June 20, 2008, - 8:37 pm

BrownShirt Sean Vannity Congratulates a Fellow Comrade, Praises Anti-WWII Book

By Debbie Schlussel
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A few months ago, I told you about Sean the Plagiarist Hannity’s tight friendship with Neo-Nazi Hal Turner. The friendship was so tight that they spoke together from home, Turner had Vannity’s cell number, and he visited Sean at the FOX News “Hannity and Colmes” set with his son. Now, Sean Vannity is simultaneously denying ever knowing Turner and claiming he wasn’t his close friend. Both are lies.
But, last night, on “Vannity & Colmes,” Hannity welcomed yet another fellow brownshirt–anti-Semite Pat Buchanan, and congratulated Buchanan on the success of his new book, “Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War,” which essentially argues that we should have let more Jews cook and be transformed into lampshades, that we made a mistake fighting the Nazis in World War II. I guess he forgot that we won.

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“Great Americans”: Let Freedom Ring for Nazis

As reader Joel writes:

I tuned in and the opening segment was Sean Hannity fawning over the jowly neo-fascist anti-Semite Pat Buchanan. I immediately turned it off. He made congratulatory reference to Buchanan’s revisionist book being on the Times bestseller list. When Hannity refers to Buchanan as “my friend” – I want to retch.

That Vannity would let Buchanan on his show with such a warm welcome is bad enough. But to congratulate Buchanan on his book’s success–a book that urinates on all the heroic American soldiers who gave their lives in what was ultimately a valiant triumph over Nazi evil–is sickening.
It’s doubly sickening when you consider that Pat Buchanan got out of serving in Vietnam because of an allegedly bad knee . . . so bad that after that, he regularly ran on the treadmill at very high speeds. He’s really not one to comment on WWII or anything related to war, since he’s basically a draft dodger.
I like some of Pat Buchanan’s views on domestic policy, but they are stained with the anti-Israel, anti-Semitic dye in which he has chosen to cast the world. Sorta like a delicious lollipop unfortunately forever coated in dung.
Sorry, Pat, but there’s a reason you failed three times to become President. And it’s not just that the only people who’d vote for you were old Jews in West Palm Beach who couldn’t figure out a butterfly ballot. Winston Churchill will always be one of history’s great Western statesmen for fighting the Nazis. And you will be forgotten.
In full disclosure, when Pat Buchanan had an MSNBC cable show, “Buchanan and Press,” I was booked frequently until the show was ultimately canceled. His liberal co-host, Bill Press, is a gem of a man, even though we disagree on most things.
When I was first scheduled to go on “B&P,” I told my father that I was going to make a comment about Buchanan’s anti-Semitism. We were scheduled to discuss Martha Burk’s obnoxious insistence that Augusta National, a private club, admit female members. I was going to say that I believe private clubs should admit whomever they choose and that I have no prob, for example, when golf clubs admit anti-Semites like Pat Buchanan. But my dad told me not to, that it wouldn’t be classy, and I obliged.
Sadly, that didn’t stop Pat Buchanan from showing his Jew-hatred right off the bat. He introduced me as “Debbie Schlussel, a conservative . . . I mean, NEO-CON . . . NEO-Conservative.” In case you don’t know, that’s code for “She’s a JOOOOOOOOO.” I was pissed. But I could hear my Dad’s admonishments in the back of my mind and didn’t respond to that, to my continued regret.
I’d had my previous experiences with Pat Buchanan. In college, when I interned for Fred Barnes and Mort Kondracke, then both on “The McLaughlin Group,” Buchanan was also on (as he still is). He would constantly attack Israel whenever I was in the Green Room, trying to start up with me. When my late father and my then-little brother (he was nine years old at the time) came to the set on a tourist visit to Washington, Pat Buchanan asked them how their “money is doing in the Bank . . . the WEST Bank.” Haha, funny. Did you see that?–Pat Buchanan simultaneously did a double entendre and an anti-Semitic reference about Jews’ alleged obsession with money. Whatta talent. A regular fascist Don Rickles (just kidding, Don).
It was an interesting juxtaposition: My dad and brother making an innocent introduction to Buchanan and getting chided about Jews, Israel, and money, especially since Buchanan–in one of his many rants against American Jews and Israel–made the argument that “guys named Leroy Brown” fought and died in Vietnam and not Jews. Here was my Dad who, when he was drafted during the Vietnam War, not only served in the Army, but was very proud of it. And Pat Buchanan–well, you know, it’s that bad knee. Guys named Leroy Brown, but not Pat Buchanan.
This is Sean Hannity’s good friend. This is the man who thinks America should have let another 6 million Jews disintegrate up through the smokestacks and another 5 million gentiles, too–which is basically the heavily implied if unsaid thesis of Buchanan’s book. Even Neville Chamberlain wasn’t this outrageous. He tried to appease the Nazis. Buchanan writes a revisionist “The Way We Were” tome against our defeat of them.
And all of this got gushing global TV exposure on FOX News, last night, thanks to fellow Brownshirt Sean Hannity. Even Eva Braun is laughing in hell. Or drooling. And Hitler is now wishing the half-German Buchanan was born much earlier.
Vannity, You’re a “Great American.” [High on the sarcasm meter, folks.] Heil Hitler. And Herr Buchanan, too.
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I’m no fan of anti-Israel scumbag Christopher Hitchens, but like the broken clock that he is, one of his two times right per day is this Newsweek article he wrote against Buchanan’s new book.
**** UPDATE, 06/22/08: Reader Joel has some great criticisms of the Buchanan book and demonstrates Buchanan’s absolute ignorance and naivete about history. And this is just based on a glance of the book, not a complete reading:

The man is totally ignorant of History. The Holocaust began on Kristallnacht (you can make a case that it began on April 1, 1933 with the German boycott of Jewish stores). By the time of the Wannsee conference in Jan. 1942, there were already around a million dead Jews thanks to the Einsatzgruppen and the ghettoization in Poland. Buchanan wrote that had Britain not gone to war that only the Jews of Poland and the USSR would have been killed and that the rest of the Jews of Western Europe would have been spared. That is an absurd statement.
He also claims that the Holocaust could be dated to Jan. 20, 1942 (the Wansee conference) neglecting the fact that the extermination of the Jews began with the invasion of Poland in September 1939 with the mobile killing squads and that by the time of the Wansee conference Jews had already been gassed by mobile killing vans at Chelmno in December 1941 and that the Einsatzgruppen had murdered hundreds of thousands of Jews in the USSR.
He sees the Holocaust as being a result of the declaration of war by Britain and France not as a Nazi goal in and of itself. The commitment the Nazis had to exterminate the Jews of Europe, no matter what the military cost, would be evident in the Spring of 1944 during the deportation of the Jews of Hungary to Auschitz-Birkenau – the Germans used rolling stock and transportation systems that were desperately needed to supply their armies on the Eastern Front – but genocide came first.
Buchanan is not a historian – he is dangerous because he has a little bit of knowledge and is talented (but wicked) polemicist. I suppose that he concedes that the Holocaust took place is a sign of some advancement for him because he once wrote of “Holocaust fantasies of group martyrdom” and that “the diesel fuel at Treblinka could not have killed anyone.” (His fellow paleocon [DS: and Jew-hater], Joseph Sobran has spoken at the revisionist Institute for Historical Review as well as former Congressman Pete McCloskey.)
Buchanan views–in his book and in his writings–Adolf Hitler essentially the same way that Obamaites such as Brzezinski, Scowcroft, James Baker, Condi Rice, Samantha Power, McPeak view Hamas and Hezbollah – as a hard headed realist. In his book he makes great play of the fact that Hitler did not demand the return of the territories Germany lost to the West in 1918 to France and Denmark.
In Buchanan’s world, Hitler is a rational Anglophile whom Churchill foolishly scorned.

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Just shows how serious a problem anti-Semitism has become that trash like Buchanan’s book is taken seriously by elements of the media. To his credit, Mike Savage also made an announcement that although he had Buchanan on his show in the past he would no longer do so because of his book. I believe (not quite positive) that Laura Ingraham also had Buchanan on her show subsequent to the book publication.
I was about to say that we’re back to the late 30s, but in some ways things are worse today. The similarity to the late 30s is the resurgence of anti-Semitism into “respectability”, and the relative silence of Jewish ‘leaders’. What is worse today is that not only are they silent, but they criticize those non-Jews who are friends of Israel & opponents of anti-Semitism when they aren’t liberal.

c f on June 21, 2008 at 6:53 am

Just curious — how did Colmes react to all of this?

c f on June 21, 2008 at 8:19 am

Hal Turner Sean Hannity: Soul mates of Hate…Birds of a feather flock together.
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kieko on June 21, 2008 at 9:23 am

Debbie–
It is one thing to speculate on mistakes made by Wilson, and the aftermath of the Versailles treaty, but clearly, Buchanan has gone way over the top this time.
Sadly, he–along with such as Michael Hoffman–have fallen into a deathly revisionist history spiral where it is too easy and convenient to cast blame on the Jews.
Contrary to revealed wisdom, Churchill was nowhere near as great as he is often portrayed, and FDR and Truman were pretty much disasters.
Buchanan, though, is falling into the trap of conflating what we did post-war–much of which was terrible, and based on extreme failings of our government at the time–with the war itself.
It is quite easy to sit here and say that if we had stayed out, Hitler and Stalin would have destroyed each other: the perfect outcome.
Most likely, Stalin would have won (he had way more guys). And all this assumes that FDR would not have gotten us into the war with Japan.
Impossible to know…

Red Ryder on June 21, 2008 at 9:38 am

Putsching Pat was indeed on Laura Ingraham’s show, albeit with Laura herself on vacation. Her guest host, Monica Crowley (if memory serves), tried to take PB to task. You could hear the incredulity in her voice that anyone would write such a thing. PB responded by getting louder and more blustery.
Churchill wasn’t perfect, but the plain fact is from June 1940-June 1941 he kept the British Empire standing ALONE against the Reich. DS is right; Churchill will be revered when PB and Hannity too, for that matter, are forgotten. It’s a shame about Hannity, though — I listened to him when we were both in Atlanta, and he used to be pretty good.

DocLiberty on June 21, 2008 at 12:22 pm

Debbie, I watch H&C and O’Reilly every now and again, but I’m not proud of it. Speaking of Buchanan, I’m reminded that the people I’ve met who I’ve consisdered virally anti-Semitic have invariably been Catholic. The Protestants tend to be anti-Israel in a mistaken left wing kind of knee jerk way, but I think the Catholic Church has been a real incubator for anti-Semitic bullies. Hopefully, some of them were also bent over in the process.

Anonymous1 on June 21, 2008 at 1:04 pm

Hardly on the same level as Obama’s connections with Wright,Farrakhan,Ayers & Dorhn,George Soros and many equally vile leftists that have far worse power and influence.
“Buchanan’s book is taken seriously by elements of the media”?
Again, nowhere near the number of elements as those who slobber over Barack’s books.

OldSchoolW on June 21, 2008 at 1:05 pm

Again, it is the scapegoat thing. Nevermind the verbiage. A John Bircher once wrote a tract with a hundred pages of source notes, in which he claimed that President Eisenhauer was a Communist. Truth shouldn’t be a means to the end of falsity. Buchanan can drop dead. I seem to remember the draft deferment controversy that arose when he was writing speeches for Dick Nixon. The Viet Cong would have loved to wrap him in their flag. What a patriot!

supercargo on June 21, 2008 at 3:02 pm

While Pat has made many laudable statements defending Catholic Faith and morals, certainly whenever he makes anti-Semite statements or slurs, well, he speaks for himself.
Certainly, he doesnít speak as a Catholic.
As Christ Jesus calls Christians ìto be perfect, as the Father is perfectî, one can be assured that as Christians we are called to a much higher morality and observance than that of the Old Testamony would allow, not a lessor.
Bigotry could never be found along that ìhigher roadîÖand the Church has called us to a new future, free of anti-Judaism. The resolve for that new future coming from a reflection on our past sins, in this regard.
Summing up, the Holy See has condemned anti-Semitism. No further debate is allowed, or considered.
Except for those who are outside of the Kingdom of God.

The Canadien on June 21, 2008 at 3:29 pm

I turned off Hannity’s radio show years ago because he’s such a self-absorbed, self-centered, lying, exaggerating, megalomaniacal scumbag. It’s all about HIM. EVERYTHING is. A caller calls up to say something…anything, and Hannity cuts them off to talk about himself. No matter what the callers calls about, he cuts them off and draws references to himself, or go on tangents about what a wonderful guy he is.
I haven’t watched H&C for years, as well, because Hannity is just so repuslive to listen to.
He lives in a world where celebrities shove their tongues so far up each other’s ass. They all fawn over themselves to hawk each others’ books, CD’s, shows, columns.
It’s all very disingenuous and phony, and he’s the biggest asswipe among them.

Thee_Bruno on June 21, 2008 at 4:07 pm

My eyes were open to Buchanan only recently. I haven’t bought another book of his since. After reading a column of his about WWII I was surprised but my eyes were opened to his b.s.
Another thing he seems to be all over is getting European Americans to reproduce more (State of Emergency) but I don’t see anything anywhere about him having a family.

samurai on June 21, 2008 at 5:12 pm

It’s dissappointing to learn how bad it gets with Buchanan. What a scum. What a window to the real person were those encounters you had– and your dad with this ape.
Vannity–you’ve told us about him and we see it more and more. I guess he and PB go together. I wonder if Mark Levin, who rips idiots right and left, will still fawn over him? He can smell an anti-Semite a mile away–and so far he still plugs Vannity on a daily basis on his program. I also wonder how Rush will treat PB?

BB on June 21, 2008 at 5:43 pm

I caught the tail end of that interview the other night. I thought I’d heard wrong about the premise of the book. I guess not. I should have known better considering the source.
Buchanan’s fantasy of neo-isolationism is just as stupid as a liberals knee-jerk fear of ever using American power.

KevinQC on June 21, 2008 at 6:03 pm

I think WWII was stupid. If it could’ve been avoided, we wouldn’t have lost MILLIONS of the best the White race had to offer. We should have listened to George Washington and stayed out of unecessary entaglements. We’re continuing the stupidy today, by remaining in NATO, and drowning in debt to pay for Europe’s defense.
[JH: WHAT?! YOU'RE AS RACIST AS BUCHANAN. PLENTY OF BLACK MEN FOUGHT IN WORLD WAR II. ONE MORE RACIST COMMENT LIKE THIS AND I WILL BAN YOU. I THINK I'VE ALREADY BANNED YOU A FEW TIMES UNDER DIFFERENT NAMES, BUT YOU KEEP RETURNING. DS]

John Harper on June 21, 2008 at 9:24 pm

Pat Buchanan is an isolationist. He seems to think America’s troubles lie in meddlesome Jews getting her involved in the Middle East and in her being a world power. The Jews didn’t get America involved in World War II and they didn’t target America on 9/11. Those are the facts that escape Buchanan’s attention. And his anti-Semitism blinds him to the fact that World War II was launched because the Nazis intended to exterminate the Jews when they were ready. Their building an empire in Europe was just a by-product of that aim, not the other way around – it was in other words, intended to facilitate the Final Solution. All of which can be found in the pages of Mein Kamf. And its thanks to Buchanan’s isolationist forebears that the West almost ended up losing its existence. Today’s war with Islamofascism is another world-historical struggle he would have us sit out. The Greatest Generation during the greatest conflict of the twentieth century gave their lives to make America and the world a more free and safer place and all Buchanan can do is say they waged an “unnecessary war.” Well all wars are that way until you need to fight them. We had to do that then and we have to do it today.

NormanF on June 22, 2008 at 12:03 am

Your father was correct. The “… when golf clubs admit anti-Semites like Pat Buchanan.” would not have been classy. And while I probably would have said it (had I been as thoughtful and courageous as you to even consider it), based on what you wrote here about your father I think he was someone worth listening to.

I_am_me on June 22, 2008 at 12:06 am

It so happens today is June 22 – the date the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union. This was a country they had a non-aggression pact with and they just tore it up because they felt they couldn’t be stopped. Just a historical reminder that true peace is guaranteed only through strength of arms and not with a piece of paper alone.

NormanF on June 22, 2008 at 12:36 am

Debbie, JH is as racist as Buchanan. I think its best to keep his vile comments on the board so people can see the kind of constituency that Buchanan himself represents. The best defense to the scurrilous rewriting of history by those on the racist fringe is the truth. And they are the fringe since they are an embarrassment to every serious conservative. No thoughtful person in the world for a moment should entertain that line of argument. Period.
[NF: YOUR COMMENTS AND COUNSEL ARE ALWAYS WISE, BUT I DO NOT AGREE WITH HIS RACIST COMMENTS ON OTHER POSTS (IN ADDITION TO THIS ONE), IN WHICH HE DOES NOT IDENTIFY HIMSELF AS A BUCHANANITE. AND EITHER WAY, CAIR, THE OTHER MUSLIM GROUPS, AND LIBS LIKE NAZI-FUNDED MEDIA MATTERS USE SUCH COMMENTS TO IMPUTE THIS UNTENABLE VIEWS TO ME AND MY SITE. THEY TROLL THIS SITE FOR THAT VERY PURPOSE. DS]

NormanF on June 22, 2008 at 12:44 am

Ban me? Different names? You’re paranoid. And, WWII was almost exclusively fought by Whites against other Whites, except for the Japanese, Ken Burns’ revisionist PBS series notwithstanding. Sorry, that’s the truth.
All you’ve got for proof that Buchanan is Adolph Hitler, is some off-color remark, and the fact he’s spent 1% as much time talking about “Whites” as you’ve spent talking about Jews. Pretty thin, coming from somebody who refers to Oprah as “Hoprah”, lol.
And you people at this site can’t handle anything you perceive to be “anti-semetic”, which I wasn’t even talking about, but apparently it’s forbidden to agree with Buchanan. Excuse me for caring about our (my?) people, the way Buchanan frames it, and seeing WWII as a disaster for my people. Are you folks Israeli or American? Are you confused about that? Why do you constantly make everything jewish vs. gentile? We’re on the same team, right?

John Harper on June 22, 2008 at 1:19 am

I voted for Buchanan in 92. So what? You people are hysterical.

John Harper on June 22, 2008 at 1:30 am

When I was a kid, I read a book called “Rock 1970″ and it had a photo of Mick Jagger wearing a dress and singing to an audience. The caption was, “Getting harder and harder to shock ‘em, ain’t it Mick?” Such is Pat Buchanan. As intelligent as Buchanan is, as well researched as his book might be, who’s going to read it, unless he can create controversy? And since it’s become obvious to PB that he’ll never hold office or influence policy, he’s chosen to become the naughty boy saying bad words. The truth is that Pat’s constituency is, generally speaking, aging and dying.
Just like aging rock stars, Pat’s crowds get thinner and thinner. Gotta put that dress on to get some attention. And don’t get me started about Sean “It’s Unbelievable” Hannity. Suffice it to say, at least when he plagarizes you, he’s quoting accurate information. Otherwise, whether he’s telling the truth of not is a toss up.

gmartinz on June 22, 2008 at 1:33 am

90% of the US soldiers were White. That doesn’t include the English, Canadians, Germans, Russians, French, Dutch, etc. I’d say it was largely about Whites killing each other, and it obviously claimed the bravest and best we had. If “NormanF” can’t see that fact as being anything but vile, fringe, scurrilous, racist, unthoughtful, and an embarrasment (wow), then perhaps “NormanF” is the issue.
And to which “serious conservatives” does he refer, to whom I am supposedly an “embarrassment”? The mainstream Republican party? Oh no, lol.
[JH: THAT MEANS THAT 10% OF U.S. SOLDIERS FIGHTING THERE WERE NOT WHITE. AT THE TIME, BLACKS WERE FAR LESS THAN 10% OF THE U.S. POPULATION. TO PUT ANY RACIAL SPIN ABOUT WHICH SOLDIERS FOUGHT IS JUST RIDICULOUS. AND IT'S NOT THE POINT OF THIS POST. ENOUGH ALREADY OF THE ARYAN BS. DS]

John Harper on June 22, 2008 at 2:30 am

To those who “minimize”, by their actions – inferences – indifference, what occured in Germany (under Hitler) concerning the (attempted) extinction of the Jewish People…is APPALLING.
Lets get this straight right now…MILLIONS of (innocent) Jewish people were killed/murdered SOLELY because of their Religion. It was WRONG and there were MILLIONS of People around the World (including JFK’s own Father) who believed that Hitler would/could never be defeated so we should “learn to appease” him/his views.
In the 30’s people got together and SACRIFICED their lives, and those of their children, to fight against this evil…and they/we PREVAILED (thank God).
Right now, sadly as I type these words, there is MASS MURDER taking place in Africa. This MASS MURDER is not a “race” thing…it is a “power thing” and it is wrong!
The “world”, including the spineless UN, sits around and allows it to happen to INNOCENT men, women, and children (however in much lower numbers as compared to WW2).
Where are all of the BRAVE LIBERALS/WOMENS RIGHTS ADVOCATES addressing/solving this “life and death matter”? Nowhere just like (sadly) the majority of the Republicans regardless of the “reasons”…it is wrong to allow the innocent to suffer…and die.
Man, we need to focus our attention on what is REALLY happening around the world AND what REALLY happened (like in Germany to the Jewish People) before. If we don’t then there is little hope, I am affraid, for the “next generation” to do anything because they will be “too busy” texting OR reading ALTERED HISTORY in Liberal/Extreme/Biased materials.
To those (and there are MANY) in this day and age (CAUTION – sarcasm alert) of “we are so brave that we can blame everything on Christians, Jewish people, Southerners, White people, etc.” my advice is to (a) self-educate yourself so that you realize/know that ALL types of people have suffered throughout the ages (b) respect and appreciate the fact that the Jewish People are constantly under “attack” and it is WRONG (c) get off of your “high horse” and take responsibility for your own actions/life and (d) read – accept – appreciate – the life that you have been given because it is a “short ride indeed”. Nuff said. NOSTRADAMUSLIVES (by Jeff Schrembs – I’m outta here – 4now)!

Nostradamus on June 22, 2008 at 3:08 am

Not surprising that left wingers like Audacious and NP would, in effect make common cause with someone like JH in attacking you & this blog. Similar to the isolationist and anti-Semitic America First group prior to World War II. It was not just right-wing isolationists. For two years, 1939-1941 the Commies also opposed intervention until Hitler attacked Russia, Norman Thomas & other Socialists also supported America First. The same dynamic now. They attacked Jews then, the same way — that only the Jews wanted to fight Hitler.

c f on June 22, 2008 at 6:50 am

Debbie, thanks and for the record I don’t agree with them either. Anyway, the point I want to make is you can’t do anything about how other people think about you so all you can do is just state your position and then the reaction that follows divides into two camps: those who agree with you and those who don’t. In our free society, hopefully with time, that will lead to more of the former than the latter having the upper hand. Til then, the fight continues against the likes of CAIR, other Islamists and the Left. I’m proud to see you’re a part of it!

NormanF on June 22, 2008 at 7:03 am

Cf, good point. Then as now, moonbats on the Left and paleocons on the Right find common company in refusing to see the need to fight evil. They denied the Nazi threat and today they deny the Islamofascist and Iranian threat. One would think people who can recognize a past evil can acknowledge the necessity of confronting the present danger. But they can’t and the reason Buchanan’s book is more than a dated history lesson is many of the things he advocates that would have strengthened Hitler in the 30s would strengthen Islamofascists today. The question is not whether America is going to sit on the sidelines. The question is whether America will have the will to defeat evil as the past generation did. Which is what I think is very much the point of the present thread here.

NormanF on June 22, 2008 at 7:12 am

JH is probably Pat Buchanan’s lover – Scott McConnell. By the way JH you magnificently ignorant swinish bastard – it is ‘Adolf’ Hitler not ‘Adolph’ Hitler. A former Hitelerjugend like your self ought to know that.

Ripper on June 22, 2008 at 7:34 am

Nothing new about Pat Buchanan.
William Buckley, years ago, said that Pat Buchanan was an anti-Semite and wrote a very long article in his National Review magazine supporting his charges.
Pat Buchanan said that Desert Storm was a war started by G.H.W. Bush at the behest of Israel.
Pat Buchanan engaged in Holocaust revisionism as to his defense of John Demjanjuk, the notorious SS guard at the Treblinka death camp during WWII, saying that its gas chambers could not have inflicted so many deaths.
Pat Buchanan & Sean Hannity: Perfect for each other.

Thee_Bruno on June 22, 2008 at 9:08 am

Well, 70 million people died in WWII. What a catastrophe. How arrogant of some of you, and FDR, and Churchill, to volunteer Americans for that duty. It wasn’t my grandfather’s job to go to Europe and get dragged into a global conflagration, but he did it anyway. It’s sheer luck that I’m even here today. If 70 million dead and $1 Trillion (in 1944 dollars!) isn’t too high a cost for you people, what is? A billion dead and $1 Quadrillion? Probably not.
And you little people calling everybody names, like vile, scurrilous, ignorant swinish bastard, Pat Buchanan’s lover, etc, or accusing ME of attacking anyone after I’m called a bunch of names…you are irrational and ridiculous.

John Harper on June 22, 2008 at 9:09 am

Posted by John Harper:
[What a catastrophe. How arrogant of some of you, and FDR, and Churchill, to volunteer Americans for that duty.]
Hitler declared war on the US after it was bombed by the Japanese! After this, there was no need for the US government to force Americans to fight the Nazis. Americans volunteered on their own.

Norman Blitzer on June 22, 2008 at 10:00 am

Posted by John Harper:
[What a catastrophe. How arrogant of some of you, and FDR, and Churchill, to volunteer Americans for that duty.]
Hitler declared war on the US after it was bombed by the Japanese! After this, there was no need for the US government to force Americans to fight the Nazis. Americans volunteered on their own.

Norman Blitzer on June 22, 2008 at 10:01 am

As Zeppelin would say—hats off to John Harper:)
HE is indicative of the hardcore reality of neo-conservatism, and also the History Channel afficitionados. Whenever you listen to those announcers you hear a hint of hero worship when they talk about Hitler and you get the feeling that the Nazis weren’t all that bad…just overachievers…kind of like former moshiach GW!!!
And WHY would you ban him???
i’d rather my klansmen out in the open than plotting behind closed doors @ Halliburton.
[ER: UH, WRONG. HE IS NOT A NEO-CONSERVATIVE. HE HATES THEM. HE IS A PAT BUCHANAN PALEO-CONSERVATIVE. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. DS]

EminemsRevenge on June 22, 2008 at 10:57 am

“Not surprising that left wingers like Audacious and NP would, in effect make common cause with someone like JH in attacking you & this blog.”
Ah CF, up to your old tricks.
How fast can you say Straw Man?

No Pasaran! on June 22, 2008 at 1:32 pm

I didn’t know what a Jewish person was until I was 20. Then I still didn’t notice any great differences. I’m not religious at all, I don’t believe there’s an Invisible Man in the Sky, who watches over us, and uses hocus pocus, lol. But, I admired the Jews and realized I should be more like them, and work harder.
Lately though, I’ve observed Jewish people are extremely clannish with each other, which I don’t have a problem with, and they don’t mind other groups being extrememly tight-knit, like blacks for example. But they can’t seem to tolerate the same level of cohesion among non-Jewish Whites. They seem to reserve for us “Gentiles”, or whatever we are, non-Jewish Whites I guess, the same level of suspicion they have for muslims, who rightly deserve it. I don’t know how Jews expect non-Jewish Whites to continue supporting them when our “special group” is as threatening to them as the muslims. I don’t trust people who don’t trust me. I’m supposed to care about Jews, but they attack, viciously, any semblance of non-Jewish White unity? Screw that! I mean, hell, if I’m just the stupid goyem, why bother?
If I say one word about my high school going from 100% white to 100% black since my parents went there, why, I’m an evil, ignorant, hateful, nazi bastard. I don’t even recognize my own town anymore, everyone with kids who isn’t black has moved away, and I mean everyone, because the schools are completely degraded, they are COMPLETE GHETTOS. They were nice before, where kids behaved and learned in the 5th grade what kids today aren’t even learning in the 12th. I didn’t make it that way, that’s not my fault, that’s the truth. Break-ins are PANDEMIC in my town now, and shootings, and smash and grab robberies, right behind my house! But I’m not supposed to say one word about that, or I am banned, an “aryan nazi” etc. But, I’m supposed to WRING MY HANDS over the Jewish “community”, and celebrate their unity, no matter what. If I don’t, I’m an “aryan nazi” again, ha.

John Harper on June 22, 2008 at 5:15 pm

I wonder if Buchanan would also try to whitewash the Turk genocide of 1.5 million Armenians in WW1.
The level of anti-Semitism in Europe and increasingly in the US is frightening.
That Islam would commit a Holocaust (if it could) is a given. This is like the 1930’s, only worse. This time the anti-West anti-Semitic anti-War front is an alliance of totalitarianisms: Left, Fascist, and Islamist, with elements of the non-fascist Right aiding it out of ignorance. I fear that the 21st century will be more violent and destructive than the 20th.

arius on June 22, 2008 at 5:37 pm

I realize that Debbie has issues with Hannity and that they may well be justified.
But I think it neither fair or accurate to call him a “brown shirt.”
Very few gentile talk show hosts are more pro-Israel and pro-Jewish than Hannity.
I also agree that Buchanan is an antisemite. Sean Hannity has his own reasons for promoting the book but being an antisemite cannot be one of them.
Len
[L613: BOY, YOU ARE REALLY GULLIBLE. WHAT HE SAYS ON HIS SHOW–THE GOP TALKING POINTS HE REGURGITATES LIKE A TRAINED MONKEY–AND THOSE WITH WHOM HE IS FRIENDS, IE., HAL TURNER, PAT BUCHANAN, ETC., ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THE LATTER IS REFLECTIVE OF WHO HE REALLY IS. THAT THIS DOESN’T GIVE YOU PAUSE IS TROUBLING. THAT YOU EXCUSE THIS SHOWS WHY SEAN VANNITY IS A SUCCESS–A LOT OF PEOPLE DEVOID OF ANY CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS WHATSOEVER (KINDA LIKE HIM).
THAT HE HAS THESE FRIENDS WHILE SAYING ONE THING ON HIS SHOW THAT HE REALLY DOESN’T BELIEVE (ABOUT ISRAEL) SHOWS WHAT A PHONY HE IS. BUT, HEY, YOU ARE EVIDENCE OF WHAT LINCOLN SAID: “YOU CAN FOOL SOME OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF TIME . . . .” SEAN HANNITY DOES HAVE A REASON FOR PROMOTING THE BOOK: HE’S CLUELESS, UTTERLY DEVOID OF PRINCIPLE, AND ACCORDING TO HIS FORMER CLOSE FRIEND HAL TURNER, A COMPLETE ANTI-SEMITE (BUT WANTS TO KEEP HIS MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR JOB).
BUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU BUY INTO THE FRAUD AND VAPIDITY, AND THAT’S WHY PAT BUCHANAN AND HIS PRO-HITLER BOOK WILL ALWAYS HAVE A FORUM. MAZEL TOV [CONGRATS] TO YOU ON YOUR INCREDIBLE SIMPLICITY AND NAIVETE.
NEXT YOU’LL BE TELLING US THAT YOU’RE SURE SEAN HAS GOOD REASONS FOR BEING FRIENDS WITH DAVID DUKE AND PROMOTING HIS BOOK. IN THE 1930S AND ’40S, YOU’D HAVE TOLD US THAT THERE WAS A GOOD REASON FOR PROMOTING GOEBBELS’ BOOK, WHICH VANNITY WOULD CERTAINLY DO. DS]

len613 on June 22, 2008 at 5:46 pm

One small point; the Holocaust was known to the West for sure as soon as early 1942. There were numerous reliable reports coming to the West by that time, especially from the Polish government in exile, although certainly Hitler’s intentions were clear long before that.
JH’s anti-semitic garbage is as bad as anything I’ve seen. It doesn’t merit a serious response.

c f on June 22, 2008 at 5:47 pm

No Pasaran!: Don’t confuse American Jews with Israeli Jews. Many of the former have had their thinking twisted backwards by their liberal friends to the point of taking positions that are deadly to the survival of Israel.
Yes, Jews are ‘different’. They might wear funny hats, etc. But remember that we are a Judeo-Christian civilization and Christ was a Jew. Jews are our allies in this century of war with Islam. We need them and they need us.

arius on June 22, 2008 at 5:48 pm

I think what some people don’t realize is this is Debbie’s blog and we who are posting are guests in her house. When people abuse it, they deserve to not have an audience and be tossed out on their ear.
I’m thoroughly disgusted that fox gives even one second to the likes of buchanan, sharpton, geraldo..etc. These are low lifes and it is odd because there is so many good people out there to uplift and hear from. Whenever buchanan talks I wince. I’ve never liked his isolationist views. I don’t know anyone in my circles that like these people so how on earth do they get this press to show themselves off and spew vile things?

diaphanous on June 22, 2008 at 7:36 pm

Buchanan is a product of the ‘fifties. That was a period where Jews were at long last being employed in old school institutions. The exclusionary class – Central Europeans and Roman Catholics (themselves somewhat excluded until JFK) – resorted to subtle anti-semitism, that became brazen at times.
DEBBIE: if you have the time tonight, google “swastika epidemic.” I am old enough to remember it. There was soul-searching afterward, but it was really ugly for a while. My Ukranian neighbor spoke of Jews eating bread that contained blood drawn from Christian babies. Fellow students practised drawing swastikas in school. Chicago was said to be the worst place in the world to be a Jew, in 1959.
You probably know someone with JSTOR access:
http://www.jstor.org/pss/799237
“The Swastika Epidemic of 1959-1960: Anti-Semitism and Community Characteristics.” By Howard J Ehrlich.
IT CAN’T HAPPEN HERE; IT HAPPENED HERE.

supercargo on June 22, 2008 at 8:00 pm

c f, I have to say JH made me pretty angry at first but I agree with part of what he is saying. If we Jews expect to be supported by non Jewish people, we shouldn’t expect people like Buchanan to overlook the welfare of Westerners at large. We should be demanding to be included in so-called aryan circles, not trying to stamp them out, ridiculing them, and setting ourselves apart from them. We are an integral part of Western history. Hitler attempted his genocide before either of my parents were born. In the meantime, by alienating the likes of Buchanan or “JH”, we are picking a fight for no reason. We should demand to be let in to our rightful place instead of excluding ourselves and tearing down someone like Buchanan.

Sue Denemme on June 22, 2008 at 8:00 pm

Sue are you serious? If one wants to have any type of peace, embracing groups that act like aryan nation types is NOT going to help it along. It will make people like myself abandon people that embrace such hatred types. If any of my friends ever lent credence to aryan type stuff or spoke highly of people like buchanan, I’d ask them to not call me back, Ever. Have you read the American kkk’s website? The WHO WE ARE statement even scares me as a white person. I can’t even imagine how non whites must feel when they read such statements.
There is no such thing as total peace and we need to come to grips with the fact that we will always have to fight evil ideologies and judging them harshly saying that that is NOT what is needed in peaceful civilizations will get us more peace in the end than if we “embrace” these people who follow evil ideologies. We are no longer allowed to “judge” things that should be judged without being told to “embrace” this crap and not alienate evil..and we wonder why we are going down the crapper.

diaphanous on June 22, 2008 at 9:25 pm

Buchanan is not advocating the welfare of westerners at large. He is supporting countries that are the antithesis of western civilization such as Nazi Germany. Although Churchill was not perfect, he towers above any leaders of Western civilization of his era. He is endorsing and promoting anti-semitic stereotypes that many people a half century ago thought that the U.S. had overcome. Buchanan’s agenda for jewish people is essentially to disband Israel, and for Jewish people to hide in a corner and relinquish any rights that have been won in the last few decades. Back to quotas, exclusion, (we’re already moving back to those things). These people have to be taken head on.

c f on June 22, 2008 at 9:57 pm

As far as Fox goes, remember the Saudis own part of Fox, Murdoch’s son is anti-Israel, and for the most part, the so-called conservative commentators are a bunch of hacks. I do respect Bill Kristol’s perceptiveness, although I disagree with him on a number of things.

c f on June 22, 2008 at 10:00 pm

The pronoun HE (IS PROMOTING) two comments ago refers to Buchanan.

c f on June 22, 2008 at 10:02 pm

Good news (I think). John McCain has ties to Christian Zionists like Rod Parsley. Said ties are not strong but let’s not forget the merit of the CZ position. The Arabs conquered Christian Byzantines, and coerced or forced conversion. Christians – like John of Damascus – found some refuge in Syria, but they were persecuted in their Holy Lands, while Jews were reduced to dhimmis or exiles.
Since 1948, Arab Muslims have coerced the exile of 2,000,000 Christians, mostly Arab Maronites. Most of South Lebanon is properly Christian majority. The only reason there are any Shiites there is the fact that Syria uses them. As for the Druze, Christians respect their interests. Muslims do not.
Unless someone intervenes Christians will be excised from all but Israel. As for the Zionist agenda, CZs believe that Zion (Israel) must be restored and the Third Temple built, under Christian protection. Jewish sovereignty would be respected. CZs believe that those conditions would result in the Second Coming. At that time, Jews would either convert or be dealt with by Jesus Christ. The whole scheme is based on permanent peace between Jews and Christians. Muslims will be treated as unlawful occupiers. In effect, that position mirrors Arab Muslim plans for Jews.
I am not even a believer, but one can hardly ignore political demands of Christian Zionists. As for the Lebanese Shiites: boot them to the Bekaa Valley and napalm them if they attempt missile attrition. In fact, I would put a US missile base in Bint Jubeil, Lebanon (rename it Reagan City, or whatever) and pressure a change in alliance for Syria.
However, if al-Sistani exploits Bush’s monumental election year stupidity, viz the Status of Forces Agreement lunacy with Iraq’s Iranian puppets, Obama will be hand delivered the presidency.

supercargo on June 22, 2008 at 11:45 pm

Sarkozy, visiting Israel, strongly condemned a gang attack on a Jewish boy in France:
http://www.ttc.org/200806221933.m5mjxiy06091.htm

supercargo on June 22, 2008 at 11:56 pm

Posted by supercargo:
[John McCain has ties to Christian Zionists like Rod Parsley.]
Pffft… McCain kicked that guy’s ass off the bus at least a month ago.

Norman Blitzer on June 23, 2008 at 12:02 am

I work in the history field and attend a psychotic leftist University for a Public History degree. I’ve worked in the field as an intern for the last 2 years and will be finished witht he internship in August.
Debbie is absolutely right this is history revisionism. This sort of behavior happens by the minutes in this field. In fact, the first moves made of any would-be power is to manipulate history.
WWII had to be fought and we had to win it. Churchill was a great man and did what he thought best and it saved countless lives and saved many freedoms for our happy days.
For Pat Buchanan, backed by Sean “I can debate like a big boy!” Hannity to make the claims that the US Should had kept out, has done little to no research. The Nazi’s, the Imperial Japanese, and the fascist Italians wanted WORLD domination. (See, the United States, Mr. Buchanan, is located on the WORLD. The big place we all live and work. You’re standing on it.) Just reading the Tanaka Memorial is enough to understand that. This is elementary world history. Stick Buchanan on “Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader” and I’m sure he’d leave in 10 minutes.
Buchanan’s and Hannity’s books also tend to repeat the works of Coulter, Limbaugh, Beck, Levin, Allen, and of course Debbie’s works that they’re not worth reading at all. The only changes they make are either unpractical or downright sinister.
As to revisionism: it’s so rampant these days that one might believe we no longer have credible sources or even a history at all. Everytime I do a research paper, I find nearly 90% conflicting accounts and histories.
Seems that to get an A in University these days, I should just ask the professor for his approved sources and then regurgitate that data. It’s almost worthless to get the degree as real work in history requires skills and hard work – not theories. If you disagree with the almightly professor… well, it ain’t pretty. You’re labeled as tainted and aren’t worth their time as they prefer students who will follow their teachings religiously. That, and I don’t attend the , binge drinking, experimenting orgies, and sodomy parties with my class or the teachers – it seriously hurt my social standing with them so far.
Sorry; a little off subject there.
Something else: if I don’t repeat word for word the revisioned history’s my professor spew out on a daily basis – they’ll fail me without hesitation or recognize a right of appeal. This happend with a Utah History class last semester where I challenged the professor to provide his sources suring a lecture about the Mountain Meadows Massacre – and he failed me in the first month of class and tained me with other students with the usual Leftist labels. I filed an appeal and I’ll probably never hear back from Administration.
This is the problem. Honest history like how and why the Holocaust began and why we needed to stop it is being constantly messed up for political/social agendas and to make some quick bucks!
You know what? This history degree isn’t worth it anymore. I’m not going to regurgitate lies and slop, or be sociable with folks who perform unnatural acts on each other; just for a tainted Masters degree. I feel like a guy getting an MD who can only end up working for Dr. Mengele. I’m going for a Library Science, or Geneology, or maybe an Archivist’s degree instead. At least those are honest careers!
(Thanks. I’ve been needing to vent for a while.)

bhparkman on June 23, 2008 at 2:50 am

For anyone still reading this thread I believe that you would be very interested in Victor Davis Hanson’s scathing critique of Mr Buchanan’s book:
http://www.victorhanson.com/articles/hanson060908.html
And when Buchanan argued that Hanson was full of it, VDH came back with a point-by point rebuttal:
http://www.victorhanson.com/articles/hanson061608.html

fgmorley on June 23, 2008 at 5:16 am

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