December 1, 2006, - 4:29 pm

USAir Flt. 300 Passenger Pauline Klemmer Tells the Real Story on the Flying Imams

By Debbie Schlussel
Reader Paul S. and several others sent us this letter written by Pauline Klemmer, a passenger on U.S. Airways Flight 300, on which the Six “Flying Imams” caused problems and over which Islamic America is now in hysterics.
As you’ll note, she details how they were actually doing a dry run and perhaps planning an attack or something of that nature. Also note, her letter is dated more than a week ago. Yet no media interviewed her or reported her story. We’ve removed her address and phone number from the letter, the second half of which is a must read (we’ve put the important parts in bold):

November 21, 2006
US Airways Airline
To all news stations concerned:

In reference to the removal of the six Muslim gentlemen from flight 300 at the Minneapolis -St. Paul airport last light, prior to the planes departure:
I was a passenger on that flight, sitting in seat 5-E originally and later temporarily sitting in the front row of first class, while waiting for everyone to disembark the plane for a safety check. Having been on the plane, witnessed what transpired first hand and talked at great length with the first class steward regarding other facts, I am “ENRAGED” at the national AND local news reports I have seen this morning.
The facts reported are incomplete and inaccurate. This event was immediately jumped on by their attorney, who told the American people on CNBC they need to get over 911, stop being paranoid about Muslims and he even threatened a huge law suit against US Airways for the discriminating and humiliating treatment of his clients. I am convinced this entire thing may have been done to intimidate not only US Airways, but all airlines and airports in order to get them to back off on their security efforts. This is only part of the real story.
In defense of US Airways: They did a splendid job of handling the situation. No panic was created we felt protected at all times. They did not make a knee jerk reaction as a result of one passenger passing them as note as reported by the media.
Most importantly, the public needs to be told that there was a series of” many suspicious events”, which were observed by the crew and several passengers. The captain made his decision based on all of these events and not just one note.
Their attorney is trying to turn this into a “right to pray in a public place issue” and it is not that at all. He is claiming they were removed from the plane for praying in public. And inferring it is wrong to discriminate against them for this. Claiming that we Americans don’t understand their religion and their need to pray everyday at specific times, he stated that WE need to be more tolerant of their religious beliefs. He made a statement trying to draw an analogy of the right to carry a bible or a rosary on a plane. This is nothing more than a smoke screen to make this a human rights issue and intimidate the airline industry. They were already claiming discrimination to Fox TV news when I got home from the airport. Something does not smell right here.
This has all of the earmarks of a preplanned “set up” with their attorney all ready to go. I am sure their attorney has made a point of contacting all of you immediately, even last night, in order to get their slanted side of the story out first. Do not be fooled by this propaganda. You in the media have a moral responsibility to investigate all of the facts, not just statements you are fed by them.
I would encourage you to interview the plane’s captain, the first class steward and the gate ticket taker to confirm the following facts.
These are the correct facts:
The airline employee taking tickets reported to the crew that she felt very uncomfortable with the men and so she engaged one of them in a conversation to feel him out. I assume he spoke English to her in their conversation. She stated she felt uncomfortable with them and she felt they were extreme fundamentalists. She needs to be interviewed by the news media for her side of the story.
Several passengers observed the men praying and chanting near the gate prior to boarding. They were sitting apart from everyone else, behind the wall which stands behind the ticket counter at the gate. I was eating dinner while they were praying and chanting and did not observe this part, but spoke with a passenger, after we disembarked who has observed this.
I seem to remember hearing something on the news after 911 about the terrorists praying at the airport prior to departing on 911. If this is true then there is a legitimate cause for concern and doing so created an inflammatory situation. If it is their custom to pray at a certain time each day at sunset, they know this in advance and easily could have taken the 7pm flight, two hours later, doing their prayers prior to arriving at the airport. One question is: were they intentionally trying to create fear in the passengers by praying loudly in public, hoping to get removed from the plane?
I took a seat next to the men about 20 minutes prior to boarding. (I had been having dinner earlier and did not observe their prayers.) They spoke no English while seated next to me only Arabic, or what ever language they speak. One of the gentlemen acted very intense and nervous. He was on one phone call the entire time talking very fast while he passed back and forth in front of me. I said nothing to anyone about this, but was later told by first class passengers that this same conversation continued for at least another hour from his front row seat in first class. A man in the third row of first class told me he had a very uncomfortable feeling about this man.
Their seating arrangement was very unusual and it raised a red flag to the crew. Only one of the 6 sat in first class, with the telephone, although they were all together. The rest sat in coach. The second one sat in the first row of coach in front of me; I think another mid way back in the plane and the rest in the very rear of the plane. They were there early enough to get seats together but chose to spread out.
Another strange thing the crew noticed was the way they boarded. When they made the call for first class passengers the other 5 boarded as well.
The one in first class, which had been on the telephone, did not stay seated in his first class seat, but walked back to the rear of the plane twice to talk to his friends, during the delay.
One of the passengers sitting close to them in the rear of the plane overheard their conversation and became very nervous. I believe he may have been the one who sent the note up to the crew and captain. I was told later that there was mention of Ala.
[DS: Allah] and the word terrorists in their conversation.
A woman passenger, who understood their language, indicated they were making slanderous remarks about the American people, thinking no one would know what they were saying. This raised concern also.
The most suspicious thing, which has not yet been mentioned on the news, and needs to come out publicly, is the fact that the man in the first class front row asked for and was given a seat belt extender as did one of the men in the rear of the plane. This can be confirmed by the male steward serving first class on the flight. The strange and totally unexplainable thing about this request by them was the fact that neither of these men was fat enough to even need an extender strap for their seatbelt in the first place and the crew noticed that they not even put it on but placed them on the floor by their feet. Why ask for them and not use them, especially if you don’t even need one?
I was a witness to the seat belt extender on the floor in first class, as the steward asked me to hand him so he could show it to the FBI and the Police. It was a totally detachable strap about 18 in length that could easily be used as a noose around a flight attendant or passenger’s neck to create a hostage situation on the plane. With one in the back of the plane and another in the front and their people positioned in between they were perfectly positioned to take control of the entire plane with out any weapons. The captain, crew, police and FBI all obviously also felt this was a real possibility when combined with the note passed to them by an obviously shaken man who had heard some of their conversation. Put all of this together along with the fact that the ticket agent at the gate was not comfortable and a couple of other passenger observations it added up to a situation of possible danger.
Should the Airline, crew and captain be blamed for deciding to protect the safely of several hundred passengers after their lengthy deliberation of the facts?
No, it was not just a note from a paranoid passenger as reported on television, but many things that just added up to a very uncomfortable feeling. The airline, police and FBI acted responsibly, professionally and in the interest of the majority of passengers. Any potential law suits from these people are totally unfounded and ludicrous.
Doesn’t the fact that these men already had an attorney lined up to immediately alert the media seem like a “pre-set up deal” to get the airlines and security to back off and ease up on the high alert issue?
Did they even tell their own attorney about the seat belt extenders sitting on the floor? Probably not.
With all of their accusations on CNBC’s morning news about passenger paranoia put aside there is still no answer to a very simple question. What were they going to do with the seat belt extenders?
Why did they have one in the front and one in the back of the plane and why were they sitting on the floor by their feet and not in use?
I can only determine two possible scenarios:
Either they were planning to use the seat belt extenders to subdue hostages and take over the plane and were caught by their suspicious activities.
Or, it was done intentionally to induce suspicion and make a big public fuss to intimidate security at the airports.

They claim we have discriminated against them and they were humiliated. They fail to accept the fact that what happened to them on flight 300 was a direct result of their own people’s hateful behavior on 911, while once more trying to put the blame for everything on the Americans.
What about the human rights of the several hundred people sitting on flight 300? Most of the passengers were going home for the thanksgiving holiday. Don’t we have the right to get home safely for thanksgiving? Any psychologist will tell you they were simply trying to project the blame for this unfortunate event back at the airline in order to avoid any personal responsibility for their actions, or the actions of the 911 terrorists.
Upon watching the 5 o’clock news tonight I heard more about this incident. Now they are reporting the men to be clerics. Last night at 1 pm they were calling themselves scholars who were attending a conference. It would be interesting what kind of a conference they had been attending. I question, from my close personal observations of them prior to boarding that they are either. I would also like to see this investigated also. I believe there is a real story here that the American public deserves. US Airlines has been caught off guard by these accusations and is being painted as the bad guy, stating they will make their own internal investigation. Why, all of a sudden now, are they made to look guilty by the media? Only the media can clear the air on the truth here. They need your help and support in this matter.
Let’s not sweep this under the rug as yesterday’s news. I challenge the news media to investigate the real facts of these backgrounds, what had they been attending in Minneapolis as well as interview the crew and people involved bringing the real truth to the American public. They deserve the truth, for the future of their own safely. Please do not just let this mater drop. Thank you!
Pauline Klemmer

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17 Responses

US Airways did the right thing in removing these men from the flight and I hope it is a lesson to other muslims with similar ideas. If the airlines never back down from their duty of providing safe passage for the majority of passengers then flying will be safer. Its not discrimination to remove unruly and suspicious passengers.

Chuck W on December 2, 2006 at 9:42 am

Linked this. It’s indispensable.

Jeremiah on December 2, 2006 at 1:22 pm

The behavior of those imam thugs is indicative of the typical arrogant, and antagonistic Muzlum you see worldwide. It’s in their nature to be disruptive and to instill fear in the infidel.
The people on that flight, as well as U.S. Airways, were the victims – NOT the Muzlum savages. It’s part of the Muzlum nature, and certainly part of their cult and history, to intimidate and conquer through violence, fear, and deception.
You’d think that after 9/11 these barbarian savages would maintain a low profile and not try to intimidate people – but what would you expect from uncivilized barbarians?
You’d think that after 9/11 these barbarian savages would try to live among civilized people in a civilzed land – but what would you expect from uncivilized barbarians?
You’d think that after 9/11 these barbarian savages would try to become civil and get along with their neighbors – but what would you expect from uncivilized barbarians?
You’d think that after 9/11 these barbarian savages would try to overcome the “stereotypes” that Muzlums have and not always try to impose their will on the people of the land they invade – but what would you expect from uncivilized barbarians?
You’d think that after 9/11 these barbarian savages would try to condemn the acts of the “extremists”, and distance themselves from the modus operandi of scheming, murdering, Muzlum scum – but what would you expect from uncivilized barbarians?
Again, the passengers on that plane, and U.S. Airways, are the victims and NOT the Muzlums whose intentional, suspicious behavior triggered what happened.
These barbarian imams demonstrated, yet again, that Muzlums are INCAPABLE of living peacefully on this planet with anyone who is not Muzlum – their HISTORY demonstrates this very clearly.
I say; get rid of all of these primitive barbarians. Ship them back to the islamic shithole country of their choice. Let them blow themselves up and slice off their own heads until all of them are dead!

Thee_Bruno on December 2, 2006 at 2:34 pm

Sounds like they were testing the system – checking how much they could get away with before arousing suspicion.
As for the praying prior to / on the flight – all they’d have to do is inform an airport / airplane employee: “Hi, we’re having our prayer services at X time. Just telling you so you know what’s going on and so you don’t get freaked out. You can give us a higher level of scrutiny in the security check if you like just to make sure. Thanks.” And that would have been that. This was obviously a publicity stunt, trying to make Americans complacent about Islamic terror threats. The lady makes a very good point about how they had their lawyers ready to go.

Dan on December 2, 2006 at 4:49 pm

Great comments Thee_Bruno!! You hit a home run! The “Infidel” world needs to wake up to the reality of the threat we’re facing from the Muslim Nation. They’re on the march and we need to be awake and strong if we are to survive.

FreethinkerNY on December 2, 2006 at 7:41 pm

Deport them. If a judge tries to interfere, strip the judge of his citizenship and deport him too.

Peter1469 on December 2, 2006 at 10:37 pm

I think this passenger is being paranoid. Theimams I saw on TV looked pretty big to me, and probably did need seatbelt extenders in order to sit comfortably in their seats. They probably left the extenders on the floor of the cabin because the flight was delayed, and were waiting for the plane to push back from the gate to get all buckled in.
That one imam sat in first class because he was a frequent flier and had enough points for an upgrade.
From what I heard watching the imams on TV, they are obviously Arab immigrants to the US and Arabic is their mother tongue, not English. Hence, their extended conversations in Arabic.
Having said all of this, I am well aware of the feelings of fear that many passengers might have had upon seeing these bearded men in view of the 9/11 attacks. This is understandable. The imams should have been more aware of this and refrained from praying in public at the gate, and tried to minimize their use of Arabic.

Rasheed's World on December 3, 2006 at 5:21 am

Rasheed- What you are saying is possible, though being paranoid does not mean there isn’t a threat. Pauline makes excellent points and the media should ask the questions she’s asking. Who knows if they asked for seat belt extenders on the flight they eventually took? Anyone?

JBarsimson on December 3, 2006 at 8:27 am

Thanks, FreethinkerNY. You’re right on the money, as well.
Rasheed the Muzlum vomited;
“I think this passenger is being paranoid. Theimams I saw on TV looked pretty big to me, and probably did need seatbelt extenders in order to sit comfortably in their seats.”
The passengers on that flight said that most of the imams were not overweight, specifically, the ones who requested the belt extenders. Did you see ALL of the barbarian imams, Rasheed the Muzlum?
“That one imam sat in first class because he was a frequent flier and had enough points for an upgrade.”
How do you know this? Where was this reported?
BTW, why did all of them board at once when the attendant only requested first class boarding?
“From what I heard watching the imams on TV, they are obviously Arab immigrants to the US and Arabic is their mother tongue, not English. Hence, their extended conversations in Arabic.”
What difference does this make? Can you explain why they were making anti-American statements in Arabic? Can you explain their behavior on the plane? BTW, they can speak English – they used it very well at their press conference.
Rasheed the Muzlum is your typical Muzlum apologist for your typical Muzlum terrorist.
Rasheed the Muzlum can’t condemn the actions of these imams because he’s your typical “moderate” Muzlum that we’re always hearing about.
Rasheed the Muzlum is busy with his head up the ass of the Muzlum in front of him while praying on all fours at his mosque, a/k/a, weapons depot. His head is so far up the other guy’s ass, he can’t get his two brain cells to function properly.

Thee_Bruno on December 3, 2006 at 9:16 am

BTW, Rasheed the Muzlum, Pauline wasn’t the only passenger who felt that way. The whole plane applauded whne the police took those savages off the plane.
You’re a real POS.

Thee_Bruno on December 3, 2006 at 9:18 am

The aclu had their banner up before the cameras arrived. Don’t tell me this wasn’t staged. I will NOT be holding my breath, waiting for the MSM to tell Pauline’s side, or present the other passengers viewpoints, or the marshalls. Or to investigate this “setup”, which they may have perpetrated themeselves. On the other hand, I encourage the aclu to continue supporting as many phony causes as possible. Eventually they will run out of money leaving America a safer and better place to live in.

jeebie on December 3, 2006 at 5:55 pm

Does anyone know if any of the aired news reports stated what citizenships the scholars/imams/terrorists hold?

MarySJ on December 4, 2006 at 7:52 am

I have no doubt that the intentional gloss over by most of the American news media, of this and other disturbing news stories of odd and suspicious behavior by Muslims, coupled with the apathetic attitude of so many Americans over events like this, is going to result in a deadly and devastating attack on America by Muslim terrorists.
No, this isnít paranoia. This is a deduction by a simple man who walks around with his eyes and ears open. This is a deduction by a simple man who is capable of ìconnecting the dotsî left by seemingly unrelated events orchestrated by Muslims in America. Iím not accusing the six imams of being terrorists, but I strongly believe they have sympathy for Muslim terrorism. Why else would they have acted the way they did at that airport and on that plane?
By aggressively demonstrating their Islamism publicly, Muslims hope to force Americans into accepting Muslim aggression. Once you have accepted aggression, you have left yourself open to domination. And world domination is the goal of Islam.

Rocky on December 4, 2006 at 12:36 pm

I think it’s time to do some surrepititiously filmed focus groups starring a group of actors behaving in the same manner. Said film then to be shown all over the country to elicit the only opinions that count: those of Americans with I.Q.s of at least double digits (the opinions of trail lawyers will also be dismissed).
And THEN, the film should be shown (continuously looped) in EVERY American airport. The crawler on the bottom of the screen should say, “If you see anyone acting in this manner, please report it to the nearest law enforcement or security officer immediately”.
Personally, had I overheard these animals, I would have yelled out, “BOMB? What Bomb?”
“Honest, officer I could have sworn I heard them whisper the “B” word!”

Rocketman on December 4, 2006 at 4:00 pm

Rasheed comes by and very politely explains what he thought was happening, even adding that he understood the passengers concerns. For his efforts, he gets called a POS.
Thee_bruno is a fine example of how nuch more civilized Americans are than those “Muzlums.”

Nick Danger on December 5, 2006 at 11:29 am

This really is a no-brainer and right on schedule.
1) John Conyers and his bill HR 288 will be reintroduced, he has stated. Rep. John Conyers (D.-Mich.), incoming chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. Conyers has also masterminded House Resolution 288, which Ôø?calls upon local, State, and Federal authorities to work to prevent bias-motivated crimes and acts against all individuals, including those of the Islamic faith.Ôø? Read the text and the idiots that support it in comments here:
Conyer’s Site:
(See Debbie’s article here about the Mormans Fund Raising and Conyers applauding kids beheading Israeli’s and Americans).
Then add Pelosi’s comments where announced her intention to “correct the Patriot Act,” and says: “Since September 11, many Muslim Americans have been subjected to searches at airports and other locations based upon their religion and national origin. We must make it illegal.” If she succeeds, any Muslim who is searched at an airport at any time will be able to claim that he is being illegally profiled. She is insane!
Add Keith Ellison’s election, and Debbie’s other article in the NY Post 11-16
TERROR-FRIENDLY GOP LEADER? about Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif).
Then add the suspected terrorists tossed on flights earlier this year in Spain, Amsterdam, and the ‘T-Shirt Terrorist’, Raed Jarrar, that Debbie also spilled the beans on.
Then read this article by Laura Mansfield about the discussion in a mosque (Arabic session) where they laughed about scaring passangers and how another just walked by security as his buddy distracted them with his behavior.
Jihad in Small Town America: Part I of a Series
Then MSNBC Contessa Brewer compared these imams to ROSA PARKS and civil disobendiance with interview with CAIR Rep!
Muslim Imams: The New Rosa Parks? by Robert Spencer
It is ALL designed to deflect attention and maybe make it ILLEGAL to question Muslims about anything, anywhere, anytime – then boom, boom, boom, Out go the lights!

Grateful1 on December 6, 2006 at 4:15 am

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