January 27, 2011, - 12:29 pm

“Number of US Muslims to More Than Double”: Warned Ya

By Debbie Schlussel

For more than a decade–well before 9/11–I’ve warned that because we do nothing and because authorities like Bush and Obama increased Muslim immigration to America, their numbers would increase through immigration and the fact that their women have the single purpose of high-birthrate mass production baby machines.  And, as I’ve always said, it makes no difference that our soldiers are fighting pointless fights over there while they slowly but surely take over here.  When Barack Obama lectured America in the State of the Union that “American Muslims are part of the American family,” the real truth is that they are a foreign cancer that has invaded America.  Their cells are not only multiplying faster and faster, but Islam in America has metastasized.  It is only a matter of slowing it down. Now, the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life finds that–IF Islamic immigration (legal and illegal) and high birthrates continue (and that’s a pretty good bet, based on our inaction on these issues)–Muslims in America will more than double their numbers by 2030.


We already see how–as a tiny, vocal minority–they’ve imposed their intolerance and backward ways on this country.  Just imagine how much worse it will get when their numbers double and their critical mass is that much closer.

Muslims will be more than one-quarter of the Earth’s population by 2030, according to a study released today.

The number of U.S. Muslims will more than double, so you are as likely to know a Muslim here in 20 years as you are to know someone Jewish or Episcopalian today.

Those are among key findings in “The Future of the Global Muslim Population,” the first comprehensive examination of Muslims, whose numbers have been growing at a faster rate than all other groups combined.

“We’re not surprised. Our mosques and schools are already overflowing,” says Imam Johari Abdul-Malik, outreach director of a mosque in Falls Church, Va.

The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life analyzed statistics from United Nations data and census material from more than 200 countries and studies by 50 international demographers.

If immigration patterns and Muslims’ comparatively higher birth rates continue, Pew projects:

•U.S. Muslims will go from a tiny minority now, less than 1% of the nation, to 1.7%. That’s a jump from 2.6 million people in 2010 to 6.2 million.

Muslim immigration to the USA and Muslims’ share of all new legal permanent residents will continue to rise. Most of the immigrants will arrive from South Asia, the Middle East and Africa.

•Though 64.5% of U.S. Muslims today were born abroad, that percentage will fall to 55% as the number of native-born Muslims rises.

•Worldwide, Muslims will climb from 23.4% to 26.4% of the population, going from 1.6 billion people in 2010 to 2.2 billion in 2030, concentrated in Muslim-majority countries. . . .

In several northern and eastern European nations, the percentage of Muslims will near or pass 10%, raising their political and cultural clout, particularly in urban areas.

Alan Cooperman, Pew Forum associate director of research, says the Muslim rate is “growing but slowing” and political and economic uncertainties can make dramatic shifts in projections.

Below is a graph of the Pew numbers of Muslims around the world and their predicted levels in 2030.  I think those numbers–in many cases–are too low.  In France, it’s well known that Muslims are already at least 17-20% of the country.  And, in fact, the French can’t even put a solid number on it because they’ve allowed so many Muslim illegal aliens to invade their shores.  The same goes for Britain.  The numbers look low for a place where Mohammed is the most popular birth name.  Sorry, but I’m not buying that they are only 4.6% of the population there.

The people who did this study said they can’t predict levels of extremism or religiosity in Muslims in America. But that’s an irrelevant question. It’s like asking how many fat people weigh less than 100 pounds. As we all know, the dominant strain of Islam around the world–whether Shi’ite or Sunni Islam–is extremist. The majority of Muslims openly support Hezbollah and HAMAS and idolize Bin Laden. They cheered the 9/11 attacks from Ramallah to Paterson, New Jersey, to Dearbornistan, Michigan.  We know that you’d be hard-pressed to find a single Muslim cleric or community leader in America who will openly condemn HAMAS or Hezbollah.

Pew is the same organization that found that at least a third of American Muslims–particularly younger and immigrant Muslims–support violent jihad, including homicide bombing attacks on innocent civilians. We have every reason to believe that the majority of Muslims–as more are born here and more are allowed to invade our borders–will be every bit as extremist, if not more so. That’s just Islam, plain and simple. To say otherwise is to be in denial.

If you are not bothered by the projected increase in Muslims in America, then you should ask yourself:  do I want cars burning and riots in the streets every year like they have in Paris?  Do I want Muslims controlling elections and municipalities like they do in many locations in Europe and throughout the Middle East?  Do I want to wear a niqab (full-ninja face-veil) and pay the jizya (tax on non-Muslims)?  If you don’t think a growing Muslim population will ultimately–in a few generations–end up with these things, then you have your head buried in the sand.

The handwriting is on the wall.  When will we deal with it?  It is already too late.  You will not see these things, but your grandchildren and great-children and their progeny will.  Is that okay with you?

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59 Responses

you are crying wolf for nor reason. 2.6 to 6.2 is a miniscule part of the population.

You didnt mention that 6.2 is about the same amount of Jews in the United States as well.

The muslims kill themselves and each other off too quickly for use to really care.
And the article you are quoting clearly states that the growth will not end up being more than that as they modernize the number will taper off like what has happened in history with countless other religions.

Lately your stuff has been more crying wolf hatred than actual factual arguments and responses.

Sterling on January 27, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    It is hardly crying wolf. This pattern has played out in Franch, Germany, the U.K., Belgium, and the Netherlands. Since you like facts, try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Muslim_population

    According to Pew, only 2.7% of the United Kingdom’s population is Muslim, but the impact it has has on that society is unimaginable. The Netherlands is blessed with 5.7% of its population being Muslim, and we can see that that did for Theo Van Gogh.

    So, spare us the taqqiya my friend. It really doesn’t work anymore. In fact, your effort simply makes you more suspicious.

    worry01 on January 27, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    Sterling – get your head out of the sand and your ass – youll be the one crying when you have sharia jammed down your throat – wanna wake up to a mega mosque beside your home?…you want your children being the minority in school – almost there idiot – look around you and take a real hard look – better wake up and start paying a little more attention to “reality” – obviously you need a huge dose of it.

    BIG IRISH on January 27, 2011 at 11:46 pm

      I wanna say something to the author and to all who believe is the so called “Democracy”:The Muslims were here and they will be, The Muslims are NOT criminals like you and your ancestors who killed millions of native Indians(this already a big shame to shut your dirty mouth), before you talk about Muslims, ask yourself if you are clean and in a position to attack them, Islam will take over, you want it or not, this is the god will, 2 billion of Muslims and counting……..

      nadjib on August 22, 2014 at 4:42 am

Debbie – when listing those things that will happen with an ever increasing population of Muslims you missed two of the biggies. Honor killings (Which you have written about previously) and FGM.

We have also had a case in New Jersey where a judge would not rule against a husband for raping his wife because the rape was allowed under Islamic law (Thank G-d the ruling was overturned on appeal). Look for more of this also.

I_AM_ME on January 27, 2011 at 12:48 pm

just the facts…

Islam is NOT a religon of peace…


If my grandma had balls she would be my grandpa…

hill billy on January 27, 2011 at 12:51 pm

They are like the Borg! However we can stop this and reverse it in 2012 if we elect the right people.

Lonewolf on January 27, 2011 at 12:53 pm

Sterling, your a putz man, you really don’t see what’s going on around you do you? Debbie once again is giving out the “FACTS” about muslim immigration, and moronic liberals like you attack her for telling it like it is. Sterling, I have a question for you schmuck, do you want muslims from terrorist supporting countries in the middle east to come migrate here and collect welfare (yes, that’s a fact, some of them don’t work or don’t want to work), do all types of plots against us all (including you Sterling), pervert and use our laws and wanting to turn this great republic into a islamic-theocracy state, etc.

Debbie isn’t crying wolf you moron, she’s exposing on what’s really going on, but morons like you have your head in the sand and be like the three monkeys, ie, see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil! As I’ve said before on this site, if god-forbid the islamist attack us again, the islamist zealots will target liberals like Sterling, and Sterling will be begging for the US military, conservatives with firearms, etc. to save his ass from the radical muslims who either want to kill him or convert him. WAKE THE HELL UP STERLING! Clearly your aiding and embetting the meltdown of this country!

“A nation is identified by it’s borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on January 27, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    haha, I served in the Israeli military. I have actually gone out and done something rather than debate it on comps and id rather fight these people with actual facts rather than skewed statistics stated her in order to rile up people like you 😉
    Take a deep breath and read the actual study.

    The New York Times article debbie got this from was titled: Report offers Surprises on Muslims Growth:
    Heres the link http://nyti.ms/hV8Ffd

    It was written to show that there is no way the Muslims are going to gain more than a 5 or 6 percent population which is in no way worrisome,.

    Calm down. Debbie has good stuff but based on this article and past ones she needs to take a basic college level Stats course.

    Sterling on January 27, 2011 at 1:40 pm

      Sterling sez:

      “haha, I served in the Israeli military. I have actually gone out and done something…”

      Spare me. The Israeli military is best known for kicking Jews out of their homes, not for winning wars against Muslims (which the IDF has not done for years). Its leadership is totally politicized, mostly leftist, and mainly either incompetent, indifferent, or antagonistic to Jewish life, as shown most recently with the Mavi Marmara incident.

      “… and id rather fight these people with actual facts rather than skewed statistics stated her in order to rile up people like you 😉
      Take a deep breath and read the actual study.”

      What skew, pray tell? The Muslim percentage is indeed going up. It takes only the tiniest percent to cause trouble. Israel has “only” 15% Muslims within the Green Line and it’s a garrison state.

      “The New York Times article . . . was written to show that there is no way the Muslims are going to gain more than a 5 or 6 percent population which is in no way worrisome.”

      Oh yes, it most definitely is worrisome.

      “Calm down. Debbie has good stuff but based on this article and past ones she needs to take a basic college level Stats course.”

      And you need to get a real education–which is nearly impossible in Israel’s universities.

      skzion on January 27, 2011 at 6:16 pm

I’m a Dutch. and yes Majority muslims in here is radical and they always using violence to get what they want including Implementation of Sharia Law in Our constution.

Honestly, I’m a liberal and can accept any cultures and religions in my country. But I can’t lie to my heart that this peoples is anti-peace person and want domination in our country.

I don’t want to make any hatred comment in here but seriously this peoples is full hatred groups. They always said that their religion is “religion of peace” but in reality muslims is so far away from peace. They always said that western peoples have to pay back for what American did to Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine. it’s sound a threat for me. We have nothing to do with those wars, in fact many Dutch opposed the those War. They blame on us because we are non-muslim? that’s ridicolous!

Now I can’t blame why peoples like Geert Wilders, Debbie Schlussel and others renounces islam and muslims, since they the one who first doing hatred toward others.

Even I’m liberal, I’m pretty shock to know the fact that these Muslims is so powerful and smart to fool any liberal politician to support them. They are so special on those self-hating politician eyes. Even I’m a Liberal I love my country, and I will do anything to save my country from this ungrateful peoples, they should leave my country immediately no matter what! I’m sick with their “Islamophobia” tactic against peoples like Geert Wilder and Debbie Schlussel.That just not work for me.

I’m pretty scary with the fact that debbie mentioned above. It’s look like the world it’s gonna be end. Where will I go to get myself and my family safe from this peoples?

Anna Marie Van Cutsen on January 27, 2011 at 1:38 pm

Thank you for this column. I am seeing too many Muslims being given jobs that ordinary Americans can do in the name of diversity.

When I see white and black men and women who were born in America being tossed out of their jobs by corporate America and replaced with Islamic men and women along with Mexicans then we have a problem.

Many Americans are going hungry and living in poverty because of the influx of these people.

Sterling you treasonous fool. You will be coming back to Debbie on your knees begging for mercy.

Pat on January 27, 2011 at 1:41 pm

Sterling is dead wrong… America’s Jewish population, aging and liberal is in steep decline due to intermarriage, assimilation and except among the Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox, low birth rates and abortion. In a generation, the latter will be the dominant Jews in America. But the doubling of Muslim numbers here is not good news for those who of us who support Israel. Israel had better move now to wean itself off reliance on American economic and military aid and any Israeli bureaucrats who resist such a move should be fired, tossed out or shown the door. Israel cannot wait to attain true independence. As Debbie said, the handwriting already is on the wall.

NormanF on January 27, 2011 at 1:44 pm

Statistically, everything said about Muslims in this article can also be said about Mexicans, particularly the part about the extremely high birth rates. Of course, you’d also have to substitute the phrase “Honor Killings” with “Gang Shootings” and “Wahhabist Imams” with “Drug Cartels.”

Somehow though, this doesn’t bother me quite as much. It might have something to do with the fact that at least the South Park episode where the statue of the Virgin of Guadalupe starts menstruating, is still available for viewing on the internet.

Irving on January 27, 2011 at 1:52 pm

Sterling writes, “It was written to show that there is no way the Muslims are going to gain more than a 5 or 6 percent population which is in no way worrisome.” There are a number of countries in Europe that have not yet reached the 5% level and they’re *already* witnessing troubling consequences.

Heck, in the US they’re “only” at 1% or less (never mind Obama’s false claim of 8 million Muslims), and that’s proving bad enough. Consider the impact on our college campuses, the workplace demands for unreasonable accommodation, the damage done to our security institutions due to “outreach”, the appearance of “no go” zones in some cities, and the impact on our free speech culture. We’re seeing, too, common pathologies found in Islamic cultures – forced marriages, honor killings, female genital mutilation, polygamy, and the like. What’s it going to be like if, Heaven forbid, they reach 5% here?

I agree with Debbie that the European numbers are too conservative, though I doubt they reach 17% in any EU country. They do however exceed that figure in some major cities.

Raymond in DC on January 27, 2011 at 2:09 pm

Hey Sterling, I’m with DS too. She has more credibility than you will ever have and knows FACTS.

Go read “America Alone” by Mark Steyn and “Londanistan”.

Liberal palaver does not work here. We know what the threat is and will NOT let PC crapola keep us from the truth.

Skunky on January 27, 2011 at 3:11 pm

Twenty years ago I had the pleasure of visiting several European Countries for extensive periods of time. I got to enjoy the French countryside and culture without the threat of a Muslim harassing me for the Star of David around my neck. What changed in 20 years? Oh that’s right; there were no Muslims to speak of in France 20 years ago.
The only thing I had to worry about was if the waiter I had at dinner was rude or not, and since I didn’t speak French, I wouldn’t have noticed if he was.

Amsterdam was everything I imagined it to be. Funny Dutch shoes, windmills, and dikes. Wasn’t too keen on the pot back then…so I’m sure I missed out on even more fun had I been so inclined. In all the years I traveled to and from Amsterdam never once did I have to worry about some Muslim trying to blow up his underwear aboard my flight, nor did I have to worry about the placement of my head because I found a Mohammad cartoon funny. What changed in 20 years….Muslims invaded Amsterdam and brought their barbarism with them.

Spain, Italy, England, Greece, Ireland, Scotland, Germany, Russia…..All places where 20 years ago there was only the culture of said country. 20 years later each country has been overrun with Muslims and each country is suffering because of it. Suicide bombings in each country where Muslims are now en masse didn’t exist 20 years while I visited all these places.
It would be one thing if the stories Debbie brings up were only happening here in this country….honor killings, the economic and social destruction happening in every state, but this is going on in EVERY civilized country across the globe. 20 years ago the only Muslim atrocity in the news was about it happening in a Muslim Country. EVERY violent attack and war raging from the Moscow airport to open seas where the pirates are pillaging once again finds ISLAM as the one and only common denominator.

Funny thing about Truth-Liberals try to hide it, and Muslims lie about it.
In the end whether you believe it or choose to stick your head up your Ass and ignore it, the Truth about the locusts and the devastation they are bringing to the civilized world can be seen on the 6 o’clock news on any channel in any country across the planet.

wolf2012 on January 27, 2011 at 4:47 pm

We already see how–as a tiny, vocal minority(1%)–they’ve imposed their intolerance and backward ways on this country.
So according to Sterling(The Israeli Rambo)a 500% increase in their number is “in no way worrisome.”

So the point Debbie was trying to make completely eludes this IDF “expert”.
Whoosh,right over his head.

ebayer on January 27, 2011 at 4:49 pm

Referring to Muslims as cancer is very Goebbels-esque, and Third Reich-ish thing to say. Its always amazing to me how a Jewish woman with relatives who died in the Holocaust can have such a vile, broad accusatory hatred of a whole group of people. De-personalization is often one of the first steps toward ethnic cleansing.

Systemic Failure on January 27, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    Um, Systemic, would you be so kind as to inform all of us exactly what the Jewish equivalent of 9/11 was, prior to World War II?

    Irving on January 27, 2011 at 7:40 pm

Irving- There was none. Just over a thousand years of Anti-Semitism, culminating in the Holocaust.

Systemic Failure on January 27, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Make that a thousand years of Anti-Semitism FOR NO GOOD REASON culminating in the holocaust. I believe that Debbie’s anti-Muslim sentiments are based on QUITE A FEW GOOD REASONS, AND ONGOING ONES AT THAT, wouldn’t you?

    Irving on January 27, 2011 at 9:45 pm

I don’t want more muslims because I don’t want more people who have contempt for the way I want to live my life. I want to wear what I want ie shorts, short sleeve shirts, knee-length skirts or dresses and I don’t want to wear hijab, niqab, burqa, chador, abaya or headscarf. I want to feel the wind on my face and feel the wind blow through my hair. Lastly, I want to get my vitamin D from the sun, not through a pill. Ladies wearing niqab and burqa don’t get enough vitamin D because they are covered.

Lady in Northern Virginia on January 27, 2011 at 10:34 pm

Irving, those are good reasons to fight terrorists. Not individual Muslims and their families. I don’t like Islam at all, but you have to admit it sounds very frightening when you hear rhetoric like this, condemning innocent men, women and children. Like I said, it sounds very much like something Goebbels would print in his newspapers.

Systemic Failure on January 28, 2011 at 12:00 am

    Hey, you want a modern day Goebbels? Click on this:


    You can scan the internet all you want and you will not find an equivalent of this originating from any U.S. or Israeli television station. In totalitarian Islamic theocracies, however, this goes on 24/7. A lot of nonsense about “President” Benjamin Franklin and the “Evil Jew Walt Disney” who created Mickey Mouse, Jerry Mouse, Speedy Gonzalez and every other cartoon rodent that insults Islam by it’s very existence.

    Irving on January 28, 2011 at 4:01 am

“Their cells are not only multiplying faster and faster, but Islam in America has metastasized”.

Once again Debbie provides a most appropriate perspective!
Visualize a tumor that occupies 2.6% of one of your vital organs and it grows to occupy 6.2%. A mortifying thought, to say the least.

Interestingly, a similar rise in the number of Methodists could cause serious health issues as well. The increase in the number of pot-luck suppers would cause such a sharp increase in obesity that there could not help but be an astronomically sharp rise of type-2 diabetes, high blood pressure, and coronary artery disease.

CornCoLeo on January 28, 2011 at 12:30 am

Hey Debbie,

Provide some evidence that the majority of Muslims idolize Bin Laden.

You know that’s a nonsense claim.

jimbo on January 28, 2011 at 12:48 am

From the UK: In 2000 the highest migration figures came from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran, note that this was before the wars. An Iranian arrived with 4 wives/family total 29. First wife and hubby classified as a couple, given a home, 2nd,3rd,4th wives classified as single mothers with children, given three more homes. Brother of the man arrived a month later with 22 in the family, same formula. Everyone on welfare and hubbies NEVER worked. It’s not about unemployment but about being uneducated and not willing to work.The Western welfare is the key, note they’re not running to Islamic countries, great plains of Africa, China or Mongolia.

Two married UK graduates cannot afford a house after paying off uni debts and taxes therefore no children. Find a western politician with more than marshmallows in the undercarriage dept. to stand up and address the subject of ‘over population in Islamic countries’ and we’ve found a leader.

The worm in multi-culturalism is the fact that all cultures are not equal in freedom and democracy. Global migration needs serious consideration well before carbon taxes and climate change because it affects everyone.

Eyes Wide Open on January 28, 2011 at 1:02 am

@Systemic Failure: you are absolutely right. Claims and dehumanizing rhetoric such as this is what prompted the Holocaust, as well as countless other genocides. If we don’t want these things directed at us, we’d do well to refrain from directing it at others.

Also, everyone stop jumping down Sterling’s throat. He’s making valid points, backing it up with facts and on top of that, he’s on your side. And it pains me to see a member of the IDF disrespected like this. My hat is off to you for your service to your country, Sterling.

And regarding the Israeli educational system: Hebrew University is among the highest ranked universities in the world, and some of the smartest people I know are Israeli students. It may not be the greatest on Earth, but I wouldn’t call a decent education there impossible.

tractorplaneguitar on January 28, 2011 at 1:08 am

Systemic Failure, I applaud you. You’ve summed up so much of my frustration at Debbie into a few rational statements.

To “Lady in Northern Virginia” Please relax. No one is going to make you convert. You don’t have to wear a hijab. Even some of the Muslim women I know don’t wear hijabs.

To “Sterling” Dude, thanks for being in the IDF at some point. Unfortunately, your efforts are wasted on the internet; only ignorant people who don’t know what they’re even talking about will lurk here, thinking they are masked by the anonymous veil of the Internet.

To “skzion” Have you ever even been to Israel? As tractorplaneguitar kindly points out……….they have one of the best in the world. So kindly shut your trap, good sir.

Sabra on January 28, 2011 at 1:12 am

    Most likely I won’t have to wear muslim clothing but I don’t want my daughter or granddaughters to be forced to wear such clothing to accommodate muslim sensibilities. Furthermore, I think that the niqab and the burqa should be outlawed in the US. Those 2 items of clothing turn the wearer into space holders. You just can’t tell who is underneath those outfits. Some criminals wear burqas to commit robberies. And if the wearer is a women how do the rest of us relate to such a person? The person wearing a niqab or burqa is intimidating. They know who you are but you don’t know who they are.

    I think all clothing or accessories that cover the entire face or most of the face should be outlawed. When we are out in public we should be able to see one another’s faces. For example, Elizabeth Smart would have been found much sooner if she hadn’t been wearing a face veil. In addition, Michael Jackson’s kids wouldn’t have been paraded around as freaks.

    Lady in Northern Virginia on January 28, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    Sabra, dear, why have you made yeridah? Obviously, you don’t much like your own country. But then you were just born there.

    As for Israeli universities, they are terrible in anything but technical, medical, and physical science areas.

    And yes, I’ve been to Israel. More important, I actually know something about the political processes of that country, unlike you.

    skzion on January 28, 2011 at 6:06 pm

Hi Debbie or rather Heil Goebbel!
It ‘s sicking how much hatred you shower us muzzies. I am wondeering if you either have been raped by a muzzie, or a muzzie lover left you for a much less fat girl or you are just insane. by the way I love my wife and my daughter there are jewish

Muzzie_married_to_a_Jew on January 28, 2011 at 9:23 am


    First, I doubt you are married to a Jew. I expect we’d find that the “Jew” is not Halachally a Jew at all. I expect we’d find a convert to Islam.

    Second, you scream “Goebbel” [sic] as if you think Nazism is a bad thing. In fact, though, you love Nazism, to which your filthy totalitarian cult is closely related.

    Finally, I know perhaps one Muslim whom I consider human. The rest, including you, are just animals. If you want to be treated as a human being, you should convert to a real religion. Otherwise, you should be treated as a subhuman because THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE.

    skzion on January 28, 2011 at 6:00 pm

      Skzion, you wrote: “Finally, I know perhaps one Muslim whom I consider human. The rest, including you, are just animals. If you want to be treated as a human being, you should convert to a real religion. Otherwise, you should be treated as a subhuman because THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE.”

      I try to be polite and respectful as much as possible but frankly, your lack of respect for humanity disgusts me. Are you even Jewish? As Jews, as a people we said never again, and never again includes hateful dehumanization. Forgive me, I can’t comprehend how a Jew could say something like this about another human being, let alone an entire religion. Besides being blatantly wrong, it’s hypocracy to the highest degree, and it just makes me sad.

      Also, to Sean R., we’ve been through this. Of course I condemn terrorism and atrocities such as stonings. I just also take issue with hateful rhetoric like this.

      tractorplaneguitar on January 28, 2011 at 11:57 pm

        TPG sez:

        “I try to be polite and respectful as much as possible but frankly, your lack of respect for humanity disgusts me. Are you even Jewish?”

        Yes. Are you a troll? If not, than you must admit your error regarding Mo’s pedophilia. Then, you must admit your error in dismissing the evidence of the deeply anti-Jewish (and anti-Christian) nature of Islam that has already been provided you. If you are not a troll, you will want to review the following:


        “As Jews, as a people we said never again, and never again includes hateful dehumanization.”

        I’m sorry, but where is “never again” in Torah? Why don’t you admit that you know absolutely nothing about Torah? You are confusing liberal “social” Judaism with the real thing. In the real thing, if someone is trying to kill me, I am to rise earlier and kill him first. In addition, I am responsible for Jews elsewhere, so when Muslims are killing Jews, I also must act. Furthermore, when goyim attack Jews in Eretz Israel particularly, a situation of milchemet mitzvah (defensive holy war) exists, in which case ALL of the relevant goyim must be killed. There is no distinction between “civilian” and “military” either. Further, there is the requirement to destroy Amalek in each generation. If, as I suspect, Muslims are the spiritual Amalekites of today, they must be destroyed no matter what. This is why I believe the spiritual evil of Islam must be extirpated. The first step is to call Islam what it is: Nazism with a prophet.

        “Forgive me, I can’t comprehend how a Jew could say something like this about another human being, let alone an entire religion. Besides being blatantly wrong. . . .”

        Oh. So now I am required to think well of other religions too? Where is THAT in Halacha? As for why I would think negatively about Islam, you cannot understand that, as you know even less about Islam than you do about Judaism, as is obvious because you cannot even get the “Aisha” issue right.

        skzion on January 30, 2011 at 11:30 am

          Oh, and a p.s., TPG. If “never again” means anything, it means “never again shall we allow Jews to be annihilated as Hitler did.” What you cannot–or will not–understand is that Islam requires the annihilation of non-Muslims, with particular enmity reserved for Jews. In fairness, Jews are, technically, allowed to live so long as they pay the jizya (tax) that funds further jihad against “unbelievers.” Also, if they convert to Islam, they are supposed to be embraced. The natural result is that, over time, Jews are lost, either to conversion or to murder. You might have gotten the message if you asked why there are no Jews in Arabia.

          skzion on January 30, 2011 at 1:39 pm

      boker tov skizion ! how old are I guess kindergarter. My in-laws are mostly thanks G-d not are halachally Jew (no gentile mix)and I am a moslem from Morocco from my bible study at a the Bet Yesrael hier at St. Louis (Reforme Judaism synagoge) you are the one who doesn’t follow the halachic metzvot . one of the 613 is to be kind and compasionte. and since you are not that kind you are not a halchic Jew. Shlom licha ve betcha.

      Muzzie_married_to_a_Jew on January 29, 2011 at 7:05 am

        The muzzie_married_to_a_Jew studies Torah at a Reform “Synagogue” in St. Louis?! I guess that’s where he learned a wholly new Halachic definition of a Jew. For of course, according to Halacha, one is a Jew if one’s mother is a Jew, or if one had an authoritative conversion (which Reform “rabbis” cannot perform). That one does not perform all the mitzvot is irrelevant. Indeed, one cannot perform all the mitzvot without the Temple being bebuilt.

        I guess our muzzie got to the US by marrying an American. Of course, it is also against Halacha for a Jew to marry outside the faith.

        Oh, and I am not required to be “kind and compassionate” to someone who is antagonistic to Judaism and Jews. Judaism is not Christianity.

        skzion on January 30, 2011 at 11:04 am

Ugh, the trolls are out.

Funny, how y’all keep citing what the Nazis did in Germany failing to even understand the hatred towards the Jews was all TRUMPED UP hatred with hardly a thing to back it up YET y’all WILLFULLY turn a blind eye to what the Mooooooslims are doing WORLDWIDE.

Just the last two days DS has linked a US honour killing, a dirty jihadist sneaking through Mexico and on Drudge RIGHT NOW they have a link to the Taliban stoning a couple. Sabra, Tractor Freak and the other useful idiot (failure to live in reality) why don’t YOU go watch it. No, like typical useful idiots, you’ll only see the light when YOUR life is tragically touched by a Jihadi. Typical liberal hypocrites.

You don’t have to STFU, but we are NEVER going over to your stupid way of thinking. We were convinced by the truth. We just point and laugh at fools like you.

Skunky on January 28, 2011 at 9:26 am

If you notice, the Liberal DUMB trolls here in high-dudgeon because FACTS are being pointed out against Moooooooslims have no posts on threads that ACTUALLY depict jihadi and bad Mooooslim behaviour…they just wring their hands and tell DS (on her on blog, mind you) to STOP being so mean and so racist.

It’s crickets when a dirty Jihadi is honour killing his daughter, when there is proof of Jihadis sneaking in through Mexico and when concrete facts depict atrocious Moooooslim behaviour.

You’ll find these useful idiots hand-wringing when statistics point to the exploding birthrate of Muslims and when DS says she didn’t listen to ObaMarxist during his STFU speech.

Oh yeah, they are such warriors! NEVERMIND those Taliban freaks stoning that couple in Afghanistan. NEVERMIND the good religious Mooooslims in Afghanistan who pray 5 times a day and then bugger a Bacha-bazi boy at night. NEVERMIND Miss USA and her lying about being Christian and her family ties to Hamas.

Skunky on January 28, 2011 at 9:50 am

Well said Skunky, to Sabra, Tractorwhatever, Sterling, System Failurewhatever, etc., do us all a favor, get your head out of the sand and see reality for once. There is a good legitimate reason why those of us on this site are down your throats, because you morons are living in your own isolated world and not seeing what the muslim fanatics are doing worldwide. Is Sabra, Sterling, System Etc., Tractoretcetc, are going to condemn this man who killed his daughter because she was too westernized for him and the family? Are you left wing jackasses going to condemn the stoning of a married couple in Afghanistan conducted by muslim zealots? Or are you morons going to come over here and tell me, Skunky, Debbie, etc, that were being hateful, mean, etc.? The four of you are like the “three monkeys”, you remember that cartoon in the old days, they sang this song called, “see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil”, that’s how you four morons are, your like the three monkeys, only condemning the whole facts and truth. And you guys are enabling the meltdown of this republic!

“A nation is identified by it’s borders, langauge & culture!”

Sean R. on January 28, 2011 at 11:26 am

No surprise here in the belly of the beast, pretty much. LATELY, as in the last 5 years especially, the burbs have seen a big rise in the burka wearing cultists. Funny how they almost always have a lot of MAKE UP on as well as a bunch of young kids with them. Still libs don’t even try to connect the dots. An uber lib like Combs would certainly throw around the race card etc. They totally ignore the european situation.

samurai on January 28, 2011 at 1:08 pm

TPG, Sterling, etc., have been shown to be wrong on


They offer only banalities and untruths, and so far they willfully refuse to consider the abundant evidence that some of us have already provided.

The following site will get you started:


Most of the books are available on Amazon. Then you should read some of the work of Bat Ye’or. Then you should review some hefty tomes from Bostom (The Legacy of Jihad, and The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism).

skzion on January 28, 2011 at 6:31 pm

I won’t say that a lot of Muslim people in the Middle East haven’t done terrible things. A lot of issues in the Middle East are being led by Muslim radicals, true. But not everyone is the same.
But honestly, is that ALL you’ll look at? I think you’ll find that there are more innocents than there are terrorists.

There are so many other terrible things going on in the world, and attacks led by Muslim radicals are all you can think about?

You get YOUR head out of the sand. Don’t be so narrow-minded. If Muslims ever actually pose a threat; maybe I’ll say yeah, you’re right. But Muslims in general aren’t bad, just the radicals. Maybe it’s because I only really know Americanized Muslims; who knows. But you’re all being ridiculous by clumping them all together and judging their actions by the ones who make the most noise on the news.

@Lady in Northern Virgina: You’re actually being really very silly. The USA has “freedom of religion” written into it’s Amendments. Muslim women have the right to wear a burqa, and you and anyone else around you have the right to not wear a burqa if you so wish. If you hate them all that much, just don’t go outside.

Sabra on January 29, 2011 at 12:16 am

STFU Sabra. You have long become tiresome and keep saying the same nonsense over and over again like a dumb child.

We know where you stand and do NOT agree with your naive take on things. Go build an empire somewhere where EVERYONE agrees with you.

We ain’t buying the Shiite you’re selling. LOL.

Skunky on January 29, 2011 at 9:36 am

    Take a look in the mirror, Skunky. Not everyone agrees with you either. Actually, general and common human decency doesn’t agree with you.

    And, your pun isn’t funny. Sorry.

    tractorplaneguitar on January 29, 2011 at 9:29 pm

      TPG, a “troll” is someone who comes to an online forum to stir up heated exchanges and who never engages the actual arguments being made. So far, you have not engaged the arguments and evidence provided.

      For example, you were terribly offended and roundly denounced and rejected the claim that Mo was a pedophile. Of course, you were dead wrong on the facts, as you would know if you were conversant with the “strong hadiths” and authoritative (for Muslims) biographies of Mo, who mention Aisha and her age. For example:

      “Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. . . . Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. . . . She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.” Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234

      “Narrated ‘Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah’s Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for ‘Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.)” (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151.

      I am waiting for you to admit your mistake. When will you?

      skzion on January 30, 2011 at 10:44 am

        (Sorry, both of the hadiths are from Bukhari.)

        skzion on January 30, 2011 at 10:46 am

TPG, I am doing quite well as long as I am on the opposite side of you, lol.

Oh, and it was NOT meant to be funny…I didn’t want to right the REAL swear out.

Funny, you had NO comments on the thread with the Talaban stoning the couple or the honour killing Dad. Typical.

Skunky on January 29, 2011 at 10:02 pm

skzion is a dumb ass and debbie has problems. All of you debbie supporters including debbie can kiss my beautiful ass 🙂

DEEEEEEE on January 31, 2011 at 9:51 am

debbie wanna come out to play? you dumb ignorant blonde. You probably are so bored with your life and so lonely because no man will every marry you let alone sleep with you, you lonely disgusting piece of garbage. I wonder where you get your facts from? You are by far the biggest Muslim hater i have ever came across. Your probably a freemason you psychopath

DEEEEEEE on January 31, 2011 at 9:53 am

    Imagine a world without Islam! We wouldn’t have ‘tards like DEEEEEEE.

    skzion on January 31, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    Ad hominem, DEEEEEEE. I don’t agree with Debbie’s writings either, but at least try to be civil. Take the high road.

    tractorplaneguitar on January 31, 2011 at 6:05 pm

Skzion, please calm down. I’m here to calmly discuss and debate, not with the sole ulterior motive of pissing you off.

That said, I’m willing to admit a mistake. I never claimed to be an expert on Islamic teaching, and so I thank you for filling me in. Being the expert you are, you probably already know that marriage customs and traditions were very different in Mohammed’s time than they are now, but that would not excuse pedophilia. You wanted an admission? Here it is.

Also, Skunky, I’m flattered you want my opinion, but I don’t have time to comment on every single article. Provide a link, and I can leave you a comment.

But my interpretation of “never again” is different than yours. No, it isn’t specifically in the Torah, but I would think that as a people who knows what it is to suffer, we should not allow it to happen to others. Genocide, dehumanization – these our things that happened to us, that

tractorplaneguitar on January 31, 2011 at 5:09 pm

Sorry, got cut off. Continued: These things that happened to us, that we should not allow to happen in the world again.

tractorplaneguitar on January 31, 2011 at 5:10 pm

Dear Sterling:

time for some simple math, my dear asshat. There are 300 million Americans. There are (roughly) 6 million Jews. That’s 2 percent of the population, not 6.2 percent.

Literacy (both verbal and numerical) is SO important.

Occam's Tool on April 12, 2011 at 1:44 pm

Dear Sterling:

were you the assistant to the PM who handed him binoculars with the caps on?

If the IDF consists of people like you, no wonder we couldn’t easily beat Hezbollah.

Occam's Tool on April 12, 2011 at 1:46 pm

This web site is poison. It makes no sense. Ur attacking a Faith which by the US constitution and around the world is a moral human right. Understand when you attack any faith it further leads the way to attack other faiths. Even if ur faith is (atheism or polytheist) Remember your history from your ancestors. When the protestants and The Orthodox Jews in Europe were under persecution it was in Islamic populated States where majority were practicing Muslims did the protestants and orthodox jews found shelter, peace and justice. Remember that in this universe everything is infinitely possible. Thus it is possible that we are deceived by this web site and the operators to basically repeat what has already been done to the many different faiths in the world. Af far as this article is it is absolutely junk and fallacious. Faith or religion is an individual’s choice and thus the figure in this article makes no sense because one can choose to be a Muslim one day and the next day an atheist or so forth. It’s the same for how we may feel about abortion or any other constitutional liberty. We must not allow the evil that has always existed since the creation of Mankind to bamboozle us again. We are human beings and not animals. So lets us be more skeptical and critical thinkers. And work on our selves and family and love ones. Ultimately that is what every human wants so that they may essentially lead peace of mind. Happiness nor money or power will give us that. Remember our only enemy is Satan and his demons and there oligarchs. Enjoy peace of mind people by letting go hate and fear and having faith in the one and only loving passionate creator of us all 🙂

NoJusticeNoPeace on May 11, 2011 at 6:07 pm

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