June 22, 2010, - 3:29 pm

HA!: Val Kilmer Gets His For Dissing Vietnam Vets

By Debbie Schlussel

Remember Val Kilmer from “Top Gun,” “The Doors,” and, now, Fat Men Hate America?

For the record, I’m against the government withholding permits or otherwise punishing someone for exercising his/her First Amendment speech rights, even if what the person said is reprehensible, as in Kilmer’s case.  But, since he dissed Vietnam Vets who could beat his fat ass all the way to China, I enjoy watching him squirm (even though I oppose it–government should never tell you what to say or how to say it).


The Iceman Cometh: Val Kilmer Pays a Tiny Price for Dissing Vietnam Vets

I couldn’t care less what he has to say about New Mexico or its residents (though it’s funny to read his chutzpahdik utterances about them). It’s what he says about the brave American men–thousands of whom died in Vietnam in contrast to him living in comfort in a candy-assed profession–that’s the outrage. That’s what’s truly offensive.  The exact opposite of “Real Genius” (the title of a bad ’80s movie in which he starred).

When actor Val Kilmer recently applied for permits to turn his 6,000-acre ranch outside Santa Fe into an upscale bed-and-breakfast, several of his neighbors protested. . . .

They were incensed about comments attributed to Mr. Kilmer in magazine articles dating to 2003 and 2005. And they didn’t want him to get his way on the ranch unless he apologized. . . .

Mr. Kilmer, who starred in “Tombstone,” “The Doors,” “Batman Forever” and, more recently, “MacGruber,” was quoted—misquoted, he says—describing his rugged corner of New Mexico as “the homicide capital of the Southwest.”

He went on to avow that “80% of the people in my county are drunk,” requiring him to carry a gun for protection. That was in a 2003 interview with Rolling Stone.

In Esquire two years later, Mr. Kilmer was quoted—again, misquoted, he says—opining that he understands Vietnam better than its veterans, because most of them were “borderline criminal or poor … wretched kids” who landed in the military because they “got beat up by their dads” or “couldn’t finagle a scholarship.”

Sorry, but I don’t believe he was misquoted. That’s what celebs always say . . . when they start to endure the backlash for saying what they really think.

At a hearing last month on Mr. Kilmer’s application, a half-dozen locals and veterans demanded the star apologize before being allowed to welcome paying guests onto his Pecos River Ranch. The county attorney, Jesus Lopez, backed them up. Mr. Kilmer’s quotes were “incendiary” and, dated as they may be, created a “clear and present danger threatening public safety,” he said.

Taken aback by the outrage, the San Miguel County Commission opted to postpone debate on the permits. The next day, Alex Tafoya, the planning and zoning director, wrote Mr. Kilmer’s ranch manager to explain that “your application will remain tabled until Mr. Kilmer appears personally before the Board of County Commissioners” to answer questions about his alleged remarks.

See, that’s where they’re not only stretching things. They’re violating the law. You can’t refuse someone’s zoning request on the grounds that their quotes are incendiary and cause a public safety threat. Since when have they refused to zone a mosque for that reason (which, in that case, would be more valid)? I’m not holding my breath. Nor can they demand that he “apologize” or “answer questions” about remarks in magazine interviews.

But, still, I enjoy that he’s finally getting a tad of a hard time that Jane Fonda and the many other celebs who dissed our Vietnam Vets did not.

But no worries. The ACLU has predictably stepped in and Kilmer will suffer no more.

The commission has called a June 23 hearing. Officials say they expect Mr. Kilmer to be there.

Mr. Kilmer, who flirted last year with a run for governor, has lived in New Mexico for decades. Last year, he put his ranch up for sale for $33 million, but it failed to sell.

Pecos River Ranch websites dated 2005 and 2008 offer descriptions of the lodging, daily rates and advice for tourists (bring sunscreen and bug repellent; “kindly refrain” from taking Mr. Kilmer’s photo should you spot the star). That suggests Mr. Kilmer has opened his lodge to paying guests in the past. But county officials say the ranch has never had the permits for it.

Mr. Salazar, the commission chair, acknowledges that, apology or not, the county is bound by law to consider the permit application on its merits. Still, he said, “you never know what might happen.”

Yeah, you never know. Wish I could be there to see the non-aerobic version of Jane Fonda get some grief.

Some protesters vow to keep up the pressure, even if Mr. Kilmer does show up this week, ten-gallon hat in hand.

“An apology isn’t good enough. He’s insulted and hurt too many people,” said Abran Tapia, a veteran and local resident. “People here want him out of New Mexico.”

Better yet–how about out of America?  Maybe he can make like his alter ego, Jim Morrison, and go away.

One thing is for certain:  Val Kilmer’s definitely written the epitaph on the “Tombstone” of his New Mexico political career.

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21 Responses

Hey Loser, I mean, Hey Val:

I join your neighbors. In addition, I will boycott anything in which you are involved.

How do you like that? I will hit you square in the pocketbook.

As goes Israel - so goes the World on June 22, 2010 at 4:01 pm

Didn’t he pocket enough money from all of his movies? Why does he need to open a dude ranch? And how long would it take a few B&B guests each night to amortize a $33 million investment? Sounds like he’s shooting for tax fraud – another limousine liberal telling us to foot the bill for Obamacre while they hide their income via legal shenaigans and creative accounting.

DS_ROCKS! on June 22, 2010 at 5:16 pm

What a cake eating piece of s–t. Glad to see he’s inconvenienced for now. Girly mannnn.

samurai on June 22, 2010 at 6:11 pm

Looks like Val Kilmer’s lack of will power to push away from the table won out over his ego. Wonder how many Vets and patriots bot tickets to his movies over the years…I would not piss on his property…and hope the city council and the locals torment him for a good while…pudgie piece of unpatriotic schizzle…

F-22 on June 22, 2010 at 6:13 pm

“I drank what”?

MarySJ on June 22, 2010 at 9:03 pm

Re: from Debbie’s post.

“Better yet [referring to Val Kilmer]–how about out of America? Maybe he can make like his alter ego, Jim Morrison, and go away.”


JeffE on June 22, 2010 at 10:03 pm

I met the guy years ago. He wore sandals with painted toenails. He had a bit of an attitude as well, and acted like an asshole. I said “sign this please”….and he whined as if I actually wanted his autograph. I clarified that he needed to sign his Customs Declaration, then yelled out “next passenger!” as to further ignore him. Sorry, not impressed.

#1 Vato on June 22, 2010 at 10:29 pm

Sooooo disappointed, especially after his awesome performance as Doc Holiday in Tombstone (heavy sigh with eye roll and head shake)

T. Y. on June 22, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    so i guess he knows about agent orange , or losing a limb, or ptsd ,or in my case they pulled so more shrapnel out last week 42 years later i have a jar full of of it now , i am sure his jar is bigger

    tony on June 15, 2013 at 11:07 am


fan on June 22, 2010 at 11:12 pm

As a Vietnam Vet myself, a Navy vet in case anyone is interested and no I did not see combat but spent the better part of my first enlistment in the Gulf of Tonkin. Anyway if I were to get upset at every stoopid comment made by every stoopid Hollyweird werido I’d never get any rest. I let my wallet do my talking for me by simply not buying, renting or seeing movies with arrogant fat ass morons like Kilmer. Remember, revenge is a dish best served cold.

kenny komodo on June 23, 2010 at 1:47 am

Pig. Confuses celebrity and entertainment with intelligence.

pat on June 23, 2010 at 2:21 am

Don’t forget his starring in the Leonard Peltier apalogia, “BRAVEHEART”. Clown…

Marc on June 23, 2010 at 9:22 am

The best ‘revenge’ would to place Val’s quotes on billboards leading up to his B&B so that his ‘guests’ can fully appreciate how their host feels about his neighbors.

Stoker on June 23, 2010 at 9:34 am

Even if that wussy-boy was old enough to serve during in Vietnam, his rich Daddy and Mommy would have gotten his spoon-fed ass out of it.

patrick on June 23, 2010 at 12:11 pm

This guy did a movie in the late eighties I like called Kill Me Again” a great low budget flick he did with his ex-wife Veronica Walley. Also I liked him as Batman its a shame he’s such a wiseacre he’s not qualified to shine a soldiers corframs let alone comment on their service to God an Country. The problem with poeple like this is if you were to step to him an give him the pounding he deserves you’d be the in trouble for assault.

THE LORD THOR on June 23, 2010 at 3:25 pm

Wow,he’s looking pretty bad…one too many beers??

freedom4usa on June 24, 2010 at 12:58 pm

Hey Val, you lard-ass piece of s**t…..you don’t rate to shine a veteran’s boots you pampered coward hollywood elite douchebag. I used to like you for your acting, but now I wouldn’t waste a piss to put you out if you were on fire. People like you will never realize the gift that veterans have given you………so f**k off.

Vernon Lohn on June 24, 2010 at 3:45 pm

Once again, a know-nothing B-list actor is voicing an opinion that will only be of value to confirmed left-wing loonies. If these guys want to do something worthwhile they should go into medicine or law or engineering. Of course, that requires above average intelligence which is sadly lacking in Hollywood.

Mike Hornstein on June 30, 2010 at 9:36 pm

Nobody knows Vietnam better than the Nam Vets. When you see them in a Memorial Day Parade, clap for them, they deserve it.

Truth on July 19, 2010 at 1:01 pm

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