October 14, 2012, - 1:19 pm

Kevin Hermening: Youngest U.S. Hostage, Marine Guard @ Iranian Embassy Remembers

By Debbie Schlussel

Kevin Hermening was the youngest of the 52 Americans taken hostage in 1979 at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and held for 444 days by Shi’ite Muslims in Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini’s revolution. Just 20 years old at the time, he was a Marine Sergeant. assigned to guard the embassy. Kevin was not on duty that day, but he was in the embassy and was taken by the Islamic thugs. (Thirteen women and Blacks were also taken, but they were released early on, because the Iranians said these minorities were “sympathetic” to the Shi’ite revolution. Another hostage was released after he became very sick. But others who got sick weren’t so lucky.)


I’ve been acquainted with Kevin Hermening since I was in college, when he was running as a Republican for the U.S. Congress from his native Wisconsin against liberal Democrat then-Congressman David Obey. I was a summer intern for NCPAC–the National Conservative Political Action Committee–which was then the largest conservative PAC in the U.S. and ran a week-long candidate training school for Kevin and a few other fellow conservative Congressional candidates. Kevin, a tremendous patriot, had all the positive attributes–movie star good looks, a brilliant mind, an articulate speaking style, conservative principles, and the charisma to be a star. And he was and is an all-around mensch. Sadly, the liberal Obey was re-elected. Kevin would have been a great Congressman and probably more. Today, Kevin Hermening is a successful financial adviser and CEO of Hermening Financial Group in Wausau, Wisconsin. I called him after seeing “Argo” (read my review) to get his thoughts and impressions on some of what I saw in the movie (he hasn’t seen the movie yet and has promised to give me his review after he sees it). And he recounted his days in captivity.

Kevin told me that while he was not scheduled to guard the embassy on that fateful day in 1979, he happened to be in the embassy because he was coordinating plans. His apartment, while not on the embassy compound, was right behind it. Had he not been at the embassy, he might have escaped, as the six Americans portrayed in “Argo” did. But he was not so lucky. In the movie, the compound, which contained several buildings including the U.S. Ambassador’s residence, doesn’t appear as large as it was in real life. Kevin said the embassy was a series of buildings on 26 sprawling acres. He said the main building had a large basement, as is depicted in the film. Kevin said that there were never any Marines assigned to guard the outside of the building. They were only on the inside.


There were two U.S. citizens taken hostage who were not diplomats. They just happened to be at the embassy that day. One was a businessman and the other was a teacher, who arrived to pick up records from the American School in Iran, which had been closed. Kevin told me that the teacher, William Keough, Jr., lost 200 pounds while in captivity. He became extremely sick and weak, but the Iranians refused to let him see a physician or be treated in any way. Keough died in November 1985, less than five years after he was released to freedom. And one wonders how much the Iranian captivity shortened his lifespan. Likely by a lot. These things don’t occur in a vacuum.

And the deaths of so many of the former hostages is yet another reason I’m glad Ben Affleck made “Argo,” even if it has his far-left, anti-American politics slapped on at the beginning. Kevin tells me that of the 52 hostages, 15 have passed away. They are getting older, and many Americans have forgotten what happened, even with the recent attacks on U.S. Embassies around the Islamic world and the murders of four, including the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, at the Benghazi consulate. Kevin tells me that the recent attacks on the embassies make him especially upset because they remind him of what happened to him and he feels like it is happening all over again. And it is. Islamic jihadists don’t just stop. They rest and reload. There is no excuse for not heavily securing our embassies now, especially in the Muslim world. (And as I’ve said previously on this site, I wouldn’t even have embassies in any of these countries, since the only purpose is to pander and offer lucre and visas to America to these savages.) As Kevin noted, prior to his captivity at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran at the hands of Muslim revolutionaries, there was no such televised attack or siege by Muslims against Americans (on which Ted Koppel built a show, “Nightline,” and a decades long career of fame in far-left urinalism, er . . . “journalism”). He wonders what the excuse is now regarding embassy security, since we’ve known better for several decades since the Iranian siege.

I believe that, today, the Iranians would not have allowed the American hostages to survive. They would have murdered them all. And I asked Kevin what he thinks. He agreed that this is the likely scenario, just like what happened with the four men murdered at the Benghazi consulate. There is a very harrowing scene in “Argo,” in which some of the American hostages are taken to a basement room, where they are blindfolded and lined up in front of Iranians with guns. The Iranians begin shooting, and the hostages believe they are being killed. But it was a form of psychological torture, as there were no bullets. Kevin said that scene is very real. He lived it. While the movie shows a few hostages being lined up for this, Kevin said the Iranian Muslims did this to all 52 hostages.

“This was the first time the U.S. was seen as a paper tiger in the Middle East. Neither blood nor treasure has ever been extracted by the Iranians [for taking the Americans hostage],” Kevin told me. And, sadly, we’ve continued to play paper tiger ever since, whether it’s the attacks on our embassy and Marines in Beirut or the 9/11 attacks. We continue to pander to Muslims here and abroad no matter what they do to us.

And there’s another thing that most Americans don’t know about the terms of the release of the American hostages, as negotiated by the Carter Administration. The Algiers Accords, which secured the hostages’ release, was a horribly one-sided agreement. The agreement gave the Iranians about $9.1 billion, most of that in gold bullion. It included a formal U.S. apology to Iran for alleged U.S. involvement in Iran from 1955 to the date the Shah was deposed. It allowed financial claims against Iran only by corporations, but not by American citizens. Kevin’s rights against Iran were illegally signed away by Jimmy Carter and his minions while Kevin was still held in captivity by Shi’ite Muslims. A bill in Congress, HR 5796, seeks to change all of that. But it hasn’t moved much.

And Kevin and many of the other hostages are challenging this in the courts. They are plaintiffs in lawsuits against the Iran. And each time they make any headway in court, lawyers from the State Department from every Presidential administration (whether it’s Obama, Bush, Clinton, and the other Bush) come to court to oppose these men who served America and had over a year of their lives taken from them by Iranian Muslims.

“I have a great life,” Kevin told me. “I have a beautiful wife and two daughters, and I’ve built a successful business. This isn’t about the money. It never was. It’s about principle. It’s about taking Iran to task for what it did to us, what it did to America.”

Sadly, Iran has never paid. And it has the last laugh as the government–the so-called leader of the free world, which Kevin gave a good deal of his life to serve and protect–opposes his right to redress in American courts.

Oh, and one other thing that Jimmy Carter negotiated away: the Algiers Accords included U.S. agreement never again to “interfere” in the affairs of Iran. What does this mean when it comes to Iran’s nuclear weapons in development?

Frankly, the failing U.S. sanctions against Iran should be evidence that the whole agreement is null and void. The hostages ought to get their due. Now, before they pass away. In his 50s, Kevin Hermening is the youngest of them.

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Debbie, is Kevin wise on Islam, or is he one of those who thinks that Islam is great, but people like Iran’s mullahs are an aberration? This is one thing I’ve noticed in most people, including those seemingly wise to the issue.

One consequence of being a paper tiger is that to assert one’s position, the day will come when the US will be forced to do something like using nukes against a Muslim country to demonstrate that it is serious about them. If it is. Or rather, when.

I: He’s 100% wise on the issue. Doesn’t think it’s an aberration in any way, shape, or form. DS

Infidel on October 14, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    Nearly a generation after the events in Iran, we have a TV show that presents the worst enemy of America isn’t Islam, its our country at war with it.

    The sad is truth is many of our elites in Hollywood and beyond, hate America more than they hate our enemies. That’s the cultural atmosphere Republican candidates swim in – they don’t even have the cojones to denounce, even if its only lip service!

    We’re nowhere near the point of using nuclear weapons against a barbaric enemy like Islam but when the popular culture says we are more depraved than them (even though that is a complete falsehood) we still don’t know how to fight evil.

    And that is why we keep on losing and our enemies keep on laughing at us.

    NormanF on October 14, 2012 at 2:56 pm

Debbie,

As soon as I read your post,one of my first thoughts was about the scumbag family members of the “All American Muslim” reality show who said that Ayatollah Khomeini inspired them to become more devout Muslims.

When you figure that occupying our embassy and holding our hostages is an act of war which Iran has never renounced,anyone from that family whose an American citizen, and supports Khomeini, is committing treason. If they’re not American citizens,they should have their asses deported.

Scott on October 14, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    Scott, I would like to add to your thoughts on that crap show “All American Moooooooooooslim” that at the time of the “controversy” many dopes on the left (who know NOTHING about Islam even 11 years after 9/11) were chagrinned by those of us who DO understand Islam and spoke the truth.

    The same, old, sad refrain was “Waaaaaah. You’re mean and Islamophobic. Waaaaaaah, you’re painting all Moooooooslims with the same brush. Waaaaaah, you’re racist (sic) and a bigot”. And that was just from the dhimmis who actually wrote articles in the Hezbollah-lovers defense.

    On that soiled, reused toilet paper of a site (TDB) I was told “dhimmi” was hate speech and soon my account was vapourised.

    We haven’t even gotten to the Moooooslim pigs and we have to fight off the dopey know-nothing dhimmis tooth and nail.

    It’s annoying to no end!

    I hope Mr. Hermening and all his fellow brothers in arms get what they rightfully deserve. It was nauseating to read of the State Dept. of USA working against them.

    Skunky on October 14, 2012 at 7:17 pm

we should have destroyed pisslam right after ww11 instead of arming these sud-humas.we should do a number on them like the poles and austrians did to them at the gates of vienna on sept.11 1683.sooner or later we will have to kill the ragheads or they will kill us.carter was always in the pocket of the ragheads and he still is.

bruce on October 14, 2012 at 2:29 pm

Debbie,

And the idiotic and graceless Hillary Clinton says we must support the Islamic despotisms that have killed Americans because such acts in their lands were only the work of a minority.

Yeah,sure – let her keep on telling herself that. She probably believes what happened in Benghazi is all our fault. And she is not alone in that view.

Things are not going to get better any time soon. And the Keven Hermenings and other Americans will continue to pay the price because their fellow Americans refuse to see Islam for what it was, is and will be in the future.

NormanF on October 14, 2012 at 2:30 pm

Debbie:
Nice work on this story.
I am honored and privileged to have you write it.

The following will help your readers…from an interview in 2011…

Hermening also helps kids around the country prepare presentations for National History Day, an academic competition, and is working with 16 of them this year.

In his communications with them he doesn’t mince words about the crisis.

“Since the United States did not respond with military action, our nation was seen (by Iran, and most other nations, especially in the Middle East) as a paper tiger,” he wrote to one girl from Kutztown, Pa., recently.

“Negotiation is very important, but it requires two honest brokers; Iran has never been one, even now. And so it makes our government look ridiculous, whether it was negotiating for the release of the 52 Americans held hostage in Iran from 1979-1981, or attempting to get Iran to end its current pursuit of nuclear weapons. Peace is best achieved from a position of strength and, with regard to Iran, we most frequently find ourselves in a position of weakness.

Kevin Hermening on October 14, 2012 at 3:43 pm

Valuable post, Debbie. Thanks.

skzion on October 14, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    Yes, I agree sk. Some of the things Debbie presents, i.e. The Algiers Accords are shocking in their details. I think most of us who were busy with careers and families in 1980 probably missed that if we were ever informed. I believe the Embassies should be shut down as well. If US businesses want to operate there, heavily sanction them. But we know that since the CIA installed the Shah so the US could have an unlimited source of oil, it’s not going to happen anywhere the US can profit. The Shah was their man, they should have crushed the Revolution without question.

    Italkit on October 15, 2012 at 3:37 am

Iran and the “Arab Spring” are America’s Stockholm Syndrome.

Don’t hostages generally end up take the side of their captors? I believe that’s what happened to most of the Iran hostages. No, Debbie – I wouldn’t waste your sympathy and mine on them.

And America was taken hostage too and it shows up in our willingness to see those who have terrorized, abused and murdered fellow Americans in a good light.

NormanF on October 14, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    NormanF…
    That was humorous.
    Kevin

    Kevin Hermening on October 14, 2012 at 4:05 pm

      Mr. Hermening:

      I just now saw your response to Norman’s comment.

      Wow!

      Is that really YOU?

      In the photograph with President Reagan, what is that you’re holding in your hand?

      Were you awarded a decoration?

      I’m glad you made it out alive, and I’m glad your life has turned out so well.

      By the way, since you’re a Marine, you’ll probably be amused to learn that I was drafted into the United States Army after having been denied enlistment in the United States Marine Corps.

      But, as you know, I’m in good company, because America’s most decorated hero in history, Audie Murphy, also joined the Army after being rejected by the Marines.

      That’s why one of my favorite movies is, “BABY BLUE MARINE”, made in 1976, starring Jan-Michael Vincent.

      Have you seen that movie?

      For some reason, the DVD is not available in any stores or web sites.

      I was fortunate enough to get a copy that some guy had recorded from a TV broadcast on the ENCORE LOVE cable television channel.

      Thank you.

      John Robert Mallernee
      Armed Forces Retirement Home
      Gulfport, Mississippi 39507

      John Robert Mallernee on October 14, 2012 at 4:39 pm

      Mr. Hermening, Et Alii:

      Lo, and behold, you won’t BELIEVE my luck!

      I just now found the complete movie (in ten parts), “BABY BLUE MARINE”, posted at the YOU TUBE web site.

      Some guy put it there just a few months ago.

      So, I’ve embedded it on my own personal web site, “OUR ETERNAL STRUGGLE”.

      The URL for my web site is:

      http://writesong.blogspot.com/

      Enjoy watching one of my favorite movies!

      “Semper Fidelis”!

      Thank you.

      John Robert Mallernee
      Armed Forces Retirement Home
      Gulfport, Mississippi 39507

      John Robert Mallernee on October 14, 2012 at 6:28 pm

      I wasn’t kidding – when human beings become dependent upon others for their survival, there develops a certain amount of identification with them.

      Something that can lead to lethal results – such as in the three dead Americans in Libya. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not Kevin, there is a good deal of truth to my observation about the hostages and our condition as a nation.

      How you explain the Algiers Agreement Debbie referenced in her post, hmm? What happened to people to a bank in Sweden in 1973 happened to us, too.

      There are a few hostages like you who have come out of it well-adjusted and are still free. There are others who were not so fortunate. And in the end as we both know, freedom is really a state of mind.

      That’s brings us back to something Debbie pointed out today: who really won – the Iranians or the Americans? History says they did because we didn’t treat them as terrorists and kidnappers of our people as we should have done in the first place – in fact just the exact opposite. In the end, this country didn’t stand tall in this saga. We just like to believe we did when they came home.

      The truth we lost on many fronts and the damage has still not been redressed to this very day.

      NormanF on October 14, 2012 at 8:35 pm

        Dude, Norman! Sometimes you’re brilliant but then there are times…
        Not only is Debbie honoring a great man in this column, the man himself is here commenting. That was mega-chutzpah to smack him in the face like that. I wonder what you’d have done in his situation. Are you projecting?

        Italkit on October 15, 2012 at 3:42 am

          I wrote the truth!

          Iran went on to murder 300 Americans in Beirut and it tortured and murdered the CIA station chief there – later, it murdered Robert Dean Stethem and took still more American hostages.

          And it has actively subverted pro-American regimes around the Middle East.

          America’s response to Iranian belligerence and aggression was hoping the Islamic regime would grow mellow with time. That has happened.

          Our future cannot rest on wishful thinking. This is a regime that has been at war with us ever since it seized power. Being nice to it hasn’t made it give its hatred of the US.

          If you can’t or won’t see the truth – then blaming the messenger, namely me – isn’t going to change it.

          NormanF on October 15, 2012 at 6:10 am

          I wrote the truth!

          Iran went on to murder 300 Americans in Beirut and it tortured and murdered the CIA station chief there – later, it murdered Robert Dean Stethem and took still more American hostages.

          And it has actively subverted pro-American regimes around the Middle East.

          America’s response to Iranian belligerence and aggression was hoping the Islamic regime would grow mellow with time. That has happened.

          Our future cannot rest on wishful thinking. This is a regime that has been at war with us ever since it seized power. Being nice to it hasn’t made it give up its hatred of the US.

          If you can’t or won’t see the truth – then blaming the messenger, namely me – isn’t going to change it.

          NormanF on October 15, 2012 at 6:12 am

      Yaa, Kevin. I’m laughing with you, Haha. What a slap in your face but you’re man enough to ignore the Normans of this World. Mazel Tov.

      Italkit on October 15, 2012 at 3:39 am

This was great article, and I’m sure most of us here are glad that you contacted Kevin Hermening for his insights, and presented them here. I look forward to a follow-up article after Kevin has had an opportunity to see the movie “Argo” and share his thoughts with you.

It seems as though the makers of this movie, however, did NOT contact Kevin as part of the production. The producers should certainly have contacted him–as you have done–and should have even engaged him as a consultant, if only to assist with the production authenticity, let alone for his insights into the experience and the times.

Ralph Adamo on October 14, 2012 at 7:35 pm

There was still some residual fear of the United States in Iran in 1979. That probably saved the lives of those hostages. Debbie and Kevin are probably correct in assuming that a replay of that event today would have left no surviving hostages. Even though an ambassador and other personnel were murdered in Libya(which was sorse than what happened in Iran), the Obama Administration has not shown even a fraction of the concern that the Carter Administration did so many years ago. Instead, we get Vice President Biden doing an imitation of a mental breakdown or demonic possession. It is hard to tell which. Libya Massacre(ho, ho, grin). Actually, I think even Captain Howdy would have been more tactful there.

Worry01 on October 14, 2012 at 11:01 pm

Debbie I never understood these local financial services firms. There are so many of them all over but who needs them? Do the guys who run them really know more than any other dart thrower what the markets will do? Isn’t it safer to get advice from a large firm as opposed to a self proclaimed expert? I just keep my money at a few well known places with good websites. The local geniuses make a living off people who don’t understand much, IMHO. Also DS I would be happy to advise you on your financial needs, as I have attended the acclaimed Jewish Guy School of Life. The first rule is to not give your money to anyone who claims they know a way to make more money or who offer advice you can get for free from me or in a $3 magazine.

A1 on October 15, 2012 at 1:48 am

A1, are you even capable of staying on topic? In fact, do you realize that anyone else exists?

I’m not even sure you think Debbie exists, as your behavior is reprehensible that it can best be seen as someone talking to a TV set.

skzion on October 15, 2012 at 2:29 am

    Remember, you are dealing with a bottle of expired steak sauce. It went rancid long ago.

    Worry01 on October 15, 2012 at 3:19 am

      Haha! Good one Worry and sk, right on.

      A1 see my comments to NormanF. Then apply to self.

      Italkit on October 15, 2012 at 3:45 am

What about the overthrowing of the democratically elected leader that was instigated by the US government from that same embassy a few years earlier? It’s fact and related to the hostage crisis.
What if the Iranians do not want to build a bomb like they say they won’t, and the International Atomic Energy Agency confirms, and the US just kills hundreds of thousands of INNOCENT people?
Where is your christianity? Your hypocrisy and ignorance about a complex matter is astounding.

Marc on October 15, 2012 at 4:10 am

    Marc, what are you rambling about? You should ask the Iranian government such questions. Also, the interesting thing about those Iranian protests in 2009 was the fact that there were virtually no voices raised against Iran’s nuclear program. In addition, the demands that were being made by this almost entirely urban and middle class protest over three years ago involved internal social policy, and not Iran’s foreign policy. So, in reality your “what if” premise has no real relationship to the actual situation. Finally, your entire post looks more like a very poor way to distract people from the actual article thread Debbie started.

    In bringing up Christianity, you forget the Just War Doctrine: http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/just+war+theory

    The Iranian Hostage Crisis, the assisting with the assisting of its proxies in Lebanon, and so many other wonderful things would have satisfied the criteria for an armed attack against it. As I said at the beginning, address the Iranian government, since it is the party that is bringing this whole matter of its nuclear program to a boiling point. No country goes to such lengths to pursue electrical power generation. Iran is actually awash in oil and gas, and nuclear power generation is an expensive white elephant for them. In fact, the Iranian government has actually sacrificed the exploration for further fossil fuel resources by pursuing its nuclear program in opposition to IAEA demands for proper inspections and diversion safeguards. Iran and apparently a large portion of its population is quite happy with its barely disguised nuclear arms program. If the people pursue evil in accord with their rulers, why should they be spared the penalty for their sins?

    Worry01 on October 15, 2012 at 1:01 pm

      Skunky, yet another brain-eating zombie will starve after depending on Marc for a meal.

      Marc, you presume that the US has violated some version of the Star Trek Prime Directive, in that it has interfered with the nascent democratic passions of Iranians, thus producing what we see in today’s Iran. This is nonsense.

      Muslims have no urge to be governed by Western-style systems, as such systems violate Islamic principles. It doesn’t matter, then, whether there was an election or a coup: the ultimate goal of Muslims is an Islamic government that shreds minority rights and individual dignity. There were no “democratic elections.”

      Muslims will always be savage peoples because Islam is a savage ideology. That is why the only way to deal with Muslims is to convert them to a real religion. Islam deserves the same respect that Nazism gets.

      No go away and ponder these things.

      (copied from skzion on October 15, 2012 at 12:01 am)

      skzion on October 15, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    A few years earlier, like say 1975? Iran was not a democratic regime then. What are you talking about? It was a monarchy then that was friendly to the West. Also, what does that have to do with a theocratic regime’s using its militants to take over the U.S. Embassy in 1979? That government eliminated any non-Islamic opposition early on. Hard to see a causal connection there really.

    Worry01 on October 17, 2012 at 7:52 am

Norman, there’s a time and a place for everything, even the truth and this wasn’t the place or the time for that particular truth.

Italkit on October 15, 2012 at 7:54 am

    I did bring it up….

    Then again a lot of people are in denial – none to the good.

    That’s why we can’t bring ourselves to shut down Muslim car dealerships in the country who finance Hezbollah who in turn finance Iran.

    You’d have to be blind to miss all the dots! Again, America is not serious about defeating a regime that calls for the destruction of our country.

    And Israel, too – where your leaders seem content with grandstanding speeches and wringing their hands rather than actually doing anything to stop Iran!

    NormanF on October 15, 2012 at 7:21 pm

      Iran is not going to be stopped by the hand of man, Norman, only by Hashem and his Anointed One.

      Italkit on October 16, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    Italkit, I think you misunderstood what Norman was saying.

    skzion on October 15, 2012 at 10:39 pm

      Perhaps I did, sk.

      Italkit on October 16, 2012 at 2:17 pm

Posted on my Facebook page (with attribution) November 4th is coming. Are we going to see a bigger and better Benghazi.

bobguzzardi on October 15, 2012 at 9:45 am

Debbie,

It is outstanding when you write about history.

In this case having one of the captured “come alive” for us is really special.

As usual great reporting work on your part.

Panhandle on October 15, 2012 at 11:03 am

OT Deb -

It seems that President Dearest’s adopted “hometown” has had it’s first ROP honor-killing:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-man-charged-in-shooting-death-of-younger-sister-on-nw-side-20121014,0,3827189.story

Nick Fury on October 15, 2012 at 12:32 pm

..more OT:

the NFL team of President Jarrett’s ‘hometown’ did this, surprisingly:

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-10-14/news/chi-religious-leaders-forge-gameplan-at-bears-practice-site-20121014_1_religious-leaders-contraceptive-mandate-chicago-bears

Nick Fury on October 15, 2012 at 2:48 pm

Hidden behind the Iranian Ayatollahs, Mullahs, and Imams is the powerful money class. They run Iran and Islam is just a facade to subjugate the masses to obedience. Jews will soon return to Iran along with their doctors, lawyers and businessmen. The Iranian elite will be outbid and go bankrupt, but they realize a new golden era of Jewry is coming and is unstoppable.

chowching on October 15, 2012 at 6:28 pm

I believe the statement “gave the Iranians about $9.1 billion” should read “returned frozen Iranian assets as part of the hostage release agreement”. I beleive the US is still in possesion of some assets from that time period. Please feel free to correct me. ThX for the article.

Visteo on October 16, 2012 at 1:33 pm

“I believe that, today, the Iranians would not have allowed the American hostages to survive. They would have murdered them all.”

No, not them.

You can state that the Shia Iranians are evil but you know well what Egyptian, Syrian and Libyan “freedoon fighters” would have done with those
hostages, right?

What sort of special treatement would younger hostages and “abeeds” received, yes?

They are the most vicious, their hatred is deeper than that of their shia counterparts, be it in 1979 or 2012.
It is just that in top of that, their leaders are also more double-faced too.

Reagan had the hostages freed by selling US military equippement, not because he was tought. Under his presidency, deindustrialization continued.

Yes, the US did wrong by supporting the Shah, it wasn´t a fight against islamists or even communists, mererly to please vested interests.
Already back then, Washington decided to forsake the principles it proclaimed to defend, for benefits. The rot is much more extensive today but it was the same as back then.

The Shah was an allie of the US?
Perhapse, already back then, the US should have been wiser as to what allies it had.

Yes, the Shah was worst than the Iranian regime today when it came to torture and the situation for common Iranians, otherwise the Ayatollahs would have faced their own revolution years ago now, the Iranian populations have more weapons now.

jaws on October 17, 2012 at 1:38 pm

Kevin

I’m glad that you took the opportunity to come here & weigh in.

Sometime, I’d like to read your thoughts about the role of both Islam & Muslims in the problems we face throughout the hemesphere – from Morocco to Indonesia. Too many people are in denial about that aspect of things.

Infidel on October 18, 2012 at 1:13 am

I served as an MSG (Marine Security Guard) during those dark days of the Iranian Hostages, in fact I had just graduated from the MSG school when the first incident took place. It was a true wakening of the dangers we were to face in the world as MSG’s. My initial assignment was to Geneva, but Sgt. James M. Lopez who had gotten release ended up taking my spot and returned to duty thereafter. I was reassigned to the American Embassy in London. Our Regional security officer swore to us that our embassy “will never be taken” and so the Marines felt our backs where covered by a man of conviction. I had and opportunity later that first year to meet another Marine who served in the Iranian Embassy on the second take over, although I am unable to remember his name. He was a young Sgt. too, I believe he was just 19 turning 20, his head was full of white hair, not gray, but white. I had asked him his age and he told me will be twenty in a few days, I was floored by how much older he looked. When I asked how did he get so many gray hairs, he said, when he return to his quarters in the Embassy compound, there would be people taking shots at them from across the streets, because his room faced the street side. He could never get a good night sleep and thus the stress aged him faster than he cared to be.
I was fortunate not to be in such incidents, in any of my tours as a MSG, the greatest thing I faced in England was a demonstration by some Iranian dissidents protest proclamation introduced to the American Ambassador Kingman Brewster. The Marines were in full alert and equipped for anything. Later I was assigned to the American Embassy in Port-Au-Price Haiti, and my third post was The American Interest Section in Havana, Cuba, were I served my final tour as an NCOIC of those Marines. I was fortunate, Many other Marines I know where not, and for them I feel fear they will never have the recognition they deserve for their bravery and for being the first line of defense. People like Kevin Hermening are hero’s, yet our media doesn’t promote their message in the main stream of news. Where are these people now, what is of their health and why can’t we hold those responsible for their actions. We continue to be sold short by politicians more interested in lining their pockets than holding the ideas that made us great.

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