July 19, 2007, - 1:57 pm

PETA Wins: Michigan Judge Says Dog is Same as Child

Even though I’m a carnivorous, leather-wearing human who understands the basic truth that animals were meant to serve–and be eaten by–humans, I don’t condone deliberate cruelty against animals. Nor do most of us. We simply resent activists from PETA a/k/a PUTAh (People for the Unethical Treatment of Animals and humans) telling us what we can eat, wear, and have as pets.
Still, while against animal cruelty, it’s difficult to read stories like that of Detroit-area Judge Mary Chrzanowski, who declared yesterday that animals are the same as children. They are NOT.
In sentencing a man for abandoning his dog (the dog starved to death), Macomb County Circuit Court Judge Chrzanowski lectured:

An animal, in this court’s opinion, is no different than a child.

Judge Mary Chrzanowski: Animals Same as Children

Wrong and disturbing. That a judge would declare this from the bench is yet more evidence that PETA has won. The group sees animals and humans as equals. And now they have at least one judge, Chrzanowski, in their back pocket.
The man was sentenced to 93 days in prison. While deliberate animal cruelty is generally a sign of derangement and a likely capability to commit cruelty against humans, they are not the same. Abandoning a dog and murdering a child are completely different and hardly on the same level.
And we need judges who recognize the difference. Shame on Judge Chrzanowski.

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15 Responses

Pretty silly decision.
Though inherit in her verdict is a tacit admission that a child’s life is more valuable than a dog’s. (At least I hope so.) I hope there is no judge that would give just 93 days for the death of a child.

zyzzyg on July 19, 2007 at 2:40 pm

Would she then go on and equate eating fried chicken or meat products at that matter to cannibalism? Where does this daft judge think she lives in, PETAland?

Jew Chick on July 19, 2007 at 2:56 pm

Now there’s a picture that screams heterosexual. Mary, hon, guys are suppose to wear the mullets not girls.

GEB4000 on July 19, 2007 at 2:59 pm

My concern is that instead of bringing animals up to the level of children, she is really bringing children down to the level of animals. 93 days for abandonment/murder if they are the same?? Doesn’t bode well for abandoned kids that come through her court.

Numenorean on July 19, 2007 at 4:03 pm

Hmmm, I am going to have to register a dissenting opinion here. I think the judge was just trying to impress upon the scumbag that pets, like children, are dependent upon us for their care. They both trust and love their “caregivers” and both will die if they are not cared for properly.
I am not a PETA fan for all the reasons Debbie has already outlined in her various posts on the subject. But it is with regret that I can’t support them, because if they weren’t so insane on some issues, they could really do some good work in the world.
Even though I KNOW that a child’s life is more valuable than a dog’s life, both are capable of feeling pain, fear, and sorrow — so in that respect, I see the child abuser and the dog abuser in the same light. There’s a reason why the song says “bless the beasts and the children, for in this world, they have no voice; they have no choice.”

AmericanJewess on July 19, 2007 at 4:06 pm

I agree with the above comment. If anything, her statement was either taken out of context or just a flat dumb comparison. But the punishment was equal to the crime. I serioiusly doubt that if a person had neglected their child to the point of death, even this judge would hand out a sentence of only 93 days. There’s not enough responsibility in this world, and I think the judge was simply trying to impart that taking on the care of a pet is a responsibility, just as is (but I agree not equal to) a child.

AlternativeThought on July 19, 2007 at 4:36 pm

Animal Lovers’ Victory over the Coast Guard
Let’s not forget the nutcase ruling in the wake of Katrina, in that a rescue helicopter seat for the pet of a person must be reserved in a copter rescuing a stranded person. The big unsung take of this is that the copter, once the last seat is filled, must _immediately_ stop searching and return to its pad! No one answers the big question whether, if the returning copter spots a flailing human strandee, will pooch or kitty get their can tossed out for that seat?
James Greenidge
Queens NY

jimwg on July 19, 2007 at 5:38 pm

I could be wrong, but the judge looks rather BUTCH. She may be one of those people that never has children assumes raising an animal is the same experience as normal people have that raise children.

dm60462 on July 19, 2007 at 6:49 pm

Oh for pete’s sake, James. A pet can sit on someone’s lap if “their seat” becomes needed for a human. The reason the helicopters arranged for rescue of pets is because there are people who simply will not leave their pets. You may think they are crazy and you’re entitled to your opinion, but there are people who would rather stay floating on their driftwood indefinitely than be separated from Fido.
And by the way, I’ve known people I wouldn’t bother to save before I’d save my pet. Yeah, there are some people who are pretty worthless in this world and they can get themselves to shore as far as I’m concerned. Judging from the stories coming out of the Katrina coverage, with thugs looting stores (not for food either) and raping women and children in front of large groups of people and SHOOTING at rescue vehicles and STEALING electrical cables from MEDICAL TENTS, it’s pretty clear that New Orleans had an excess of worthless human residents. I have no sympathy for Katrina victims in general; sounds like the pets were the only ones worthy of being saved.

AmericanJewess on July 20, 2007 at 12:59 am

And you know what dm60462, your comment is needlessly cruel (and ignorant). There are good people in the world who for whatever reason do not marry or are incapable of having children. Being single when you want to be married, or being infertile when you want to have children, are both extremely painful, heartbreaking life disappointments. So some of these people find comfort in the love of pets. Is there something wrong with that?
Because you don’t like this judge’s hairstyle, she is suddenly a “butch” lesbian who doesn’t have children and therefore doesn’t know their worth? For your information, lots of lesbians are having children, so you just made a very ignorant assumption.
Don’t forget the Democrats in Congress who made a snide remark to Condoleeza Rice about how because she doesn’t have children, she must not understand why American mothers would want their soldier sons to come home . . . Geez. How about you stop discriminating against people who don’t have children. There are many breeders who abuse and kill their children, and many infertiles who revere children and devote their lives to helping improve the lives of children.
I guess my main point would be, God help us if our moral fiber were actually dependent on the ability to push a baby out from between our legs.

AmericanJewess on July 20, 2007 at 1:07 am

American Jewess, maybe it’s because of 18 years of driving a taxi, but I’ve met some two legged animals I wouldn’t drive across the street to get. I was asked around Katrina time what I thought of Roe v Wade and I said, “I don’t give a shit how they get out of town”. About three years ago I was living in a part of Philadelphia that had changed while I was gone. I found this abandoned cat in an abandoned store front. It took two attempts to get her home. Turned out she was pregnant. I got her a hysterectomy and an abortion and about six months later we hauled ass out of that part of town. My little ghetto girl and I are living out on the Main Line now. I’m not a PETA person, but maybe they’ll be able to make arrangements with the authorities to have that Atlanta football player put in a cage with rabid pit bulls. There, I feel better now. Trust me, I know the difference between people and animals. I pay $100 a month which is half a tuition at a parochial school that has a program which helps kids whose parents can’t afford the tuition. But, I love my cat, too.

John Cunningham on July 20, 2007 at 5:54 am

John, bless you for saving that little kitty’s life! She will love you forever. I also rescued two tiny kittens about 10 months ago. Their mother abandoned them. They had eye infections and giardia and fleas and worms. Off to the vet — after three weeks of several times a day medications, they became healthy, adorable kittens. Now they are “teenagers” and they are so full of love and personality.
It would be great if justice could be done with regard to that subhuman football player. I’m sick to death of gutter trash making millions of dollars and garnering fame and admiration because they can run with a ball (how absurd). If he were a GOOD person who did GOOD DEEDS in the world with all that money, and actually served as a positive role model for young kids, I suppose I wouldn’t feel so angry at the whole million dollar ballplayer crap — but to be a cruel, ignorant, subhuman loser on top of everything else? It is just too much.

AmericanJewess on July 20, 2007 at 10:23 am

Ironically, if what they say about Vick is true, then in some cases there is no difference between animals and “some” humans.

AlternativeThought on July 20, 2007 at 11:54 am

Just wanted to say that my dog a l year old hungarian vizsla was shot and killed on our property on Valentines day at 3:30P.M. by 12 gauge shot gun. She was out play with my grandchildren and this drive by shot her for no reason. We only had her for 4months she came to us under weight and need a home we took good care of her and we loved her so much and it is like your own child and this person need to be found and punched for what he did.

joanne carson on February 16, 2010 at 8:26 pm

I’ll bet your opinion would be different if you were the animal who was deliberately starved to death, or beaten or abused. I applaud the judge for valuing animals in this way. As the mother of five, and an animal lover, I am no stranger to loving both animals and children. To abuse a vulnerable and helpless being is criminal, whether human or not

Liberty Forrest on June 9, 2014 at 12:54 am

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