August 29, 2013, - 5:24 pm

If Fast Food Workers Make Double, Look Forward to $10 Burgers & Tacos; Madness @ Mickey Ds Where I Grew Up

By Debbie Schlussel

Today, fast food workers shut down a McDonald’s in the Detroit-area suburb of Southfield, Michigan, where I grew up (the McDonald’s in question is literally across the street from the City of Detroit). The store had no choice but to close because most, if not all, of its employees walked off the job to demand $15 per hour. Other than my strong belief in capitalism and free markets, I don’t have a dog in this fight because I don’t eat fast food. Because I keep kosher–and have all my life–I’ve never had a Big Mac, a Whopper, a Chilupa or Burrito Supreme from Taco Bell, or a roast beef sandwich at Arby’s (it looks good to me, though). So, if fast food restaurants in America chose to double the wages of these unskilled employees beyond what the market has already decided is the fair wage, it wouldn’t hurt me. The price of my food wouldn’t go up. But it would go up for anyone who eats at these places.

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And, in fact, families who rely–especially in this Obamaconomy on economically-priced “value meals” at McDonald’s, Burger King, and so on, well they would be hurt. Those families can’t afford to pay for a $10-$15 burger. And if they could, they’d be better off going to dine at a fancy restaurant, where many meals are exactly that price (at least here in the Detroit area). There would be no more dollar value meals on the menu for fast food customers. Because, after all, the doubled wages have to be made up somewhere. And business owners almost always pass off the added costs of labor on customers.

It would be suicidal for fast food restaurants to double workers’ pay. Their whole business model and market advantage is price (and tasty, quick food). Doubling workers’ pay would soon mean closing doors and workers losing their jobs. These workers simply have no grasp of economics . . . kinda like the President they voted for.






In the end, just as it has with the minimum wage, the economy would adjust to the absurd $15 per hour wages for hashslingers and “Would you like fries with that?” utterers. So, their $15 per hour would eventually be worth a lot less in real dollars and buying power, just as has happened with the minimum wage increases these workers collect.

If McDonald’s Hamburger University were actually a real school and the workers earned degrees from it, as many college students do from real universities (where they learn a lot less), McDonald’s workers would still possess no special skills, no unique qualifications and credentials that make them worth $15 per hour. Anyone can cook burgers, handle a cash register, talk through a headset and ask you if you want tartar sauce with your Filet O’Fish. That’s why it’s an entry level, temporary job. Working fast food is not designed to be a career, unless you aspire to be a manager or become and entrepreneur and earn enough money to invest in your own franchise.

If you don’t like the $7.50 per hour that you are making as a Mickey D’s employee in Southfield (or anywhere else), you can always quit. There are plenty of people eager to work and make some money to bide them in this rough economy.

And they’d be thankful to have a job and a salary.

Would you like ten dollar burgers with that?

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One other thing: while I don’t support McDonald’s doubling its employees pay to $15 per hour, I wholeheartedly endorse America downsizing Congressmen’s and Senators’ pay to $7.50 per hour. Something tells me things would be a whole lot better.

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Deb, you are wrong on one point. You would most definitely be affected if the price of Quarter Pounders went up.

Every other employee in every other business would start demanding $15.00 as their minimum wage. If the minimum wage increases de facto, every other wage group would demand increases; there would be an upward pressure on all wages. To keep up with lost profits, or to eliminate the subsequent pressures, businesses would increase prices, we would have inflation on a broad scale, and our dollar would be effectively devalued. Remember the Carter years? (Okay, you were too young then, but I was in graduate school at the time..not good years).

The ramifications for this country are much greater than people are being led to believe.

I was going to make a crude joke about comparing Obama’s manhood to a hamburger, but it is a Quarter Pounder, not a quarter incher.

JEG: I did say the economy adjusts to the higher wages. And that also includes prices going up on everything. But you are right, the wages part of the economy would be forced to adjust to fast food workers making $15 per hour, too. DS

Jonathan E. Grant on August 29, 2013 at 5:30 pm

No!

If the strike succeeds, I predict these workers will be demoted to part-time status.

Same pay as before with fewer hours. Is that worth going on strike for? Yay!

They ignore the old true and sage advice in this market: “be careful for you wish for; you just might get it.”

NormanF on August 29, 2013 at 5:39 pm

I’ve already started eschewing Mickey Dee’s (and I’ve loved it since 1967) because of prices. I have an 8 year-old and when I get her a big kid’s Happy Meal plus an extra order of small fries and a McDouble (she’s very athletic and a big eater and *loves* McDonald’s like her old man) it’s ten bucks. Ten dollars to feed a kid lunch.

Over the past year we went from maybe once a week to now once a month or longer between McD’s visits. We’ve taken up the slack by either packing lunches or Del Taco which is very aggressive now with their pricing and quality. I can stuff her with tacos and a huge order of fries for about five bucks and then we go across the street for a cheap sundae at McD’s.

If they’re forced to raise prices even more, I agree with Debbie that it will kill their business model.

DS_ROCKS! on August 29, 2013 at 5:42 pm

Totally agree with the post. these idiots are cutting their own throats with this “cause” that’s about as valid as the morons camping out at the “Occupy” sites. I’ve already quit the salt laden Taco Bell in favor of a better, family owned Mexican Gardens that was just renovated as well. Such good chicken burritos there is NO comparison at all. As far as fast food in general, I would go Wendy’s anyway, but I stick to better stuff and keep my lab results coming back better and better. That fat crap will kill a person. My advice to the workers: Keep striking and falsely thinking you deserve it, then find another job or move to France. I like a Big Mac or Quarter Pounder with cheese occasionally, but it’s not my first choice. Look at how all the other burger places have encroached into their market with better stuff.

samurai on August 29, 2013 at 5:49 pm

What they don’t understand is fast food is a fixed price item and employees can’t pass the cost of a higher wage along to the customers – they do that they go out of business.

We’re going to see the fast food industry transformed by hiring temps and part timers. The losers are going to be the people who think they can ignore real world economics and the cost of doing business.

No one in their right mind is going to pay $10 in this economy for a fast food burger. I can buy six to eight frozen burgers for that sum and eat well for an entire month – which I do!

So where’s the incentive for fast food franchisees to basically commit what amounts to economic suicide? Good luck with earning the proposed $15 an hour on what is basically unskilled labor AND working 40 hours a week. Something has got to give. And it won’t be the customers lining up at the stand.

NormanF on August 29, 2013 at 5:51 pm

Maybe these workers can quit their jobs and get jobs as nuclear physicists or petroleum engineers. They claim to be so valuable to society. Or they can band together and form their own restaurants (“Vomitburgers, per chance? That’s a catchy name for their future restaurant).

Jonathan E. Grant on August 29, 2013 at 5:54 pm

Jon,

The minimum wage wasn’t designed to support a family! People who complain they can’t support their kids on it are in the wrong line of work.

Which is exactly the point.

NormanF on August 29, 2013 at 5:55 pm

I already did the math and I must say again I am always right:

$7.50 X 40 = $2400 a month

$15.00 X 20 = $2400 a month

So where’s the higher wage? Their overall salary remains the same! If you like holding down two part-time jobs, maybe its worth it. But I don’t see how the extra $8.50 improves their quality of life that much.

This is the fast food biz equivalent of playing music chairs on the decks of the Titanic. As I already said, good luck with it!

NormanF on August 29, 2013 at 6:12 pm

    Sorry Norm, but 7.5 x 52 x 40/12 = $1300/month. Additionally, if the salaries double, the same number of hours have to be worked, so the franchisee and customer are still screwed.

    I personally don’t eat at McDonald’s, but I occasionally eat the fish sandwich at Wendy’s and their Ice cream drink. Much better than the garbage at McDonalds, which makes me nauseous.

    Jonathan E. Grant on August 29, 2013 at 6:20 pm

      Jon,

      I put in a five day workweek. If you include weekends and holidays, that amount rises accordingly, of course.

      My point was the only way to make a higher wage work is to employ every one part-time. Which kinda defeats the higher asking salary.

      The company is not going to raise the price of its food. Its going to find savings elsewhere to make up for the extra money it would be paying its employees.

      NormanF on August 29, 2013 at 9:23 pm

What amazes me is the fact that some of these workers decided to have kids(not talking about just one)while working at McDonald’s or some other fast food.

worry01 on August 29, 2013 at 6:12 pm

    Exactly, Worry. They blame Maccas for THEIR stupid problems. Their main problem was having kids, single and unmarried and NOT working at McDonald’s for $8.00 per hour.

    And that’s exactly who CNN showed when I saw the story on this @ the gym. Young, Black single mums. Livin’ NOT large on the White Liberal slave plantation. But blame the red-headed clown with big feet!

    Single mums and poverty go together like PB&J but not even near as tasty.

    Skunky on August 29, 2013 at 6:46 pm

      Thank you. Skunky, we may see the return of the Automat: http://i1.disneyfoodblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/automat-1.jpg

      When you artificially boost the wages of labor, management will look for ways to limit its use. Automation, to the extent possible, becomes attractive.

      worry01 on August 29, 2013 at 7:09 pm

      These are all Jesse Jackson wannabes. He’s livin’ large with no accomplishment beyond shakin’ down corporate America. We should all try it.

      By the way Debbie, you are wise to avoid the fast food. They invented the Double Wide Trailer to accommodate the double wide asses of fast food patrons. Your svelte shape would not be improved on a diet of Double Cheese Quarter Pounders.

      Pete on August 30, 2013 at 9:20 am

I think the strike is positive for public health. If some of these places close, there will be less disease in our society, since many of these workers are illegal aliens, individuals with bizarre sexual practices (or both), who have a disproportionate amount of communicable diseases.

The other advantage to public health hopefully is that less food, unhealthy on its face, would be sold.

I think the organizers are aware that their aims are not realistic. They are really campaigning for more federal benefits and handouts, hopefully (for them) arising out of public sympathy.

Little Al on August 29, 2013 at 6:13 pm

LA,

with public benefits in the mix, they already get a nice tax free income. More when you include negative income assistance!

People aren’t starving in this country. Some people don’t know how to show gratitude! In the Third World, people have to survive on a few dollars a day and here we have spoiled brats complaining they’re being paid too little!

Go figure.

NormanF on August 29, 2013 at 6:20 pm

    But the only word in their vocabulary is MORE.

    Little Al on August 29, 2013 at 6:26 pm

Although I think some of the ‘students’ at the Hamburger school do learn a couple of skills beyond the fundamentals of fast food. Hopefully they learn hygiene, something not all that common these days, and hopefully they learn to be moderately well-spoken. That is why restaurants hire a lot of college graduates today. Although their degrees are meaningless, and many of them are not so bright, some of them are around educated people enough so that they are able to be well-spoken and interface with educated, cultured people.

Little Al on August 29, 2013 at 6:25 pm

McDonald’s created more millionaires, and in particular more black millionaires, than any other business in existence. Many of these people started off making minimum wage, and worked their way up. Of course, some were college educated, and ended up owning several McDonald’s.

The wage is not great, but it is a starting wage for unskilled workers. It is a stepping stone to other jobs.

If I were a boss, and I saw someone worked at McDonald’s for a couple of years, or even a summer, I would know that that person knows how to work.

If these unskilled laborers want a job with a higher starting wage, they are free to leave McDonald’s, or they can go to North Dakota, where McDonald’s is having problems finding workers in the burgeoning oil/gas economy up there. (Maybe the answer to many people’s problems is for Obama to allow more gas and oil drilling so we have more jobs in this country??)

Jonathan E. Grant on August 29, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    In North Dakota, they are paying McD’s workers $15.00/hr. In Williston, which is a boom town. But in Chicago? Good luck.

    Leah—you are correct—the price in NZ for McDs was twice that of what it was in the USA. The cost of living in the US is much less than the UK. Obama wants to change that; one of the many reasons he is a swine.

    Cost of breakfast at McDs or Subway (Subway is better)—right around $7.00.

    Eating at home is always cheaper. But I am on call 50% of my life and run a constant sleep deficit, so I tend to go out for breakfast after AM report for 30 minutes. That one meal tends to keep me going until 6 PM and home time.

    Occam's Tool on August 31, 2013 at 12:32 am

Enjoyable (& didactic!) as always JEG.

One thing I haven’t been able to figure out in the Obama-Putin Economy is why the paucity of jobs and a living wage (even more so in the advent of ObamaPutinCare…) has not driven the COMPETITION of these vital, worthy yet entry level jobs up to the stratosphere?

I would hope that would be a silver lining but I still see bored, dopey, slacker-y, indifferent idiots waiting on me. I want the competition to go so high only the best and the brightest will man these jobs for a while until they can move up.

Instead, we get rude, unfriendly, asperger-y morons who just dial it in and have ZERO social skills. I should prolly apologize to TRUE Asperger peeps because they may not have the social skills (etc..) but the ones I have known have been smart and driven and capable. I just mean many people today have flat personalities and I just can’t stand it (but let that go…).

I love Maccas. It’s Americana and I can get a tasty salad, small fry and a bag of apple slices* for only $2.99. That salad is pretty good, too. (*That beast Michelle Antoinette Obama-Putin made it so that they don’t give you the small caramel dip anymore…thanks, you horse-toothed, Commie monster!!!!).

And when I do eat meat, their burgers are tasty and I have always liked them (even when I didn’t eat other meat products..). If I have a complaint (which is not germane to this issue) it’s they USED to have more choices for vegetarians…well, what I listed is just all one can get if vegetarian.

Their little ice creams, shakes and coffee drinks are tasty and well priced, too. I like ‘em better than Dunkin Donuts and they taste way better than Starbucks (and cost heaps less!!).

I see NO reason, especially since illegal aliens are quite brazen with being out in the open, why some OTHER peeps would NOT line up and take those jobs for the non-ridiculous minimum wage demand. Unless it’s because of Obama-Putin’s “Cloward & Piven” strategy and then we have just circled the square…

Skunky on August 29, 2013 at 6:32 pm

How much are you willing to bet key Obama minions were behind these strikes – which, apparently, were nationwide, as I was hearing on the radio there were strikes outside key Mickey D’s where I live in New York City. But no doubt that the usual suspects of Communist front groups are also behind (and very much support) these cut-your-nose-off-to-spite-your-face strikes.

ConcernedPatriot on August 29, 2013 at 6:34 pm

    I agree, ConcernedPatriot. This will probably become a campaign theme next year, how the Republicans and the evil 1% are causing these poor workers to suffer.

    Little Al on August 29, 2013 at 8:00 pm

As some here have already said, burger flipper jobs and minimum wage was never meant to support a family, pay a mortgage, and all that. Those are ENTRY level jobs, and some of them have to be part time, not just to fill the employer’s needs, but so that college and high school students can work those jobs. Very little is said about bringing real jobs and some of our industrial base, not just “rust belt” manufacturing, but some of the high tech jobs that have left, back to the U.S. Those are the jobs that are capable of supporting families and the U.S. economy. And, as for fast food? Look into what they make that shit out of. You will stop eating it. I am over one month ass burger free, and plan on staying that way.

RT on August 29, 2013 at 6:52 pm

One more question – why are they stopping @ $15/hr? Will even that be adequate for them? Why don’t they simply demand an annual salary of $100k, and state that that’s what they need to pay their rent/mortgage, school, and other expenses?

As it is, companies have discovered that they can simply send a lot of jobs abroad to get done. And given these attitudes and the upward pressure on wages, do you blame them? Everyone has to, if not stay competitive, at least survive, but once they raise prices to support a good quality of life for their employees, their total available market will shrink that much, since their customers are (usually) not their employees.

OTOH, I do know that it’s an entry level job, but when you have people unemployed, they then start looking at these jobs as well. Which is when the complaints of ‘I can’t support my family on that’ kick in. But that would then beg the question – what are they better off being – employed @ $7.50 an hour or unemployed @ $15.00 an hour?

Infidel on August 29, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    Infidel,

    Fast food industry jobs cannot be off-shored. But if some one can deliver it faster from Polynesia, Mexico or the Carribean – then those jobs could hemorrhage here, too.

    NormanF on August 29, 2013 at 9:26 pm

This is in no way spontaneous: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/fast-food-workers-stage-largest-190011288.html

worry01 on August 29, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    Thanks for confirming my suspicions. I had a gut feeling that was the case (see my other comments above), but to know that it was indeed organized, is not exactly a surprise – and par for the course under Obama.

    ConcernedPatriot on August 30, 2013 at 7:54 pm

Most fast food workers are either high school / collage students or retired people looking for something to do while earning some extra money. They are not interested in dealing with unions. They also don’t intend to be there forever. You have to learn to do something if you want more wages. Why do they think education is important? If McDonalds and the like raise their prices most of them will simply close.

Look at the “stop Walmart” BS in Washington and some other places. Has any of them actually come up with better jobs in their areas? It’s interesting that these same people probably insist on unchecked immigration. The first rule to increase prices is to limit supply. What do they think importing cheap labor is going to do to their bargaining position?

jerry on August 29, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    I am not sure where you get you information but illegals comprise of the workforce in the fast food industry. It seems like a ploy for the consumer to further advance and foot the bill and to aid the cause of the illegals in terms of pay. As far as the rest of the blow-hards that post here, except Debbie, because she has her own firm, knows nothing about running a business, meeting payroll deadlines or dealing with stringent tax codes at the fed and state levels.

    McDonalds is a multinational corporation that generates billions in revenue annually. Their growth was nearly 30% last year so if the workers are seeking better wages and conditions, I am all for it. That company, and many rat bastards that are franchisees are extremely wealthy and can afford to meet the demands of workers that do a pretty decent job and work extremely hard by putting up with a lot of ass holes.

    Admittedly, they cannot get an order correct, such as hold the mustard, because it literally shuts down production, but otherwise, the produce a pretty decent product.

    AR on August 29, 2013 at 8:17 pm

      AR, I guess like most stupid people whose native language is Arabic, you have a hard time expressing yourself in English. Or perhaps you are one of the illegal alien advocates who feels that English is the language of the oppressor so you really don’t need to learn it very well.

      Little Al on August 29, 2013 at 8:29 pm

        LOL

        DS_ROCKS! on August 29, 2013 at 9:41 pm

        Man, you are brilliant. I guess your pseudonym refers to your manhood. Do you suffer from penis envy?

        AR on August 30, 2013 at 12:13 am

          Here’s one for ya: why do Internet tough guys always seem so fascinated with and insist on talking about and speculating on the size of other men’s penises?

          DS_ROCKS! on August 30, 2013 at 12:52 am

          Certainly not yours. I’d get sick if I came within ten feet of it.

          Little Al on August 30, 2013 at 2:42 pm

The lack of economic education in America’s schools is criminal and leads to people making fools of themselves, as evidenced today.

I worked at McD’s when I was in high school; think I made 50 cents over minimum wage at the time, maybe minimum wage, which was either $4.25 or $5.25 at the time. The pay wasn’t that good, but the job wasn’t that hard. It was a good job that I stayed at until a better job at a department store came along. I’ve never regretted the 6 months I worked there, and most importantly, I knew I wasn’t going to be there forever, nor was I going to have a f’ng family while working there. Even at 16, I wasn’t that stupid.

Matt on August 29, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    My 2:42 comment was obviously directed at AR.

    Little Al on August 30, 2013 at 2:43 pm

Inflation would skyrocket. These workers would lose any benefit because gas would zoom to $7 a gallon, restaurant meals at Chilis and other chains would go to $45, and you couldn’t get in a fine restaurant for less than $100 per plate. Grocery store price would balloon. This is a nightmare scenario. Working fastfood is not supposed to be a career unless you take the management track.

fleiter on August 29, 2013 at 9:29 pm

I made a bit less than that at an ENGINEERING INTERNSHIP.
I was making actual devices that improve the quality of life.

$7.50/hr is a small amount in this economy – even at my wages, a significant portion went to pay for rent and gas. It is unfortunately easy to get stuck in a dead-end fast food job, but raising the amount they are paid will not improve anything in the long run.

Sam on August 29, 2013 at 9:54 pm

King Barry said the other day that what would it matter if the black man can sit at the white table but not afford the meal. Well in obamas economy he can only afford that meal with food stamps. Fire everyone of them that abandoned their job, plenty of people to take their place.

Now, if I had a company and they demanded this I would get them all in one room and say “I will double your wages, but I can then only afford to keep half of you on the job. In 15 minutes when I come back in, those still standing have the raise and job”. Make it a Battle Royale, video it and put it on youtube, be an instant hit, better than Bum Fights.

ender on August 29, 2013 at 10:30 pm

McDonald’s prices won’t have to go up necessarily. They will just grind/form the burgers using cheaper cuts of horse.

CornCoLeo on August 29, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    Leo, horsemeat would be an improvement to what they use now. If you put a bigmac outside, the flies wont touch it let alone eat it. That tells me 2 never ever eat one.

    who knows? on August 31, 2013 at 9:58 am

Why would someone work at McDonald’s for the minimum wage for twenty-one years: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/08/29/fast-food-retail-workers-stage-one-day-strike-for-higher-wages/

I have a feeling that Tyree Johnson is not telling us the whole story.

worry01 on August 30, 2013 at 12:17 am

Hmm, seems like I have to spring in to action. Just like with the thought police attacking Chick Fil’ A last year ( I honestly had never been to one), I bought 3 meals in one week. They were good! Now I feel I must support Mickey D’s and Burger King immediately. But i am on a diet; what to do? Please McD, quit with the yearly teasing but bring back the McRib full time; and BK, give the Yumbo one more try, ’cause there’s at least 2 generations yearning for it (they just don’t know it), and also BK, the BIG KING was the best meal you ever had-bring it back! ‘Else I’ll have to wait for the slumbering Geno’s Giant to wake and seize the moment and etc. I’m running out of time! God bless you fast food workers, every one!

civilwarvet on August 30, 2013 at 2:12 am

I think both liberals and conservatives can miss the bigger picture. Namely this food is junk food, it’s not even food in any meaningful sense. This junk diet contributes to obesity in America in a big way, and related conditions such as heart disease and diabetes. And that contributes to spiraling health care costs. It doesn’t matter if you are Jewish or Gentile, keep kosher or not. I don’t keep kosher and I don’t eat that junk.

Don’t take your kids to McDonalds, don’t go there yourselves, except for a coffee. Where I disagree with others, is that I think workers are entitled to a living minimum wage. Maybe management can take a cut to their paypackets, they are not the ones doing the real work, flipping burgers.

Of course if people stopped going to McDonalds, Burger King and the rest, they would close down and these people would lose their jobs. Well maybe more useful jobs in society are needed and less Mcjobs.

Larry in Tel Aviv on August 30, 2013 at 2:56 am

    Larry, this is AMERICA. We want the freedom to choose where and what we wanna eat. I like the freedom of choice. I hate seafood. I could say seafood sucks, let’s close down all the seafood joints but I like peeps who love their seafood to have their seafood. Whatever and where ever they want!

    I had a vegan ice cream the other day. It was delish and tasted just like PB&J. I bet many people would rather eat at Maccas than eat at a vegetarian place. And that is their freedom of choice. I also had a curried quinoa salad…how many people would agree to go with me and get that? Hardly any, but they would go to McDonalds with me BEFORE going to an expensive vegetarian joint!

    Also, our rotten ObamaCare will take care of of others watching what people do and eat. Citizens will be nosing in on others’ business thanks to our crypto Marxist Prez.

    If people “REALLY” cared about people’s health (and taxpayer $$) they would be putting their stickybeaks into people’s drug habits (both legal and illegal), STDs and deviant sexual practices and trying to REALLY stop out-of-wedlock births. What you listed is just the only realm it is ok to mind other’s business (citing “health” when that really is NOT the catalyst!!) but ignoring other health issues that also cover your so-called concern. Just like it’s ok to poke fun at a redneck but NOT anyone else.

    Freedom and choice! But I also hate canards!

    Skunky on August 30, 2013 at 10:29 am

Ummmm
Mcdonalds is paying $15hr to start at some of their locations in the U.S.
You just have to be willing to relocate to North Dakota.

You see there is a boom happening in North Dakota right now due to their developing their resources.
This economic boom could be repeated across the country if Obama and his beaurocrats would get their boots off the throats off the business.

ebayer on August 30, 2013 at 3:27 am

In Columbus, Ohio, on High Street, just north of Lane Avenue, I went to a Burger King, when I lived across the street, and ordered two double hamburgers, ketchup only. Ketchup only. Nine times in a row, I got cheese on ‘em. These people don’t deserve what they get now!

Red Randy on August 30, 2013 at 7:55 am

FACTORS TO CONSIDER…

1. U.S. is $200,000,000,000,000 in debt and sinking.

2. Fed Reserve is printing $85 Billion / month.

3. Black youth unemployment is near 40% – Detroit and elsewhere.

4. Educational achievement among Black students is pathetic.

5. The Worker to Retiree ratio for Social Security cash flow is on the verge of collapse.

6. BUT! SELF-ESTEEM IS HIGH.

Time to invest in ROBOTICS STOCKS BECAUSE THE ANSWER IS TO FULLY AUTOMATE MICKY D’s —– SEE “worry01″ previous comment above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfFIeplquWE

All you strikers out there, HEED THE MESSAGE.

Dennis on August 30, 2013 at 8:15 am

These fast food restaurants won’t increase salaries because like Debbie said, it would be suicidal for them and they know it. Increased fast food worker wages would lead to fast food restaurants going out of business and the workers would have no jobs instead of a minimum wage jobs.

Hillel on August 30, 2013 at 9:01 am

They have a right to walk. They have a right to get another job with better pay. They have a right to go to school to improve their opportunities at a better paying job. The have a right to form a union. The have a right to start their own business. But, nobody owes any other person a job. And minimum wage was not designed to support a family. They should used this job as a stepping stone to bigger and better things.

myother on August 30, 2013 at 9:26 am

Let’s say these thugs win and get their $15/hr wage. Let’s say I am the one that hires the employees for employment. If I am going to pay $15/hr to prospective employees, you better believe that I will not hire someone that is all inked up with tattoos, has piercings all over their face and body, wears their pants below their hips, can’t speak in complete sentences, don’t know the words,”please & thank you” and can’t look you in the eye when talking to you. Guess who I will be hiring?? College grads that are looking for work or retired individuals that know how to act civilized in public. At $15/hr, I want the most bang for my buck. I guess the thugs and breeders will say that I am racist, but guess what, I don’t really give a damn what they think.

Mike on August 30, 2013 at 9:26 am

IMO, wages at these levels would lead to full automation of most fast food restaurants. There would be a bunch of touch pad terminals with CC slots and cash receptacles . One or two persons to handle issues and load supplies into the the automation. Multiple lines would be used for breakfast and a mid shift cleaning. The two or three jobs would be high paying but there would be no entry level.

Anthony in MI on August 30, 2013 at 9:31 am

If you bet a $1,000 that there was a Union worker involved I’m sure you would win the bet.

Unions ‘WANT’ an increase in the minimum wage.

It’s not for benevolent reasons.

99% of Union Contracts call for an “automatic” contract renegotiation with an automatic increase in cost of living. They would get a “””Substantial””” increase in their long term pension benefits and their short term employment condition benefits and their hourly rate with designated future additional rate insreases.

Cyborg on August 30, 2013 at 9:51 am

    I cannot say unions are involved in this case, but I can attest to what the unions are doing at BART. Entry level workers for this transit system literally do nothing, get three pensions, they also do not pay into social security tax, and they make an excess of 100 (k) per year. Imagine a janitor that does not have to clean, because cleaning is sub-contracted, and making that type of dough. Management is worse. They make in excess of a 1/4 million bucks to create policies like closing the restrooms, for security reasons, so that bums can defecate on escalators and stairways.

    Meanwhile the dumb-ass BART cops shoot innocent people in the back while handcuffed. (see Oscar Grant) Actually, the cops are afraid to patrol outside any station. You never see them in Richmond, 24th & Mission or beyond Powell St. Station where all of the violent criminals congregate to rob law abiding citizens that go to work everyday.

    AR on August 30, 2013 at 12:10 pm

This is part of the spread the wealth plan of Obama. I invest time and risk capital, to get a reward. Now, under Obama’s socialist plans, I have spread the reward around to people who did not risk capital.

This “strike” smells of a union-government conspiracy to raise the minimum wage without having to go through Congress.

Just as we can dispense our own drinks, I see the day when we can dispense our own desserts, including ice cream, at a fast food restaurant. Even the process of frying French fries can be automated, to a degree.

Coming to a restaurant near you.

Jonathan E. Grant on August 30, 2013 at 10:31 am

Lets’s thank the democrats and that nutjob Elizabeth Warren for this BS. They will do ANYTHING to disrupt the U.S. economy. Warren has been pushing for a minimum wage of $20 plus. She has some demented communist on her staff who works out all of the phony economic models. Moreover, there are idiots out there pushing her to run for president, GOD help us!

Marc on August 30, 2013 at 10:52 am

The foreign, usually Indian, Pakistani, or Muslim, owners that buy these fast food franchises depend on illegal/unskilled labor force, that’s how they role. Americans don’t mind paying $4-5 a gallon for gasoline, and that’s more expensive than a gallon of milk. Unskilled labor? With the big business in the U.S. that is the education industry, tons of schools and plenty of money from the government to pay tuition and fees and books and basketball scholarships, and Air Jordans, how is it that U.S. corporations still can’t find skilled labor and how can an unskilled labor force still exist in the U.S? The morning trains to the metro area already looks like the Mumbai Express, what’s up with that?
America, what a country!

QTD on August 30, 2013 at 11:24 am

    You left out the fact that if you are seeking a position in today’s workplace, the person that is doing the hiring is from one of the third world piss pots that you mentioned. It goes without saying that you need not apply because they simply will give the job to one of their people.

    I know the guy that owns that owns Churches Chicken came here from one of those places, started out as guy frying chicken and now he owns the entire corporation. Really, what’s up with that?

    AR on August 30, 2013 at 12:01 pm

Let them eat cake!

Steve Gardality on August 30, 2013 at 12:02 pm

i say tie some modest raises to service performance/order accuracy…

“here’s your 7 big macs… 19 apple pies… and 3 filet-o-fish with no buns, sir.”

“sorry, i ordered a black coffee with two sugars…”

“oh… well, here’s your seven creams and i’ll be right back with your iced tea.”

kirche61 on August 30, 2013 at 3:18 pm

Wait till fast food restaurants will be automated and more people will be out of work. These people who are protesting are very short sighted.

Harendra on August 30, 2013 at 3:44 pm

A lot of places already pay more than minimum wage and don’t overcharge for food, meaning NO GREEDY CEO’s!
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/08/30/2556301/burrito-chain-pays-entry-level-workers-10-hour-pay/

Lee on August 30, 2013 at 3:46 pm

‘Think Progress’[sic] is a George Soros-funded left-wing “think tank” that has no credibility whatsoever on anything – let alone how the restaurant industry works, and especially fast-food chains.

ConcernedPatriot on August 30, 2013 at 7:59 pm

I think it is unfair to sneer at people who work a lifetime in McDonalds. Some people work a lifetime there because they are not academically able enough to get a better job. Not everyone is capable of getting a degree, finishing school or starting a business. Some people struggle to read and write and *have to* work at menial tasks all their lives. They deserve to get enough to live on. They can’t all be feckless people.

When I grew up in Britain in the 1980′s, eating at McDonalds or any fast food restaurant was a luxary. I remember being surprised on a visit to the USA that fast food was thought of as cheap over there, and not a special treat. British people were much slimmer and healthier in those days too.
Therefore I don’t think raising the price of a McDonald’s meal is a disaster.

Discussing the minimum wage is more important if you are talking about essential commodities going up in price like normal groceries and oil. Not some nonsense restaurant like McDonalds.

Leah on August 30, 2013 at 8:34 pm

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don crapolla on August 30, 2013 at 8:42 pm

I forgot to say – when I grew up in Britain in the mid-80′s, a McDonald meal of just burgers and fries did come out near the equivalent of well over $10 now.
Most working class people only ate out at McDonalds as an occasional treat. We prepared our meals at home and we were slimmer.

Leah on August 30, 2013 at 8:43 pm

You’re behind the times. Most meals at Burger King already cost $10.

Saundra on August 30, 2013 at 10:17 pm

@Harandra: Very good point. Workers at McDonald’s aren’t cooks, they just unthaw and heat up or fry all that McShit that is delivered by truck and was made in factories. Most factories are automated. It wouldn’t be that hard to automate a McDonald’s. If Americans weren’t so dumbed down, they would already be doing this. There are factories in Asia where you have to walk for blocks before you see a human being. Japan has ocean going vessels that are only crewed by four people. The “food” there is shit anyway, so with automation, you would just be dealing with one less crew of hood rats and retards picking their noses over your “food” and maybe even spitting in it. AFAIK, they don’t even call McShits restaurants, they call them “stores”. Before I stopped eating fast “food” I started picking my McShit source by first, observing cleanliness, mostly judged by whether they bothered to clean the greasy fingerprints off of the take out window and/or surfaces in the store. Number 2 thing I would look at would be the employees. If I saw a lot of “diversity” in the place that was strike two, and was ALMOST ALWAYS preceded by strike one. So, I ended up partaking of this shit in suburban/rural areas. It was still shit, but at least there wasn’t four days worth of greasy finger prints on the take out window.

RT on August 31, 2013 at 12:32 am

Dumbasses don’t deserve a raise, 30 mins for a number 2 with a filet of fish and they even get the order wrong as usual and they want a raise!!! What nerve.

Slowly but surely the economies of scale are breaking down in this country and turning everything upside down and the morons who voted for Obama thinks the economy is doing just fine.

The federal government artificially propping up the stock market, millions of foreclosures on the horizon and president preparing us for war in Syria to pull us out plus help his friends the muslim brotherhood regain power.

MANGOG on August 31, 2013 at 2:26 am

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