September 26, 2013, - 4:00 pm

Samantha Lewthwaite: Family of Westgate Mall “White Widow” Terrorist Upset Over Schlussel Site

By Debbie Schlussel

On Wednesday, news broke that Islamic terrorist Samantha Lewthwaite a/k/a “Natalie Faye Webb” a/k/a “The White Widow” is a suspect in last weekend’s massacre at Nairobi, Kenya’s Westgate Mall. Well, I’ve heard from her family, which is upset that I’ve written about and criticized her Islamic terrorist involvement, including with Al-Qaeda-linked terrorists from Mogadishu. The Lewthwaite relative calls me “sinister.” Hmmm . . . I’m the sinister one, not Lewthwaite who apparently murdered 72 innocent civilians and injured 200 of them?




As I’ve noted before on this site, in May 2012 Kenyan police raided the home in Mombassa where she was staying with terrorists linked to plans to attack Westerners in Kenya (BINGO!) and questioned her. Unfortunately, police released her, believing she was an innocent tourist. Once they realized their mistake, she had already fled. It looks like this attack on the mall was a longtime in the making and shouldn’t have come as a surprise to Kenyan authorities, given what they learned about Ms. Lewthwaite nearly 1.5 years ago.

When I wrote about Ms. Lewthwaite a/k/a “Sherafiyah” on this site, back in May 2012, I called her “a stupid, zaftig White chick desperate for a man, who converted to Islam and helped her British Islamic terrorist husband, while he plotted to blow up British subway trains.” Yes, her hubby, Germaine Lindsay, was part of the July 7, 2005 London subway terrorist attack . . . and so was she, despite the fact that publicly she pretended to be a victim and “condemned” the attack (the kinda fake you’d see on “Oprah” when that daytime talk pollution was still on).

Here’s an e-mail exchange I recently had with someone claiming to be her relative who contacted me upset over my writing, but not very upset, apparently, over the murders that Lewthwaite perpetrated in the name of Islam (I’ve kept all typos in, to preserve the e-mail messages exactly as they were sent to me):

From: Lavene Alvey
Date: Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 5:54 AM
Subject: Sam Lewthwiate

I have just read your email list of comments about Sam Lewthwaite. I am an in-direct relative of her`s and iibegin to tell you what emotions her family a re going through seeing non stop correspondene about Ms. Lewthwaite.. Yes she has done wrong however, it is not her families fault who sadly are reminded time and time again beacuse of email pages like your`s.

No thought is ever spared for the innovent/saddened families! If you had any care in your heart, you would remove your sinister email page about the woman.

Ms. L. Alvey.

My response:

From: Debbie Schlussel
Date: Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: Sam Lewthwiate
To: Lavene Alvey

Huh? So because someone has innocent relatives, I’m not supposed to
expose that they enabled terrorists and plotted to kill innocent
Westerners? Are you bleeping kidding? Where is your condemnation of
her and your thanks that she did not get to murder the people she
wanted to? Where is your condemnation of Islam and her life that took
a wrong turn when she chose Islam? Hmmmm . . . . sad.


From: Lavene Alvey
Date: Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:30 AM
Subject: Re: Sam Lewthwiate

Enough is enough as there has been more than enough main media coverage without the likes of you repeating what everyone already knows! Shame on you as you have not for one moment thought of the on going heartache for the woman`s Mother and Father, Sister and Brother!!!!!!!

From what I’ve read about Lewthwaite, she is a predator, and she doesn’t just lust after spilt Western infidel blood. I was wrong that she converted to Islam for a man. She apparently converted (at age 15) for several men, including one whom she chased after (when she was 11) in school in London, but he wasn’t interested in the Muslim-potamus. She since married at least two Muslim penises (including the one that perpetrated the London Tube massacre) and slept with who knows how many more.

Yes, I have a slight bit of pity for her parents, and yes, you cannot always blame the parents for how their children turned out. But not in this case. Where the heck were her parents when she began chasing Muslim boys at 11 or when she converted to Islam at 15 and started wearing a hijab and full-frontal Islamic black-as-death bedsheets? Don’t they–Andy Lewthwaite and Christine Allen–get some of the credit and blame for allowing this to go on, instead of parenting and removing their daughter from such an Islamo-infested atmosphere and reading her the riot act? Lewthwaite’s father is a former British soldier. So, he served Britain, but didn’t protect the West when he “raised” his daughter and indulgently allowed her to become Muslim. Her parents split when she was in elementary school, and broken families are the prey that Islam and Muslims often target. They, sadly, fill the void. If you don’t actively parent, don’t be surprised if your kid pursues jihad (especially as the West becomes more and more infested with Muslims because we did nothing to stop them). Frankly, I think her relatives should be publicly decrying Lewthwaite’s victims and apologizing for her behavior.

But don’t hold your infidel breath for that.

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36 Responses

“Yes she has done wrong”, that’s the kind of thing you would generally say if your relative ran out on her husband and kid for another man maybe.
You don’t say that after somebody has implicated in butchering people in cold blood at a shopping mall.
This dislocation with reality is probably a big part of what allowed the problem to develop in the first place.

Frankz on September 26, 2013 at 8:15 pm

Wasn’t the baghead also connected to the two black Muslim asslifter fascists who killed white British soldier Lee Rigby?

Rocky Lore on September 26, 2013 at 8:38 pm

I don’t pity this Mooooooslima swine’s family. They seem to only care about their loss (which is not much considering it’s just one Moooooslima sociopath…) and not the innocent lives lost to evil Islam. Eff them.

I will make sure I tweet EVERY story on her I find now. To get the word out about pig adherents to the religion of pieces.

It’s been reported that these Jihadis rented out a space in the mall for 3 months to stash their weapons and make plans for the massacre. Also, the Kenyan police are saying the bodies of the non-Muslims were horribly tortured in a brutal way…limbs chopped off, penis’ chopped off, bodies hanging from hooks and children’s dead bodies thrown around with knives still sticking out of them.

I have NO sympathy for these families if they don’t show more sadness for the innocent. Eff them.

And Lewthwaite lied, taqiyya style while all along being a pig Jihadi. She can rot in hell and so can her family.

The bumbling feds better keep an eye on Katherine Russell Tsarnaeva…she’ll be just like this Mooooslima sharmuta of Jihad.

Skunky on September 26, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    Skunky, I think you should notice that this alleged relative could not muster any real empathy for Samantha Lewthwaite’s victims, even when prompted. It is likely that the sender of the email is simply a Muslim who is not accustomed to showing even nominal contrition at the appropriate time. Samantha’s parents allowed her to run wild, and we are now all paying the price.

    Worry01 on September 27, 2013 at 11:51 am

Right on, Debbie! America is a markedly better place because of you and your tireless and often thankless reporting.

I’m making a donation through Paypal right now and urge everyone else to do the same. I only wish i could afford more.

DS_ROCKS! on September 26, 2013 at 9:18 pm



DS_ROCKS! on September 26, 2013 at 10:12 pm

Ok, so let me get this “Lavene Alvey’s” irrational thought, she’s blaming DS for what this Samantha Lewthwaite allegedly did? WTF? Here goes:

Lavene Alvey,

“Yes she has done wrong however, it is not her families fault who sadly are reminded time and time again because of email pages like your’s”

You have got to be friggin kidding me, with her not blaming her alleged relative for her crimes against mankind, she actually blamed Ms. Schlussle for perpetrating such terroristic motives! Unbelievable. This is like a rapists blaming his victim for what happened to her, because: “he was provoked of what she was wearing, she wore skimpy and short clothing which cause me to rape her, I’m not to be blame”, rather than blaming himself for his horrific crime. This person’s using the right-end of her brain-cells, where if you use the right-side of your brain, you tend to use emotions and feelings and sound completely like an unintelligent ignoramus!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on September 26, 2013 at 10:40 pm

    Hi Sean and Skunky and others…

    I’ve re-read the relevant passages several times and something seems off. I suspect the poster is a very clever troll. No one could be that stupid. Could they?

    Nir Leiu on September 26, 2013 at 11:29 pm

      Nir: yes, they could be that stupid.

      Obviously killing civilians is cool and pointing that out is evil. I’m following this.

      It’s kind of like negotiating with Native Tribal governments. Or, to put it another way, we would be stupid to give Mount Rushmore back to the Native Tribes that want it. And we are stupid to care about what Islamists think and feel.

      Occam's Tool on September 26, 2013 at 11:42 pm

Good on Debbie for calling it like she saw it and foresaw it as well. Muslimpotomus is an apt name for the filthy conspirator whore. Enabling the savages to carry out these murderous attacks is disgusting. I hope she contracts several incurable diseases and suffers an awful and slow death.
Congrats to the authorities that keep allowing these horrible savages to go free and not be monitored in their mosques and community centers so they can do whatever they want.

samurai on September 27, 2013 at 12:04 am

It disturbs me to end to see these creatures defiling such great countries that I’ve personally visited myself and was left with such fond memories of the great people I was allowed to meet in Mombasa, Nairobi, and the Phillipines these groups and terrorist organizations need to be eradicated from society however when we look to our leaders in DC these groups seem to receive more aid instead of condemnation just whose side are they on anyway?

MANGOG on September 27, 2013 at 2:11 am

The thing that is driving me crazy is how did these people turn a round civilized girls in to dirt loving pigs like them. She seems to have lost all sense and became imbued with hate and jealousy like these retarded terrorists. I just can’t fathom this. Would someone help me understand this????

G. R. Scharoubim on September 27, 2013 at 9:51 am

    GRS, it is confounding but not as difficult as you may think.

    It’s the same reason dopes go into cults…because they are weak in mind and need to be lead (easily lead…) or they have an evil inside that just needs a spark to start a conflagration.

    Also, a paucity of character helps these fools along. Many people look like they’re “normal” but so many have evil inside.

    And when an opportunity comes along where they can let it rip, they become enthusiastic adherents.

    There is NO part of Islam that is laudable or good. Not one little bit.

    Skunky on September 27, 2013 at 10:27 am

    It’s very simple … Islam is mind poison.

    Pray hard on September 27, 2013 at 10:40 am

      Islam drives people bat s–T CRAZY because it really is satan pulling their strings and making them CRAZED KILLERS!

      That’s my opinion and IT IS NOT CHANGING EVER!

      It is just ME AGAIN on September 27, 2013 at 7:15 pm

To those who have seen or merely heard about or know nothing of APOCALYPSE NOW (REDUX), this HORROR monolog by Marlon Brando imparts the core of what these Islamist barbarians want to instill in the dhimmis, infidels, and do-gooder Western NATIONS AND THEIR POLITICIANS. No longer do they fight against barbarism to defeat it and its proponents. Have we lost the will to do so?

Conrad’s “HEART OF DARKNESS” presents a simple message: “EXTERMINATE THE BRUTES”.

Lavene Alvey needs to recognize the brutes in her extended family. Have sympathy for the family, but recognize the depredation of the actions of Samantha Lewthwaite and condemn her for them.

Dennis on September 27, 2013 at 10:02 am

Couldn’t we say that about any mass killer? I’m sure they all have “families”, especially if we consider aunts, uncles, cousins and in-laws. Does that mean we can’t discuss any serial killer anymore? Besides, I suspect these “relatives” support her cause.

jerry on September 27, 2013 at 10:11 am

her family is upset well gezz what about all the families she murdered

martin on September 27, 2013 at 11:12 am

Engrish! How du I spreak it?

Jack on September 27, 2013 at 11:23 am

It is a sad comentary when the reporter of the facts gets slammed instead of the perpetrator. The family of the scumbag Muslim Lewthwaite are nothing more than enablers if they think that this nut should not be held accoutable for her disgusting actions in regards to the mall attack in Kenya. Are they led to believe that this Muslim concubine was just an innocent bystander in the whole affair? Hell Debbie’s right about this “person” being a predator of sorts because she chased dirty Muslim tail at an early age and started her conversion in her teens. Just like that loser Katherine Russell. I not only blame Lewthwaite for what she’s done but also her parents. They need to take a good hard look at their own behavior concerning their nutball daughter. This is because people like Debbie will not sugar coat what fools like Lewthwaite has done. If they don’t like what’s being said about her that’s just too damn bad.

Ken b on September 27, 2013 at 11:56 am

It perplexes me that the British, a people I genuinely admire, can produce such moronic and slavish excuses for women as Samantha Lewthwaite — and such a dangerous immigration policy as it has now. Enoch Powell spoke the truth back in 1968, but most of England, at least its political leadership, would not listen. It now is reaping the whirlwind.

Seek on September 27, 2013 at 12:21 pm

Lol @ “Sinister email page”, if her relatives are pissy, then you must be doing something right.

Big D on September 27, 2013 at 12:59 pm

The funny thing is that Debbie said little or nothing that was not said by the leading British tabloids, giant press organs with millions of readers. And yet her family apparently targets one obscure Jewish blogger in another country for criticism.

Laura Latini on September 27, 2013 at 1:06 pm

This is what they did to victims:

A police doctor scouring Nairobi’s Westgate mall for bodies after a four-day siege by Islamist gunmen that claimed dozens of lives has said victims were tortured before they died, according to a Kenyan newspaper.

“Those are not allegations. Those are f****** truths,” the doctor, a forensics expert, told The Star newspaper. “They removed balls, eyes, ears, nose. They get your hand and sharpen it like a pencil then they tell you to write your name with the blood. They drive knives inside a child’s body. Actually, if you look at all the bodies, unless those ones that were escaping, fingers are cut by pliers, the noses are ripped by pliers.”

Ghoulish accounts on the fate of the hostages have circulated Nairobi and there have been claims that the military was forced to blow up part of the Westgate complex not just to bring the siege to an end, but to end the appalling suffering of hostages amid reports that hostages were raped, and others beheaded and their heads thrown out of the windows.


This is what the White Widow and her friends from all over the West have done. We will find that there were terrorists born and raised in the US, and this is what they have done.

adam on September 27, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    The more details that come out the more adamant I am I will never go along with things in a hostage situation. Never get tied up, just get down and dirty and fight like a tazmanian devil and take a round or ten. Better than being tortured by animals. David Pearl convinced me a long time ago.

    samurai on September 27, 2013 at 1:19 pm

A neice of mine married into a family of crimuinals and for 13 long heart breaking years , while she produced babies and got into trouble with the police we supported her.. in the end it was too much and we disconnected from her(and her disfunctional children).It was obvious that it was my neices choice to live amongst meth dealers and users so she is no longer our neice and If the family of this crazed woman choose to support her then they are just as culpable for her connection to terrorists..
The killing in Kenya of the young Dutch woman who was due to give birth this very week should have been enough for Alvey Et Al to disconnect and write her out of their family.Not attempt some form of crazed sympathy grab…..

Aron B on September 27, 2013 at 5:44 pm

Debbie I am noticing more and more that there is a sad and distressing pattern with law enforcement. Whether its our law enforcement, the ones in Pakistan, Egypt, Kenya, etc. there is the capture of a bad guy that is wanted, is in prison, and then released. Not until days later, do the law enforcement realized their mistake and they try to fix their mistake by trying to capture the criminal. WTF is going on? Are the standards of hiring new recruits have have gone down to Keystone Cops level? Is it some bullshit technicality that some slick lawyer used to get the criminal free? Could it be moles in the law enforcement who not only turned their head the other way but actually aided the bad guys? It is possible a combination all that scenarios I just asked. Seems our police in particular are willing to waste time and money to bust some milk farmer who is selling unpasteurized milk but yet known visa violators are not even given a glance.

Mario on September 27, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    Mario, in this case I think it’s the pandering to Islam PLUS the kid-gloved treatment WOMEN get today.

    Women, especially Islamic sharmutas, are perceived as holy and clean and modest. ANYTHING BUT. So this dangerous Jihadi was able to fake out all the dopes who fell for her taqiyya and their mistaken notion that Moooooooslim women are pure and all good. Suuuuuure.

    It’s disgusting to behold. Hope people stop believing women are better then men. They are not and I read heaps of stories that prove that misnomer DAILY.

    Women know it and use it to facilitate the evil they aremore than capable of carrying out.

    Skunky on September 27, 2013 at 11:16 pm

I think someone mentioned here that her family (or someone) may be a closet Mooooooslim and so they (the horrible family) wrote DS with their dumb, sociopathic nonsense. (BTW, what the hell is an “email list of comments”???????).

An article in Brit’s DM just had this in their story…

‘According to neighbours, her mother, from Irish Catholic stock, has been seen wearing a hijab — an Islamic scarf covering the head.’

It also goes on to say her fascination with pIslam started when she had an unrequited crush on a Mooooslim boy at a young age.

DS was not wrong. I have learned not to 2nd guess her. She knows this stuff inside & out.

Skunky on September 27, 2013 at 8:37 pm

    Meanwhile Hussein Obama’s crew are arranging to funnel millions to shabbaz or whatever the f their name is…

    Nir Leiu on September 27, 2013 at 10:52 pm

Does Kenya carry out public executions? I know they do in small villages but how about Nairobi?

There are tens of thousands of Muslim sex groomers prowling every city in the U.K., rape drugs in back pocket. Some girls will fall through the cracks. Especially those with liberal, multicultural-lovin parents who cant afford to live in a decent part of town.

Dick Butkus on September 28, 2013 at 11:53 am

Debbie, as soon as the news broke about this I was waiting for you to speak. Im familiar with Samantha the traitor, mass murdering dog, but I had no idea that Jermaine Lindsey was one of the 7/7 London bombers. The media played down the fact he was Jamaican and a convert to Islam (both new facts to me after researching, his name immediately struck me as non muslim so I investigated) to the extent, that I remembered incorrectly all 3 of the bombers being Pakistanis, I now know I was wrong.
Lavene Alvey also strikes me as more of a black American name, so Im wondering if it was one of Jermaine’s family who has been in contact with you, but I could be wrong.
At least the family of the two Nigerian coverts who killed Lee Rigby said so something, I too was asking where the families condemnation was, and thank you for the background info on Samantha’s dad.
One thing is definately coming through strong here, and that is that there is none more radical than a convert. Living with the force imposed mass muslim immigration is bad enough, but to know that so many of your own are converting and willing to see you dead, and their families don’t even condemn their actions! Very bizzare and ultimately totally frightening. World turned upside down.

Robert England on September 28, 2013 at 1:53 pm

We are not ready for this style of atrocity in the US.

Commanche on September 29, 2013 at 2:11 pm

Why don’t you publish their email addresses so all of us can send them sensitive mailings to console them in their time of need.

Walter Smith on October 2, 2013 at 4:58 pm

Ms lavey needs to shut that abomination she calls a mouth .what is the world coming to .back in the day you would be deeply ashamed to be associated with such evil. Be thankful that we no longer live in the days of jungle justice when close family members like yourself would have been burnt alive along with the filth you call your relative in an African Christian and trust me 50 yrs ago you would have been hung along with the vermin you call family.

Balafama on March 23, 2014 at 4:27 pm

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