June 12, 2007, - 9:43 pm

Try Being a Christian in Iraq: Muslims Forcibly Convert or Kill Christians in New “Democracy”

By Debbie Schlussel
Hmmm . . . Is this the “democracy” our troops died for?
This McClatchy News Service report says that it’s only Al-Qaeda terrorists who are doing this to Iraqi Christians, but there have actually been plenty of reports of Shi’ites–with sanction from the Al-Maliki government–doing the same thing (why aren’t they also mentioned in this report?):

BAGHDAD, Iraq — An Al Qaeda-affiliated insurgent group is giving Christians in Baghdad a stark set of options: Convert to Islam, marry your daughters to our fighters, pay an Islamic tax or leave with only the clothes on your back.

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A U.S. military official said U.S. forces became aware of the threats last month and now have erected barriers around the largest Christian enclave in Baghdad’s Dora neighborhood in an effort to protect its residents.
Christians in Baghdad refuse to discuss the threats for fear of retribution.
But in Syria, where thousands of Iraqi Christians have fled, tales abound of families that were killed or driven from their homes because they either refused or couldn’t afford to pay the jizya, a tax usually levied on non-Muslim men of military age that’s been part of Islam for more than 1,000 years.
“Two or three months ago, we heard we were going to be forcibly removed from Dora,” said Rafah Elia Daoud, 53, who fled to Damascus, Syria’s capital, in May. “Not everyone got a paper with the threat, but we knew. The choice was to convert, pay the jizya or get out.”
Madeline Shukr Yusuf, 74, recalled her flight from Iraq. She said she didn’t have enough money to pay a monthly jizya of 250,000 Iraqis dinars, about $200. The insurgents were determined to collect their tax, she said.
“They wanted to kill me and take my gold bracelets,” she said, tears filling her eyes at the memory. “They tell us pay or give a daughter in marriage to a fighter.”

I’ve written a lot about the ever worsening treatment of Christians in Iraq. It gets worse by the minute. Unfortunately, the 7,000-plus new Iraqi refugees we will soon let into the U.S. will be dominantly Muslims who hate America.
Mark my word.
And as I’ve noted, we have no way of knowing who any of these people really are–if they tell our government officials they are X, when they are really Y, we must take them at their word.

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16 Responses

It’ depressing, to say the least, knowing that we are in a downward spiral and not being able to do anything about it.
I used to think that we were protected in some way, but not anymore. Many of us see a huge tidal wave coming at us but are unable to stop it. Those that are able to stop it are not willing.
This does not feel like a democracy to me anymore, it feels more like a dictatorship.
How long before the masses wake up? There is still time but it’s quickly running out!!!

TheAwakenedOne on June 12, 2007 at 11:31 pm

That GWB would permit the allegedly persecuted 7,000 America-hating Muslims in, while keeping virtually all of his genuinely persecuted co-religionists out, is the height of insanity, and shows just how far his administration has slid down the slope of political correctness in the last couple of years: trying to work with traitors committed to the defeat of our military and our country; turning a blind eye to everything these traitors say and do; whatever CAIR and La Raza demand, Bush bends over and let’s them have it; incompetence at ICE and Homeland (In)Security, not to mention the FBI, CIA, and elsewhere; an amnesty bill to legalize 20 (30 is more like it) million criminals, while restricting immigration by those who want to become Americans (who actually want to assimilate); talking to Iran while they actively engage in acts of war, and build their nukes, drawing their plans against us (to paraphrase H.G. Wells). The list goes on forever . . .
The only possible way it could be any worse would be a Shrillary administration (and it looks like that’s what we’re in for). I’d seriously consider moving to Canada, but doubtless the mullahs will want to take them out, too, when the time comes.

theendisnear on June 12, 2007 at 11:42 pm

You conservatives got us into this mess, Hillary may be the only one with balls big enough to get us out.

Norman Blitzer on June 13, 2007 at 12:56 am

It’s sad times when the president of France has more balls than the American president.
I used to give El Presidente Jorge the benefit of the doubt. No more. He’s a traitor.

Dan E Boye on June 13, 2007 at 2:01 am

The Iraqi army massacred Assyrian Christian Iraqis back in the 1930s. This didn’t much bother the British who were staunch supporters of a Sunni-dominated Iraq.
Then in 1941 there was a massacre of Jews in Baghdad called the Farhud. British troops were just outside the city at the time but Anthony Eden, then Brit foreign minister, told the troops not to go into the city to stop the massacre.
So Iraqi Muslims have been massacring non-Muslim Iraqis for ages. What’s new?

Eliyahu on June 13, 2007 at 2:40 am

Dhimmitude – coming to a town near you.
____________________________________
No, Norman – the MUSLIMS got us into this mess!
Wake up and get a clue, you must enjoy throwing out the name of Mrs. Bill Clinton and getting a rise out of us. You are the fool when you don’t realize who deserves the blame – and yes, she has balls – Why don’t YOU grow a pair???

CarpeDiem on June 13, 2007 at 7:21 am

Debbie, from CNA;
Iraqi Christian Persecution
Bishop of Baghdad reproaches West for Ôø?silenceÔø? in response to violence against Christians in Iraq
Baghdad, Jun 12, 2007 / 10:46 am (CNA).- The Religious Information Service of the Church in Italy reported this week that Auxiliary Bishop of Baghdad Shlemon Warduni scolded the United States and Europe for their Ôø?silenceÔø? in the face of the escalating violence against the Christian minority in Iraq.
Bishop Warduni pointed to the recent assassination of a Catholic priest, Father Ragheed Aziz Ganni, and three deacons in northern Iraq, carried out a week ago as they were coming out of a church, and to the kidnapping of Father Hani Abdel Ahad, 33, who has not been heard from since the day of his abduction last Wednesday as instances of this silence.
The bishop said that after the killing of Father Ganni, Ôø?nobody showed us any solidarity.Ôø? Ôø?Only the Pope sent a telegram of condolences and raised his voice to make know the tragedy of the Iraqi Christians.Ôø?
According to the bishop, Ôø?If this had happened in any Islamic population, the Muslim masses would have taken to the streets to protest and demand respect, just as what happened with the satirical comics some time ago.Ôø?
Ôø?Christians, on the other hand, are doing nothing while here they are being killed, kidnapped, forced to convert to Islam, to pay protection money, hand over their own daughters in order to avoid reprisals, or to flee, abandoning their whole lifeÔø?s work,Ôø? Bishop Wardumi said.

MQ on June 13, 2007 at 8:27 am

Did we open a can of worms, or what?
We either have to make Iraq completely and totally SUBMIT to our will, or get out. What we have now are half measures that result in us getting screwed from behind without the benefit, kindness and respect of a little reach around.
If we let these 7,000 Iraqis into the US, then the terrorists have won. If these people are unwilling to stay and fight, why should we?

zyzzyg on June 13, 2007 at 9:21 am

And what about the killing of Coptic Christians in Egypt?
When I lived there (7 years in all), we occasionally heard of Muslims killing Copts in places like Asyut and other upper-Egypt villages, but I doubt it ever got reported in the west.
An Egyptian Copt now living in Canada told he decided to move here the day his friend was beaten to death in front of him by members of the “religion of peace”.

stevecanuck on June 13, 2007 at 10:41 am

As much as I disagree with you Ms. Schlussel, I must commend you for continuing to highlight one of the most overlooked tragedies regarding our invasion of Iraq…the persecution of Iraq’s Christian population. As bad as Saddam was (and he was bad!), harassment and murders of Christians by the Muslim population was virtually nil under his regime. His repressive regime did their own style of persecution, mainly aimed at Saddam’s real and imagined enemies, but did not allow religious-based persecution of Christians. Now that Saddam has been removed, the country has become a virtual Islamic terrorist playground with civil war imminent. As a result, conditions for Iraq’s Christian population have deteriorated to an abysmal state, as Islamic fundamentalists and terrorists take over. I have several members of my church who currently serve in the military over there, and the stories they tell us are heartbreaking.
So yes, the Bush Administration, through poor planning for a very questionable military invasion, got the Iraqi Christians into this mess and they should work on finding some way to get them out. Iraqi Christians should be at the top of the list of those allowed to legally immigrate into America.

JibberJabber on June 13, 2007 at 12:48 pm

JibJab: While what you say about the invasion of Iraq and the deposing of Saddam is true enough, you, like Mr. Blitzer, continue to ignore the real culprits in this persecution: those who are doing the persecuting, the MUSLIMS! I don’t give a damn about their “reasons,” or their “rationale,” their particular sect, their grievances with other sects, whatever: their actions speak far louder than their words.
And we ignore their actions at peril of our very lives — their persecution of Christians in Iraq is but a foretaste of what’s to come, nationwide, in the United States of America. That day will simply come sooner should we idiotically elect Shrillary Rodham Rodham the next president.

theendisnear on June 13, 2007 at 1:05 pm

CarpeDiem,
You have your head so far up your ass, I don’t think you even know if you have a pair or not. Go read JibberJabber’s post and stop being a stupid fool.
theendisnear,
No one is exonerating Muslims who murder or persecute Christians in Iraq or anywhere else. And I hope these monsters will one day get what they deserve, but this is happening as a result of GW’s inept execution of the Iraq war and the beating of war drums by conservatives. – Some people would use the term ‘neo-cons’ but I don’t use that term for my own reasons.

Norman Blitzer on June 13, 2007 at 2:14 pm

FYI, the jizya is a tributary tax imposed on non-Muslims whose lives were spared by their Muslim conquerers. The tax was not levied merely against infidel males of military age, but extended to all non-Muslims – men, women, and children. It was even levied against the deceased. The tax was often terribly severe; the penalty of nonpayment was frequently enslavement or even death. The basis for the jizya can be found in the Koran’s passage that war must be waged against unbelievers until they embrace Islam, are killed, or agree to pay tribute and accept subjugation, abasement and “protection” at the hand of the victorious Muslims. The payment of jizya by nonbelievers is enshrined in Shari’a law, which forms the basis of the new Iraqi government, such as it is. As a consequence, the persecution of indigenous Christians in Iraq should have been expected. (The Jews would at present be persecuted with equal vigor, except for the fact that they were all driven out of Iraq years ago.) This, then, is what democracy in a Moslem country has wrought, and to which end over a thousand of our soldiers have died, and vast sums expended.

commonsense on June 14, 2007 at 12:24 am

Why CATHOLICS and the EVANGELICALSÖthe only Christians left anywayÖabandon their brothers to the Muslim ìhate and murderî machine known as ISLAMÖin various countries throughout the worldÖIíll never know.
It is the deepest form of betrayal and hypocrisy.
JESUS SAID, ìWhatsoever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me.î
The Apostle Paul helped the Christians he visited in RomeÖhe didnít abandon them!
CHRISTIANS need to establish their own independent military force, beholden to no one, to protect the community of faith, wherever they reside in the world. DONíT EXPECT your FREE WORLD governments to helpÖthey ignore the CHRISTIAN MAJORITY that elected them!

The Canadien on June 16, 2007 at 5:06 pm

According to the Koran Muslims must kill anyone who is an infidel (an unbeliever) if they refuse to convert or become a slave.

me (yes me) on November 11, 2010 at 1:06 am

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