December 26, 2005, - 2:33 pm

Chanukah 2005, Day One: The Maccabees’ Israel

By Debbie Schlussel
In honor of Day One of Chanukah 2005, here’s a little history lesson. You know those “stateless, homeless, displaced” Palestinian Arabs–the ones Steven Spielberg gives a whining soliloquy to in “Munich“? Well, here’s a look at who was in Jewish “Palestine” (“Palestine” was the Roman name for Jewish Israel–the Palestinians had Jewish/Hebrew names like Shlomoh and Aryeh) at the time of the Maccabees. Check out the map, below.
Note that Jewish Palestine included “Gaulanitis,” which is now the Golan Heights (and gee, the Syrians claim it has ALWAYS been Syrian land; not really).
Note that the “West Bank” is actually the Eastern region of Jewish Palestine. Hmmm . . . no Jordan. No Arab Muslim Gaza either–it’s part of Jewish Palestine. And whaddya know? . . . Jerusalem is the full, undivided capital of Jewish Palestine.
Note also, Phoenicia. Phoenicians became Maronite Christians. Yet their land is now dominated by Shi’ite Muslim Hezbollah supporters who now call it Lebanon. Strange that no-one in the world is screaming about displaced Phoenicians.
So this is Palestinian and Islamic land, huh? Not in Matatias or Judah the Maccabees’ time. And not until recent political correctness.

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The Maccabees’ Israel: What Judah and Matatias Fought For.

No Arab Muslim “Palestinians” to be Found.

***UPDATE, 12/27/05: In response to some queries about the name “Palestine” and when it was used for Israel, here is some research provided by Jan Poller, brother of the excellent writer Nidra Poller:
* Many web sites use the word “Palestine” whenever they refer to the area, regardless of the usage of the time. (This has nothing to do with the modern day Arab Muslims who have usurped the name.)
* The reign of the Maccabees was 166-129 BCE – http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Maccabees.html (which, ironically uses the term “Palestine” to describe the area).
* Originally an adjective derived from the Hebrew word “Peleshet,” “Palestine” was first used disparagingly by the historian Herodotus (c 5BCE) to describe “the Philistine Syria”. Subsequently, the name was shortened and Palaistinei became the proper noun. The Jewish philosopher Philo identified Palaistinei with biblical Canaan. http://christianactionforisrael.org/medigest/aug98/backgrnd.html
* A good history of the people of the area can be found at http://www.esek.com/jerusalem/iudaea.html.

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12 Responses

Ma am,
I find it hard to believe that a journalist such as yourself would try to fog the issues with facts. Facts do not count, only feelings. Anything that makes a group of ner do wells feel good about themselves is more important than facts or even winning the war on terrorism.
If your ethnic group was 1400 years old and had accomplished nothing in the last 700 years except map a few waterholes along camel tracks in the middle of nowhere, you would need to be made to feel good about yourself. So you bomb a bus loaded with Jewish women and children that have done nothing to you in order to feel like you have done some noble deed. Then you run and hide behind your own women and children and boast to the world what a big man you are. The UN defends your actions, Europe praises them, and the Democrats apologize for upsetting you in the first place and putting the blame on all Americans except Democrats. And then you cheat by exposing this with those sneaky, nasty facts. Shame, shame, shame.
Awaiting tomorrows installment anxiously.

johnnycab23513 on December 26, 2005 at 4:09 pm

Great map, thanks. Why though is the map being referred to as Palestine? Did the Macabees not precede the Romans? And was it not a Roman emperor that renamed Judea Palestina?

Margo on December 26, 2005 at 6:12 pm

“Did the Macabees not precede the Romans?”
That’s what I thought too. Didn’t the Macabees fight the Greeks before Rome got involved there?

Sue Bob on December 26, 2005 at 7:05 pm

Israel was not renamed “Palestine” until the Romans expelled the Jews several hundred years later?
There were no Christians around at that time either.

Margo on December 26, 2005 at 7:54 pm

Margo is kind of right since the “Christians” did not come into being until a couple of centuries AFTER the Romans destroyed the Second Temple and renamed the land Palestine as they dispersed the Jews…but a lot of these latter-day ‘christians’ forget or forgo the fact that what they term ‘Christianity’ was much like the modern Hassidic movement…i.e., a sect of Jews who believed in a messiah.
Historically, Saul of Tarsus was a fallacious creation by Rome to legitimize anti-Semitism AND “Christian nationalism” as is evident whenever he got into trouble he declared his Roman citizenship! There has NEVER been any historic evidence of Jews persecuting Jesus’ early followers, in fact, THAT is probably the first blood libel ever.

EminemsRevenge on December 26, 2005 at 8:54 pm

not all of lebanon supports hizballah…only the shia muslims do

lebanese on December 27, 2005 at 2:46 am

Eminem’s Revenge, your ignorance and stupidity constantly amazes me. It really does.
If Saul of Tarsus was a “fallacious creation”, how could he declare his Roman citizenship?

Jeff_W on December 27, 2005 at 11:20 am

The Phoenicians (of Phoenicia) became Maronite Christians. The Muslims migrated there and took over, through forcible means (ie. killing and forced converstion). There were no Muslims there at the time. That was my point, not that they were Christian at the time. I will correct that to avoid any confusion.
Debbie Schlussel

Debbie Schlussel on December 27, 2005 at 12:47 pm

Debbie said, “The Muslims migrated there and took over, through forcible means (ie. killing and forced converstion).”
What? I thought it was Christians who always persecuted the Muslims. At least that’s what Emininem’s Revenge and Hollyweird says….

Jeff_W on December 27, 2005 at 1:13 pm

Divide and conquer

KOAJaps on December 27, 2005 at 2:22 pm

I have added additional information in response to the comments re- the name “Palestine.” See Update at the end of the entry.
Debbie Schlussel

Debbie Schlussel on December 27, 2005 at 3:32 pm

Debbie, while I like and agree with the concept you are trying to convey, I did notice that the southern 1/4 of present day Israel (i.e. the part that includes Eilat and perhaps Beersheba) is NOT part of Israel in the Maccabian map. Maybe that area is “Palestine”? :-)

hairymon on December 27, 2005 at 9:51 pm

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