October 10, 2012, - 5:07 pm

Romney: “I’ll Recommit US to Goal of Palestinian State, Fund/Arm Syrian Rebels” & Other Obama-esque BS

By Debbie Schlussel

Tomorrow’s Paul Ryan-Joe Biden debate on foreign policy may be meaningless in terms of substance because it’s the guys at the top who make the policy. And Romney’s ever-evolving policy on the Mid-East is now cross-dressing as Barack Obama’s.

While I was away for the Jewish holiday on Monday, Mitt Romney delivered a disturbing speech on foreign policy to the Virginia Military Institute (VMI). It’s not only just like Obama foreign policy, but probably worse. And it’s definitely a far cry (and almost a 180) from his speech in Israel a few months ago, just as I said. A few readers made comments about it while I was away, but reading the full text of the speech just reconfirms everything I’ve noted over and over again on this site about Romney and his Middle East policy. It will be no different, no better than Obama’s. The only difference is that Romney will have to run for re-election, and Obama can start tightening the vise in any way he wants against Israel. Romney told VMI that he will recommit the U.S. to the goal of establishing a Palestinian State (something Obama hasn’t done much of, thankfully). He also said he’d commit gazillions of dollars to arming and aiding the Syrian Al-Qaeda/Muslim Brotherhood rebels and put them in power. He committed to giving even more foreign aid to the barbaric Arab Spring “democracies” and delusionally told the audience that most Libyans want freedom and were against the terrorists that attacked our embassy (um, that was a nice PR stunt, and Romney fell for this Arabian Nights fantasy).

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On Iran, Romney says only that he will impose more sanctions–the same useless, worthless, ineffective policy we’ve seen in 12 years of Obama-Bush. He also criticizes Obama for not supporting the Hezbollah-supporting Iranian “democracy protesters.” It’s the same old ignorant crap. Nothing new, and more important, nothing better.

Romney also says he will increase “cooperation” with the Arab Muslim Gulf states that continue to boycott Israel–the same states that aided and abetted the 9/11 terrorists and that, today, willingly and knowingly serve as shipping points for nuclear components headed straight to Iran. We are already sharing nuclear and other vital national security secrets with these states, per Bush and Obama agreements. How is that helpful to us? It isn’t. It’s just stupidity in the interest of future large donations to Presidential libraries.

Romney’s claim that he will attach “strings” and conditions to the foreign aid is a pipe dream. There have been such strings and conditions for decades. They are never enforced, and his administration won’t be different on this than the Bush, Obama, Clinton, and Bush administrations were before him on this. Bush didn’t stop gazillions in USAID money from going straight to Hezbollah. Don’t expect Romney (who is to Bush’s left) to do so. I found it interesting to read the supportive comments of Henry Kissinger, a Romney foreign policy adviser, praising the speech in the Wall Street Journal. This is the same Kissinger who gushed to the New York Post’s Cindy Adams that Israel won’t exist in ten years. The same Kissinger, whose major client is Saudi Arabia (and who helped negotiate Israel out of existence in the second “Transformers” movie).

Here are some of the Romney speech excerpts I found of interest (and not in a good way)–if you think ANY of these are the way to regain “respect” in the Middle East and/or stave off the Islamic threat to America, you’re a moron:

Mitt Romney’s Re-Commitment Ceremony to the Ugly Palestinian Bride . . .

I will recommit America to the goal of a democratic, prosperous Palestinian state living side by side in peace and security with the Jewish state of Israel. On this vital issue, the President has failed, and what should be a negotiation process has devolved into a series of heated disputes at the United Nations. In this old conflict, as in every challenge we face in the Middle East, only a new President will bring the chance to begin anew.


Mitt Romney’s Fantasy of America-loving Muslim Democrats . . .

After the attack on our Consulate, tens of thousands of Libyans, most of them young people, held a massive protest in Benghazi against the very extremists who murdered our people. They waved signs that read, “The Ambassador was Libya’s friend” and “Libya is sorry.” They chanted “No to militias.” They marched, unarmed, to the terrorist compound. Then they burned it to the ground. As one Libyan woman said, “We are not going to go from darkness to darkness.”

Reality check: even the liberal media said it was about a thousand people, not “tens of thousands.” And it was a carefully orchestrated PR move days after the attacks because the Libyan Muslim savages don’t want the gravy train from the stupid Americans who put them in power to end.

On Syria . . .

In Syria, I will work with our partners to identify and organize those members of the opposition who share our values and ensure they obtain the arms they need to defeat Assad’s tanks, helicopters, and fighter jets.

How ’bout working to stay out of it and just letting them kill each other all by themselves? Both sides have one thing in common in Syria: they are not–and NEVER will be–on our side.

On Iran . . .

I will put the leaders of Iran on notice that the United States and our friends and allies will prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons capability. I will not hesitate to impose new sanctions on Iran, and will tighten the sanctions we currently have. I will restore the permanent presence of aircraft carrier task forces in both the Eastern Mediterranean and the Gulf region—and work with Israel to increase our military assistance and coordination. For the sake of peace, we must make clear to Iran through actions—not just words—that their nuclear pursuit will not be tolerated.

Huh? How does more sanctions do anything? Or putting aircraft carriers there? Sanctions don’t work. We’ve seen that for 12 years. We saw it in Iraq for years before that. Our military presence in the region isn’t new either. And, that, too, won’t stop–and hasn’t stopped–Iran from developing nukes. This is just more Obama stuff.

The only sensible thing Romney said in this speech was that he would roll back Obama’s cuts to our military. But that’s not enough. In fact, if he’s going to simultaneously pursue the same old liberal, Arab Spring, Palestinian State, throw money and arms at them crap, it counteracts any restoration of our military.

I’ve said before that I will very reluctantly vote for Romney (and hate myself for it), but I really feel that on the important national security issues–immigration and foreign policy, I basically have a choice between tan Obama and White Obama. This speech only reinforces that sad reality.

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Meanwhile, Nobama is starting up war so he can tell voters that we are unable to change “leadership” at such a critical juncture….

Crisis of leadership…

As goes Israel, so goes the World... on October 10, 2012 at 5:24 pm

While I currently intend to vote for Romney (despite agreeing with everything Debbie stated here about him) I am wondering if we would be better off were Obama to win.

Obama will be worse than Romney, but by how much? However an Obama win makes possible an Allan West Presidency in 2016 (Actually January 2017) while A Romney win pushes it off 4 more years.

I_AM_ME on October 10, 2012 at 5:27 pm

The problem with Obama paving the way for a Republican is that meantime, Obama will increase voter fraud, phony voter registration, give money to voter-fraud groups like Acorn, probably ease the way for felons to vote wherever possible, and increase the use of voter intimidation by thug unions and the New Black Panthers.

He will also steer more money and projects to border states that a Democrat will have to win in 2016 to get elected. Unfortunately, West will be lucky if he is re-elected, due to lack of both Democratic and Republican support during the 2010 redistricting.

Little Al on October 10, 2012 at 5:32 pm

And Romney only comments about foreign affairs when he has to, or when some type of opportunism is involved. For instance, he has been quiet about the Venezuelan election, and would probably agree with the WSJ approach manifested today about encouraging ‘good’ Muslims (e.g. Indonesia.)

Little Al on October 10, 2012 at 5:34 pm

Aren’t the Syrian rebels the same Muslim brotherhood bastards that took over Egypt and Libya? They are worse than what was running those countries. Hey, here’s an idea for a Palestinian state: A nice little colony on Mars, or maybe even further out.

RT on October 10, 2012 at 5:42 pm

Wake up boys and girls, no matter who wins we lose. We’re going to be cost dearly by relying upon the nations, who have never been on our side for one second throughout the entire passage of time. We can do it on our own, if we stand up for ourselves.

Reality on October 10, 2012 at 5:42 pm

Geez, Romney is the kind of idiot Republican who can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. He is the Douchebag of the Week.

As for as Henry Kissingrear, he was never any damn good. The seeds of th eproblems we have today with China and in the Middle East were laid by Kissingrear. He was the scumbag who encouraged the Shah of Iran to double oil prices, and he encouraged the formation of OPEC behind the scenes.

Jonathan E. Grant on October 10, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    Yeah that’s what I’m talking about bain–ybce work!

    Kiana on May 24, 2014 at 2:58 pm

Kissingrear also married an ugly woman instead of a hot babe like Jill St. John. Schmuck!

Jonathan E. Grant on October 10, 2012 at 5:48 pm

I am in the camp of anybody-but-Obama. At least the president will be Christian, so he may show less favor for one religion over another. No western nation would ever accept a leader who would be willing to do what really needs to be done in the Middle East. Every Muslim nation is an enemy of the U.S. and should be treated as such. We are going nowhere trying to aid and abet our enemies.

Raymond of Canada on October 10, 2012 at 5:53 pm

wtf is this crap of pandering to ragheads because they can not affect the out come of any election yet?why are the democrats allowing pisslam into our country do they want a civil war if so they should know that we know where they live.while they kill us we will visit their families and give them what they give us.if you think real americans are not pissed off then you have your head where the sun don’t shine.

BRUCE on October 10, 2012 at 6:06 pm

Schlussel, when will you tell the truth?

1. Israel has already agreed to a palestinian state side-by-side with the Jewish state in secure defensible borders. This is not news.

2. Sanctions only work when all the countries abide by it. The Obama admin has given numerous waivers on the sanctions so they don’t really work. BTW, the Iranian economy is aready in a free-fall.

3. Romney has said the Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel. He hasn’t backtracked on that.

4. Romney also said in this speech: I will reaffirm our historic ties to Israel and our abiding commitment to its security—the world must never see any daylight between our two nations.

Absolutely NOTHING like Hussein.

FrenchKiss on October 10, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    FK,

    1. The so-called “two state solution” is a contradiction in terms. You can believe the Arabs want peace or they seek Israel’s destruction. You cannot believe both of them are equally true.

    2. Totalitarian regimes are not deterred by domestic hardship or suffering to achieve goals important to the regime’s leaders. If Iranians have to suffer and die for Iran to get the nuclear bomb, that’s not a consideration for those running Iran today. Sanctions have never overthrown an entrenched dictatorship.

    3. Mitt Happens did NOT promise to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem. It not going to happen on his watch or on that of any future US President.

    4. A candidate can say what he wants during election time. Its all fertilizer BS.

    Only you Romneybots uncritically take everything Romney at face value as the gospel truth. But you criticize Obama for everything he’s screwed up. Aren’t you a hypocrite in supporting Romney for pursuing the same set of policies that are already in place under Obama?

    Given all of the above, why should ANY conservative vote for Mitt Williard Romney? He’s simply Obama with a lighter tan. Not the kind of change America truly deserves and needs. That’s why regardless of what happens in November, the country is royally screwed.

    NormanF on October 10, 2012 at 8:14 pm

      Excellent Post, Norman. Israel has agreed in principle to two states and that’s just dumb but it has done so conditionally. First of all, we maintain our contiguity and second there must be an enforceable peace. It’s political rhetoric but with the US about to invade us from Jordan (yeah, sure the troops are there to defend Syrian rebels) we have bigger worries.

      Italkit on October 11, 2012 at 2:13 am

        Italkit, if the US is about to invade a nuclear power, it won’t be one with a nuclear triad.

        skzion on October 11, 2012 at 10:58 am

          sk, no one here believes that we won’t have US troops moving in. Some believe they’re here already. I think Americans want to believe that Israel wouldn’t nuke you and they may be right but I think it’s more likely that the State department and Pentagon believe they could prevent us from using them if that’s incorrect.

          Italkit on October 11, 2012 at 11:36 am

          Italkit, be carefull about “no one believes X.” We travel in narrow circles.

          I simply say that Israel certainly provides benefits to the US as-is. I wonder how many terrorist attacks against American targets have been foiled by Israeli intelligence. That, and the historical fact that the US has never invaded a nuclear power, tells me what I need to know.

          If the US wanted to break that record, Pakistan would be a logical first target.

          skzion on October 11, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    FrenchKIss,
    Everything that Romney has said about his support for Israel has been said before. By Clinton,Bush 1, Bush 2, Obama and preceding presidents. If you believe that they are honest and mean what they say then I have a bridge in Brooklyn you might want to buy.

    Jerry G on October 11, 2012 at 9:10 am

Romney IS a liberal after all and he has Arabist foreign policy advisers.

I’m not surprised this is his real view. Thankfully, he won’t get much of a chance to see them become a reality because every new President has a learning curve on the Middle East.

The only constraint on renewed pressure on Israel to commit national suicide is that Romney will have to run for re-election. Obama won’t have to.

This is another reason I’m not voting for Mitt Happens. I think his views are all wrong and will not strengthen America’s standing in the Middle East and around the world. I won’t vote to put a white Obama liberal as Debbie so cheerfully put it today – in the White House!

NormanF on October 10, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    Then you are voting for Israel’s destruction. And you say you support Israel? Ha!

    FrenchKiss on October 10, 2012 at 6:35 pm

      Mitt Happens supports a Palestinian Arab state – this is the same guy who said awhile back the Palestinian Arabs are committed to Israel’s destruction. Then how come the schmutz can support statehood for them?

      And he wants to support the Islamic terrorists trying to take over Syria. Yay – like the Islamic Spring will advance peace and democracy in the Muslim World. As Debbbie would say RIF = Reading Is Fundamental.

      You Romneybots put all your hopes in Romney’s previous sensible position – until he reverses his view on it, too. I can’t say its like I am disappointed. In all his flip-flopping, Mitt Happens has done a brilliant job so far! Too bad his enemies haven’t noticed it.

      NormanF on October 10, 2012 at 8:02 pm

        Yes, you ARE right, reading is fundamental. Romney supports the same strategy that Israel supports. Namely, a palestinian state. Duh!

        FrenchKiss on October 10, 2012 at 8:06 pm

          Israel’s dhimmi leaders can wait for the peace (that will never be) they crave until the Messiah arrives.

          It doesn’t mean its good for Israel or for America. There is nothing honorable, decent or kind about the Muslim World.

          Rewarding savages with affirmative action won’t lead them to become civilized human beings.

          That’s why both Israel – and America – have a seriously messed up policy on the Middle East.

          NormanF on October 10, 2012 at 8:19 pm

        BTW, the ONLY issue he flip-flopped on is ABORTION. Unlike Schlussel and other so-called conservatives that misrepresent his positions. Now he is against it. What’s wrong with that?

        FrenchKiss on October 10, 2012 at 8:09 pm

          FK,

          LMAO! Now he’s lying to social conservatives just as he lied to pro-Israel voters.

          Debbie, me and other conservatives believe being pro-life is a matter of fundamental principle.

          For Mitt Happens, its an issue of political expediency. Again, why would you trust anything he says before he gets elected?

          I’d watch what he does – not what he says – and you should, too!

          NormanF on October 10, 2012 at 8:24 pm

      Oh spare us, French Kiss. Israel’s destruction–which I think is more likely than not–will be because of domestic Israeli factors, not because of anything a US president says or does.

      From Ben-Gurion on Israel’s elites have cherished the Muslims in their midst while making sure that Israel’s political system would be able to flout its mass public. The latter would naturally be much less accomodating to the Muslims. In turn, this mass public has been passive, or fatalistic, or leftist.

      I don’t think any American Jew should base his vote on the issue of Israel’s safety.

      skzion on October 11, 2012 at 11:14 am

        sk, I agree with you that no American should base their vote on support for Israel… because there ain’t going to be any, no matter who’s elected.
        However, you well know I disagree vehemently with you on your certainty that Israel is going to be destroyed. We have an ETERNAL promise. What don’t you understand about that word? We can debate if this is the final go round of prophecy, I happen to think it is, therefore Israel will NOT be destroyed, utterly, but I could be wrong and we could face yet another diaspora and redemption.

        Italkit on October 11, 2012 at 11:42 am

          Italkit, I did not suggest that the destruction of Israel was certain, only that it was more than than 50% for its current incarnation. Nor–as you seem to acknowledge–does an eternal promise mean that any specific gathering in Eretz Israel–e.g., today’s Israel–is promised to survive.

          I really don’t see why Hashem would choose to continue aiding this version of Israel. I will be sorry when aid is withdrawn, but really, can one complain?

          skzion on October 11, 2012 at 12:06 pm


        Oh spare us, French Kiss. Israel’s destruction–which I think is more likely than not–will be because of domestic Israeli factors, not because of anything a US president says or does.

        From Ben-Gurion on Israel’s elites have cherished the Muslims in their midst while making sure that Israel’s political system would be able to flout its mass public. The latter would naturally be much less accomodating to the Muslims. In turn, this mass public has been passive, or fatalistic, or leftist.

        I don’t think any American Jew should base his vote on the issue of Israel’s safety.

        Fine. Then vote for the person you think will be best for America. And if you say its Obama, you’d be wrong.

        BTW, you wanna expel all muslims from Israel, be my guest. Of course, Israel’s “elites” aren’t the only ones who would find that disagreable. Jihadists, the world’s Jew-haters, and reasonable people would have a problem with that. That would invite more death and destruction to reign down on Israel. But I guess you are okay with more Jewish deaths with no real gain. Good job Einstein!

        FrenchKiss on October 11, 2012 at 1:51 pm

          FrenchKiss sez:

          “Fine. Then vote for the person you think will be best for America.”

          Despite all of his frenzied flame throwing, FK isn’t very bright, is he? Frenchy cannot understand–just cannot process whatsoever–the arguments that lead one rationally to sit out any given round of an iterated game like a US election. I mean, yes, he’s a foul-mouthed twenty-something, but you’d think that after several people here explained their rationale, even FK could understand it however much he would disagree with it.

          “BTW, you wanna expel all muslims from Israel, be my guest. Of course, Israel’s “elites” aren’t the only ones who would find that disagreable. Jihadists, the world’s Jew-haters, and reasonable people would have a problem with that.”

          This is wonderful coming from someone who has more than once expressed his view here that blacks are the number one cause of problems in the US, and who evidently believes that blacks are racially wired to be evil doers. We don’t have many out-and-out racists here, but this one is now finding the expulsion of Muslims from Israel “disagreeable”?

          “That would invite more death and destruction to reign down on Israel. But I guess you are okay with more Jewish deaths with no real gain. Good job Einstein!”

          What would FK know about Einstein? Even less than about Torah, history, and political science. Torah makes it clear that the Jews of Eretz Israel may not allow a foreign nation to wage war against Jews in Eretz Israel. I have given relevant cites to the Rambam’s Mishneh Torah more than once. So much for the moral case, unless your moral system comes from the UN. History shows that Israel is most supported when it is most fearsome to its enemies. The US was not a real supporter of Israel until the ’67 war showed who the “strong horse” was in the area. Since the ’73 war, Israel’s foreign position has substantially weakened, dropping catastrophically starting with Oslo. Jewish life is most secure, therefore, when Israel is the “strong horse.” As for political science, Machiavelli tells us that if one has to do something that will be unpopular, do it quickly and completely. The Muslims of Eretz Israel will never tolerate Jews, and we know that. The US will never interfere with a nuclear power (like Israel), certainly not one with a triad (know what a triad is, FK?), and only the US could doing anything about a policy that expelled Muslims. Israel is not, after all, Serbia. Even apart from its nuclear arsenal, Israel supplies very needed human intelligence (humint) and technological assistance, as well as offering secret bases for US forces (you don’t really doubt the latter, do you?).

          skzion on October 11, 2012 at 6:16 pm

I heard Jim Quinn allude to this on Tuesday’s show and didn’t have the stomach to look it up. I didn’t need to. I know COMPLETELY who Mitt Zombie is and am NOT kidding myself like many gung-ho Republicans and uninformed Conservatives are with their irrational exuberance for Mitt-Happens.

We gotta gives props to DS for that. She has helped us cut through the muck and the mire (and I will contribute to her site again once I get past a minor financial impasse). When I go through my Twitters feed I know who knows their stuff and who doesn’t by how fawning they are regarding Flip Floppney. I don’t hate them but I do think it’s a pity when they are missing so many pieces of the puzzle. Most mean well but even so it’s sad to see so many clueless Conservatives.

Bostonians have the dubious delight of having a crappy Liberal show come to Beantown this week…”Frank & Fran” and it’s a borefest tete-a-tete with Frank Rich and screwy Fran Liebowitz.
I couldn’t get through a fawning interview with that fuzzy-hair freak concerning her politics. She’s so proud of her Liberalism even though she hates Romney with a passion (why, manly-Fran? He’s so Liberal you SHOULD love him!!!) and how she was a John Edwards fan. What a frizzy fraud that fool is and she doesn’t have the dignity to know it!! Someone should make her eat her friggen’ hair!!!

Yep, Mitt Zombie is just getting my vote. And if that bugga wins I am gonna watch that Liberal like a hawk.

It should be funny that so many mental-cased Liberals think Mitt Romney is so bloody “dangerous” and right-wing (*IF ONLY!!!*) when he’s their type of guy but it’s not because I am tired of their arrogant stupidity and where the country is in 2012! It’s anything but funny.

Skunky on October 10, 2012 at 7:08 pm

@Debbie Schlussel
Isn’t this part of Romney’s strategy to win over moderate voters? Some kind of Republican taqqiya?

Dutch Renitent on October 10, 2012 at 7:29 pm

Hopefully this secretly recorded video is closer to the way Romney really thinks about the so called “peace process”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukhFBJgrZxM

Dutch Renitent on October 10, 2012 at 7:47 pm

Well Debbie, you have convinced me that the only reasonable vote is for Obama. What a fucking Eyore.

vizslak72 on October 10, 2012 at 7:51 pm

You don’t have to like the pragmatic approach necessary to have a chance to be elected president. I despise it; wish it wasn’t what reality dictates.

Romney’s negatives, real and imagined, still leave us with a candidate worthy of the presidency by comparison to the baleful obscenity of Obama.

Personally,I see in Romney more to be optimistic about than negative. For those you don’t, consider holding your nose if necessary while casting a vote for Romney thinking it not a vote for Romney as much as a vote against the sitting president.

lee, of the lower case "l" on October 10, 2012 at 8:50 pm

And just this: There is a real and crucially meaningful difference between Obama and Romney that it shouldn’t be necessary to be more than brief in stating so.

lee, of the lower case "l" on October 10, 2012 at 9:12 pm

DS and others here, I’ve heard Romney’s speech on some conservative talk shows, regarding the Syria situation, I’ve heard that christians, jews & secularists in Syria are somewhat supporting Assad over the so-called Syrian rebels. We shouldn’t get involved in Syria, because from what I’ve learned and read that an al-qeada leader earlier this year claimed that muslims worldwide should go to Syria, team-up with the Rebels and overthrow the Assad regime, so we should let “allah” sort out Syria (I know not all Syrian folks are muslims, but a good majority of them happen to be).

As for a Palestinian state, it should be Jordan, as Debbie pointed out earlier this year when she wrote an article about Jordan’s Queen, that a good number of Jordanian people are of Palestinian lineage, etc. (and I’ve studied it on my own as well).

As for Iran, Israel should’ve attacked their nukes a long time ago instead of doing “The Boy Who Cried Wolf” and saying “yadda yadda Iran is about months away from getting and building up nuclear weapons yadda yadda”. We all know that that Hitler in Iran (Ahmadinejad) will not use his nuclear weapsons for his country-people’s interest, he’s basically going to use those weapons against Israel and potentially against the US (godforbid), in which the scumbag refered to both Israel and the US as “satan”! And we all know that Ahmadinejad is WORST than Hitler, atleast when Hitler was elected to power, he didn’t say that he wanted to kill the jew, etc., Ahmadinejad has been caught on record NUMEROUS times calling for a genocide of jewish people (like Debbie herself) and the eradication of Israel and the world does nothing about this genocidal asshat!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on October 10, 2012 at 9:15 pm

Romney, astute busiessman that he is, knows the difficulties of achieving a return on investment. So rather than exploiting US oil reserves for energy independence you can rely on him in continuing to suck up to the old boy jihad network for oil, despite his rhetoric.

Nighthawk on October 10, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    No other choice. We have to vote for him but I agree

    Mark
    Newark, CA

    Mark D on October 10, 2012 at 9:30 pm

What a surprise! Eh?

We have the best government Saudi petro-dollars can buy.

There is NO Santa Claus on October 10, 2012 at 10:30 pm

Debbie did a fine job this elcetion season for she has convinced me not to vote. I was almost but not completely beaten into submission a few weeks ago when I dared suggest that even if we don’t like Romney on every issue he is still a far better choice than the current POTUS. It seems to never occur to those who profess their love of both our country and Israel that no vote for Romney is a vote for the devil himself. We cannot afford to throw this election away because Debbie can’t get everything she wants,. Romney isn’t my first or second choice either but we can’t afford 4 more years of a dictator who’s aim is to destroy the US. Then where will Israel be? Neither the US nor Israel can wait until we get the most perfect candidate. Obama is defunding our military and our defense companies are ready to lay off 10’s of thousands of employees after he is anointed again. Just who is going to help Israel then? If you get your wish and convince your “followers” not to vote and Obama wins you’ve helped to destroy a country you claim to love. Go ahead and insult me, I expect it, it’s what you do so well when someone dares to have a different opinion. You only want the obsequious here.

Blanco on October 10, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    Blanco, I’ve been saying for months that the only choice is to not vote. They’re BOTH traitors to the US and you will have your dictator for more than 4 years either way. Romney is a globalist and already talking increasing military strength so you will have a dictator with a strong military backing him and until enough troops are trained, probably UN and/or NATO troops filling in.
    Forget good for Israel, Neither one is and now that US troops are just the other side of that little creek known as the Jordan River, which they can wade across, we don’t need a strong US military because the agenda is to use it against us.
    The Armilus (Antichrist) is POTUS, doesn’t matter which one. It may be he who wins this election or someone in the future but make no mistake, the American Government is no friend of Israel. We are dependent only on Hashem, G-d.

    Italkit on October 11, 2012 at 2:28 am

      @Italkit. But what can you hope to gain by not voting? Isn’t there a senate seat or a house seat you need to cast a vote for or against? And do you really think this country wouldn’t be better off by voting Obama out? At least there is a chance with him gone but if he remains there is no chance we can survive economically or militarily. You may not care about jobs or our military strenght but we cannot survive as a nation without both. And no, the US government isn’t a friend to the American people, I know that to be true.

      Blanco on October 11, 2012 at 9:02 am

        Well, as I live in Israel and don’t have a legal address in the US not that that stops most American Israelis, I wouldn’t be voting anyway. So, even if I could somehow legally vote for POTUS, Congressional seats are totally irrelevant to me.
        One reason we left when we did was jobs. My 55 year old husband was struggling along on substitute teaching and maybe menial work during the summers. I am older so, no hope. I do think a nation needs a strong military but when it’s a potential dictator pushing it, beware. Like most things, it can be used for good or bad.

        Italkit on October 11, 2012 at 11:48 am

    I see that Blanco, our favorite Mittens operative and transsexual, is back.

    skzion on October 11, 2012 at 11:37 am

http://www.suntimes.com/news/washington/15581902-452/reporter-lara-logan-brings-ominous-news-from-middle-east.html

“There is this narrative coming out of Washington for the last two years,” Logan said. It is driven in part by “Taliban apologists,” who claim “they are just the poor moderate, gentler, kinder Taliban,” she added sarcastically. “It’s such nonsense!”, so said Debbie’s favorite reporter, Lara Logan. Is she playing the game of “A conservative is a liberal who has just been the victim of a mugging”? Is she voting for Romney?

Ethan on October 10, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    In Lara Logan’s case, it wasn’t a mugging; it was a rape. And whether or not her words are an acting job, they’re right on the money.

    rocker on October 11, 2012 at 1:02 am

Barack Obama has a point in asking what would Mitt Romney actually do differently in the area of foreign policy. In the Middle East, which is the most critical area, it does not seem that he would do very much. A Palestinian state of any sort would be detrimental to Israel’s national existence. Whether the PLO or Hamas runs the show makes little difference. Did Prime Minister Sharon’s handing over the Gaza Strip to the Palestinians for literally nothing gain Israel any good will from the Palestinians or anyone else in the Middle East? No, it did not. In fact, it was viewed as an act of weakness that was to be exploited. Doe anyone seriously thing that Israel’s relinquishing all control over the West Bank would be any different in its results? Mitt Romney actually spoke the truth in that much maligned video taken at a private fundraiser. The Palestinians have absolutely no interest in a settlement. They have found one excuse after another for more than a decade mot to discuss anything of import with the Israelis. Even when President Clinton essentially gave the Palestinians virtually everything they wanted and all that they could ever hope to get from negotiations, Arafat turned the offer down flat. That should have let the outside world know that the Palestinians had no interest a negotiated settlement. At that point, all Western and United Nations aid should have been cut off. The Palestinians would have become an Islamic burden, rather than one for the dhimmis. Since even the wealthy Saudi Arabia is notoriously stingy with its brethren, the Palestinians would face the same choice a heroin addict would: Do I wish to slowly wish to die out, or give up the fantasy of obliterating Israel and live? The problem has been that the Palestinians have never really had to face that choice. The aid flows no matter what they do, whether it is deadly cross border incursions or rocket attacks. Over the decades, the Palestinians have trust their fate to gangsters and Islam. Let them continue to follow such people, but without outside Western or UN help. Saudi Arabia and its neighbors are more than willing to send out boatloads of religious texts, but not so much anything useful or edible.

Worry01 on October 11, 2012 at 6:56 am

For months I have been urging the GOP/RNC to deal with more than the economy. 100% employment is meaningless if the gov’t
surrenders to sharia law and the caliphate and destroys the Constitution!

This silly “road map” on the creation of a state for the
Jordanian outcasts should have been dropped as soon as the intifada contineed unabated. They can move into Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Bangladesh, wherever — but terrorism must not be rewarded with a UN approved “nation.”

The Mutthead is Obama lite — Obama does not make mention of a separate Palestinian nation as his primary goal in the mideast (eradication of Israel) would naturally be
replaced by such an enterprize.

Mutthead knows how to offend the conservatives and Tea Party crowd —yet he expects their vote? Does he plan to act
against the will of the people like BHO and “W” before him?

My guess is that his advisors are infested with reds and
jihadists just as our regime has been contaminated. It is
clear the Mutthead will not mention scandals, gun running, scams with “green” jobs and the ugly moslem “outreach.”
Then why is he running at all?

Otto Schaden on October 11, 2012 at 7:53 am

You know how the far Left say it don’t matter if you vote for Reps or Dems because either way they serve Wall Street, well they are right that it doesn’t matter if you vote for Reps or Dems (at least Romney or Obama), since either way they are dhimmis in service to Islam and the latter’s agendas.

And there are all these so-called anti-dhimmi conservatives who shill for Romney like he’s Allen West, and the last hope against the fall of America to Muslim supremacist agendas. As Lenny Cohen put it (something of a dhimmi himself but he can write some cool songs), “it’s over it ain’t going any further”.

Larry in Tel Aviv on October 11, 2012 at 7:56 am

Last Monday was Columbus Day, in honor of the great pioneer who discovered America. Nary a peep out of Obama or Romney to commemorate this towering figure.

As I understand it, the prevailing political wisdom today is to refer to it as Native Americans Day. It would be nice once and a while to see a politician show respect for Columbus and the traditions of our country. This is another test that Romney has not passed.

Little Al on October 11, 2012 at 8:03 am

    LA, I don’t think Columbus intended the slaughter and genocide of the Natives but since he was a Jew and supposedly his voyage was in part to get Jews out of Spain to safety, he should have understood his masters and their agenda better. What the Inquisition driven Explorations did was every bit a jihad against “infidels” and heathens as what the Muslims are doing now.

    Italkit on October 11, 2012 at 11:53 am

      Italkit, you are taking an ahistorical approach, and looking at Columbus (whose Jewishness is unclear) out of context. The US’s relationship with Indians was complex; many were bloodthirsty savages, and many were aligned with European enemies/adversaries of the US, such as the British and the French.

      Fights between nations for land and power have gone on throughout history — we also gave the Indians the benefits of our technology, and have had affirmative action programs for them in the last few decades, as well as exemptions from laws and regulations that White Americans cannot benefit from.

      Taking a broader view, there is no question that Western civilized values, as exhibited by the great thinkers of the Western tradition, starting with the Greeks and Romans, extending through the Middle Ages, the Renaissance, the Enlightenment, and the best of the 19th Century, are superior to all other civilizations. The rule of law (to the extent it hasn’t been eroded by recent PCers), the idea of freedom and liberty, and equality of opportunity are unparalleled.

      It is this heritage that supporters of Native American Day wish to undermine.

      Little Al on October 11, 2012 at 1:33 pm

        So, LA, I guess Jews are blood thirsty savages because when we’re attacked for dominance of our land and genocide we fight back? Don’t you see the parallels? Stop swallowing the skewed “history” we were all fed in school and even more so if we went to Catholic schools. Those murderous Inquisitors were hailed as saints and martyrs for forcing the Natives into submission to the Church. All for their own good, dont’cha know? Sound familiar?

        Italkit on October 12, 2012 at 4:15 am

        Superior by whose standard? The only standard I care about is Torah and quite honestly, there’s more in the Native American culture that resonates there, depending on Nation or Tribe. But I guess someone who sees Industrialization as “progress” along with the rape, not the mere husbanding of the Earth and it’s resources, wouldn’t think so. Western imperialism has done more damage to the World than any indigenous cultures, even with their internecine wars. And I include the desolation of the American South which turned agricultural slaves into slaves of the Industrial monster.
        If I use the products of industrialization, it is with great regret and absolute necessity. My intellect is fascinated by them but my soul abhors them. I am truly grateful that, despite some mobility issues, we no longer have a car. I came to HATE feeding the beast as much as I used to love to drive.

        Italkit on October 12, 2012 at 4:23 am

          “The only standard I care about is Torah and quite honestly, there’s more in the Native American culture that resonates there, depending on Nation or Tribe.”

          C’mon, Italkit. I have done some touring of US-based Indian sites; I have visited Mexico twice, focusing on the artifacts and culture of the pre-Spanish peoples there; and I recently spent two weeks in Peru, with my usual anthropological and historical focus (nightlife has never been very important to me when I travel). While I am fascinated by these cultures, they are really foreign and have nothing obviously to do with Jewish, Christian, or Western cultures. In contrast, the different Indian cultures are all obviously related.

          Indians were not given North America by G-d. They are utterly unlike Jews. (And I HOPE you don’t buy the Mormon nonsense about a Jewish connection to certain pre-Columbian peoples. )

          Don’t get all pissed off. I just think you should find another hobby horse.

          skzion on October 14, 2012 at 12:01 am

    Nice point.

    skzion on October 11, 2012 at 11:54 am

    Nice point, Little Al.

    skzion on October 11, 2012 at 11:54 am

OT, but disturbing:

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-is-no-god-but-allah/

Nick Fury on October 11, 2012 at 10:51 am

Now i almost dont want to vote for romney, i am having second doubts now

Clinton on October 11, 2012 at 11:19 am

While I can appreciate your distaste of Mr. Romney’s policy on Israel, the alternate choice appears worse. I always find it puzzling that Repubs have a list of positions they expect their candidate to support. But if the candidate fails to meet each one exactly, they are attacked and castigated. Perhaps it is time to look at the overall picture and support the best overall candidate. Continually whining and harping on one portion of their plan that you disagree with is foolish and just splits up the party. Which plays into the democrats strategy of divide and conquer.

Kevin J on October 11, 2012 at 11:53 am

    Kevin sez:

    “Perhaps it is time to look at the overall picture and support the best overall candidate.”

    I am. And that candidate is future candidate X whose election requires the defeat of Willard Mittens Romney.

    Try to avoid behaving as if you were a rat in a T maze, unaware of history and unable to think beyond the current election. How many crappy presidential terms must elapse before we get a Republican candidate who is moderately conservative economically and satisfacory on immigration and Islam? I’m not demanding that much.

    Now take this message back to Mittens: NO! One thousand times NO!

    skzion on October 11, 2012 at 12:17 pm

What would McGyver do????????

IceNoMore on October 11, 2012 at 12:06 pm

I agree with FrenchKiss,

As an American Jew, I’m not going to be more pro-Israel than the Israelis, who have already made clear that Romney is waaaay more preferable than BHO.

And the two state solution is already a fait accompli. The rest is bilateral relations, security and final borders.

Go Mitt!

True Jew on October 11, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    True Jew sez:

    “As an American Jew, I’m not going to be more pro-Israel than the Israelis…”

    But you can certainly be more pro-Jewish that the Israelis. If Israel’s leaders cared about Jews, they would have expelled or killed the Muslims squatting there, not given support for cutting off pieces of the Land to give to said Muslims.

    If half of world Jewry wound stop assuming that Israel’s elite are pro-Jewish, perhaps that country would actually become a democratic republic.

    skzion on October 11, 2012 at 12:24 pm

      Hey Skzion ,keep up on doing good job on this site. Cheers!!!

      Skunky, I am far of being Muslim my dEAR muslimette. We are those ,who had kept Saracens in bay for long,long time,since 1129

      Anyways four short sentences for you:|

      -Air fare to Australia $1500.00

      -Pint of Foster at Sydney pub $ 5.00

      -Lovely night at Sydney opera $ 75.00 pp

      -Being a Muslim in hiding-priceless

      “You can run,but you can not hide…”

      temida/patriot on October 11, 2012 at 12:42 pm

        termite/patriot: I guess you think praise from you will damage me here. You are a troll. Beat it.

        skzion on October 11, 2012 at 5:41 pm

        “Temida/Patriot” LOL. Your English sucks and you count sentences like Joe Biden counts letters.

        “A three-letter word jobs J*O*B*S…jobs.”

        You wrote 5 sentences after you said you would write 4. Dillweed.

        Skunky on October 11, 2012 at 6:29 pm

      You are truly a moron. What are YOU doing to fight the “muslim menace”? Living safely in America? Don’t pretend to know what’s going on there, by living here. Israelis know better how to protect their country and if they agree to a two-state solution so be it. Expelling muslims? Much as I’d like to see it myself, I know its moronic even to suggest that as a solution. What about the Druze? Wanna expel them too? Do you know how sick and tired Israelis are of constantly fighting? It requires so much blood and treasure. Sure Israel has to fight at times, but it can also live with the muslims in the right circumstances. Jeez you are a jackass.

      FrenchKiss on October 11, 2012 at 1:59 pm

        FrenchKiss sez:

        “You are truly a moron.”

        I have already addressed the inanities of FrenchKiss (October 11, 2012 at 6:16 pm). This is the clown who thinks that “the two-state solution” will protect Jewish life! Just read those back-and-forths with NormanF.

        “What are YOU doing to fight the “muslim menace”? Living safely in America?”

        Here FK uses a fallacious type of argument. It does not matter where I live. Anyway, I do a small part in fighting the Muslim Menace (notice how FK, who really hates blacks, needs to put scare quotes around “muslim menace”).

        In fact, I wasn’t aware that I was that safe in America, but I certainly wouldn’t trust myself to the authorities in Israel, who are fearsome when it comes to throwing pregnant Jews out of their windows in Yesha but do virtually nothing to the Fakestinians there.

        “Don’t pretend to know what’s going on there, by living here. Israelis know better how to protect their country”

        I presume FK lives in the US, but he doesn’t know what’s going on here. Clearly, living somewhere does not magically convey knowledge. I do claim to know vastly more about political issues in Israel than virtually any Israeli. I think I have proven that here.

        “if they agree to a two-state solution so be it.”

        “They” (meaning the Israeli people) don’t agree, because Israel is not a democratic republic. Israel is a quasi-Bolshevik oligarchy, as it lacks a constitution and the direct election of legislators to geographically defined districts. With no branch of government subject to the popular will, Israel cannot be a democratic republic.

        Anyway, I don’t give a damn what a political clique or a mass public decides regarding the Land. Neither of them has any moral right to dispose of Jewish land. That I can’t do anything about it is irrelevant.

        “Expelling muslims? Much as I’d like to see it myself,”

        FK lies. He has already made clear that he would not like to see this.

        “I know its [sic] moronic even to suggest that as a solution.”

        Here FK grudgingly admits that while an argument is required, none will be provided.

        “What about the Druze? Wanna expel them too?”

        As the Druze do not wage war against Jews on Jewish land, they should not be expelled.

        “Do you know how sick and tired Israelis are of constantly fighting?”

        Israelis are not “constantly fighting.” They are play acting. When the IDF bombs empty fields that held launchers, they are not fighting anyone.

        “It requires so much blood and treasure.”

        Yes, because “they” do not want to fight the enemy–just like you.

        “Sure Israel has to fight at times, but it can also live with the muslims in the right circumstances. Jeez you are a jackass.”

        FK is such a moron. He really thinks that “the right circumstances” could ever occur where Jews could live with Muslims? How can anyone be regular here and say such crap? I’d say that I did not think a Jew could be so stupid, but we all know better.

        skzion on October 11, 2012 at 7:07 pm

          I was wrong. You’re not a moron. You are just delusional and a chickenhawk. You’ve never sacrificed anything apparently, and then you quote the torah as if it applies to the modern Israeli state. When ALL the orthodox Jews in Israel start serving in the IDF, and bearing the burdens of a free, democratic society, (including not being parasites of the State) I’m sure you’ll be there right along side of them. NOT. Until then, you simply want others to sacrifice and die for your idiotic clansmen. Furthermore, don’t lecture me about halachic law or quote torah verse you fvcking hypocrite.

          FrenchKiss on October 12, 2012 at 5:54 pm

          “I was wrong. You’re not a moron. You are just delusional and a chickenhawk” sez FrenchKiss.

          Oh my. Sometimes a single usage clarifies the worldview of the person writing. “Chickenhawk” is such a usage, as it is used exclusively by liberals. No wonder FK has such a passionate devotion to Mittens: he recognizes a kindred spirit.

          However, I was not wrong about FK: he is definitely a moron. Notice how he has failed to respond to any of my arguments. He just flings the insults that have unmasked him.

          “and then you quote the torah as if it applies to the modern Israeli state.”

          Notice that FK, who is very diligent in demanding that the poster “Dad” capitalize “mormon,” does not capitalize “Torah.” Hm. I agree that the modern Israeli state has little to do with Torah … I just suggest that Jews have no transcendent moral claim to Eretz Israel absent Torah.

          “When ALL the orthodox Jews in Israel start serving in the IDF, and bearing the burdens of a free, democratic society, (including not being parasites of the State)”

          LOL! “Parasites” is an anti-Semitic inflected term. Another telling usage by our Frenchy. He’s mainly stupid, though, because Israel is not “a free, democratic society” as I have already explained. In addition, Torah does not blindly defer to “democracy” anyway. Indeed, Frenchy’s ignorance is stupendous because he doesn’t even realize that ALL leftists do not serve in the IDF. In fact, a substantial number of leftists in Israel manage to avoid service.

          “you simply want others to sacrifice and die for your idiotic clansmen.”

          Ah! So Jews who think that Israel really ought be a bit more Jewish are KKK?

          “Furthermore, don’t lecture me about halachic law or quote torah verse you fvcking hypocrite.”

          Potty mouth! You bet I’ll lecture you, you filthy anti-Jew. Could you be stupid enough to believe that a gay Jew is not obligated to fulfill the mitzvot that he can fulfill, even if he cannot fulfill all of them? Of course you could be stupid enough.

          skzion on October 14, 2012 at 12:21 am

    You mean American Israelis who really have no legal right to vote in the US? Let me clue you folks in. As soon as REAL Israelis hear he’s for a two state solution, they say, “NO WAY! He’s just as bad as Obama.”

    Another clue in: THE ABSENTEE BALLOT IS FOR PEOPLE WHO MAINTAIN A PRIMARY ADDRESS IN THE US. Once you give that up, you are not allowed to vote absentee. If you are military, your assignment is considered an exception. EX-PATS who no longer have a valid voter registration cannot ask for an absentee ballot for an address that is now occupied by someone else.

    Italkit on October 12, 2012 at 4:37 am

And let me just add, it’s the 78+% of us Jews who voted and will still vote for BHO that I’m peeved at – no one else, and certainly not a Romney supporter.

True Jew on October 11, 2012 at 12:09 pm

Update on golf.
Tiger Woods beats the best golfer.No wonder black Muslim must have won in Muslim country like Turkey…

temida/patriot on October 11, 2012 at 12:45 pm

If Israel’s leaders cared about Jews, they would have expelled or killed the Muslims squatting there…

skzion,

Spoken like a True Nazi, congrats moron. If muslims can’t live in Israel (huh?), then, I guess Jews can’t live in Germany or the US. The fact of the matter is, muslims are fighting for the Jewish State. What are YOU doing?

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4291036,00.html

True Jew on October 11, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    This ^ is correct.

    FrenchKiss on October 11, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    The inaptly named True Jew sez:

    “skzion,

    Spoken like a True Nazi, congrats moron.”

    Poor True Jew sounds like an Israeli leftist (and quotes one of the leftist rags as well). It’s all “Nazi this” and “moron” that. What I said to Frenchy (October 11, 2012 at 6:16 pm) applies to TJ as well.

    “If muslims can’t live in Israel (huh?), then, I guess Jews can’t live in Germany or the US.”

    It is hilarious how a so-called True Jew never seems to apply Halacha as a moral system. Muslims cannot live in Israel because they have created a situation of milchemet mitzvah, which compels Jews to get rid of them. This Torah-based solution is not only moral, but it is practical. The overwhelming reason Jews are dying in Eretz Israel is because there are Muslims living there.

    But even from a non-Torah perspective, TJ has spouted nonsense. Jews do not try to seize all of America, deny that America is a lawful state, blow up Americans, and so forth. The Muslims of Eretz Israel do all of these things. Duh.

    “The fact of the matter is, muslims are fighting for the Jewish State. What are YOU doing?”

    Overwhelmingly, Muslims are fighting against the Jewish state. Only a moron would not known what it means when “Israeli Arabs” call themselves “Palestinians.” The only partial exception consists of some Bedouins, and they are seizing Jewish land and creating massive encampments.

    skzion on October 11, 2012 at 6:32 pm

      sk, you say we travel in narrow circles but then why are you factually wrong about muslims in the IDF? These are NOT Bedouin on which you are accurate. There are more and more Israeli Arabs joining the IDF, maybe they are fighting against us via taqqiya but more likely they know they’ve got a better deal with us than with the MB. They can’t say that and even just by serving, they put their lives on the line with the more fanatical of their brethren. They are practicing a form of taqqiya within in their community.

      Italkit on October 12, 2012 at 4:30 am

        and I will add that I don’t trust them. I’m just reporting the facts. Time will tell which side they’re really on.

        Italkit on October 12, 2012 at 4:40 am

        I am not “factually wrong” about the so-called Israeli Arabs. They are NOT fighting for Israel–they are infiltrating the IDF, as you in fact seem to suspect. And frankly, given that the “Israeli Arabs” used to have a super tiny number of IDF positions, ANY increase will be a big relative percent increase. If you have five in the IDF, adding one more is a 20% increase.

        skzion on October 12, 2012 at 9:42 am

And, BTW, while Arab muslims are fighting for Israel, MANY religious Jews opt of their military duty (don’t axe me why)…

Puke!

True Jew on October 11, 2012 at 12:50 pm

Romney is a mormon. What does that mean? It means at the core of his religious philosophy, he believes the same thing that muslims believe with a startling exception. Rather than the one god muslims proclaim in error and contradistinction to the Jewish Writings, the Tanakh, Romney literally believes in billions of gods of which he is to become one. Romney believes in a god of this earth, as opposed to gods of any other planet such as the mythical planet Kolob. But the foregoing are differences, and not similarities with muslims.
The thing that Romney believes in agreement with muslims, is that Jesus was just a man. His elevation of status according to mormonism has changed, but nonetheless, it is the mormon belief that the origins of Jesus are not dissimilar than those of any other of us. The mormon church teaches we all pre-existed as spirit beings, placed in human bodies, to mature from that point to become gods. In effect, not only do they believe Jesus was just a man, but destined to become a god even as they believe we are.
This is far removed from orthodox Christianity and indeed who the anticipated Redeemer of Israel shall be revealed to be.
Why is this important? Because, as Jesus said when speaking to the pharisees, “You are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do”. The whole of the effort of the prince of this world, is to destroy Israel by all means available. The most ignorant Jew can easily grasp should there be no Israel, there shall be no need for a Savior to return to save them. The logic escapes many persons but is founded in the long train of abuses against the children of Israel that continues yet today.
America is under judgement. A corrupt people may only install as a national leader, persons similarly corrupt. It is proclaimed in the Scriptures, “For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up , that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth”. When the people of any nation refuse to honor the Creator of the whole earth, and indeed the builder of all things that were ever made, then no recourse exists than judge. The Scripture tells us there is only one righteous judge.
Deborah, you have a glorious and honorable name. Your web site has provoked many persons to investigate further the errors that presently confront us. As a Jew, you have the distinction of possessing the “Oracles” of God through which we are informed of the redemption of as many as believe in the Messiah, “God with us”.
The other Jesus of the muslim and the mormon, and indeed gods which we otherwise have not known be they stick or stone or any other men may think of themselves, cannot save.
Our inalienable rights as Americans do not issue from any edict of man but are eternal, applicable through all time, and are those which alone may produce the happiness spoken of in our National Document, that which comes from Life and Liberty, and duty to both God and man. Obediance.
In your Oracles, the words yet remain, “The Lord will not hold him guiltless who taketh his name in vain”.
I believe my remarks shall resonate with a larger body of your subscribers than you or others may realize.
Be sure your works are founded indeed in the God of Israel.
He alone knows the heart of man.
Be assured of my fond affection.
Our judges are indeed here.
They cry out for the death of Israel and they may not be appeased, liars and murderers all.

Dad on October 11, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    Romney’s religion is irrelevent. He is a Mormon. Be respectful and capitalize the first “M”.

    FrenchKiss on October 11, 2012 at 2:08 pm

      Dad. FK wants to point out that religion is irrelevant. Apparently, he thinks that Islam is irrelevant too.

      skzion on October 11, 2012 at 11:52 pm

      But it’s not, FK. Dad is correct about what mormons believe and what you seem to miss is the GLOBAL and militantly evangelical mission they all believe they are on. It’s integral and required for them to achieve divinity. With his aspirations of becoming POTUS I think Romney may have aspirations to be the “god of gods.” After all, if he can, as POTUS, unite the World economically and militarily and then add religiously to that once it’s been achieved, he fits the description of Armilus (antichrist) to a tee. This is why I’m not 100% convinced that Obama is that man. Romney could do it in the next year, Obama would still need some time to reveal his Islam and he won’t do that until more Nations are subjugated.

      Italkit on October 12, 2012 at 4:48 am

Yes, let us keep infighting and belittling Obama’s opponent so that he cannot possibly win while we wait for the mythical, perfect, future candidate that skzion longs for. The strategy of waiting for the imaginary candidate that “we” deserve, whining that they have not gotten here yet, and trying to insult people who disagree with you is a much better idea than trying to take action, in this election. Mr. Romney’s policies overall appear to be far more palatable than Mr. Obama’s are.

KJ on October 11, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    KJ,

    Remarks like that may get a response from FK. I will try and be a little more direct. Say what you will all nations are to come against Israel. It is in Deborah’s Book. “I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with (punish) them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, AND PARTED MY LAND .
    Now, you are free to your remarks, even as I am free to not capitalize mormon. You err because you remark about the “imaginary candidate”. This is even more disrespectful than my alledged wrongdoing. As they say, a little poison is yet poison. The recommendation to just vote, irregardless should it be libertarian, or none of the above is equally irresponsible. Again, you will have the candidate in office, not of your choosing but much to most peoples chagrin, God’s man of the hour, should it be Romney or Obama.
    Deborah is well able to inform you that the way God has determined He may be known, is because He has said He will tell you things even before they have entered your heart, before you have known them, and then He will bring it to pass. That is how all of us are to know.
    Far from being apathetic, if the blind lead the blind, they both shall fall into the ditch. It is yet the same today, as when Jesus uttered those very appropriate words.
    Truthfully, there is a gross disrespect for the Creator of all things, the very superintending hand that was looked to in the birthing of this nation. You are just another example.

    Dad on October 11, 2012 at 4:24 pm

      You know, Dad, I find myself enjoying your short essays here.

      skzion on October 11, 2012 at 7:20 pm

        Me too!

        Italkit on October 12, 2012 at 4:49 am

    KJ sez:

    “Yes, let us keep infighting and belittling Obama’s opponent so that he cannot possibly win while we wait for the mythical, perfect, future candidate that skzion longs for.”

    Can this guy even read? Note what I said before:

    “How many crappy presidential terms must elapse before we get a Republican candidate who is moderately conservative economically and satisfacory on immigration and Islam? I’m not demanding that much.”

    Is KJ’s IQ so low that he cannot see that I demand no perfect candidate? Or is he so dishonest that, while understanding this, he lies about it?

    skzion on October 11, 2012 at 7:26 pm

To all of those saying that they won’t vote: YOU ARE MORONS!
If you cannot bring yourself to vote for Romney, vote for the LIberatarian, or do a write in vote, even “none of the above.” At least that way you are registering your disapproval. Not voting demonstrates your apathy.

A.Mark Ratner on October 11, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    Rat, that was very eloquent.

    skzion on October 11, 2012 at 7:08 pm

And this surprises you because….? I detest BHO, but the GOP is the party of Sununu, Issa and Norquist, who were likely responsible for Romney’s about-face on Palestine. Ask youself this question: If you were working on a long-range plan to turn the constitutional republic of the USA into an Islamic Republic, using its own freedoms and systems to accomplish your goal without violence, would you concentrate all of your resources into one of the two main politicial parties, and hope that you picked the right one, or would you infiltrate both parties, so that your influence would grow no matter which party won elections?

Phil on October 11, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    Phil, don’t make them think.

    skzion on October 11, 2012 at 11:34 pm

      Have no fear, sk, the sheeple are afraid of people like Phil BECAUSE he dos make them think. They go their merry ways, calling him a crank and “conspiracy whacko.” A voice crying in the wilderness.

      Italkit on October 12, 2012 at 4:53 am

In my reply to KJ above, be advised, I am not fighting anyone. Our rights, the right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of happiness, are not derived from any act of man. We can only acquiescse to the deliberate ordination of God that we humble ourselves.
Our nations founders in many respects did that. Look atnot only the Revolutionary War, but the war to follow, the Civil War.
Lincoln was never a member of an established orthodox church, but one thing Lincoln never did was to demean either religion in general, or the Christian religion in particular. Even as he was ridiculed for being a mocker and a scorner, he was at the same time failed for having a “proness” for quoting Scripture. Lincoln could just not reconcile that the scriptural injunction of man eating bread by the sweat of his brow, should be thought to incorporate the eating of one’s bread by the sweat of the brow of another under the most demeaning and humiliating service of the human condition.
It is interesting to know that Lincoln for all that has been said either for or against him, was described as a “Christ in miniature”. He is perhaps our most revered President, indeed, an honor conferred upon him and not one of self agrandizement we see so much of today.
I am not opposed to leaders, nor am I opposed to the political process.

Dad on October 11, 2012 at 4:39 pm

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