August 16, 2012, - 10:52 am

Jasim Ramadon: 5 Iraqi Muslim Immigrants Charged in Brutal Gang Rape – My Chilling Connection to the Story

By Debbie Schlussel

**** SCROLL DOWN FOR UPDATES #1 & #2 ****

Late last night, it was as if I saw a ghost. I came across a breaking news story about an Iraqi Muslim immigrant I had briefly helped and who is now one of five Iraqi Muslim immigrant suspects in a brutal gang rape of a 53-year-old woman in Colorado. More info here. I hope the allegations of his involvement are just that. One report says, “Two of the suspects were arrested for sexual assault and accessory to a crime, while the other three were arrested for just accessory.” The seasoned police detective investigating the case says it is one of the most violent rapes he’s ever seen, with blood on the walls and massive internal injuries to the victim, as a result of blunt force. The story sends chills up and down my spine.

Jasim Mohammed Hassin Ramadon Now . . .

Jasim Ramadon Then – 8 Years Ago on Oprah . . .

Eight years ago, I was very touched when I read a front-page Wall Street Journal story about a brave Iraqi boy who turned in his own Islamic terrorist father to U.S. troops in Iraq. At age 12 or 13, he showed tremendous courage and helped save American soldiers’ lives, begging them to arrest him. When they did, he turned in not only his own father, but 40 Islamic terrorists and their plots to kill American men. He also refused his father’s demand that he kill Americans. Because of his actions, his mother–who urged him to help the American troops–was murdered by terrorists. The story said that the soldiers in his unit promised him they would protect him, even after they were sent home from Iraq. They promised to bring him to the United States to shield him from a certain death sentence. But they needed help to do it. I contacted the soldier who headed the unit and offered my pro bono legal services to the extent I could offer them (as I am not licensed to practice law in Colorado and couldn’t do any work there). Although I’ve never written about it at length here, the fact that I did some legal work was public, well-known by many third parties, and not confidential or privileged. And the soldiers involved encouraged me to speak with then-FOX News reporter Heather Nauert for a report she did on the boy.

UPDATE #1: WATCH THIS! (report about Jasim Ramadon’s heroism in Iraq–U.S. soldiers interviewed):


When he arrived in the U.S., I attended a weekend party in Colorado Springs with the Fort Carson-based U.S. Army unit that made the promise to this boy, and all of the soldiers and attendees were aware of my role and thanked me. I also spent considerable time trying to find a family for him in Detroit’s Chaldean community (his mother was supposed to have been Chaldean–Iraqi Christian), but my efforts at that were unsuccessful. The boy, himself, whom soldiers called “Steve-O” (after the stunt guy from “Jackass”) and who was known to me as Jasim Hussin, was not my client. He was 14 when I met him and could barely speak any English. The story was covered in People, and when I was at the party, Oprah’s producers were there shooting footage for a segment that was taped in Chicago for her daily talk show the following Monday. A book, “Soldier’s Promise,” was written by the unit’s commanding officer, with the possibility of a movie based on it. All of the soldiers in the unit felt a tremendous commitment to repay the uncommon bravery of this young boy, as they felt he saved their lives.

Time flies, and now, just eight years later, this boy–who now goes by the names “Jasim Mohammed Hassin Ramadon” and “Jay Hendrex”–is married with a child, himself. He is 22 and, as with the four other suspects charged with the crime, he is a legal permanent resident facing deportation if he is convicted. Whoever did this should do a long stretch in prison and be deported. You know my views on bringing Muslim immigrants to America for no good reason. This is the expected result when we take people out of the world’s jihadist killing fields and insert them onto American soil and expect them to have our values. Did the brave Iraqi hero participate? His wife says no–that the other four are violent, but that’s a typical wife’s defense of her husband, especially when they have a young child to raise. It is my understanding from media reports I read last night, that a year after he got here, the unit that brought this boy to America was sent back to Iraq for a year, and the boy found himself in the foster care system. Did that have any effect on the boy? Maybe, but foster care in America is heaven compared to daily life in Iraq. Regardless, it is not an excuse for a hideous violent rape of a 50-year-old woman. And if this guy did this, he should have the book thrown at him and get sent back home to Iraq. Remember, all five of the suspects, before the rape charges, would have qualified under Barack Obama’s ridiculous DREAM Act amnesty which began yesterday. Are they “as American as you and I, except on paper,” as Obama claimed when he announced the program? No way. Not even close. They are probably violent gang rapists. And they nearly murdered this woman, according to news reports.

You know my views on the Islamic and Arabic cultures. But while brutality and inhumane treatment of women is inherent in that community, I thought this boy was different. At such a young age, he had something special–something rare and uncommon–in him because he risked his own life and everything he knew to save American boys. It was truly heroic, and that is why I went out of my way to contribute my help and a great deal of my time, and I was proud of my very small role. And so it is hard for me to believe that he actually committed the brutal rape. And I hope the allegations about him are false–that it is just the other four Iraqi Muslims who committed this horrible crime, after they served the woman a drink that was apparently laced with some sort of date rape drug. Am I being naive? Did he do this crime or is it guilt by association? It is possible that he is one of those charged as an accessory and that the connection to that is tenuous. We’ll see. What do you think?

The Other Rape Suspects . . .



Sarmad Fadhi Mohammed, Mustafa Sataar Al-Feraji, Ali Mohammed Hasan Al-Juboori & Yasir Jabbar Jasim

More:

Colorado Springs arrested five Iraqi men Tuesday in connection with what police are calling a “rare” and “horrific” sexual assault.

Colorado Springs Lt. Howard Black told FOX21 Colorado Springs that the woman police believe the men sexually assaulted at the Wildridge Apartments suffered from injuries that could have been life-threatening.

“I have been a police officer for a lot of years,” Black said. “When I look at the injuries, this is one of the more severe sexual assault cases I have been a part of and investigated.”

Sarmad Fadhi Mohammed and Jasim Mohammed Hasin Ramadon were arrested for the actual sexual assault Tuesday. Mustafa Sataar Al Feraji, Ali Mohammed Hasan Al Juboori and Yasir Jabbar Jasim were arrested as accessories to sexual assault.

All five men are are from Iraq and living in the U.S. legally as permanent residents. All five are in their 20s. If convicted, there is a possibility they could be deported.

Police said the sexual assault occurred on July 21, and started when an elderly woman who works nights responded to two groups of men appearing to be on the brink of a fight at around 1:30 a.m. The woman, who was checking her mail at the time, was able to successfully defuse the fight. Afterwards, one of the men involved in the altercation invited her back to his apartment.

At the apartment, the woman drank “what she believed to be lemonade” with four men in their 20s, according to the report. She cannot recall anything after that.

According to police, doctors at Memorial Hospital in Colorado Springs, where the woman was later admitted, said she suffered from internal injuries that appeared to be caused by blunt force trauma. When police arrived on scene of the apartment, they found blood splattered on the walls.

According to the Colorado Springs Gazette, Ramadon, one of the men accused of the sexual assault, was featured in “A Soldier’s Promise,” a 2009 combat memoir penned by Army First Sgt. Daniel Hendrex about the time he spent deployed in the Iraqi town of Husaybah.

Hendrex described helping Ramadon in his effort to immigrate to the U.S. in exchange for vital information the youngster — 14 at the time — provided Hendrex’s unit about local insurgents.

My heart goes out to the woman who is the victim of this horrible crime and her family. I hope she has a complete and speedy recovery. Say a prayer for her.

**** UPDATE #2: It doesn’t look good. One Colorado TV news report >says Jasim Ramadon is the suspected rapist:

Jasim Ramadon is the man investigators believe physically assaulted and abused the 53-year-old woman on Saturday, July 21st at the Wildridge apartments in the 2500 block of Gold Rush Drive. Sarmad Mohammed allegedly exposed himself to her.

The other three, Ali Al Juboori, Yasir Jasim and Mustafa Sataar are accused of covering up the crimes involving their friends. It slowed down the investigation for nearly a month until their August 13th arrests.

The victim says it started that Saturday night after she broke up a fight between two groups of men outside her apartment complex. She had just come home after practicing for a singing competition. The woman then remembers going into an apartment with four men in their 20s. They complained to her about being called terrorists. She was given a cup of what she was believed was lemonade and doesn’t remember what happened next. After the alleged attack, Jasim Ramadon left with the woman. He came back to the apartment without her allegedly saying, “Man she’s going to die and there was blood everywhere.” The woman called Springs Police the next day.

Officers say there was blood soaked clothes and shoes inside her apartment.

Disgusting and tragic.

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When one is close to an emotional story like this it would be hard for you to feel anything but ambivalence.

Since I am not I see from the column that he was NOT Mooooslim and with his name-change it seems he is now. That’s all I need to know (along with the facts as they unfold).

Yet another example of that Mooooslim “holiness” and their abundance of respect they have for women. To the world they want ‘em covered up and chaste but in real life they like rape, ruffies and gang rape most of all. No wonder they love porno so much.

I have learned a lot about the truth of Islam here and this story just makes it more real and that you know your stuff and report the truth. Facts are stubborn things.

Skunky on August 16, 2012 at 11:16 am

    Skunky, as you know from POTUS, he’s a Muslim and has a Muslim name because his father was one. Doesn’t matter if his mother was a Chaldean.

    Italkit on August 16, 2012 at 11:21 am

      You’re correct Italkit. Well, now since Mohammed is in his name and he was hanging with a group of Mooooooslims I reckon he could be a true Mooooslim after all. We’ll see. Thanks for the clarity!

      Skunky on August 16, 2012 at 11:31 am

        Skunky-

        I think it is in very poor taste to make fun of people because of their names. As long as it’s no skin off my nose (as, for example, a mandatory title of respect based on your station at birth might be), I will call people what they want to be called.

        So call ‘em “Muslims” – they even seem oh-so-upset at being called “Moslems”. There is plenty about which to be legitimately critical without being unnecessarily derogatory in a puerile manner.

        How would you like it if I called you “Skanky”?

        Larry S. on August 16, 2012 at 12:45 pm

          Oh Larry, you’re not my Daddy so go get stuffed.

          I love to call ‘em Moooooooslims. No one will ever stop me.

          I give NO respect for the death-cult of Islam. Especially how they view Jews. Jealousy in Moooooooslims is so sad, too bad.

          Who cares what you call me. “Skunky” is not my Christian name so if you think I’m gonna get all upset with what you call me you don’t know me very well. Moooooooslim apologist.

          Skunky on August 16, 2012 at 4:30 pm

          Larry,

          Playing the Offense Card? We know you’re a muzzie too, go back to your strip club already.

          As Goes... on August 16, 2012 at 6:12 pm

          Hey Larry S,

          “unnecessarily derogatory in a puerile manner”

          Take your phony ‘offense’ and FUCK OFF

          As goes... on August 16, 2012 at 9:39 pm

      Another thing Islam ripped-off from Judaism. The biblical rule of descent was patrilineal.

      The rabbis changed it later to a matrilineal one and the Karaites retained the old rule. Which has meant in Judaism that Jews who hate their own religion get automatic membership in the tribe and people with a Jewish father have to be excluded from it because they must convert!

      Absurd situation but Islam does far more absurd things. And with a barbaric twist to them.

      NormanF on August 16, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    I learned this from Lee Rodgers. The only SAFE thing to do is kill them all and let God sort it out.

    Leopards do not change their spots. It is rather simple, really…

    As Goes... on August 16, 2012 at 2:52 pm

      Offer them all Up to GOD , the Lord will know his own it was said.

      Kevin Kehoe on August 17, 2012 at 9:10 pm

Debbie, I am sorry you were hit with this. It just seems that these Arab men are not able to cross the cultural divide even after years in America. Did you read recently the case of Abdulrahamim Al Zeitouni? He was a real hero during Katrina and was falsely imprisoned with no way to contact his wife. I read the book about him within the last year and he sounded very integrated and like a good guy, although I seem to remember a couple of warning bells but not serious. Well now, he’s divorced and his American wife really fought for his release from a Louisiana prison, and he’s charged with attempting to murder her! The story was in the NY Daily news a couple of days ago.
They just can’t let let go of the revenge. And it plays out as terrorism or violence towards weaker, usually women, victims.

Italkit on August 16, 2012 at 11:19 am

    Western men can and do rape women – but their crimes always seem to have an out of the ordinary feeling to the for reasons I will explain – why is why Muslim male crimes on women are truly blood-chilling.

    There is seldom the kind of sadistic brutality to their sex crimes that we find in the Muslim Arab World.

    Its clear the culture matters a great deal. There is no civilization in the Muslim World and savage crimes are an every day occurrence there, they can’t be helped like the weather. Its just something they do.

    In the Western World that is exceptional. Coming from a Western European background, I am the decent and civilized man. So yeah not having a propensity to commit crimes has a great deal to do with how I was brought up but personal behavior also has a lot to do with the person I am today.

    Of course, we’ll hear the Left excuse these animals raped the poor woman cuz hey, society made them to do it, they were insulted and so forth. They will never blame it on Islam. Again, when will we Americans ever learn?

    NormanF on August 16, 2012 at 2:10 pm

      NormsnF,

      Rape is straight out of the TERRORIST HANDBOOK.

      WESTERN CIVILIZATION HAS NO SUCH THING

      As goes... on August 16, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    I knew a muzzie. His favorite statement is HE’S GONNA PAY.

    Anytime he felt slighted he would say “he’s gonna pay.”. It is funny, everyone did pay AND HE HAD NO REGARD FOR WHAT IT COST TO EVEN SAID SCORE.

    HE MADE PEOPLE PAY…

    As goes... on August 16, 2012 at 9:29 pm

Why did a fifty year old woman agree to go to their apartment? That one is easy, a sexually deprived, aged, nut job who should have minded her own business. That would be my guess. Doesn’t mean she deserved gang rape.

You did an admirable thing by helping the kid back then. Who knows for sure how people will turn out when they get older? You’re not a psychic are you?

Yep, I would conclude he was an active participant in the rape just as I would conclude he chose these type of “friends” to hang out with. Deportation will protect any future American women he might target.

OT

DS, have you been banned from Fox News? That should have been YOU on Hannity last night talking about the ICE story that YOU broke. Instead, Michelle (I-love-white-men) Malkin was on there as if she broke the story. Pissed me off I must say.

lookaroundu on August 16, 2012 at 11:35 am

    lookaroundu,

    We dont blame the victim here. Go somewhere else peddling your dribble.

    As Goes... on August 16, 2012 at 6:16 pm

Skunky on August 16, 2012 at 11:16 am

Don’t be so sheepish and reserved. Don’t hold back, tell us what you REALLY think. (grin)

The sad part of the story is that Debbie has part of her heart invested in this story in some way.

With that said, of course, if he really is the guy Debbie felt concern about 8 years ago, and if he DID take part in this assault, it is just for him to be punished and separated from society.

If the woman were raped by four or more Muslim men in some Muslim, Shariah Law nations, it is likely that the woman-victim would be charged with fornication, arrested, put in jail, tried in a Sharia-Islamic court, found guilty of fornication, and sentenced to be buried into the ground up to her neck and stoned to death, or tied to some structure and whipped to death, while the Muslim men wo raped and tortured her don’t get charged with anything, but walk away free as a bird.

W: It’s definitely the same guy. I recognized him from the mugshot immediately. DS

William on August 16, 2012 at 11:42 am

    Willam,

    “If the woman were raped by four or more Muslim men in some Muslim, Shariah Law nations, it is likely that the woman-victim would be charged with fornication, arrested, put in jail, tried in a Sharia-Islamic court, found guilty of fornication, and sentenced to be buried into the ground up to her neck and stoned to death, or tied to some structure and whipped to death, while the Muslim men wo raped and tortured her don’t get charged with anything, but walk away free as a bird.”

    IT IS FAR MORE LIKELY SHE WOULD HAVE TO HIDE THE EVENT, MARRY ALL FOUR OF HER RAPISTS, OR BE DRAGGED BURIED AND STONED.

    WHAT COURT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? OF COURSE THE MALES WOULD BE HIGHLY DECORATED FOR THEIR COURAGE OR SOMETHING…

    As goes... on August 16, 2012 at 9:50 pm

PS

Please don’t help any more Muslims come here. Obama doesn’t need any help with that task. He’s doin’ fine.

L: I wasn’t at all involved with helping him come here. DS

lookaroundu on August 16, 2012 at 11:47 am

    lookaroundu,

    Are you serious? Really? Gads, Debbie would never involve herself in bringing in natural born killers.

    As Goes... on August 16, 2012 at 2:56 pm

No more Iraqis, Somalis or Afghans in the US please and period.

D: Completely agree! DS

daisy on August 16, 2012 at 11:51 am

How did the other 4 perps get into the country?

A: As I’ve noted on this site over the years since we went to war in Iraq, we are letting in and giving asylum to tens of thousands of Iraqi Muslims for no legit reason. That includes terrorists who were involved in blowing up our soldiers and Marines over there. And we do little checking into who they are. DS

adam on August 16, 2012 at 11:55 am

    As Debbie has noted in the past, DHS spends approximately two minutes on each immigrant applicant’s request to be allowed to stay in America and that does NOT include checking for previous criminal records in the home country. And Islamic terrorists often have no record at all! So we really don’t know anything about their character and ICE, the home agency charged with enforcing US immigration laws is as much in the dark as the rest of us.

    And under the Obama-Mitt Happens DREAM Act Amnesty, an already FUBAR situation would become an absolute nightmare. American leaders don’t prioritize keeping the rest of us safe, that much we do know.

    NormanF on August 16, 2012 at 1:30 pm

Pretty damning stuff. Lay with dogs, you will get fleas(suspect that is). The woman appears to be a pretty naive person that paid for it to the extreme. Sad. Now to wait for all the Cair bears to come out in defense of this guy after DNA comes down, possibly, against him. Maybe they’ll make this detective another Mark Furhman. Nothing would surprise me. Frankly, I’d have watched at a distance until the fight was over, maybe called the local PD. Debbie, you did what you thought was the right thing to do at the time. Hell the guy turned in his own dad and 40 other scum bags.

samurai on August 16, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    Samurai,

    Are you REALLY BLAMING THE VICTIM?

    I have more predictions. All 4 participated, drew straws and the short straw is elected to take the fall. They jointly conspired and it escalated. Forced oral copulation by all 4; sodomy by all 4; forced rape by all 4; then multiple object rape in multiple orifices by all 4. There may be maiming to breasts and other body parts perhaps clitorectomy attempts… All involved.

    This will explain ex sanguination to near death. We will learn that she bled out 60% or more… The press is protecting the muzzies.

    As goes... on August 16, 2012 at 10:07 pm

      @ As goes, no I’m not blaming the victim. Just pointing out how stupid she was. Laying with dogs was in reference to the guy Debbie helped out years ago. IF he wasn’t in on the disgusting act, he’s hanging around with scum bags so he could get some time over this. Looks bad though. She was stupid to go off with 5 total strangers. If you disagree with that….

      samurai on August 16, 2012 at 11:41 pm

        Sam,

        Calling her stupid is blaming her.

        Sheesh.

        As Goes... on August 17, 2012 at 3:54 pm

I feel for you Debbie.

Recently, one of the boys from my troop who was a borderline problem, with a bad family history, who I helped with his Eagle Project was picked up for possession and selling pot. I was devastated.

I can imagine in comparison your heart breaking over this guy you helped being a rape suspect.

It does seem queer that a 50 year old woman would go into a stranger’s house, maybe she knew him though, who was in a gang fight, at 1:30 in the morning. She put herself in jeopardy going into the perp’s house and drinking the perp’s lemonade. I am sorry for her, but, this is really stupid behavior on her part. But it does not take away her rape or its extra brutality.

Panhandle on August 16, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    Maybe she could have exercised better judgment in going to a strange man’s home in the wee hours of morning but nothing on this earth justifies what was done to her! Her drink was probably spiked by a “date rape” drug – let’s hear it for how drug abuse doesn’t exist in the Muslim World – and the rest was as horrific as you can imagine after she passed out.

    You’re right under Sharia law they would get off and the woman would pay the price but this IS America. And you know, we do have the death penalty here in Colorado and this would be an enhanced crime if she dies, it would become a first degree murder charge and I hope get send to death row in this state. All that I am sure of is they must never see daylight again.

    NormanF on August 16, 2012 at 1:22 pm

      NormanF

      You’re not blaming the victim, are you. When you accuse her of poor judgment?

      STOP

      As goes... on August 16, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    Panhandle,

    No one likes being TAKEN FOR A SUCKER.

    But, we aren’t blaming the victim here. It is the savages who caused the injuries.

    As Goes... on August 16, 2012 at 6:20 pm

Good story DS, and you know what, I hope this kid that you helped 8 years to live a better and productive life here in the US is NOT involved in this heinous crime of sexually assaulting that 50 year old woman.

As you said Debbie, if the dude whom you helped out is guilty of doing this crap to that lady then he should have the book thrown at him and sent back to his native land of Iraq. Or could it that he was “framed” and those other guys were lying and making up stories about him? You never know, I just hope that this dude wasn’t one of the five lunatics who raped that woman in Colorado?!?!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on August 16, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    Sean,

    Framed? BAHAHAHA

    As goes... on August 16, 2012 at 10:13 pm

Hopefully it is not the same person. You are probably more careful about selecting clients than 99% of other attorneys, but nothing is completely foolproof. If he is the same person, you had no way of knowing what would happen.

LA: It’s definitely the same guy. And, yes, I had no way of knowing. DS

Little Al on August 16, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Any smart attorney knows your worst enemy is your own client.

    I used to pretend to put them on hold, then I’d listen to what s/he was saying to those around him.

    I nearly disqualified every single client using this technique.

    As Goes... on August 16, 2012 at 6:23 pm

In his culture, it is A-OK to gang rape a “whore” who dresses inappropriately and therefore “deserves it”. Young hormones being what they are, combined with a culture/religion that actively encourages that kind of behavior toward vulnerable women, it doesn’t surprise me that he would do what is alleged.

I do think we should try to accommodate on our shores Iraqis who, at risk to their own lives, provide valuable assistance to our soldiers. Not all good deeds in this world will be repaid in a manner that the granter might wish.

Larry S. on August 16, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Larry S,

    You’re full of bull.

    As Goes... on August 16, 2012 at 6:25 pm

Its heart-breaking when the exceptions turn out to be like the rest of them.

They are barbarians and the truly decent Muslim Arab would be a very rare sight.

They have lived years in this country, grew up in American society and you hear them do something like this! We can bring them out of Greater Islamic Barbaria but we can never eliminate the savage beast lurking inside them.

Its too late to help a woman who may very well die as a result of a brutal crime and if she does, they should all get the death penalty and be executed.

Above all, we must stop placing America’s lives into the hands of Muslim immigrants. Importing more of them here will result in more horrific tragedies like this one – all of them avoidable.

This_Is_Islam! There is no getting around the fact savages like them constitute a permanent danger to every one of us and they should for all of our sakes, be kept as far away from us as possible.

And in regards to this crime, an innocent American life was destroying and living in a small town, such things don’t touch me here. But I know where not to go and whom to never be friend. The gulf between civilized people and Muslims is a river that can never be closed and you can never be quite what they will do. A woman paid for her trust in them with her modesty brutally violated and her life destroyed.

Finally, let’s hear it again from Jeff Jacoby and the rest of them just how “modest” in sexual behavior Muslims are. Uh huh.
This sickening news was all too predictable to me and now the rest of us must live with the consequences of our toleration of the Religion Of Peace in our country.

NormanF on August 16, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    Life is short. This is typical moooooooslem behavior. Simple…

    As goes... on August 16, 2012 at 10:17 pm

Whether he did it or was just an accessory is irrelevant. The bottom-line is he was there and didnt try to stop it. And in a separate issue, what was he doing at a woman’s apartment when he has a wife and kid at home? Addressing the connection – it sucks to be duped (if that ends up being the case) but it happens to the best of us every now and then. While I don’t know the details of his original story, I’ll offer this perspective – could it be possible that the kid’s true goal was to get his dad arrested and helping the troops was an ancillary effect? Adults in Iraq would bring kids (3+ up)to the front gates at JBB almost daily, w/ terrible burn marks that came from their fathers throwing boiling water on defenseless kids as a punishment, seeking US military medical treatment. If I were an Iraqi kid and my dad treated me like that, I would try to get him arrested. Anyway, his actions today have nothing to do w/ you helping him 8 years ago. You did the right thing back then.

“Patriotism is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime.”

jdiz on August 16, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    jdiz,

    He didn’t participate. He is the primary. And, his wife? I wouldn’t have bothered to speak with her. Neighbors? Oh, they will they were such nice, quiet people I can’t believe they did this…. just more bull

    As Goes... on August 16, 2012 at 6:27 pm

Debbie is NOT to blame. I would be the first person on earth to tell her that and this guy – well you know the Bible says we are all responsible for our behavior. G-d judges us not according to the deeds of our ancestors but according to our own deeds.

If he did commit this horrible crime and its proven in court, he should never walk the streets of this country again. I want the harshest possible punishment, including the death penalty if the victim dies. We must have zero tolerance for acts of Islamic terrorism perpetrated in America.

Again, my thoughts and prayers go out to the victim and her family. May G-d bless them and watch over them.

NormanF on August 16, 2012 at 1:52 pm

““Jasim Hussin” who now goes by the names “Jasim Mohammed Hassin Ramadon”.”

After reading this one sentence, I did not have to read any further. How ironic. He fought the enemy in Iraq, then joined them in the U.S.

Irving on August 16, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    Irving,

    This is chess. I would not put it past him to have played a move that would allow him greater access to murdering Americans even if he threw a few under his own bus.

    As Goes... on August 16, 2012 at 2:58 pm

All four animals should be flogged by police, on TV, and shown on Al-Jezerra.

Truth on August 16, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    Truth,

    You’re soft on crime. This should be a capital offense or attempted murder.

    This is way beyond a sex crime. This is possibly murder, but he failed in his goal. He wanted to kill her. So simple, really.

    And, they will do it again and again. Murder by rape is a muzzie past time…

    As Goes... on August 16, 2012 at 6:31 pm

How does a kid revert to the behavior of his old life after living here several years and being a married man with a family?

What difference a decade makes – as in nothing at all. This is the kind of thing we expect over there but not in this country. That’s what makes this story so truly shocking to hear. I wasn’t expecting to read about it this morning.

NormanF on August 16, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    Norman F

    They will change just as soon as Pigs fly out my ass and lay golden eggs.

    Really, they will…

    As Goes... on August 16, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    Revert? The real person came out… It was always there

    As goes... on August 16, 2012 at 10:22 pm

You can take the boy out of the Muslim culture, but you can’t take the Muslim culture out of the boy. A father by 21? Did he grow up in an Islamic household? Who raised him? Who did he hang out with?

Jonathan E. Grant on August 16, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    Jon,

    More importantly, WHO CARES?

    As Goes... on August 17, 2012 at 4:00 pm

I agree with Debbie and sincerly hope he really is innocen,t and simply caught up in this sick event. Maybe these guys are simply trying to shed the blame, well we won’t know until the investigation is over. The truth will always out (itself) as we say.

My thoughts and sympathies are with the woman and her family/friends. As for entering the apartment with an unknown man so late, well we are all guilty of being too trusting or downright oblivious sometimes. Maybe she thought she was helping them, sounds like a nice lady to me, trying to break up the fight and everything.

RobertEngland on August 16, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    RobertEngland,

    We don’t blame victims here. Stop!

    I think this will make her a conservative if she survives. Otherwise, it is another hapless liberal believing the media.

    That’s sad!

    As Goes... on August 16, 2012 at 6:35 pm

Horrific story and great article, Debbie.

DS_ROCKS! on August 16, 2012 at 3:56 pm

His mom may have been Chaldean Christian, but if his dad was Muslim, so was he. And I agree w/ the above posters – do what you want for them, but we have enough Muslims as it is. Don’t need more, no matter what the reason.

But no, I don’t blame Debbie for bringing him in, given what he did for US troops in Iraq. I do think the lack of parents – and the fact that his father was a thug to begin w/ – ensured that he never ended up w/ good values.

Infidel on August 16, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    Infidel,

    Let me introduce you to a truth: THERE ARE SUCH THINGS AS “BAD SEEDS”.

    Mooooooooooooooooslems are BAD SEEDS. SO SIMPLE, REALLY

    As Goes... on August 16, 2012 at 6:37 pm

All kafir women are halal for Muslim men. What that means is that any non-Muslim women – child, old woman, married, unmarried can be raped by a Muslim man with no penalty under Islam law.

No infidel woman is safe with a Muslim male.

Don’t risk it, sisters. If you have no choice but to have dealings with Muslim men, arm yourself or make sure you have an armed escort.

Tanstaafl on August 16, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    Thank You Tanstaafl. That is all women (or any good, self-respecting human) needs to know about perverted and illegitimate Islam (a death cult).

    Dhimmis like pukey Larry S. will be re-incarnated as toilet paper or as halal quarter for smelly and hairy disgusting Mooooooslim men.

    Skunky on August 16, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    Yup.

    Think of what would have happened to Lara Logan had no one come to her rescue.

    When it comes to unrestrained sexual excess, Muslim males are the planet’s champs.

    No woman is ever safe around them. Their animal nature is far more powerful than any civilized veneer they have and its only a veneer.

    There is a reason its Greater Islamic Barbaria and we should never forget it!

    NormanF on August 16, 2012 at 6:33 pm

      Where did the Lara Logan go?

      Do you think she has recovered from her hemorrhaging?

      This had to involved foreign objects if it was just one guy, but I wouldnt be surprised if we had multiple DNA.

      We can reasonably expect these reports to increase the mooooooslem population continues to increase :(

      As Goes... on August 16, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    Tanstaafl

    While we are not blaming the victim, no woman should ever be alone with a man.

    Safety first…

    As Goes... on August 16, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    Tanstaafl

    Neither buy nor sell to a mooooooooslem. And have nothing to do w them.

    As goes... on August 16, 2012 at 10:30 pm

I predict that slowly facts will leak out and we will learn that this involved broom handles, coke bottles, and other objects.

We are being led by PC spin… She may not survive. Don’t be surprised if he bit off her nipples and there is always forced oral copulation and sodomy with foreign objects. I expect she will wear a bag due to rectal destruction.

Muzzies all over the country will welcome him as a HERO…

As Goes... on August 16, 2012 at 6:47 pm

“She was given a cup of what she was believed was lemonade and doesn’t remember what happened next.”

Which means she’s not a good witness to the crime. Could be, like others mentioned, that he’s being framed someway. I really hope he’s innocent but a gut feeling says no.
As ‘Irving on August 16, 2012 at 2:06 pm’ stated, all it took was the name change for me.

I think Debbie knows what Abraham felt like when he saved Lot from G-D’s wrath at Sodom an Gomorrah. Not even one good man?

theShadow on August 16, 2012 at 8:11 pm

debbie, in all your wonderings of whether this or that affected him growing up maybe you forget one thing, when he got arrested and turned in his father and 40 terrorists he also caused the death of his own mother. ask yourself how THAT probably affected him. all I can say is… you can take the animal out of the jungle but you can’t take the jungle out of the animal.

mike on August 16, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    mike

    Did you major in sociology or something? What other excuses will the others use?

    Who cares?

    As Goes... on August 17, 2012 at 4:04 pm

Thanks a lot Debbie. There was no sin here. It was all authorized by the Koran and according to the example of the prophet. Until they renounce Islam, publicly and convincingly, and thoroughly demonstrate a spirit of love and truth they can’t be trusted.

Matthew Wells on August 17, 2012 at 12:41 am

all of this started in 1965 when teddy kennedy got hie immergration reform passed which changed who came into the country.it was an affirmative action immergration bill to make up for not bring in non europeans.now we let in 10 non europeans for every european and now we are being over run buy turd world bums who murder more americans than have died on the war on terror.i think we must blam the media for portraying muzzie as human which they are not.sooner or later we will have to kill them or they will kill us.

BRUCE on August 17, 2012 at 7:13 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCfbYkXtHuA&feature=plcp
this lady did some reserch into the koran shocking i did not know this was going on Part 1 of 4

blkthorn on August 18, 2012 at 9:56 am

@DS – No good deed ever went unpunished . . . .

Rochelle on August 18, 2012 at 10:20 am

Debbie,

I am Iraqi blogger, pls. put aside your anti-Iraq emotions, and read me to the end. What do expect of a boy who turns his own father to the invaders? His father was not a terrorist, he was resisting invaders of his country. Remember, the father and his other resisting friends did not come to USA to kill Americans. They did not invade you, You did instead. They were defending their own land. Now, imagine that China or any other country invaded USA and, you, Debbie, as a patriot, resisted the invaders, but your own son turned you in, would you call that son a hero and a good one?
You, Americans look at everything from your own point of view. You took an evil traitor of his own family and country, to your home, and called him a hero. So do you blame him if he thought that heroism in your country is doing evil deeds. What have you expected from someone who was applauded for turning his own father to the enemy?

ishtar on August 18, 2012 at 9:31 pm

As to the issue of having Moslems in USA, to stop them from coming to your country, STOP invading Moslem’s countries. You know, Debbie, every time you invade a country, you create thousands of collaborators in that country, and when you withdraw, those will follow your troops to USA, because they are heroes in your eyes and traitors in the eyes of their countrymen. Thus you have in USA Vietnamese, south Koreans,Cubans, Mexicans, Japanese, Chinese, Afghans, Iraqis etc. You know, you as American people, pay the price, every time your democratically elected government invades other peoples countries. The price is having evil collaborators – i.e. the scum- of other nations come to live next to you.

ishtar on August 18, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    ishtar on August 18, 2012 at 9:46 pm
    just might have a point
    The kid was a traitor, someone I’d never trust.

    You displace a population, you have to find them a home.
    Americans are just too nice to say NO.

    lil' Napoleon on August 19, 2012 at 1:05 am

      No it is not a case of being nice, but rather “public relations”. If you say no to native collaborators of some country you had invaded, next invasion, you will not find any collaborator!! See?

      ishtar on August 20, 2012 at 5:59 am

    Ishtar’s list of countries is not spot on, but the gist is: after American intervention, the US gets the folks (and their entire immediate families) who wanted to help out America and now find themselves on a hit list (along with their respective families).

    Plona Almona on August 20, 2012 at 12:22 am

      So this is never ending, as long as your government intervenes into other countries. And please, as any shrink about the inner struggle inside an Arab or Muslem who was encouraged by his country’s foreign occupiers to turn against their own families ( in our heritage, family is revered. God will love you only when you love you parents), such a person eventually – trying to redeem himself-will come to blame the Americans for his actions. And guess what, you have made him famous, Tv programs, books, interviews etc that is, you have made his secret “guilt and shame” public. He retaliates in his screwy ways .

      ishtar on August 20, 2012 at 6:23 am

ARE U SERIOUS !! what about Oprah ? wasn’t she rapped herself several times in her life ?
rape is a crime no matter what religion the rapist claims to have. U can’t judge the entire American men for being rapist just because a group of twisted people
this is a crime that can happen any time in any culture or country . the bad guy here is the criminal himself not his entire family or even country !!

sarah84 on August 20, 2012 at 2:33 am

Whichever one did the primary vile deed, the fact remains that he has been under Western influence for some time. At least that’s what I’ve gleaned from reading this article and watching the videos.

If Ramadon is indeed the primary perpetrator, then what were all those years under the Western sphere of influence worth? Nothing!

How many of these folks from the Middle East have we imported? For all I know, one is living on my street.

Don’t bring a snake into the house!

Always On Watch on August 21, 2012 at 10:14 am

you americans have brought this guy up, he was a child still when he left his muslim/ christian society, and joined your american society. the values he learned were the American values, which are simply to glorify the powerful might of guns and money. When he committed his first crime and committed grand treason against his homeland,against his own family, his own patriotic father and those poor 40 guys we know nothing about. you presumed that it was the “right thing to do”. you cheered as barbarians do. you americans made a hero out of him.

I do not approve of the appalling crime of rape this guy is accused of, but did not YOU americans raise this boy up to disregard the sanctity of human lives when you encouraged him to hand in 40 “maybe” innocent guys, despite your accuasation for them to be “jihadists”? Americans… you reap what you sow

Ali Al samawi on August 22, 2012 at 12:16 pm

This inhuman behavior, whether it was issued to a Muslim or any other religion,I wish to download the maximum punishment as a result of brutal barbaric behavior toward this woman.

Ali H. Yousif on August 22, 2012 at 3:53 pm

Not blaming the victim, but what women that you know would willingly go to an apartment alone with four men – Muslim men?

Phil on August 27, 2012 at 11:59 am

i do not justify their crime but y most of the people comments by muslims they r totally out of this rteligion i know some of them at the camp they are away form principles of great islam i am muslim and proud i appreciate us government and united nation bring me here ,i worked for the US army in iraq for 4 years , try to help them and help my new government but due to my service to them the terrorists threatened me so i cam here not for ever but untill the situation settle ,and i remember in 2008 an american soldier raped a teenage girl and killed her with her family and the girl got killed in california 3 months ago cause she is muslim we did not say all americans are bad think well not all your fingers equal in each community there is bad and good people we came for reason safety once we reach it in our country we all back there and for those people who hurt this woman they deserve punishment our religion does not ACCEPT THIS crime read well iabout islam them tell me if you agree …

Ali on September 6, 2012 at 12:28 am

    I agree with Ali here, any well educated person can see that only the individual can represent themselves, this crime was committed by sick sick individuals and not a people.

    But its cleverly written articles like these that stir hatred towards a people (muslim) with constantly referring to them as ‘Muslim’ Iraqi’s men instead of “Iraqi men’. Islam is a belief system and their muslim names mean nothing in relation to their beliefs.

    alonzo on October 4, 2012 at 6:34 pm

they do not represent one billion and13000000 muslims they represent themselves ONLY

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http://www.bayareashodokan.org on March 16, 2013 at 3:47 pm

He came here when he was only 13, he took down 40 of Sadaam’s top men, he saved the life of a whole battalion, and now he is a street criminal? It first sounds like he was a war hero and now he is acting like this? Can we really blame immigration for this? It sounds like he was given a hard time in the foster care system. It sounds like American society had a bad affect on him and alienated him. He also has some kind of brain damage so he might be on psych meds that made him irrational.

This story sounds more complicated than people are taking it for on the surface. Kids are abused very badly in foster care very often. If he was in it with no knowledge of English and with people calling him a terrorist, what kind of impression could he have formed of American society? After he gave up his whole family to protect Americans and they treated him like that, it must have been hard.

What he and his friends did was beyond disgusting and horrible, but things like this also happen in America with just Americans. I think this had more to do with rage against American society than a jihad mission for him.

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Lisa on January 26, 2014 at 8:40 pm

12 years in war Iraq turned him into a hero willing to sacrifice all to save lives. 9 years in US turned him into a violent rapist!

Ma on April 21, 2014 at 4:27 am

these guys are brought up by the US army, they belonged to you and to the american culture, what they did is a reflect of the american brutality, it has nothing to do with Muslims or Islam..

alabsi on April 21, 2014 at 9:26 am

some days ago a christian father raped innocent children. But we cant say he is christiannnnnnnnnnn. The person who rapes the women or children he is bloody criminal he has nothing to do with religion.

butt on April 22, 2014 at 9:01 am

I hope he gets the rough trade he is looking for in prison..

Moriah on April 28, 2014 at 7:36 pm

“This is the expected result when we take people out of the world’s jihadist killing fields and insert them onto American soil and expect them to have our values. ”

What an odd perspective from the resident of a nation that inserted itself into a country that was living peacefully, and turned it into a jihadist killing field. And you expect the to have your values… evidently they do.

Ed on May 21, 2014 at 6:55 am

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