March 3, 2010, - 10:49 am

More Islamic “Feminism” On Display Worldwide; Where is NOW?

By Debbie Schlussel

Yet two more examples of Islamic feminism on display for the world to see.  And, yet, predictably, the feminist hags from NOW (the National Organization for ugly Women) and other so-called women’s rights groups exhibit the usual crickets chirping.  Utter silence.


First there is our “friend and ally in the War on Terror” (and the enabler of it), the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.  Don’t dare complain there . . . if you have female plumbing and aren’t accompanied by your male watcher.  It could lead to some unwanted scars and a long, um, “vacation” from society.

A Saudi woman who filed harassment claims in Saudi Arabia without being accompanied by a male relative has been sentenced to 300 lashes and 18 months in jail, Human Rights Watch said.

Sawsan Salim lodged a series of complaints in 2007 at government offices and in court in the northern region of Qasim in which she alleged harassment by local officials, the New York-based rights group said. She was sentenced in January on charges of making “spurious complaints” against government officials and appearing “without a male guardian,” the group said in an e-mailed statement received today. . . .

Bandar bin Mohammed al-Aiban, president of the government- run Saudi Human Rights Commission, couldn’t be reached immediately for comment.

Ha! A Saudi Human Rights Commission? That’s gotta be the oxymoron of the year.

Then, there’s popular Indonesian musician, Ahmad Dhani.

The Indonesian music genius, who is the force behind super rock band Dewa 19, has publicly supported polygamy in a heated debate with a Muslim women’s movement leader in Jakarta.

“Polygamy in Islam doesn’t degrade women,” the spiritually inclined Dhani told Detik Hot. “Any Muslim woman who objects to it is insulting Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Prophet Muhammad, who was a polygamist. . . .

Maria Ulfah, the outspoken leader of PP Fatayat NU said: “Do not equate ourselves with the prophet, Mr Ahmad Dhani.

“He was willing to marry an 80-year-old widow. But our men today mostly want to marry more than one wife because of sex.”

Yup, this is “civilization” in the Islamic world. As I always say, it’s unfair to say the Islamic clash with Islam is a “clash of civilizations.” After all, that assumes there are two civilizations.

And what is so different between those Muslims and the ones in the West (including America)? Nothing . . . other than reaching critical mass, which they’ll ultimately achieve here because we’ve done nothing to stop them.

And, of course, while all of this goes on, American feminists are more concerned with the important things . . . like women becoming members of all-male golf clubs or the next WNBA draft.  Priorities and perspective–the two gifts of the women’s rights whiners.

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23 Responses

That men are allowed multiple wives, and that women are to be obedient are tenets clearly codified in the qur’an. Women are described as a “tilth” (field for seeding) which may be “approached” any time. Welcome to the 7th century.

stevecanuck on March 3, 2010 at 11:06 am

    To Steve who posted:

    That men are allowed multiple wives, and that women are to be obedient are tenets clearly codified in the qur’an. Women are described as a “tilth” (field for seeding) which may be “approached” any time. Welcome to the 7th century.

    I would add:

    “approached” any time AND ANY DIRECTION…

    goldenmike4393 on March 3, 2010 at 12:24 pm

Our concern for basic human rights seems to quite often go into silent running mode when it concerns a Muslim country or countris. Western countrie have to walk on egg shells when dealing with manufactured Muslim outrage over cartoons of Mohammed, or bars with the name of Medina. However, there is little Muslim outrage, manufactured or otherwise when the everyday repressiveness of Sharia is demonstrated. At most, you will be unconvincing excuses that the offenses are culture or taken out of context. Unfortunately, Saudi Arabia and Indonesia only have on thing in common, which is Islam. Finally, if one wishes to put it all into context, that is also Islamic.

sorrow01 on March 3, 2010 at 11:18 am

DS: “As I always say, it’s unfair to say the Islamic clash with Islam is a “clash of civilizations.” After all, that assumes there are two civilizations.”

Indeed, Syrian born Wafa Sultan, an outspoken critic of Islam, insists it’s not a class of civilizations, rather a clash between civilization and barbarism. She’s right.

Raymond in DC on March 3, 2010 at 11:45 am

Maria Ulfah should have taken the opportunity to point out that the “prophet” was also a pedophile. Wonder if Ahmed would have supported that position as well.

Sean Jones on March 3, 2010 at 12:08 pm

300 lashes?
Isn’t this a death penalty?
Can you survive 300 lashes?

goldenmike4393 on March 3, 2010 at 12:21 pm

Look at the crime rates against women in Saudi Arabia

Compared to domestic violence against women where you are from?

All you do is disguise the countless stories of violence that is swept under the carpet, HOW? BY pointing to those nations you have NO idea about, have never been, nor do your readers. I bet you have NEVER met a Saudi from SA in your life.

Look to your OWN back yard, and HELP your own people, NO? Not enough limelight and adoration to be gained there??

If you were a TRUE feminist, you would present a balanced case,

rather than a vitriolic angst that is evident in EVERY line you


No mention who Props up the Saudi Govt either? Propped up for


You have been placed in our “Perspective of Gnat” prize draw for March.

Sol on March 3, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    I have met Saudis. And the ones I have met and know have a disgusting view of women as property and “things.” And before citing general violence against women, what is being discussed here is STATE SPONSORED violence against women. She has, most likely, legitimate claims, and the State BEATS her for making such claims. If you support this, go to SA and hang with your brethren–and when you miss up and are lashed, lose a hand, etc…don’t come crying about human rights violations.

    Sean Jones on March 3, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    “Look at the crime rates against women in Saudi Arabia

    Compared to domestic violence against women where you are from?

    Hmmmm. Could it be that that crimes against women in SA are under-reported? Or that they are not viewed as “crimes”?

    Mike on March 3, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    Yawn. Do we really need to trot out all of the articles on Saudi Arabia? Also, domestic violence is reported in the Western press, and is prosecuted. Do we also need to provide those citations for you? Finally, do women need “male guardians” in Western societies to transact the most minor business?

    In the Saudi case, this is a government’s judicial system that is imposing this penalty. How is that comparable to a wife or girlfriend beater, whose actions would be considered a crime. Do you think 300 lashes(if done all at once could be fatal)and 18 months in jail is an appropriate response in this woman’s case?

    sorrow01 on March 3, 2010 at 7:35 pm

Don’t be naive to think that violence against Muslim women isn’t happening in this country too. They bring ALL their customs here.

Musiccgirl on March 3, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    Musiccgirl – I agree with you.

    Forget about Saudi Arabia. Has “the National Organization for ugly Women” done or said anything about the Islamic atrocities (i.e. normal Islamic behavior) in this country such as honor killings?

    Who wants to bet that the feminists remain silent when we start hearing about FGM in this country (I am sure it has already happened, we just don’t know about it yet).

    I_AM_ME on March 3, 2010 at 2:31 pm

Why is N.O.W. et al. silent on these atrocities? I understand that politicians pander because of influence and money from muslims, but what reason could women’s rights groups have for not actively and forcefully calling these people out?

DS_ROCKS! on March 3, 2010 at 2:59 pm

I am a muslim and proud.
You seetie are someone who does not know right from wrong.
I feel bad for you honey.
Inshallah Allah will help you when you start to burn in hell.
With much love, Maya

Beautiful Muslim Woman on March 3, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    Is there beauty in lashing a woman three hundred times for filing a harassment complaint? Is this your version of right? I have a feeling that you will be having more problems with in the afterlife than Debbie. Allah is Baal.

    sorrow01 on March 3, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    Seriously! women like you are also responsible for such pathetic situations of women in not only muslim countries but everywhere else. Irrespective of caste or creed ppl like you are not even worth hating or pitied! Ppl like you are pathetic sadist spineless worms(sorry for the insult to worms!)who first of all cannot stand up for their rights,freedom & happiness, but also are cowards! You ppl are certainly going backwards with respect to spiritual journey! God himself has said tat we should fight for our rights! well, at least the nature,his creation, demonstrates so, in many many forms;ex: survival of the fittest,only the ones which are strong tough etc survive.
    my advice to ppl like ” Beautiful Muslim Woman”: ” I know wat its like to be brain washed in the name of religion. But it is our duty to filter the bad and take only the applicable good.And for that you have to think and observe and use religion only to refer to at times. finally each one of us follows our own path,cos each one o us is unique and so is the way we think.If god wanted us to be controlled by men, he wouldnt have given us free will, he would ve just made us puppets. If god, meant for us to be kicked around and ill-treated by men,he wouldnt have given us one of the greatsest strenght, an ability to create miracle:to give birth! If we can give birth,think, is our place only at men’s feet?Being able to reproduce is equivalent God. look around you. His creation, nature ,every single thing will answer ur quetions. “

    Pooja on March 4, 2010 at 2:41 pm

You care way too much about arab based countires.
The crime rate in America is hideous.
How often do people get killed, murdered, and burglarized here in America.
We should pay attention to ourselves rather than caring too much about other countires.

Emily Richard on March 3, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    My, so I guess it is okay to whip a woman to death, and if by some misfortune she happens to survive imprison her for 18 months afterwards. You are a compassionate person, aren’t you?

    sorrow01 on March 3, 2010 at 7:39 pm

[Sol – If you were a TRUE feminist, you would present a balanced case]

I believe Debbie is a “TRUE feminist” (just not a fake, man hating, feminist like the NOW types) and she does present a balanced view.

I_AM_ME on March 3, 2010 at 4:01 pm

Ha! A Saudi Human Rights Commission? That’s gotta be the oxymoron of the year.

True, but “islamic scholar” is the ultimate oxymoron of all-time.

Jim on March 3, 2010 at 4:26 pm

Beautiful Muslim Woman nicely demonstrated how happy Muslims are at the prospect of the non-Muslim world burning in un-speakable agony for eternity. She would undoubtedly buy front-row seats if she could and applaud as her “merciful” god eternally tortured us infidels.

Do you feel the love yet?

stevecanuck on March 3, 2010 at 6:08 pm

Folks, it’s plain to any anthropologist that polygamy is a cultural, rather than religious aberration. Mohammed (if he really existed) was raised in a culture that marginalized women, so he naturally practiced the tenets of his peers. Obviously, these “men” were misogynistic control-freaks of the highest order who chose to embrace that unfortunate trait down through the centuries. We Western “men” were of a similar, albeit less strident, mindset until only recently. Bottom line, ladies? Get your s**t together and make yourselves unavailable to jealous, insecure momma’s boys who seek only to objectify you!

Graty Slapchop on March 3, 2010 at 7:21 pm

Hey Maya the Ugly Muslim Woman…get a better grasp of the English language. Have fun worshiping in your false religion!

Angela04 on March 4, 2010 at 9:32 am

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