of bigotry was turned down, but the bigotry is in full volume, as Europe knows there will be no objection from the White House, as there had been under Reagan and even the second George Bush.

Jonathan E. Grant on November 27, 2012 at 3:25 pm

Given the brazen Jew-hatred and a general animosity/apathy towards Jews (and Israel) worldwide (all resulting from a profound ignorance of the history of the Jewish people), Israel should continue to make massive investments in the following:

(i) Mossad (I say triple the budget for covert operations) (ii) Iron Dome/Arrow/Sling of David (a.k.a. Magic Wand) anti-missile systems (iii) IDF (I say keep 100,000 personnel ready at all times), and (iv) Conventional and tactical (like the compact W-88)nuclear weapons.

(How to finance it: tax the religious tourists)

Since the world is increasing hostile to Israel, the Israelis must do what it takes to thrive and survive on their own terms.

BroncOhBummer on November 27, 2012 at 3:28 pm


The Red Army kept much of it repressed between 1945-1990. With the collapse of Communism and the advent of democracy, it also liberated the worst demons in Europe.

About the only thing that may attenuate European anti-Semitism is Israel’s emergence as an energy superpower but I don’t expect it to ever disappear from there.

NormanF on November 27, 2012 at 3:30 pm

The strange, disturbing thing about antisemitism is that it will stick around long after the Jews have disappeared off the face of existence.

Even if the Jews never existed, there will always be a need to create an anti-entity. Sadly, that is an animalistic trait that we hairless primates can never shake.

The Reverend Jacques on November 27, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Yeah, Reverend, let’s just chalk off anti-semitism, Holocaust, and Martin Luther’s Jew-hatred (he started it all) to some strange, un-named virus that we just can’t shake off, and let’s feel smug about it. In other words, just let it be.

    Cynic on November 27, 2012 at 4:03 pm

      Dear Cynic. Unfortunately, we have to live with a few unbearable truths.

      Contrary to popular belief, Anonymous notwithstanding, the internet is NOT creating a new new-global consciousness. In fact, it’s encouraging and escalating tribalism at a much faster rate. Go to for a fine example.

      There has been antisemitism (religious, political, racial) long before Gyongyosi, Hitler, Islam, X-tianity. Why? The hell do I know.

      As long as you have the Alpha Males in each and every cult flexing their muscles and calling the shots, you’ll get some strain of tribalism brewing up.

      Plus, there is no cure for cancer. Yet.

      So while none of these things can be resolved in their lifetime, we should be quite content to learn to live in the real world and deal with them.

      It is called getting a thick skin. You should try that.

      Love, Jacques.

      The Reverend Jacques on November 27, 2012 at 4:19 pm

        “There has been antisemitism (religious, political, racial) long before Gyongyosi, Hitler, Islam, X-tianity. Why? The hell do I know”

        A good place to start if you wish to understand why Tyrants have repeatedly attacked the Jews is “The Laws of Moses: Why the NWO and Globalists Seek Israel’s Destruction” at – about an hour and a half.

        “Plus, there is no cure for cancer. Yet.”
        There are remedies. Which is why I won’t donate one cent to any of the bogus Cancer Industry “charities” like pink ribbon – but that’s an issue for another day.

        Nigel on November 28, 2012 at 3:10 am

          Antisemitism started with Pharoh. Martin Luther was a late comer. Even the Inquisition had him beat by a few decades.

          Italkit on November 28, 2012 at 6:52 am

It burdens my heart …

As goes ... so goes ... on November 27, 2012 at 3:39 pm

Schlussel said thus:

FK: Ever hear of Pat Buchanan, Darrell Issa, Bob Novak, Taki, Joseph Sobran, Grover Norquist? All of ‘em on the right and all given prominent exposure and gushing on FOX News, American Spectator, National Review, Tea Party, etc. DS

Ever read my post that said there are far more Jew-haters on the left than the right? RIF – reading is fundamental.

Besides, your definition of a Jew-hater is someone who doesn’t want to kill every muzzie. I have a more sane view of the world. I’ve been to Tea Party meetings, they are not Jew-haters. With that comment, you are starting to sound like MSNBC. Get a grip.

FrenchKiss on November 27, 2012 at 3:58 pm

Gotta love it, Europe still hates on the Jews but its not the Jews who are overruning the continent. Last I checked, Mohammaed is one of the most popular names for baby boys in England and Germany. Cultural suicide is a bitch.

Mr. Lawrence on November 27, 2012 at 6:09 pm

its time to start thinking about why all the people all over the world hate jews in the last +2000 years

jeromos on November 27, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    Jeromos, you could ask why Blacks were enslaved for centuries until the nineteenth saw the end of the legal slave trade and slavery? Give us your answer for both Jeromos. Don’t be shy.

    Worry01 on November 27, 2012 at 7:54 pm

If his father was a diplomat for Hungary, the man was a Communist Party hack as well. Hungary was a paid up member of the Warsaw Pact until those countries began to collapse in 1989. Non-party members would not have been stationed to an area as sensitive as the Middle East back then.

Worry01 on November 27, 2012 at 7:49 pm

Actually, Communism thrived on antisemitism in Eastern Europe. Remember the purge trials in Eastern Europe after World War II, with the disproportionate number of Jews being tried, e.g. Anna Pauker, Slansky, the Soviet-encouraged pogroms in Poland, with the 1968 forced migration, etc. The Communists used antisemitism to appeal to the Eastern Europeans whose countries they had taken over. And except for a very brief period from late 1947 to the beginning of the Korean War (if that late), Russia and Eastern Europe not only opposed Israel, but financed Israel’s enemies.

Little Al on November 27, 2012 at 10:50 pm

It is critical that we understand WHY it was so critical for the anti-Semites to murder the Jews in Hungary, as much as to the know that fact itself that Jews were killed in such large numbers in Hungary.

The reason was simple. At that time, the Jews of Hungary represented the apex of intelligence and intellectual achievement in the world. Nobody, but nobody could hold a candle to them. With such a heavy concentration of Jewish brainpower, they posed a serious threat to the National Socialists. Although the Nazis nearly succeeded in wiping out that superior gene pool, even today, the Jews in Hungary STILL are the powerhouse brains and talent in Europe, though they exist in far smaller numbers.

Take a look at just some of the powerhouse intellects from the generations lost, and some still surviving today. Then compare this group to the Nazis, Muslims, and others that seek the destruction of those Jews. There IS no comparison. And that is the point. This is a short list:

László Bíró, inventor of the ballpoint pen.
Marcel Breuer architect
Dennis Gabor, inventor of the holography.
David Gestetner, inventor of the stencil duplicator
Peter Carl Goldmark, inventor of long-playing (LP) records
András Gróf (Andrew Grove) (pioneer of the semiconductor industry, former CEO of Intel)
Rudolf E. Kálmán of Kalman filter
Gedeon Richter, pharmaceuticals – inventor & industrialist
David Schwarz, inventor of the Zeppelin
Charles Weissmann, biochemist
Eugene Wigner (Wigner Jen?), physicist; Nobel laureate
Robert Bárány – Medicine;
György Hevesy (George de Hevesy) – Chemistry;
Jen? Wigner (Eugene Wigner)) – Physics;
Dénes Gábor (Dennis Gabor) – Physics;
János Polányi (John Charles Polanyi) – Chemistry;
János Harsányi (John Harsanyi) – Economics;
Ferenc Herskó (Avram Hershko) – Chemistry


Manó Beke
Raoul Bott
Arthur Erdélyi
Paul Erd?s
Lipót Fejér
Michael Fekete
László Fuchs
Tibor Gallai
Géza Grünwald
Alfréd Haar
Paul Halmos
László Kalmár
John Kemeny
Dénes König
Julius König
Imre Lakatos
Kornél L?wy (Cornelius Lanczos)
Peter Lax
John von Neumann
Paul Nevai
Rózsa Péter
George Pólya
Tibor Radó
Gusztáv Rados
Alfréd Rényi
Mór Réthy
Frigyes Riesz
Marcel Riesz
Lajos Schlesinger
Otto Szász
Gábor Szeg?
Peter Szüsz
Paul Turán
Abraham Wald
Eugene Wigner


Dennis Gabor
Theodore von Kármán
Nicholas Kürti
John von Neumann
Leó Szilárd
Edward Teller
László Tisza
Eugene Wigner


Antal Doráti
Adam Fischer
Ivan Fischer
Ferenc Fricsay
István Kertész
Jen? Ormándy (Eugene Ormandy)
Fritz Reiner
Sir Georg Solti
György Széll (George Szell)
[edit] ComposersPál Ábrahám (Paul Abraham)
Károly Goldmark
Imre Kálmán (Emmerich Kálmán)
György Kurtág
György Ligeti
Johann Strauss I (was not Jewish, but his grandfather was born Jewish in Buda.)
Rezs? Seress
Leó Weiner
Béla Zerkovitz


Ilona Fehér – violin
Annie Fischer – piano
Joseph Joachim – violin
Endre Granat – violin
György Pauk – violin
László Polgár (bass) – voice, bass
Ede Reményi – violin
Márk Rózsavölgyi – violin
András Schiff – piano
János Starker – violoncello
Mihály Székely – voice, bass
Joseph Szigeti – violin


Pál Budai, pianist, composer
Jen? Deutsch, pianist, composer
Ádám Fischer, conductor
Peter Frankl, pianist
Endre Granat, violinist
György Justus, composer, musicologist, choir master
István Kertész, conductor
Sándor Kuti, composer
Walter Lajthai-Lazarus, conductor, composer
Ervin Nyíregyházi, pianist
Georg Solti, conductor
Sándor Vándor, composer, educator
László Weiner, composer


Bernát Alexander
Béla Balázs, poet & film critic
Tibor Déry
György Faludy
Milán Füst
Andor Endre Gelléri
Oszkár Gellért
Lajos Hatvany
Jen? Heltai
Ágnes Heller.
Hugó Ignotus
Ferenc Karinthy
Ákos Kertész, Kossuth prize winner, (emigrated to Canada in 2012, due to antisemitic harassment and physical intimidation) Imre Kertész, winner, Nobel Prize in Literature
József Kiss, poet
Arthur Koestler, novelist & critic
Aladár Komlós
György Konrád
József Lengyel, survivor and writer of the Gulag
Anna Lesznai
Rudolf Lothar, dramatist
György Lukács, Marxist literary critic and philosopher.
Rodion Marovits
Kati Marton
György Moldova
Ferenc Molnár
Péter Nádas
István Örkény
Károly Pap
Giorgio Pressburger
Miklós Radnóti, poet
Endre, Nagy, creator of Hungarian cabaret
Jen? Rejt?
Zoltán Somlyó
György Spiró
Gábor T. Szántó
Ern? Szép
Antal Szerb
Dezs? Szomory
József Vészi
Elie Wiesel, writer, Nobel Peace Prize
Zoltán Zelk
Béla Zsolt writer of Kilenc Koffer

Ralph Adamo on November 28, 2012 at 3:27 am

    And a few Italians, but not a definitive list:
    Ernesto Nathan (1845-1921), Mayor of Rome from 1907 to 1913.
    Sidney Sonnino (1847-1922), Prime Minister of Italy from 1909 to 1910
    Leone Wollemborg (1859-1932), Economist and Minister of Finances in 1901
    Luigi Luzzatti (1841-1927), Economist and Prime Minister of Italy from 1910 to 1911
    Giorgio Bassani (1910-2000), Novelist, author of “The Garden of the Finzi-Continis”
    Franco Modigliani, (1918-2003) Economist and Nobel Prize winner
    Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco (1895-1968), Composer and Musician
    ***Camillo Olivetti (1868-1943), Engineer and founder of typewriter and computer maker “Olivetti SpA”***
    and many others…

    PRIMO LEVI 1919-1987, Writer, Chemist, Holocaust survivor

    Also, I can’t find any hard evidence that Enrico Fermi was Jewish but his mother’s maiden name, DeGattis, is highly suggestive that she was descended from Jewish Italians.

    Italkit on November 28, 2012 at 7:03 am

      Oh, I almost left out my father, Mario Lettieri who was a physician, pharmacist, painter, landscaper extraordinaire, builder and Super dad. There was nothing the man couldn’t do and when he did, he did it perfectly.

      Italkit on November 28, 2012 at 1:36 pm

      You may be right, Italkit, regarding the great Italian scientist, Enrico Fermi. At any rate, his wife was Jewish.

      And civilization owes much to the Hungarian Jews. Among the very top scientists working on atomic bomb under the Manhatten Project, three of the most important were Hungarian Jews: Leo Szilard, Eugene Wigner, and John von Neumann. (Other top Jews on the team included Robert Oppenheimer and Edward Teller.)

      Now, speaking of the development of such an awesome destructive weapon by the United States as an important achievement of civilization may seem problematical to some. But I want you to imagine what the world would be like today–bad as it is in many respects–if, instead, Nazi Germany had developed the bomb ahead of the U.S. Don’t think they were trying to do so? Think again.
      Today, Iran is the new Nazi Germany.

      Ralph Adamo on November 28, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    Great post Ralph.

    You are so correct. You know I often wonder how many Albert Einsteins, Boris Pasternaks, Ernst Chains (discovered penicillin which has saved millions including me), etc were either murdered or their parents murdered in the Holocaust ??

    In my opinion besides the horror of the Holocaust, the greatest tragedy is that brightest group of people on the planet were exterminated. Imagine what the World would be like today if it had never happened.

    I finally have realized that the MAIN reason for antisemitism is simple JEALOUSY !! Look at Israel–it was a desert and nothing and the Jews in 50 years turned it into the powerhouse of the Middle East. In Europe the Jews are at the top of the intelligentsia of every country and morons are jealous and hence antisemitism.

    The sad thing is that the bigots CAN’T tell you one bad thing that a Jew ever did to them (that accursed comic book The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and crazy conspiracy stories don’t count).

    jimmyPx on November 28, 2012 at 10:05 am

    Elie Wiesel came from Romania.

    My father came from Cernauti in Bessarabia – it used to be part of Greater Romania until 1940. Today, its a Ukrainian city known as Chernovsty.

    The Romanians had their own Holocaust and they were as intensely anti-Semitic – even more so than the Germans. My father and his sister survived it.

    I never really found out about what happened to my uncle.

    NormanF on November 28, 2012 at 10:18 am

    Eugene Ormandy

    lexi on November 28, 2012 at 11:50 am

This should serve as a reminder that the Jews only have one place on earth where they truly belong: The Land of Israel. Every Jew, everwhere, should always have for himself and his loved ones, current passports and easily accessed funds sufficient to pay for passage to Israel on short notice. Of course, one could move there now, but at least have the common sense that would have saved so many of Europe’s Jews. And fear not regarding Israel: Recent Likud party elections show a very real shift to the right. Israelis are tired of appeasing their sworn enemies, tired of two-faced career politicians, and tired of leaders who place the world’s approval of Israel at the top of their priorities.

Phil on November 28, 2012 at 11:40 am

Let me get my facts strait. The holocaust deniers claim no Jews were exterminated in WWII, but they accept the existence of Nazis. The Jews much have been very busy this past 70 yrs. building fake documentation of Nazi’s detailing their precise plans of extermination of Jews. German’s are famous for detailed paperwork and there are droves of it in existence. You can’t deny one without the other!

Rochelle on November 28, 2012 at 11:52 am

Hopefully,this clown won’t ask the American ambassador to Hungry for a list of Jews in America. If he does,he should turn him down flat.

Ghostwriter on November 28, 2012 at 4:57 pm

Being just a middle aged, somewhat educated, kuffar, infidel, heretic, former Protestant, white guy, I don’t understand the Jew hatred. It all seems rather contrived to me by those who just need to hate somebody and are too stupid and lazy to even find a deserving target. And, they’ve fallen for the unceasing, professional faux victimism of Muslims and those of similar ilk. They obviously have no sense of history either. There is a pretty fair chance that the world would be an utterly different place today had it not been for Jewish scientists and engineers before, during and after WWII. And, if not for Jewish researchers and doctors, a large number of us would not even be alive today. And, I haven’t even mentioned classical music composers and performers! I live in Texas and I’m always hearing “Jews are just as bad as Muslims” and they’re always hearing from me some very naughty personally-directed Texas profanity. I just figure that not understanding the hate is a good thing.

Pray Hard on November 29, 2012 at 11:46 am

And, oh, btw, can you guys imagine someone asking for a list of Muslims? Now, that WOULD be the sh*tstorm of the century.

Pray Hard on November 29, 2012 at 11:53 am

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