July 19, 2012, - 1:28 pm

Mehdi Ghezali: Bush Freed Bulgaria Bus Bomber of Jews From Gitmo, Fake Mich Driver’s License No Coincidence

By Debbie Schlussel

President Bush released Mehdi Ghezali to freedom to bomb a bus of Israelis in Bulgaria. His catch-and-release-Islamic-terrorists approach has now resulted in more murders of innocent civilians in Islamic terrorist acts. And Bush released Ghezali, despite his strong ties to convicted Millennium Bomber Ahmed Ressam. To those saying they “miss Bush,” is that one of many boneheaded Pan-Islamic things he did that you miss?

News reports are now confirming that the suicide bomber who murdered five people in yesterday’s bus bombing is Ghezali, a Swedish citizen of Algerian and Finnish descent, known as “Cuba-Swede.” He was a prisoner at Guantanamo Bay from 2002-2004, at which point he was released to freedom to kill more innocent people. An Al-Qaeda member, Ghezali was responsible for a prison uprising which killed 17 people, and yet President Bush chose to release him into the great abyss. Ghezali grew up in Sweden, committed crimes in Portugal (where he tried and failed to become a star soccer player), and was educated in mosques and Muslim schools in the West (in Great Britain) and, later, in Saudi Arabia. He was also caught trying to sneak into Afghanistan from Pakistan in 2009 after fighting with over 100 Al-Qaeda fighters in the Tora Bora Mountains, and yet he was released again. Oh, and when Ghezali was released by the Bush Administration, he was sent to Sweden, where the Swedish government–now quick to pander to that country’s growing population of Islamic immigrants–could have tried him for a number of war crimes and terrorist acts, and yet, they chose to let him live free. Now, we see the results. A bus full of people injured, a good number of them dead. Was this not predictable, given Ghezali’s history and the fact that before he came to Gitmo, Ghezali lived at the Jalalabad hideout of Millennium Bomber Ahmed Ressam, something we knew after we captured Ressam years earlier?

A number of people are pointing to the phony Michigan driver’s license that Ghezali had on him. And, make no mistake, Michigan was picked for a reason, as it has a high number of Shi’ite Muslims and it is Hezbollah central. Although Mehdi Ghazali was a Sunni Muslim, his bombing in Bulgaria, yesterday, is yet more evidence that Sunni Al-Qaeda operatives are doing Shi’ite Iran’s and Hezbollah’s work, something that the know-it-alls, who actually know nothing, seem to miss. Yesterday’s bombing was done on behalf of the Shi’ites of Iran and Hezbollah. And their most concentrated mass of supporters in America is in Dearbornistan and Dearbornistan Heights, Michigan. As I noted yesterday, not only was the Bulgaria bus bombing done on the 18th anniversary of the 1994 Iran/Hezbollah bombing of the AMIA Jewish community center in Buenos Aires, Argentina, but the family of the man who did that bombing, Ibrahim Hussein Berro, live in Dearborn and proudly gave DNA to identify him. I would not be surprised if the reason that Ghezali had a fake Michigan driver’s license is that someone in Dearborn’s Shi’ite Muslim community made it for him and had the Michigan template easily available.

Some schmuck named Andy Worthington wrote an anti-Gitmo book alleging the “innocence” of Ghezali: “The Guantanamo Files: The Stories of the 774 Detainees in America’s Illegal Prison.” And before he bombed the bus and took other lives with his own in Bulgaria yesterday, Ghezali wrote a book against the U.S., detailing his stay at Hotel Gitmo and was planning a class-action lawsuit against America. But I guess there are no dead and injured Jews plus 72-revirginized in those pipe dreams. So, he sought richer jihadist pasture because George W. Bush and the Swedes gave him the chance.

By the way, Swedish intelligence agents were supposed to monitor Ghezali after his release from Gitmo. Hey, how did that monitoring work out? Ask his victims from yesterday. The ones who still have a pulse.

News outlets in Bulgaria name suspected terrorist who blew up Israeli tour bus as Mehdi Ghezali, who spent two years in Guantanamo Bay. Security camera footage shows suspected bomber wandering in and out of terminal.


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Bulgarian media named the suspected suicide bomber who blew up a bus carrying Israeli tourists in Burgas airport on Wednesday as Mehdi Ghezali, an Algerian-Swedish Islamist who spent two years in Guantanamo Bay.

ABC News has published a photo of a fake Michigan driver’s license that belonged to the man who was identified by Bulgarian authorities as the suicide bomber who blew up a tour us carrying Israelis at Sarafovo Airport in Burgas on Wednesday.

According to the image obtained by ABC, the “Michigan Operator’s License” with the name “Jacque Felipe Martin” showed that the suspect included a fake Louisiana address as his permanent residence. The address is actually that of a Baton Rouge, La., casino called the Belle of Baton Rouge. . . .

Bulgarian television aired security camera footage Thursday showing the suspected bomber wandering in and out of the terminal shortly before the blast. He was dressed as a tourist himself, wearing a baseball cap, T-shirt, plaid shorts and sneakers with short white socks. He carried a large backpack with wheels. . . .

The body of the man seen in the video sustained the most severe damage in the blast, leading investigators to believe he was the suicide bomber. An American passport (Michigan), which was apparently fake, and other personal documents were found in his belongings.

Officials were using DNA samples to try to establish his identity. Bulgarian Prime Minister Boiko Borisov told reporters that a Michigan driver’s license was retrieved, but he said US officials reported that “there was no such person in their database.”

That’s irrelevant. I guarantee you there are several people in that database who helped him get the fake Michigan ID. And the fact is that this cretin was, in fact, in our database when he lived at Gitmo, where he should have remained.

This is what happens when you send terrorists to freedom. They kill again. It’s not Einstein stuff to figure that out.

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President Bush is the gift that keeps on giving. It is time for Republicans to repudiate the man. He was either a fool or a fraud while he was in office.

Worry on July 19, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    You really have to ask which one?

    Italkit on July 19, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    Well, you must really be disgusted, then, Worry, about all those people released when the Libs outed and demanded that we shut down all of our overseas secret holding facilities?

    Dina K on July 19, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    DID ANYONE LOOK AT THE ADDRESS ON THE DRIVERS LICENSE? CLUB BOUNCERS CAN SPOT A FAKE ID BETTER THAN HOMELAND SERCURITY/TSH…SMH SHOWS ALOT ABOUT THIS COUNTRY.

    DUUUUUHHH…. A MICHIGAN DRIVERS LICENCE WITH A BATON ROUGE, LA ADDRESS???? HAH

    Roze on July 19, 2012 at 7:07 pm

The carnage is actually worse then the mere “dry” facts would have us believe… Among the dead are a 42 woman who only recently had been able to get pregnant (after treatment and for the 1st time)… Among the dead are also one parent of 2 month old baby, the other parent is among the most severely wounded…

Also, don’t forget that the conditions are somewhat misleading:

* Lightly wounded = non life threatening (severe scarring and/or loss of function are not excluded)
* Moderately wounded = stabilized non immediate life threatening condition (severe scarring and/or loss of function are practically guaranteed) may include amputations, severe burns etc
* Heavily wounded = non stabilized life threatening condition

Hans on July 19, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    When Muslims brag about the glories of “Jihad” this is what it means. Mehdi Ghezali did not die in combat; he was too much of a coward for that. Instead, he decided to to turn himself into a bomb(painless death)that killed that the defenseless. There is no bravery here. Mehdi Ghezali had every opportunity to turn his life around, but always chose the worst course. Allah is for Losers.

    Worry on July 19, 2012 at 2:08 pm

      Worry,

      Unlike you – I believe he should have been killed in Afghanistan or been executed by the U.S military.

      I don’t agree Islamic terrorists deserve either freedom or get to live out their lives. They need to be gunned down before they can kill the rest of us.

      Ask the Israeli and Bulgarian victims if I’m the one being too extreme. They will agree if anything, I’m being too humane!

      It comes down to this: we need to have a ZERO TOLERANCE policy towards Islamic terrorists.

      NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 2:19 pm

        NormanF said “Unlike you – I believe he should have been killed in Afghanistan or been executed by the U.S military.”

        So what you advocate is that we kill people without any evidence or juridical oversight? That’s what terrorists and its not the way to defeat terrorism.

        NormanF said “I don’t agree Islamic terrorists deserve either freedom or get to live out their lives. They need to be gunned down before they can kill the rest of us.”

        I think you should be a little more circumspect about what you define as “islamic” terrorists. I think terrorists full stop should be caught, imprisoned and have their freedoms taken away. Why single out Islamic terrorists?

        NormanF said “Ask the Israeli and Bulgarian victims if I’m the one being too extreme. They will agree if anything, I’m being too humane!”

        I absolutely agree that its a tragedy that people have died at the hands of terrorists but you should perhaps cast your dispersions wider. What about the Israeli policy of cleaning the West Bank of Palestinians? For every one Israeli that dies so too do 5 Palestinians. the conflict with Israel is due to land and the occupation, which doesn’t have its roots in religion today.

        Baz on July 19, 2012 at 3:38 pm

          Baz, that is the reason du jour. What was the reason during the pogroms? Why have the Jewish people been persecuted and hunted for thousands of years?
          There is always an excuse. But you like to pin the problem on the innocent victims enjoying a holiday outing.

          Miriam on July 19, 2012 at 4:39 pm

          I can see you’re a shill for Islamic terrorists.

          Too bad you weren’t one of Ghezali’s victims yesterday. You’re an absolute waste of human skin.

          And a threat to every Jew on the planet with your embrace of the Islamic barbarians to whom you want extended due process and human compassion.

          Keep telling yourself that – and I know whom the Israeli living and dead victims of the Islamic terrorist atrocity in Burgas side with.

          You’re beyond disgusting!

          NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 4:55 pm

          Baz – Israel has indeed committed crimes against the Arabs. They include:
          1) Allowing the US to blackmail them into allowing Arafat and his band of Fatah/PLO Nazis (who were essentially defeated) onto their territory in order to lord over the West bank and Gaza Arabs.
          2) Assisting Fatah by supplying them – or allowing the US to – with weapons, training etc.
          3) Allowing this sick charade to continue. Before Israel allowed Fatah and other Islamist factions to be so empowered, there was simply no need for the IDF to conduct major military operations in the West Bank and Gaza.

          But all the stuff about the “Israelis are oppressing the Arabs” (which I once beLIEved) is a massive red herring which distracts us from a proper evidence-based understanding of the Geopolitricks of the Middle East.
          The websites hirhome dot com and tenc dot net have an abundance of documented analysis on all this.

          Nigel on July 19, 2012 at 9:20 pm

      Sorry folks but this is just one of many articles of big Deb’s that is false!

      Initial claims suggested that mehdi gezali was the culprit. But further investigation found that this was utterly false. This correction was widely circulated throughout numerous news stations and internet sources. There is no doubt schlussel was aware of this but decided to accuse innocent people anyway. Very distasteful.
      Just another attempt by fanatic pro Israel zionists (like big Deb) who are just itching to blame it on Muslims. Check your facts before you start disseminating false information to support your twisted and racist ideologies.

      daniel stein on July 20, 2012 at 8:06 pm

      The people are gone! There are those who survived and are seriously hurt! The man responsible was a captured and incarcerated at getmo, who was released! No matter what reasons he used to compel himself to do this, the message is clear: We the Muslim Extremists, will kill when ever we can! There is very little that can be used by the West to bring change to the minds of Extremist Killers! These people who are mind manipulated, or indoctrinated, or whatever tactic is used on them, are lethal weapons walking around society! The various countries involved must toughen their laws to impose death immediately upon conviction of an attempted act of terrorism! If you need an example of who uses tough execution laws; go to Arab states that execute men and women for violating religious rules of allah! Don’t accept liberal, consevative, or any other wimp ass cowards explanation of judicial cruelty! wallyworkswell@yahoo.com

      wallyworkswell@yahoo.com on July 21, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    Hans,

    You’re right, the “survivors” are not the lucky ones. Israel will have to take care of all those families the rest of their lives because they can’t work and have very limited mobility. Plus some families lost their breadwinners. Add it all up, the real-life costs of Islamic terrorism get to be very expensive: for the victims, for society and for the taxpayers.

    This is the hell to which Islamic terrorists sentence the living. But no one takes fighting them seriously. And sad to say, this will not be last time Islamic terrorists try to murder Jews and Israelis.

    Like I said, the best thing to do is prevention. As long Stupid Americans and Stupid Jews in Israel don’t institute the death penalty, no decent person in this world will ever be safe from Islamic terrorists released into the Great Abyss.

    NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 2:12 pm

      Norman, I agree we should have the death penalty here but not as a deterrent. Do you really think a guy who blows himself to be a martyr is deterred by the death penalty? Think! It’s just another route to the 72 little piggies.

      Italkit on July 19, 2012 at 3:20 pm

        Don’t take them alive!

        Execute them on sight.

        There has to be a zero tolerance policy for Islamic terrorists.

        I’m usually not a fan of “zero tolerance” but is one of the few exceptions in life where this rule ought to stick.

        Parents shouldn’t have to bury their kids as they are now doing in Israel.

        NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 5:04 pm

        Italkit, the death penalty does prevent recidivism.

        If, however, there is great deterrence if the terrorist’s family members are killed. Given that the family facilitated the terror, they should enjoy the punishment. For those who can’t bring themselves to accept this sensible approach, locking up the females until they hit menopause would be almost as effective.

        Skzion on July 19, 2012 at 5:29 pm

          Skzion, that’s a plan, give the families the same punishment. I can get behind that although, again, it would just be another route to shehada. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING is going to deter these guys. They think like the Mafia and that’s how you deal with them.

          Italkit on July 19, 2012 at 11:49 pm

This is what happens if you are to fast and do not check your source. Swedish security police says it is NOT him.
Be carefull with statement loosely based on no confirmed facts.
All you get now is being viewed as ridiculous.

Fair? on July 19, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    Fair, you need to cite your source.

    Worry on July 19, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    Reposting here from earlier post. This is a quote from an Israeli friend who used to live in Sweden. It remains anonymous to protect them:

    “As soon as I saw his photo I said to my husband, I am sure its that swedish passport holder terrorist who was in the american jail. he used to come on all swedish tv channels and explain how he was just an innocent guy and the americans have treated him so badly. once a terrorist always a terrorist. this devils should be locked and the keys thrown in the sea.”

    Italkit on July 19, 2012 at 3:23 pm

[Debbie - This is what happens when you send terrorists to freedom. They kill again. It’s not Einstein stuff to figure that out.]

I disagree. It must be difficult to figure that out since it isn’t just Bush (And Obama). Israel has also been releasing terrorists (i.e. the deal to release Gilead Shalit).

Either that or these supposed leaders simply do not care.

I_AM_ME on July 19, 2012 at 1:47 pm

More unnecessary deaths and mayhem, due to “The Decider”. He could not bring himself to decide that Islam was the actual enemy. Mr. Bush was not a leader, but someone who was perpetually in over his head. A clue should have been his inability to pick a team that did not include holdovers from his father’s time in office, such as Colin Powell and “Condo” Rice. President Bush was an empty suit that managed to discredit the Republican Party and pave the way for Barack Obama’s ascendancy. For a comparable example, one would have to go back to Herbert Hoover’s statism(radical increase in taxes and government intervention)legitimizing and paving the way for Franklin Delano Roosevelt. I remember President Calvin Coolidge’s honest assessment of his former Commerce Secretary Herbert Hoover: “Coolidge thought Hoover boastful and derided him as ‘Wonder Boy.’ ‘That man,’ he said, ‘has offered me unsolicited advice every day for six years, all of it bad.”

“Silent Cal” was able to size people up quite well. I wish we had the likes of him still. Instead, we get the “Wonder Boys”.

“Patriotism is easy to understand in America. It means looking out for yourself by looking out for your country.”

Calvin Coolidge

It was a simple statement, and yet a profound one. We no longer take heed of such wisdom.

Worry on July 19, 2012 at 1:59 pm

I was wrong about the Islamic terrorist homocide bomber being a woman. So he turned out to be was a small light man.

Given the way he was dressed, its easy to see why the victims never stood a chance.

And those who released him to murder Jews, they have a lot to answer for in the next world. Unlike the Famous But Incompetent who never did their job, the Dearborn connection is quite real enough.

When it comes to Islamic terrorism – same diff with Sunni and Shiite Muslims in killing Jews – a common goal on which they can work together. For the six dead Israelis and their families, the reason they’re dead now is America and Sweden didn’t do their jobs and the Bulgarians ignored warnings of an Islamic terrorist threat.

This is what happens when political correctness, Islamo-pandering and apathy take precedence over protecting human life. The deadly results on Wednesday where all too much in abundance.

Debbie – you’re wrong about one thing – Mehdi Ghezali shouldn’t have remained locked up in Gimo. He should have been executed, saving a few dozen lives ib the bargain. That’s why I believe the death penalty should be consistently applied to Islamic terrorists.

NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    I agree with your Norman. The policy of going out of our way to take prisoners was an insane one. Unless an individual voluntarily surrenders, one should not be obligated to accept such a person as a prisoner of war. The likes of Mehdi Ghezali was are not conscripts or professional soldiers, but mercenaries. Taking such people in as prisoners, unless they high ranking leaders, is a fool’s errand.

    Worry on July 19, 2012 at 2:14 pm

      Islamic terrorists are NOT prisoners of war. They are criminals and they are hostili generi humanis. They forfeited their claim on our human compassion. The Geneva Conventions do NOT apply to them. Every civilized country on earth should kill them on sight, not put them in a warehouse giving them the chance to brush up on their skills to murder scores of innocent people later.

      Unfortunately as I said, both America and Israel prefer to pander to Islamic terrorists and make them comfortable rather than do their jobs to keep their citizens safe. Until all that changes (I’m not holding my breathing waiting for it to ever happen) more Americans and Israelis are going to die in the future. This ain’t Rocket Science and you don’t have to be Einstein to figure out that in terms of recidivism, Islamic terrorists are world champions!

      We can’t afford them.

      NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    Norman, all your yap about Arabs killing Jews is ridiculous and utterly hypocritical. A few facts before you make everybody here dumber…..if that’s even possible.

    2005-2009 (including Gaza War):

    Palestinians killed by Israelis- 3086, 60% civilians including 30% children.

    Israelis killed by Palestinians- 276

    You should really educate yourself before you decide to unconditionally support apartheid

    daniel stein on July 20, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    What you would expect – the anti-Israel Swedes not to cover their posteriors?

    See, this is exactly the problem and why its never going to go away.

    NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 2:29 pm

      NormanF said “What you would expect – the anti-Israel Swedes not to cover their posteriors?”

      What an earth are you going on about? The Swedes aren’t anti Israel! this is the problem when people like you really don’t care much for facts. The Swedes are renowned for being pretty neutral and very unbiased. Stop talking nonsense please!

      Baz on July 19, 2012 at 3:42 pm

        Do a search on this site.

        Debbie has lots of info on ScandoIslamia, on the Jew-hatred there, the Muslim contribution to Scandinavian civilization, Sweden’s hostility to Israel, etc.

        Swedish neutrality is a myth. And oh during World War II, the country shipped iron ore to Germany that the Nazis needed for their war effort.

        I’m not the one who seldom gets his facts wrong.

        NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 4:49 pm

          NormanF said “Do a search on this site.”

          Yes do search the right wing propaganda that DS spew out. That figure of hate is so reliable as to warrant listening to her rather than informed sources.

          NormanF said “Debbie has lots of info on ScandoIslamia, on the Jew-hatred there, the Muslim contribution to Scandinavian civilization, Sweden’s hostility to Israel, etc.Swedish neutrality is a myth. And oh during World War II, the country shipped iron ore to Germany that the Nazis needed for their war effort.”

          Yeah yeah. Of course the Scandanavians are renowned for Jew Hatred….not! The country may have shipped iron ore to Germany that the Nazi’s did, but then again so did the French Vichy also support the Nazi’s. In fact, if I recall, didn’t the USA have its fair share of Anti-semites and Nazis? German-American Bund, American Liberty League, The American Legion and The Christian Front (notice Christian, not Muslim?), The American First committee? You hold onto the most tenuous of facts and then distort them to suit a persepctive that initially looks reasonable, but under further scruitny just crumbles. Most countries had minoroties that supported the Nazi’s but we don’t taint them all with the same Nazi brush jew hating brush do we?

          Normanf “I’m not the one who seldom gets his facts wrong.”

          Yeah and I beg to differ. You are a BS’er and first class distorter of reality. You are also an Anti-Islamic bigot.

          Baz on July 20, 2012 at 2:50 pm

        Baz, A.K.A. Mohammed, spare us your propaganda. The problem is Islam. Muslims, based on their faux religion, celebrate what is anti-human. For this reason, we should kill them without hesitation when they are even in the vicinity of a terrorist act.

        Ulitimately, they must be oppressed and humiliated until they revert to a real religion.

        Skzion on July 19, 2012 at 5:39 pm

          Skizon said “Baz, A.K.A. Mohammed, spare us your propaganda. The problem is Islam. Muslims, based on their faux religion, celebrate what is anti-human. For this reason, we should kill them without hesitation when they are even in the vicinity of a terrorist act. Ulitimately, they must be oppressed and humiliated until they revert to a real religion.”

          Spoken like a true Nazi and fascist. Go and read a few thousands years worth of human history and then understand this, you are a disgrace to civil decent society. Anyone who advocates oppressing and humiliating other human beings is a disgusting creature. I am pleased that we have developed as a society that people like you are confined to the fringes, the loon fringes.

          Baz on July 20, 2012 at 2:53 pm

          Baz, dear, you Muslims LOVE Nazism and Fascism. Why are you using such terms as insults? In fact, all I was doing was taking the Islamic approach and turning it against Muslims.

          I guess you don’t like that.

          Skzion on July 21, 2012 at 11:51 am

      We really need a “thumbs up” thumbs down” feature on these comments. Something there’s nothing to add but it’s nice to be able to agree or disagree.

      Italkit on July 19, 2012 at 11:53 pm

        Thumbs up to that, Italkit.

        JeffE on July 20, 2012 at 12:14 am

    Repeat, or is it Fair? I just read your link. All that it states is a general denial, and nothing more:

    “It circulates information in Bulgarian media that the bombing of a tourist bus in Bulgaria was conducted by a named Swedish.
    It is rejected by the Security Service.- We reject this name. I can not develop it more, says Claes Ohlsson, duty officer at SAPO.”

    How would Claes Ohlsson know? It is odd that such a minor person would make such an authoritative statement. What is weirder is his saying, “I cannot develop it more.” Give us something a bit firmer friend.

    Worry on July 19, 2012 at 2:33 pm

Here is the latest. I think Sweden is protesting a bit too much at this point: http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/07/19/bulgaria-bus-bomber-in-attack-on-israeli-tourists-was-ex-guantanamo-bay-detainee-mehdi-ghezali-reports/

Worry on July 19, 2012 at 2:38 pm

As I recall, GW was under a lot of pressure to release these thugs. Remember all the “war crime” accusations over Gitmo? Remember the “torture” allegations? Remember all the “innocent” people in Gitmo. Remember all the calls for Dick Cheney’s “arrest” for “torture”. GW’s fault was to not stand up to the left. As I recall, the left didn’t have any criticism about GW & Co about not being hard enough against Muslims.

JerryD on July 19, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    Get real!

    That’s making excuses for his snuggling up to Islam.

    In that respect, Bush was no different from Obama, only Obama doesn’t pretend to fight a tactic.

    Don’t look for things to be any different under a President Romney. Let’s face it, people are more terrified of Islam than they are resolute in recognizing it as the ultimate evil of our age.

    Look for the human carnage perpetrated by Islamic terrorists to continue to make the headlines.

    NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 2:48 pm

Remember Bush’s immortal words, “Islam is a religion of peace”.
What a fraud that man was. Now we have the possibility of a Bush clone, Mitt Romney,taking office. How much better than Obama would he be as far as terrorism is questionable.

Jerry G on July 19, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    I think Bush was briefed by Muslimophile (married to one) Grover Norquist- the R party is not without it’s Israel and jewhaters.

    Can we nominate Norman for prez? Deb for or SOS?

    Isahiah62 on July 19, 2012 at 5:42 pm

      I was born in Canada – so I’m not eligible.

      Plus – my views are pretty extreme. :)

      NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 6:07 pm

Jerry G,

A tad better than Obama. But I wouldn’t count on Republican taking the threat presented by Islam any more seriously than the Democrats do.

NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 2:50 pm

I don’t care for GW, but I do notice that the lefts critics is that he was Islamophobic. Notice the uproar about Michelle Bachman’s questioning of Hillary’s Islamic Deputy (the one with the pervert husband). I don’t think the accusation is out of hand but see how it is covered, even on Fox news. Everyone seems to be intimidated.

JerryD on July 19, 2012 at 2:54 pm

I can’t give the citation for this to protect my Israeli friend but she used to live in Sweden and Thank G-d she’s home now.

“As soon as I saw his photo I said to my husband, I am sure its that swedish passport holder terrorist who was in the american jail. he used to come on all swedish tv channels and explain how he was just an innocent guy and the americans have treated him so badly. once a terrorist always a terrorist. this devils should be locked and the keys thrown in the sea.”

Italkit on July 19, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    We don’t have a Devils’ Island!

    The problem is keeping such vermin alive means lots of dead kids later – even if they’re already young adults.

    There’s no solution apart from the death penalty that would be a deterrent to such monsters in our midst.

    NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 6:11 pm

It s not him !!

sorry for the victims
and sorry for the 14 palestinians victims killed last month too
and sorry for the afghans kids killed by a american soldier
every life is priceless
no one is more important than another

note on July 19, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    I am sorry for you!! YOU HAVE NO LIVE BRAIN CELLS, dolt!

    Alabama Pride on July 19, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    note, you are quite wrong. Muslim life is not precious, just as Nazi life was not precious in WW2.

    Fakestinians in Eretz Israel should be summarily slaughtered given that a situation of milchemet mitzvah (Jewish defensive war) exists.

    Skzion on July 19, 2012 at 5:48 pm

      Skizon said “Fakestinians in Eretz Israel should be summarily slaughtered given that a situation of milchemet mitzvah (Jewish defensive war) exists.”

      You are a genocidal maniac. People like you should be arrested and tried for incitement to murder. I’m glad you put that thought into writing because most normal decent human beings would be appalled at this behaviour.

      Baz on July 20, 2012 at 2:56 pm

        Baz, you, being a Muslim, should understand my point quite well, as Islam took the concept from Judaism. For example, Mo had every Jew in Arabia attacked and killed or expelled.

        Skzion on July 21, 2012 at 11:57 am

Dear Note:
The Palestinians are responsible for their own deaths. Sorry but that is true. Non Muslim lives are more sacred then Islamic lives. As for Afghans – they are scum.

Repeat on July 19, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Now, YOU have plenty of working brain cells!! Plus you are 100% correct about non-Muslims!!

    Alabama Pride on July 19, 2012 at 3:37 pm

repeat said “Dear Note:
The Palestinians are responsible for their own deaths. Sorry but that is true. Non Muslim lives are more sacred then Islamic lives. As for Afghans – they are scum.”

O really? How is it that a population that are no match for the IDF and has been persecuted by the Israelis for decades are responisble for their own deaths? Why is it that UN resolutions against Israel have been vetoed solely by the USA while the rest of the world has supported them? Is the world Anti Israeli or is it that Israel is wrong?

Baz on July 19, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    How about the population that has to live in shelters, their children unable to go to school, the parents unable to earn a living all because primitives who can’t even manage their own affairs well enough to create a real state, are throwing rockets at Israelis every day? Why doesn’t the Muslim Brotherhood do what the Jewish Agency did years ago and send support for it’s people to build kibbutzes, develop industry and prosper at the work of their own hands? Why did “Palestinians” take fertile farms, prosperous greenhouses and beautiful villas they were given in Gaza and totally destroy them? And you claim “Palestinians” are being killed. NOPE! Not happening. We fought a war in 1967 and WE WON! The JORDANIANS refused to repatriate their own people. People who held Jordanian citizenship for generations. Our only mistake was not annexing that land. Now our supposedly oppressed captives have universities, villas, 5 star resorts and actually demand a “contiguous” state which would divide ours outside the so called “territories.”
    You’re an idiot, Baz and you have no facts.

    Italkit on July 19, 2012 at 5:23 pm

      No facts? Ok how about this:

      TOTALS DEATHS SINCE SEPT 2000:
      Israelis: 129

      TOTALS DEATHS FOR 2010:
      Israelis: 0

      TOTALS DEATHS SINCE SEPT 2000:
      Palestinians: 1477

      TOTALS DEATHS FOR 2010:
      Palestinians: 15

      One third of the casualties in the West Bank and Gaza were children. A quarter of Palestinian children suffered from post traumatic stress disorder due to the constant impinging by the IDF on their lives. Indeed the rockets are an evil thing and many an Israeli casualty has been suffered, but stop trying to pretend its all one way. The Palestinans don’t control their aerospace or borders and live in a virtual prison created by Isreal. You beat a dog continually every single day what do you think he’ll do when he gets the chance? the Israeli treatment of Palestians has created a brutalised population of people who will carry out acts that no normal or sane person would. B’tslem and other fantatis Israeli agencies have covered the consequences of the conflict so you know I have not made this up.

      You can also stop your fallacy about the Palestinians being Jordanians. They are a different people and they always have been. Why should Jordan clean up Israel’s mess?

      If you want to treat people like dogs you will get bitten. Clearly you are an Israeli and I see your point of view. I have many Israeli friends and guess what, they don’t agree with you.

      Baz on July 19, 2012 at 6:37 pm

        BAZtard’s numbers just prove the wicked and disgusting Fakestinians are doing all they can to TRY to disrupt and kill Jews and that Israel is doing better in helping keep Israelis safe and killing the evil Fakestinian terrorist trash.

        It’s a great day when the Jewish number of terror deaths is 0 and the “Fakestinian” number is high.

        And the Fakestinians are passing that PTSD on to their children NOT the Jooooooooooos. There would be peace if Fakestinians believed in what Zionists believe.

        Skunky on July 19, 2012 at 6:50 pm

        Cite your sources. Oh wait, you can’t because you made them up. Yah, they’re not Hashamites who were the minority tribe in Jordan but the “West Bank” was part of Jordan until WE WON the war, and so they have citizenship there. Some also have Egyptian citizenship but I guess in the Caliphate it’s all irrelevant anyway since Islam recognizes no secular state. As for messes, the Fakestinians are masters at it as witnessed by the mess they made of the beautiful, productive farms we gave them in Gaza. And as for the mess they find themselves in? Who started ALL the wars we’ve had to fight to defend ourselves? YOU guys did. Idiot! We were willing to live alongside you in peace but NO, you had to compensate for a lack of manhood and shoot missiles and rape and slaughter women and children. Go read about the Hevron Massacre of 1929 for a start. Idiot!

        Italkit on July 20, 2012 at 12:01 am

          Italkit said “Cite your sources. Oh wait, you can’t because you made them up. Yah, they’re not Hashamites who were the minority tribe in Jordan but the “West Bank” was part of Jordan until WE WON the war, and so they have citizenship there. Some also have Egyptian citizenship but I guess in the Caliphate it’s all irrelevant anyway since Islam recognizes no secular state. As for messes, the Fakestinians are masters at it as witnessed by the mess they made of the beautiful, productive farms we gave them in Gaza. And as for the mess they find themselves in? Who started ALL the wars we’ve had to fight to defend ourselves? YOU guys did. Idiot! We were willing to live alongside you in peace but NO, you had to compensate for a lack of manhood and shoot missiles and rape and slaughter women and children. Go read about the Hevron Massacre of 1929 for a start. Idiot!”

          The West Bank was run by Jordan in the same way Hong Kong was run by the British. It doesn’t mean they’re the same people. As for Islam not recognising any secular state, then please show me where it says that? You’re the one making stuff up. The farms you gave them in Gaza? Human rights watch and countless other human rights agencies, including Israeli ones have documented the way you’ve treated people in Gaza. You’ve created a virtual prison and locked them into a small peice of land. All the water in the west bank is stolen and used by the Israelis to water their lands and leave the rest parched.

          The original Jews from Israel and Middle East lived side by side with Arabs in peace for centuries. When things got bad is when the European Jews after the second world war come back to their so called “promised land” and zionism was born. That’s when the conflict started. Bill Clinton himself said that israel let him down personally when the last attempt at peace failed because they didn’t want to return stolen land. Hevron Massacare? What about Hebron and Chatilla when the IDF stood by as their phalangist allies slaughtered, raped and killed thousands of Palestinians? This is the issue, you only seem the crimes inflicted against you, not what you inflict against others.

          I wish Israel peace and security and every right to live within its 1967 borders. But if you want to make life miserable for others through occupation then don’t cry when retaliation is wrought against you.

          Baz on July 20, 2012 at 2:04 pm

Debbie I agree the bomber should’ve been stomped to death in Guantanamo and buried in pig skin but on the other hand the Iranians can always find someone to blow up a bus. There’s really no down side for them and barely for Hezbollah. Israel needs to change the equation. Perhaps flattening Beirut, Cairo, Damascus, Tehran and Dearborn would be a good start.

A1 on July 19, 2012 at 3:47 pm

Speaker Boehner (the wimp) criticized Rep. Bachmann and others today for daring to make inquiries about Moslems given access
to our FBI, CIA, military etc. Bush lied about islam and soon after 9/11 felt some military action was necessary, but he could not bring himself to REALLY eradicate terrorism. Instead, by early 2002 he sent Colon Powell (the great moderate) to parlay (and elevate!) Atrafat. Then instead of ridding the world of one of the top terrorists, he give Yasser three years to “get his act” together! “W” was overly tolerant of islamic terrorism, and for our current Holy 12th Imam in the WH, now CAIR and their allied groups are almost in charge of setting up new restrictions here in the US. It is called sharia law. Since DHS was set up, its mission has done a 180 degree turn. Now it functions as a Moslem (Sharia) Outreach.

Bush, Boehner, McCain and many others have simply given up on the Constitution and America. Expect Bill Ayers in the president’s cabinet after the next “election.”

Otto Schaden on July 19, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    To Otto Schaden: ‘Bush, Boehner, McCain and many others have simply given up on the Constitution and America. Expect Bill Ayers in the president’s cabinet after the next “election.”

    Many a true word spoken in jest. Rep Michelle Bachman must not let this matter fade away. Here’s more to add to the subject.

    ‘If Wikipedia is correct, Ms Abedin came to this country from Saudi Arabia only two or three years before she became an intern at the White House. She attended George Washington University. Did she graduate? What did she study? How does a 20-year old with (presumably) no degree at that point, and brand new to the country, get a job at the White House? So Huma has a mother who teaches in Saudi Arabia. Teaches where and what? Well, Mom’s actually a co-founder and dean at a tiny all-women’s university founded three years after Huma started working at the White House, and funded by a Saudi billionaire. But Mom spends a lot of her time promoting “spritually” (read – Islamic)-based global governance. Just the kind of thing Hillary has always been drawn to. And Huma’s Mom and brother Hassan run the London-based Institute for Muslim Minority Affairs, while Hassan is also the King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz Fellow at the Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies. In other words, at least two of Huma’s closest family members are essentially living off of the Wahabists’.

    The same people who generously funded the Clinton library. Until the elected politicians ‘fess up’ and start working for the people and not for their own pockets, the people are going to live a second hand existence.

    Eyes Wide Open on July 19, 2012 at 7:31 pm

The incredibly stupid Shimon Peres’ Love Letter to Islam (for Ramadan) must be seen to be believed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJIHlP10ylQ&feature=player_embedded

This comes a DAY AFTER six Israelis were murdered by an Islamic terrorist and here the cretin fool who is the President Of Israel is wishing Muslims “Happy Ramadan” and babbling the usual leftist BS about “common values, peace and tolerance.”

I just hate that man! Whatever happened to “cease to do evil, learn to do good,” as the Hebrew prophets enjoined us? What I can guarantee you all is not a single Muslim will like or respect a Jew after watching this idiotic tribute to the most anti-Semitic and genocidal death cult on earth.

No doubt if Peres had lived in the 1930s, he’d have been extending greetings to the Nazis too on their “holidays.” Same diff here!

And an insult to the Israelis killed and injured by an Islamic terrorist in the name of Allah!

Alhamidullah – praise Allah for Peres’ stupdity and his BJ ode to Islam!

NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    NormanF said “The incredibly stupid Shimon Peres’ Love Letter to Islam (for Ramadan) must be seen to be believed:”

    What’s incredibly stupid is that you’d like to condemn an entire religion comprising of 30% of the worlds population as terrorists. Are you really going to hold 30% of the worlds population who are as diverse and different as the west and Christian world are accountable for the actions of minorities? By that logic we should condemn all of Christianity and Christians for the actions of the Lords Army in Africa or even David Koresh. Daft isn’t it?

    Fortunately Shimon Peres has got more political sense than you and his video is an example of deft statesmanship to build bridges. If I repeated your statements but changed the word Muslim of Jew I’d be rightly called an anti-semite or Jew hater……figure the rest out.

    Baz on July 19, 2012 at 5:21 pm

      You will never see a Muslim apologize to us for killing Jews and Christians. Jihad is a basic religious obligation of Islam. That’s why there are Islamic terrorists. You don’t see Jews, Christians, Hindus and Wiccans commit terrorist acts in the name of their religion.

      Muslims are barbarians! When they aren’t killing us, they kill each other like there is no tomorrow. Peres’ “Happy Ramadan” video is as out of place as a video from him would be offering congratulations to the Nazis on their holidays. Muslims hate the Jews and Israel.

      But shills for Islam like you will acknowledge it.

      NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    NormanF said “I just hate that man! Whatever happened to “cease to do evil, learn to do good,” as the Hebrew prophets enjoined us? What I can guarantee you all is not a single Muslim will like or respect a Jew after watching this idiotic tribute to the most anti-Semitic and genocidal death cult on earth.

    No doubt if Peres had lived in ”

    You really should try and curb that zealously bigotry you exhibit. You clearly don’t understand what Semitic means either. Arabs, who happen to be muslims, are also semetic and so by reason a religion cannot be anti-semetic when its members comprise semites.

    If also by your definition Islam is a cult, then so is probably every single religion in the word.

    If you also think the war between Israel and Iran is purely religious then you are completely blind to political reality. The conflict between Israel and Iran is about regional hegemony and to dominate the region. If Islam were so united then how comes the Saudi arabians distrust the iranians as much as the Israelis? The distrust between Saudia Arabia and Iran is more of a religious centric one than between Iran and Israel.

    Those poor people killed yesterday were killed by terrorist fanatics and most certainly most muslims also found it revolting.

    I think you need to stop your generalisations of Islam.

    Baz on July 19, 2012 at 5:29 pm

      blah blah blah- Baz you are in the wrong house to be preaching this nonsense, this revisionism, this caricature of moral equivalence.
      Go home to your people, your Chavistas. your commies, your OWS, your Arab Spingers, your multiculti compadres and take your excuses for ISLAM with you– shoo now fly buzz off

      Isahiah62 on July 19, 2012 at 5:52 pm

        Isah said “blah blah blah- Baz you are in the wrong house to be preaching this nonsense, this revisionism, this caricature of moral equivalence.
        Go home to your people, your Chavistas. your commies, your OWS, your Arab Spingers, your multiculti compadres and take your excuses for ISLAM with you– shoo now fly buzz off”

        Hmm interesting. So anyone who disagrees with you is talking nonsense, engaging in revisionism and caricature of moral equivalence? See I think the issue is this. You’re a hater. You’ve made your mind up and no facts are gonna get in your way. In the dark ages we had people who hunted witches. You bare a scarily close resemblance of that mindset.

        Baz on July 19, 2012 at 6:15 pm

          Someone who spouts idiotic nonsense, doesn’t have a clue as to what he talking about and can’t distinguish friend from foe is the one who has his mind made up. And that mind from the likes of you is going to get us all killed in the future!

          NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 6:54 pm

        Baz is selling fools gold again. He loves to lick it and rub it up his dumb arse but in the opposite way I just described.

        Unless one is a hater of Joooooooooooooooooos who are they gonna feel more safe with? Jews or a Moooooooooslim? I’m gonna pick a Jew every time (but if they are a Liberal Jew I will have to worry if their sympathy for the Devil will get us killed anyway!)

        Bastard Baz has to go around the block 10 times to get to his conclusion while I just have to peek outside my front door and know the WHOLE story. Those with brains will use Occam’s Razor.

        Baz, you keep on lovin’ those Moooooooslims. We’ll see where that gets you. I’ll continue not to trust them and their satanic, backwards religion.

        Just ask Lara Logan and that other Brit blonde who was gang-raped in Egypt how that Moooooooslim trust is going!

        Skunky on July 19, 2012 at 6:20 pm

      I meant to say in my previous post that you will never acknowledge that Jew-hatred is central to Islam.

      Its not Islamphobia! Muslims are among the most violent people on earth. The Semitic argument you offer to excuse Arab anti-Semitism doesn’t hold water. Anti-Semitism has always been understood to mean hatred of the Jews. And Jews can also be anti-Semites.

      Islam IS a death cult. It has a few billion adherents which means its far dangerous than the fringe cults we often hear about in the media are. Those cults generally end up killing their own followers. But Islam seeks to kill others which is what makes it very different from the other cults that spring up from time to time.

      ALL Muslims hate the Jews and Israel! While they have doctrinal differences they can’t peaceably reconcile, it doesn’t stop them from working together to murder Jews. Ghezali came from Al Qaeda, which considers Shiite Muslims to be heretics. But that didn’t stop him from working in the service of Hezbollah and Iran to mass murder Israeli tourists in Burgas. When it comes to the Jews, both Sunni and Shiite Muslims can readily put aside their differences. And it happens more often than you think.

      Name me ONE Muslim who condemns jihad on moral grounds or who finds the murder of Jews and Christian abhorrent. At the most they won’t like a particular terrorist act because it was politically inconvenient for them. But you will never ever hear them apologize for killing us!

      They are NOT generalizations about Islam. They are valid universal truths about the nature and intent of that religion. Idiots like you who have your head covered with sand want to keep on making excuses for them. The duty of the honest man is to tell the truth and alert people to danger. Back in the day that was about Communism. Today, its about Islam!

      NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 5:55 pm

        Norman, you just spoke WAAAAAAAAAAAY over Baz’s head.

        He does not know fact ONE about the differences between Sunni and Shi’ite Moooooooslims. He just knows dumb, know-nothing Liberal talking points that don’t go beyond “I’d like to give the world a Coke” and Kumbaya.

        That takes the legs right from under Baz even before the idiot forms a know-nothing thought. Those following his way of thinking are following a fool.

        Skunky on July 19, 2012 at 6:28 pm

          Skunky said “Norman, you just spoke WAAAAAAAAAAAY over Baz’s head.He does not know fact ONE about the differences between Sunni and Shi’ite Moooooooslims. He just knows dumb, know-nothing Liberal talking points that don’t go beyond “I’d like to give the world a Coke” and Kumbaya.That takes the legs right from under Baz even before the idiot forms a know-nothing thought. Those following his way of thinking are following a fool.”

          You know you remind of one of those pathetic side kicks the main villain has on the movies.

          Baz did not talk way over my head, though I sure do suspect most of them went over yours. I know plenty about Islam thank you as I do Christianity and Judaism. Its retards like you that got us into the mess we are in today. Try and contribute something meaningful pls.

          Baz on July 19, 2012 at 6:55 pm

        NormanF “I meant to say in my previous post that you will never acknowledge that Jew-hatred is central to Islam.”

        Really? Care to show me your evidence for that? I’ve read the bible and Quran and never seen such references but happy to be enlightened by you on this.

        NormanF said “not Islamphobia! Muslims are among the most violent people on earth. The Semitic argument you offer to excuse Arab anti-Semitism doesn’t hold water. Anti-Semitism has always been understood to mean hatred of the Jews. And Jews can also be anti-Semites.”

        My argument does indeed hold water. I didn’t offer an excuse for Arab anti-semetism at all. I simply pointed out that you are wrong, but carry on. How many Jews do you know who are anti-semeites ? I have plenty of Jewish friends and I have yet to find an anti-semite amongst them.

        NormanF said “Islam IS a death cult. It has a few billion adherents which means its far dangerous than the fringe cults we often hear about in the media are. Those cults generally end up killing their own followers. But Islam seeks to kill others which is what makes it very different from the other cults that spring up from time to time.”

        Yawn, yes bogey men everywhere. I’ve seen the last two hundred years of global conflict revolve around ideological, political and good old imperialism but I’ve yet to see ANY religion, let alone Islam, contribute anywhere near the number of deaths. You have no idea what you are talking about do you? You jibber rubbish. Not all fringe cults end up killing themselves and I think you need to go look at a definition of what a cult actually is and what it means in practise. If you think 30% of the worlds population belong to cult then you’ve departed from reality.

        NormanF said “ALL Muslims hate the Jews and Israel! While they have doctrinal differences they can’t peaceably reconcile, it doesn’t stop them from working together to murder Jews. Ghezali came from Al Qaeda, which considers Shiite Muslims to be heretics. But that didn’t stop him from working in the service of Hezbollah and Iran to mass murder Israeli tourists in Burgas. When it comes to the Jews, both Sunni and Shiite Muslims can readily put aside their differences. And it happens more often than you think.”

        Again, I repeat, show me your evidence all Muslims hate jews and Israel. Isn’t Turkey a muslim country yet they are allies with Israel. Israel’s beef is with its neighbours and Iran and that’s all about land and local domination. Get real if you think these Arabs are fighting for some religious cause. they’re no different to any other country; they are fighting for themselves and their own interests.

        Norman F said “Name me ONE Muslim who condemns jihad on moral grounds or who finds the murder of Jews and Christian abhorrent. At the most they won’t like a particular terrorist act because it was politically inconvenient for them. But you will never ever hear them apologize for killing us!”

        I think you need to listen more closely. Lot’s of Muslims have condemned terrorist acts. As for your use of Jihad, you really show lack of understanding. The word Jihad actually mainly refers to non-violent struggle. Jihad takes the forms of learning self control, verbally stopping wrong and physically stopping wrong. Murder of any civilian regardless of race, religion or creed is wrong and routinely critised. ever read arabic press?

        NormanF said “They are NOT generalizations about Islam. They are valid universal truths about the nature and intent of that religion. Idiots like you who have your head covered with sand want to keep on making excuses for them. The duty of the honest man is to tell the truth and alert people to danger. Back in the day that was about Communism. Today, its about Islam!”

        Yes and if you understood conflicts and what drives them then you might see other causese. Stop jumping on this anti-muslim bandwagon and claiming its the cause of the worlds woes. You sound childish and daft.

        Baz on July 19, 2012 at 6:51 pm

          You haven’t read the Hadiths, early Islamic history, the Pact Of Omar, etc. Jews who stepped out of their place of degradation in Islam were marked for murder. There have been pogroms throughout the Arab Muslim World for centuries. But clearly you’re not interested in the facts.

          It doesn’t – and Richard Falk, Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein and Gilad Atzmon are Jewish and are among the most vicious haters of Jews and Israel on the planet. That old saw about your “Jewish friends” – thanks for bringing it up! Its the oldest excuse anti-Semites offer to show they don’t hate Jews at all! You can’t find any anti-Semites because you are one yourself.

          Islam IS a cult! It demonstrates the fanaticism, fear, brain-washing and total control over aspect of its adherents’ lives that we associate with cults. The only difference in the sheer numbers it commands. And de-programming cult members as we all know, is an exercise in sheer frustration. Plus Islam will execute those who try to leave it.

          Today Turkey is Islamist – led by leaders who hate the Jews and Israel. The Arabs seek to destroy Israel. None of them has ever shown ANY readiness to recognize Israel as the Jewish State or to live in peace with it. Islam’s rejection of Zionism ensures Jews must always carry the sword – I think Yair Shamir made the point after his father passed away and the conflict will never end.

          You have not named ONE Muslim because you can’t! Jihad in classical Islamic doctrine ALWAYS means terror and war against the infidels. You have to explain it away because you can’t face the reality Islam is a religion of the sword! That is how it historically conquered lands from the Atlantic Ocean to the Indian Ocean, putting millions to death and forcing the rest to convert to Islam. In the Arab World, in the press, the murders of Jews is praised and they hand out sweets as a reward for the slaughter of them – you are truly a mindless idiot who has no clue as to the barbarians Muslims truly are!

          Islam like Communism threatens our freedoms, our very lives and our future! That you don’t see it says a lot more about you than it does about those of us who want to stop Islam! It already extinguished eight lives in Burgas. I don’t have to apologize for hating what it has done to beautiful people, who sadly, will no longer be with us!

          As for being childish and daft – well the likes of you are as much responsible for the mass murders of those Jews on that bus in Burgas as the Islamic terrorist was because you aid and abet him! And that is as sick and depraved as anything I have ever seen in all my years upon this earth.

          NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 7:19 pm

          NormanF said “You haven’t read the Hadiths, early Islamic history, the Pact Of Omar, etc. Jews who stepped out of their place of degradation in Islam were marked for murder. There have been pogroms throughout the Arab Muslim World for centuries. But clearly you’re not interested in the facts.”

          I have read them actually. And again I repeat, you are making stuff up. You have no clue about history. Given that I study history quite avidly I do indeed understand the facts. refer to one hadith that you are claiming backs up your statement? If you also understood early Islamic history you’d realise the conflicts were all about treaties and conflicts between the arabs. The Jews became involved when they sided with a group that was against the Muslims.

          NormanF Said “It doesn’t – and Richard Falk, Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein and Gilad Atzmon are Jewish and are among the most vicious haters of Jews and Israel on the planet. That old saw about your “Jewish friends” – thanks for bringing it up! Its the oldest excuse anti-Semites offer to show they don’t hate Jews at all! You can’t find any anti-Semites because you are one yourself.”

          O for FFS get real. Noam Chomsky and all the others you name are not vicious haters of Jews or Israel. They are haters of wrongs and that’s what they point out. You are just completely offensive labelling them jew haters. You are also engaging in the common tactic used to denegrate anyone who opposes the hardline right wing Zionist view. And you’ve not failed to disappoint me with you labelling me an anti-semite. get real. You are a bigot and anti_islamic nutcase. You don’t see reason. There are over 50 UN resolutions that Israel has failed to comply with and the international community has repeatedly called Upon Israel to abide by 1967 borders.

          Norman F said “Islam IS a cult! It demonstrates the fanaticism, fear, brain-washing and total control over aspect of its adherents’ lives that we associate with cults. The only difference in the sheer numbers it commands. And de-programming cult members as we all know, is an exercise in sheer frustration. Plus Islam will execute those who try to leave it.”

          Shouting louder won’t turn BS into fact. You can carry on labelling it a cult but the world sees otherwise. You are right wing loon sir. You are so far off to the right that you emulate the terrorists you so claim to hate.

          NormanF Said “Today Turkey is Islamist – led by leaders who hate the Jews and Israel. The Arabs seek to destroy Israel. None of them has ever shown ANY readiness to recognize Israel as the Jewish State or to live in peace with it. Islam’s rejection of Zionism ensures Jews must always carry the sword – I think Yair Shamir made the point after his father passed away and the conflict will never end.”

          Hahaha. I’m begining to enjoy your claptrap. It’s getting really funny. Turkey has a military alliance with Israel so can’t see how you come to the conclusion they hate Israel and Jews. Israel is recognised for your information by Turkey and a host of other countries.

          NormanF said “You have not named ONE Muslim because you can’t! Jihad in classical Islamic doctrine ALWAYS means terror and war against the infidels. You have to explain it away because you can’t face the reality Islam is a religion of the sword! That is how it historically conquered lands from the Atlantic Ocean to the Indian Ocean, putting millions to death and forcing the rest to convert to Islam. In the Arab World, in the press, the murders of Jews is praised and they hand out sweets as a reward for the slaughter of them – you are truly a mindless idiot who has no clue as to the barbarians Muslims truly are!”

          Hahahahaha. That old chesnut has been discredited by most historians. No belief can be propagated with the sword and be so long lasting. What historical books are you reading.

          NormanF “Islam like Communism threatens our freedoms, our very lives and our future! That you don’t see it says a lot more about you than it does about those of us who want to stop Islam! It already extinguished eight lives in Burgas. I don’t have to apologize for hating what it has done to beautiful people, who sadly, will no longer be with us!”

          Yawn yes course it does. I’d say a country that has bombed over 45 countries since the second world war and has more army bases in more international countries such as a the USA is a bigger threat to global freedoms than any religion.

          NormanF “As for being childish and daft – well the likes of you are as much responsible for the mass murders of those Jews on that bus in Burgas as the Islamic terrorist was because you aid and abet him! And that is as sick and depraved as anything I have ever seen in all my years upon this earth.”

          Aid and abet? You are a complete fool. What’s sick and depraved is you and the nut jobs that hover around these forums like a bad smell. Your revisionist view of history that distorts reality is what’s dangerous. I don’t know if you actually believe the BS you eject from that mouth of yours or whether you are indeed a true propagandist.

          Baz on July 20, 2012 at 1:34 pm

President Bush should be put in jail for this. He should serve some hard time for these murders. If I let my dog run lose in my neighborhood and my dog kills 7 people, I could certainly go to jail. He is an evil man and needs to be punished.

Miriam on July 19, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    Good luck with it.

    I know what you’re referring to – the felony murder rule.

    If say you’re the getaway driver for armed robbers and they murder people inside the bank – you can be sentenced to death even if you didn’t actually pull the trigger yourself. But its like you helped them to commit murder, which is a felony. So there!

    Gotta wonder with his catch-and-release policy towards Islamic terrorists what legal culpability Bush would have here.

    NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 5:27 pm

      Norman, a comment regarding Baz. My guess is that he is a Muslim operative. Most recently, his taqqiyah has been most impressive (e.g., you refer to condemning jihad on moral grounds, Baz “answers” you by referring to condemnations of “terrorism.”

      I wouldn’t spend too much time with this Amalekite. I did enjoy his list of Fakestinian deaths, though. More! More! I thought.

      Skzion on July 19, 2012 at 10:11 pm

        Yah, I needed a morning wake up laugh, too.

        Italkit on July 20, 2012 at 12:07 am

        Skizon said “Norman, a comment regarding Baz. My guess is that he is a Muslim operative. Most recently, his taqqiyah has been most impressive (e.g., you refer to condemning jihad on moral grounds, Baz “answers” you by referring to condemnations of “terrorism.

        I wouldn’t spend too much time with this Amalekite. I did enjoy his list of Fakestinian deaths, though. More! More! I thought.”

        So you’ve read jihad watch and learned the word Taqqiyah have you? If you really understood the concept then you’d realise its utter nonsense. It’s been rejected by multiple Islamic scholars as being outside of Islam.

        As for the Fakestinian deaths, I suppose I can’t expect more from a people who were responsible for wiping out the indigenous indian population. Is that fake too?

        Baz on July 20, 2012 at 1:36 pm

          Baz, I don’t need Jihad Watch. Canonical texts explain the central role of deceit. You are a Muslim operative who’s blown his cover. Scram, you villain.

          Skzion on July 21, 2012 at 12:02 pm

Great reporting and research, Debbie.

DS_ROCKS! on July 19, 2012 at 4:29 pm

O yeah, great reporting Debbie since the Swedish police are clearly saying that the individual you’ve claimed is the bomber isnt the actual bomber.

“However, Mark Vadasz, head of communications at Swedish intelligence agency SAPO, later said the reports were mistaken.
“I can confirm that it’s not Mehdi Ghezali. I can’t go into any more details of the subject. I can’t comment on that person, but we’re focusing on this case, and we can confirm that it’s not him.” British and US intelligence sources said they were still investigating the reports.”

But hey don’t let facts get in the way of a good story Debbie. It’s never stopped you before.

Baz on July 19, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    Denial is the bureaucratic mode for denying reality. Its embarrassing to the Swedes.

    But you want to believe them over Debbie Schlussel’s reporting here.

    That tells us all we need to know.

    NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    Clearly? Once again, cite your source little guy.

    Worry on July 19, 2012 at 10:30 pm

Please, if it weren’t for Bush, we wouldn’t even have used Gitmo or those now-outed secret holding facilities world-wide. There is just so much usable space at Gitmo, and so many murderer terrorists. Bush was under pressure to release those that were (who they hoped) the least horrific. It’s not a perfect system. If we could hold every single person forever that we’ve caught since 9-11, and not have the wimpy libs and civil “rights” hypocrites cry about it and bringing lawsuits, then we would. This is not Bush’s fault. It’s the fault of Libs/Socialists/Communists/Terrorists who won’t let us either ele ctrocute all these people or hold them forever. At some point, most will get out to commit crimes. We have to allow the military to hold tribunals and build more prisons.

Dina K on July 19, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    C’mon Dina K. Why are you defending GWB? For you to use fact, reason and logic you MUST admit that he was an Islamopanderer with fond ties to the House of Saud and a Liberal when it came to both fiscal and Islamo Terror.

    The Liberals did demonize his falsely BUT the sad and angering truth is that he did NOT help USA stay safe and this site here is on of the few that not only says so but points them out point-by-point.

    It’s one thing to have hated how the Liberals erected a fallacious perpetual “Two Minutes Hate” on GWB but then it’s incumbent on YOU to call him all the crappy stuff he did actually do. I know not many so-called Conservatives talk about it but this site DOES because it’s the truth and also DS’ expertise.

    To disagree says one is using their emotions (like a Liberal) or is ignorant of the facts. We Conservatives MUST be truthful and look at the FACTS otherwise we should just all join the lying, fraudulent Liberals and their terrible cause!

    Skunky on July 19, 2012 at 6:06 pm

      The FACTS are that we don’t have enough prisons and too many liberals, you sanctimonious blowhard. The FACT is that everything that happens under any one President isn’t directly his/her fault. And, it’s a FACT that we wouldn’t have the Patriot Act, Gitmo, or those once- fabulous Int’l holding facilities if it weren’t for GW. AND, there never would even be a need for holding facilities f we had a Lib as President in 01 because we never would have started a war on terror. We have many crazy terrorist murderers behind bars b/c of GW – imagine how many more would actually be out and about if it weren’t for GW’s actions? So to call for his head b/c some of the nut jobs let out repeated their war crimes does not negate all the benefits of GW’s war on terror.

      Dina K on July 22, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    Dina, they could have found at least one space in the Super Max in Butner, NC by releasing Jonathan Pollard.
    That’s not a good argument when they’re locking up farmers who sell raw milk.

    Italkit on July 20, 2012 at 12:10 am

What we need to execute them well in advance and not warehouse them!

I’m sorry but women’s compassion gets the better of them. Some people simply can’t be allowed to live.

NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    That’s right Norman. They may not like it one bit but you’re absolutely correct.

    That is why stupid, hairy feminists got all aggro when Rush Limbaugh quite rightly pointed out that women getting the vote was a downfall of some sort for USA.

    I am female but I agree. As Savage said “The nice people of the world are gonna get us all killed”.

    Skunky on July 19, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    Norman, Skunky and I are WOMEN. Please amend your comment to read “LITTLE GIRLS’ compassion…”

    Italkit on July 20, 2012 at 12:14 am

Amen to this (via israelnn.com):
Op-Ed: What Would Jabotinsky Do After The Bulgaria Attack?
Published: Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:04 AM
The iconic Revisionist leader said: “The blackest of all characteristics is the tradition of the cheapness of Jewish blood, on the shedding of which there is no prohibition and for which you do not pay.” A price must be paid.

July 19th is the anniversary of Zev Jabotinsky’s passing, his yahrzeit.

In the wake of the terror attack on Israelis in Bulgaria that killed seven people and wounded 30 on the 18th anniversary of the dastardly attack on the Jewish community in Buenos Aires that claimed 85 victims, Israel debates what comes next.

On days like this, one wonders what is the future going to bring?

This situation of Jews being hunted and slaughtered like animals is the normal course of events; it has been for the better part of the last four thousand years.

Even today when there is a State of Israel, Jews are hunted. Some solace can be taken in knowing that today there is a Jewish army dedicated to finding the terrorists who perpetrated this attack upon the innocent. Only minutes after this attack occurred, soldiers of Israel boarded a plane to Bulgaria to work on finding the perpetrators.

Ze’ev Jabotinsky was a Revisionist Zionist leader, author, soldier, and founder of the Jewish Self-Defense Organization – and this Zionist prophet Ze’ev Jabotinsky had so many relevant words which guide what needs to be done in situations like this:

“We were not created in order to teach morals and manners to our enemies. Let them learn these things for themselves. We want to hit back at anybody who harms us. Whoever does not repay a blow by a blow is also incapable of repaying a good deed in kind.”
The terrorists will be found – and will pay a harsh price.
“The Latin proverb says “of two evils choose the lesser.” When we are in a position where – through no fault of our own – physical force dominates, only one question can be asked: what is worse? To continue watching Jews being killed and the conviction grows that our lives our cheap, and among the whole world that we are spineless?…the blackest of all characteristics is the tradition of the cheapness of Jewish blood, on the shedding of which there is no prohibition and for which you do not pay.”
A price must be paid.
“The Jew “is everywhere in reach; he can be pointed out at any street corner; and he can be insulted or assaulted with only the minimum of risk, or with none at all. ..one permanent assignment that is entrusted to each of us, old and young, men and women, educated and ignorant, as a group and as individuals; this assignment is the defense of our people’s honor. …”

“It is always aimed at us, and we must respond. We must end this abuse of ourselves, at all costs. And it is very easy. They spit in our faces without fear, ‘in passing’, for no reason – not because our insulters are blessed with courage and want to pick a fight with us, but because this pleasure is so cheap for them: they will spit at us and go on their way, and nothing will happen.

We must accustom them to the thought that from now on this pleasure will come at a hefty cost. A new commandment must enter our hearts: that even where there is only one Jew, the word ‘Zhid’ must not be heard without response.

Wise people will come and try to dissuade us – But it is not our purpose to win in every single incident. Our objective – to create about us the belief that a slur on our national feelings is no longer what it once was, a small diversion free of cost – but will rather, with an absolute certainty and a mathematical precision, result in a sharp and unpleasant confrontation.”

As these quotes from the Jewish Garibaldi, Ze’ev Jabotinsky, show, during two thousand years of exile, the Jewish nation lost the habit of concentrating its willpower on an all important task, lost the habit of acting in unison as a people, lost the ability to defend itself, armed in case of emergency, instead, the Jews became accustomed to weakness.

But today’s Jew understands that revenge is also a Jewish concept, and a price will be paid for those who killed today.

May Hashem avenge their blood – and may the mighty military of Israel help that day come very soon.

Ronn Torossian is a Jewish philanthropist active in numerous non-profit organizations. Today he owns a US PR agency, and he formerly served as National President of Betar, the movement of Ze’ev Jabotinsky.

lee, of the lower case "l" on July 19, 2012 at 6:20 pm

NormanF said: “I can see you’re a shill for Islamic terrorists. Too bad you weren’t one of Ghezali’s victims yesterday. You’re an absolute waste of human skin.And a threat to every Jew on the planet with your embrace of the Islamic barbarians to whom you want extended due process and human compassion.Keep telling yourself that – and I know whom the Israeli living and dead victims of the Islamic terrorist atrocity in Burgas side with.You’re beyond disgusting!”

Let me spell it out for you buddy. I am a shill for no-one. I stand against all forms of terrorism and terrorists. I’ve been equally critical of all sides in many of these conflicts, particularly some of Israel’s neighbours. But what I do understand, which I think you singularly fail to grasp, is that the conflicts we see today all have underlying geo-political reasons that are exacerbated by low levels of literacy and poverty. Many of the crimes you’ve ascribed to Islam are also carried out in Africa by Christian populations. What’s common in all these cases is not religion but the factors I’ve pointed out. If you think Islam as a religion is the primary cause then you clearly haven’t understood the wars we’re seeing. Israel and Iran are both in it for themselves. They want to dominate the region and they’re as bad a each other in that respect. Israel and the Palestinians is about land and water, with religion further inflaming the issue. I could go on.

I haven’t resorted to calling you names and I shall refrain from it and I ask you do the same. Want to debate, fine, but let’s do it as gentleman and not thugs.

Baz on July 19, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    I can go on, you say. No need; no point. You’ve raised yourself just as high as you can go on your own petard.
    An honest broker, are you, you claim? Be that honestly the case than you’d be best advised to do far less talking/writing and start to hit the books.

    lee, of the lower case "l" on July 19, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    Your moral relativism convinces no one on here. You cannot take sides and choose good over evil! Evil has nothing to do with poverty or deprivation. Some of the most depraved Islamic terrorists, like Osama Bin Laden, may his name be blotted out, came from very wealthy families!

    You will never understand that Islam hates the Jews and Israel. After that, it hates the West. That is why there will never be peace. Since you like to downplay the reality of what Islam is – a mass-murdering cult like the Thugees of India, I have the right to call it as I see fit. Its my right of free speech.

    Take your defense of Islamic terrorists to a site that can truly appreciate it!

    NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 6:35 pm

      Norman F said “Your moral relativism convinces no one on here. You cannot take sides and choose good over evil! Evil has nothing to do with poverty or deprivation. Some of the most depraved Islamic terrorists, like Osama Bin Laden, may his name be blotted out, came from very wealthy families!

      You will never understand that Islam hates the Jews and Israel. After that, it hates the West. That is why there will never be peace. Since you like to downplay the reality of what Islam is – a mass-murdering cult like the Thugees of India, I have the right to call it as I see fit. Its my right of free speech.

      Take your defense of Islamic terrorists to a site that can truly appreciate it!”

      See the languge you use typifies you as a one of those daft Americans who sees the world as black and white. Good and evil?? You sound like a child. If you want to see depraved acts I’d worry more about the homegrown killers you seem to breed in the USA. As of yesterday poor innocent people have been killed by another nutjob with a gun in cinema.

      Most of the terrorists of the world are not all from rich families like Osama bin laden. They maybe have some education but rich these people arent and they get their support in conflict zones where the level of education and literacy is very low.

      You have a right to call it as you will, that’s free speech, but don’t expect someone not to challenge it. For too long has the world remained silent while haters like you and DS have polluted the world with your so called “facts”; the distortions of reality that create further bloodshed/

      Baz on July 20, 2012 at 1:42 pm

Mirian said “Baz, that is the reason du jour. What was the reason during the pogroms? Why have the Jewish people been persecuted and hunted for thousands of years?
There is always an excuse. But you like to pin the problem on the innocent victims enjoying a holiday outing.”

Sorry disagree. The jewish people have indeed been persecuted throughout history but not by Muslims. the largest casualties suffered by the Jewish population were in the 2nd world war under a regime that would call itself Christian. Hitler himself may not have been very religious, but many of his people were. I know Debbie and a few others like to link Nazism with Islam, but that is completely false.

My heart goes out to the victims of the bombing yesterday and as a family man I can understand their loss. that’s why I’m more determined to see truth get an airing rather than the misinformation and lies I see propagated by many, particulary the likes of Debbie S.

Baz on July 19, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    Ha-ha….you dumb BAZtard! The regulars here are not fooled by your stupid “peace & loves (but it’s those damn Joooooooos fault” schtick. You’re a sad cartoon of a song we’ve long tired of.

    DS has it going on. Where’s your scary-good website refuting all she stands for?

    But you have nothing but Jew hatred (for no reason) and silly Liberal platitudes. Go bore your unfortunate family with them you raging dope!

    Skunky on July 19, 2012 at 6:40 pm

      Skunky, wasn’t that biz about his heart going out just so special? He’s a Muslim or pro-Muslim operative of some kind.

      Hey Baz, you can assert whatever you want; we however have read key Islamic texts and histories of Muslim perfidy (e.g. Bostom’s work). Evidence matters.

      Skzion on July 19, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    The Mufti praised Hitler. Mein Kampf is a perennial best-seller in the Arab World. Arab Muslims recruited Nazi scientists to build rockets to destroy Israel. There was a Muslim SS Legion.

    Facts are stubborn things. Its getting tiresome to point that you don’t care the associations between Nazism and Islam have been known for decades and are well-documented.

    And its one of the Undeniable Truths Of Life (a little Rush Limbaugh lingo here) that Islam wants to finish the job Hitler began. That’s why Islamic terrorists wage a war of genocide upon the Jewish people and Iran is determined to get the nuclear bomb to wipe out Israel!

    None of this is news to any one who has been following events in the Middle East.

    NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 6:42 pm

      NormanF said “The Mufti praised Hitler. Mein Kampf is a perennial best-seller in the Arab World. Arab Muslims recruited Nazi scientists to build rockets to destroy Israel. There was a Muslim SS Legion.”

      And so that means the whole Islamic world supported hitler?? You are a complete and utter historical revisionist. Indonesia, India, Pakistan, libya and a whole heap of other muslim countries fought alongside the allies in the war against the Nazis. The Mufti you refer to did not speak for the whole of Islam in the same way the pope doesn’t talk for the whole of Christendom. How do you explain that Mr loon?

      All of the Nazi scientists for your information went to work for the USA and Russia after the war and that’s exactly how the USA developed the atom bomb. Which muslim country had any Nazi scientists after the war? Which muslim country had the capability to build missiles after the war? Shall I tell you? ZERO!!!! The American’s and many others stood by while Hitler killed and maimed across Europe so take a look at your own involvement before pointing fingers at others. Most American’s wanted to stay out of the war.

      Norman f said “Facts are stubborn things. Its getting tiresome to point that you don’t care the associations between Nazism and Islam have been known for decades and are well-documented.”

      Yes they are, but you seem to distort them just fine. Show me your sources for evidence that Nazism and Islam have shoulder to shoulder? Islam and Muslim countries were a sideshow in this war. the war was run by Nazi’s who were Christians. Yes that’s right, western Christians.

      Go read a history book and stop relying on Jihad watch and some other loon fringe site. Having been born and lived in Europe we get a more balanced perspective of history than you appear to have.

      Baz on July 20, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    The pogroms in Spain, Morocco, Egypt, Iraq and Iran seem to be out of your sight. Jews were murdered and raped by Muslims. You haven’t heard of the SS Muslim Legion – go and Google it. Debbie knows her stuff solid but since you can’t refute it – you try to make it sound like Jew-hatred was exclusively a Christian obsession. That is false!

    Spare us your fake crocodile tears. You don’t want to know the truth, especially if it contradicts your politically correct tunnel vision about Islam. The truth emerges sooner or later. People like you prefer to bury their heads in the sand than deal with the reality that Islam is a danger to the life of every Jew on the planet!

    NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 7:30 pm

      NormanF said “The pogroms in Spain, Morocco, Egypt, Iraq and Iran seem to be out of your sight. Jews were murdered and raped by Muslims. You haven’t heard of the SS Muslim Legion – go and Google it. Debbie knows her stuff solid but since you can’t refute it – you try to make it sound like Jew-hatred was exclusively a Christian obsession. That is false!”

      Spain is a Christian country and they kicked out the Muslims as well as the Jews. Iraq; more muslims have been killed than jews. there is a shia sunni conflict being fought where the jews are in the cross fire. Jews I remind you were expunged from a huge number of European countries. Yes that’s right, more Jews were ejected from Europe during and after the second world war than all the movements you refer to in Morocco, Egypt and Iraq (Google the numbers yourself). Also the Pomgrams of Russian were in fact some of the most devastating attacks on Jews, second only to Nazi germany. Persecuters of Jews there are, but get your facts straight about who’s doing what.

      NormanF “Spare us your fake crocodile tears. You don’t want to know the truth, especially if it contradicts your politically correct tunnel vision about Islam. The truth emerges sooner or later. People like you prefer to bury their heads in the sand than deal with the reality that Islam is a danger to the life of every Jew on the planet!”"

      I don’t do politically correct so “spare us your” distorted perspective. Your poision will turn people who have little understanding about what you’re jibbering on about. If we want to stick to facts, then let’s stick to this……..tally all the casualities of Jews because of the West+Russia+Europe and then contrast this with the Jewish casualities in Muslim countries. The numbers are stark and talk to the reality you so avoid. I don’t bury my head in the sands. I look around the world at different conflicts and try and understand the root causes without looking for bogeymen. You’re black and white view of human conflict is stunningly ignorant and very dangerous apart from being just plain offensive. All human beings are the same and the same factors drive their behaviours and muslims are no different.

      Baz on July 20, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    That would be believable if we thought you had a heart. Save it for the gullible elsewhere. Won’t work here.

    Italkit on July 20, 2012 at 12:12 am

Lee,

I wish Debbie had done a post on Vladimir Jabotinsky on the honor of his yahrzeit today! He is the greatest Jew who ever lived. His contemporary called him, “the Jewish Garibaldi.”

What is wrote is true and wise today because nothing about the Jewish condition has truly changed.

Jews need make no apologies for having their own country and exercising their rights over all of it. When Jews understand peace with Islam is impossible, they will do what needs to be done!

Above all, never give up and be true to G-d and to what David bequeathed to Israel!

Vladimir Jabotinsky – Zichrono Livracha – may your memory on your yahrzeit today be for all Israel an eternal blessing!

NormanF on July 19, 2012 at 6:27 pm

Test

Skzion on July 19, 2012 at 6:46 pm

Baz, I’m trying to blast you, but this site is behaving weirdly. I guess others can take you to task as easily as I.

Skzion on July 19, 2012 at 6:48 pm

The Bulgarian & Swedish officials are denying certainty this man was the suspect. It is prematurely assumed by those who started the spin. Charges weren’t pressed when he was sent back to Sweden — it’s uncertain at this time where he is, even though he was to be monitored by the Swedes. So… we need to not jump to conclusions on any of the reports that said it was him…

CMW on July 19, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    Save your insane spin for other people CMW. People are dead or horribly injured now because of a suicide bomber. The obfuscation does not work anymore. You just make yourself blameworthy by pursuing it. You are no better than a Charlie Manson defender.

    Worry on July 19, 2012 at 9:32 pm

There is a very simple way to end this crap with the muslim scum, when captured, execute them by pig. Feed them live to pigs, then take the pigsh*t and smear it on mosques.

shitemus on July 19, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    Shitemus said “There is a very simple way to end this crap with the muslim scum, when captured, execute them by pig. Feed them live to pigs, then take the pigsh*t and smear it on mosques.”

    Wow, did you think that one up yourself or did you and your KKK buddies gather round a fire and think that one up?

    “execute them by pig” – now what does that actually mean? You proposing to shoot a pig from a gun at them?

    “Feed them live to pigs” – yeah actually if you’re having to cut someone up and feed them to anything, then i think the pigs would be the least of your worries at that point.

    “then take the pigsh*t and smear it on mosques.” _ I did chuckle when I read about your ingenuity and cunning. It really knows no bounds does it? You are clearly a learned individual… in your dreams.

    Baz on July 20, 2012 at 9:03 pm

      Baz, why are you are knocking your ally the KKK.

      Me, I’d just start destroying mosques, beginning with ehe most important ones. First, though, blow up that stupid meteorite that the Muslims worship.

      The destruction of these artifacts would be both simple and tremendously demoralizing to the enemy, showing allah to be a mere fake.

      Skzion on July 22, 2012 at 2:47 am

News from the UK.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2175859/Pictured-CCTV-suspected-suicide-bomber-killed-people-Bulgaria-bus-bombing-fake-US-driving-licence.html

The UK comments make interesting reading. There is a dearth of understanding of the Iranian situation. The Iranian I’m-a dinner-jacket has his proxy mobs with the same mentality, all cosy and well funded by them, Hamas, Hezbollah and others. Iran’s intention is to be the Rulers of the Persian Gulf and get rid of anyone preventing this from happening. Nasrallah, ‘hiding down the mole hole’ has a megalomaniac attitude because he’s being funded by the Iranians, along with millions of USA aid. With martyrdom being handsomely rewarded financially to the families and the talked about 72 virgins, fools will take up the challenge and extinguish themselves together with their inbred hatred. A double whammy for idiots of this medievel ideology of life in the never-never-land.

Tourisn in these poorer countries will suffer as a result of this repulsive cruelty staining their reputations.

Thoughts and prayers to all those families suffering as a result of this barbaric act.

Eyes Wide Open on July 19, 2012 at 8:09 pm

It’s too bad the greasy loser didn’t die while training for jihad in a work accident. May he burn in hell.

Karen on July 19, 2012 at 8:20 pm

algerian with swedish citizenship that swede pm urged usa to release from gitmo.

AND NOW HUSSEIN OBAMA IS TRYING TO SEND MURRDERER OF AMERICAN SOLDIER IN AFGHAN SEND THE MUSLIM GARBAGE TO CANADA AFTER GIVING THE MUSLIM A DEAL AT GITMO.

I HOPE CANADIAN PM SHEETS IN OBAMA’S FACE AND SAYS TAKE THE MUSLIM SAVAGE BACK HOME TO KENYA WITH YOU JAN 2013

bob on July 19, 2012 at 8:22 pm

Excellent reporting, Debbie.

JeffE on July 20, 2012 at 12:15 am

I don’t know what the draw is with the 72 virgins. One or two experienced women would be much more fun!

RT on July 20, 2012 at 12:34 am

I would like to hear those bleeding hearts that say that the Gitmo prisoners if released, will suddenly beome “model citizens”. I never understand until the day I die, why the US goes to war and then plays paddycake with the terrorists. I am surprised that when Osama bin Laden was killed, Presdient Obama did not have the SEALS try to subdue and arrest him. THis probably would have gotten onr or more of our SEALS either hurt or killed. This is why a former talk show host here in the SF Bay Area said, “if you go to war, go all the way out and do not try to be touchy feely because you are going to get our guys killed in the process!” I agree with the former talks show host, war should never be taken lightly and everything possible should be made to avoid it and all diplomatic options be used until exhausted. However once war is declared, let eveything fly. The problem is that our soldiers ae bing killed because of these silly as RULES OF ENGAGEMENT that tie the hands of our fighting men and women and sadly get them killed.

Mario on July 20, 2012 at 1:30 am

Yes, the Swedes are denying it was this Swedish citizen… However, the Swedes have political reasons for doing so… And, I note, that they aren’t parading him in front of cameras to prove their point in no uncertain terms…

Furthermore, this particular Swede has a history of parading himself in front of the media claiming his innocence… If I were him, by now I’d have convened a media event to show that I’m alive (and thereby disproving the allegation that I was the suicide bomber)… However, his silence is quite deafening!…

Hans on July 20, 2012 at 2:44 am

Once again, socialists have kowtowed to appease Mohamadans by releasing this jihadi back into the wild. Also, once again, innocent civilized people have to pay with their lives from socialists’ refusals to recognize the mortal threat of Islam to the Free World.

Charles Kastriot on July 20, 2012 at 4:56 am

Civilized people of the world, be aware and take precautions! Ramabomb has started! Mehdi Ghezali’s act of jihad will prove to be just the first in a long list of Islamic terrorism for the next few weeks.

Charles Kastriot on July 20, 2012 at 5:21 am

Debbie,

This piece literally is the dumbest thing I think I’ve ever read on the Internet.

First off, if Bush and Cheney had their way, these type of people never, ever would have been released from Gitmo. Actually, they’d have been brought before military war tribunals and locked up or executed.

Liberals like yourself, people who think they constantly know better than everyone else, and countries like Sweden, pushed heavily on the Bush admin to try in US civilian court or release/deport these terrorists.

Don’t you remember all the “this is against what the US stands for” crap from people like Reid, Pelosi and yourself? Bush is just a scape goat for the liberals. Bush and Cheney were painted as keeping these combatants locked up against due process. Now the same people want to know “why were they let out?”. BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC, DEMANDED IT.

More laughable is in the face of Sweden saying you’ve got the wrong guy, you still claim it’s him. So you believe he was held in Gitmo (govt supplied info), believe he was released in 2004 (govt supplied info), but don’t believe a government when they say it’s not him? Cherry pick much?

Then you guess the the ID was provided by or to create the appearance of a Michigan tie due to the high Muslim population there? Please. Again you’re guessing. That ID was something a 12 year old could make on a ten year old Mac. They got the state address wrong per the issuing state, it is missing countless seals and security elements and even identifying information. It was made from graphic and info grabs off the net, period. Had Al Queda or any federal agency (read Iran) provided that ID, it would have been virtually perfect (like Obama’s virtually perfect, 2.5 years in the waiting, “birth certificate”).

Nobody publicly knows who the guy is, who he’s linked to or why the bombing occurred. But one thing anyone with a brain knows: you don’t have anything correct, you cherry picked your info and your “Bush’s Fault” stuff holds no water.

Yah, I have a background in the intelligence field. Yah, I can’t stand people like you and yah, you simply don’t get how far off base you are.

Mark, and no, that’s not my real name

Mark Thompkind on July 20, 2012 at 5:54 am

    “Mark Thompkind”,

    You write:

    “Debbie,

    This piece literally is the dumbest thing I think I’ve ever read on the Internet.

    First off, if Bush and Cheney had their way, these type of people never, ever would have been released from Gitmo. Actually, they’d have been brought before military war tribunals and locked up or executed.

    Liberals like yourself, people who think they constantly know better than everyone else, and countries like Sweden, pushed heavily on the Bush admin to try in US civilian court or release/deport these terrorists.”

    You have Debbie wrong. She is not a liberal and she is not among those who called for Bush and Cheney to release the Muslims terrorists from Gitmo. Click on the “Guantanamo Bay” tag at the bottom of Debbie’s post and read her previous posts on that and you will see that this is so.

    JeffE on July 20, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    You also write to Debbie:

    “More laughable is in the face of Sweden saying you’ve got the wrong guy, you still claim it’s him. So you believe he was held in Gitmo (govt supplied info), believe he was released in 2004 (govt supplied info), but don’t believe a government when they say it’s not him? Cherry pick much?”

    Why do you believe the Swedish denials over Debbie? As has been previously pointed out here, Sweden would of course deny that it is him for reasons that NormanF pointed out on July 19, 2012 at 2:29 pm and on July 19, 2012 at 4:49 pm. Also, as Debbie pointed out on Twitter last night, if it wasn’t him, then he should still be alive somewhere and someone should spot his live body.

    JeffE on July 20, 2012 at 8:33 pm

Thank you Hans for breaking down the actual impact of what happened to a more human level. I work in a medical lab. The other day, I saw for the first time a severed human hand. I thought I would look at it and be disgusted. I was not. I wanted to sit down and squall like a baby. That hand belonged to a person. If she were able to go back to her job, she would have months and months of therapy. Debbie, I agree with you. We need people in charge that are going to man up and fight this war like killers. When I see stuff like this, it makes me wonder about the allegience of our elected officials. They have basically emasculated our military by allowing the muslim religion to dictate much of their actions overseas.

Kristy on July 20, 2012 at 6:05 am

It’s not rocket science: If you release your POWs while you are still at war with the enemy, they will continue to fight for the enemy. All Jihadist POWs should be held until every single Jihadist organization and their supporting nations unconditionally surrender. What’s that? These guys might die in prison of old age before that happens? Oh, my, too bad.

Phil on July 20, 2012 at 9:16 am

We have a problem. Obviously this boy(not a real man) should have never been free. But the US cant afford to run everything for the world. What they need to do is get the UN to step up and find a way to deliver justice without the US having to deny human rights to make the right choice.

colt13 on July 20, 2012 at 9:24 am

The Swedes are just as responsible as Bush. They cried and whined and got him released.

Dtom on July 20, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    But are you stupid? It wasn’t this guy.. You are all misinformed and spreading lies..

    Fair on July 22, 2012 at 5:57 am

It’s quite obvious that the welfare benefits paid to these asylum seekers of the Islamic faith are working against the taxpayers of these countries. Says something about the allegiances and moral codes of the elected politicians. What they don’t realise is that once the Joos have been disposed of, they’re next. Christmas shoppers in Sweden –
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9416254/Immigrant-in-Britain-helped-plot-attack-on-Christmas-shoppers.html

Eyes Wide Open on July 20, 2012 at 9:16 pm

But for heavens sake. IT WASNT HIM!!!

Fair? on July 21, 2012 at 5:59 am

baz, you take the muslim scum cowardly murderers and feed them while alive to live pigs, pigs are carnivors and will eat single cell humans. Take the pig’s shit, in other words the dead scum remains, and send it to their mosque

shitemus on July 21, 2012 at 10:20 pm

Poor Baz! He tries all the usual Muslim tricks, but nobody is impressed.

Ultimately, our goal must be — as I’ve said several times before — to free the world from Islam. It is possible to deal with most groups of people rationally given capitalism. Muslims, though, just as Jefferson pointed out, are an exception.

Skzion on July 22, 2012 at 1:30 am

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