January 10, 2011, - 12:19 pm

“Climate of Hate?”: Murdered Judge Was w/ Giffords About Illegal Alien Prob

By Debbie Schlussel

The most notable thing about Saturday’s Safeway massacre, aside from the lives tragically lost, is the plethora of hypocrites and blame-gamer attention whores who’ve predictably crawled out from under their rocks.


As I noted Saturday evening, ABC News and the other mainstream media outlets wasted no time blaming Saturday’s Safeway massacre by Jared Lee Loughner on supporters of Arizona’s immigration law and secure borders.  And you’ve seen the rest of the left-wing blame gamers’ coterie of conservative targets in assigning guilt for the work of a lone nut, left-wing gunman, an MSNBC fan.

The worst of the cast of blame-gaming attention whores in this whole saga is Pima County Sheriff Clarence “the Doompa” Dupnik.  If there was ever a man with an apt surname, it’s that clown.  Talk about a super-duper duper with his “climate of hate” baloney.  I guess this guy never heard of the First Amendment . . . or of the fact that Phoenix is the kidnapping capital of the U.S. because of the illegal alien invasion of Arizona.  Please belately add “climate of hate” to the list of banned words and phrases put out in the last weeks of 2010.  When liberals say “climate of hate,” what they really mean is “Free speech for me, but not for you.”

Still, barely mentioned in this whole media frenzy is the reason why murdered Federal Judge John M. Roll was at the fateful and fatal supermarket meeting with Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.  It’s a reason that’s apparently lost on blind, deaf, and dumb media whore Sheriff Dupnik:  the illegal alien problem in Arizona that was clogging Judge Roll’s courts.  But, hey, saying so must make me–and Judge Roll!–“hatemongers” purveying the “climate of hate.”

Judge Roll, 63 years old, attended the event Saturday in Tucson to thank Rep. Gabrielle Giffords for signing a letter to Judge Alex Kozinski, the chief judge of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, according to Michael Daly Hawkins, a judge on the court.

The letter was intended to help persuade the court to declare his federal district a judicial emergency due to the high number of immigration cases that were being heard there. Such a declaration would trigger measures such as allowing judges to delay a trial because of strained resources.

Unfortunately, Judge Roll–nominated by President George H.W. Bush–had a mixed record on enforcing the law in the illegal alien invasion, yet more evidence that many Republicans appoint federal judges who just aren’t reliable to always do the right and sensible thing on the bench.

The judge was also fair-minded, said Richard Martinez, a Tucson attorney. Mr. Martinez appeared before Judge Roll in a high-profile 2005 lawsuit filed by Mexican immigrants who claimed that their civil rights had been violated by Arizona ranchers who had detained them at gunpoint after they crossed the border.

In 2009, Judge Roll denied the ranchers’ motion to dismiss the case, a ruling that earned him scorn from some . . . . In 2005, . . . he dismissed a lawsuit against the U.S. Department of the Interior by the families of 11 illegal immigrants who died crossing the Arizona desert.

So, we know why Judge Roll was at the meeting: to thank Giffords for trying to declare his courthouse a judicial emergency because the illegal alien invasion was wreaking havoc upon it, just as it is on the streets of Tucson and elsewhere. How sad that, despite this, the County Sheriff, Dupnik, is utterly clueless of the situation and, instead, calls those in Arizona who point it out–including Judge Roll–contributors to this nebulous “climate of hate.”

A Tucson Citizen report claimed that Mexican shoppers add a billion dollars annually to the Tucson economy.  But as Judge Roll’s judicial emergency shows, they probably add more than a billion dollars in legal headaches, drains on the system, and even bloodshed of innocent Americans.

And as for that “climate of hate,” apparently if we who support secure borders are guilty of creating that and of the massacre by a left-wing nut at Safeway, then I guess Judge Super-Duper Duper Dupnik is just as guilty.  From a 2009 Tucson Citizen report:

Dupnik, a Democrat, said at a news conference last week that 40 percent of the students in the Sunnyside Unified School District were in the country illegally and that the South, Southwest and West sides had high crime rates linked to illegal immigration.

Hmmm . . . Pot. Kettle. Black. Well, at least, he tells the truth when it won’t get him on FOX News and CNN.

“Climate of hate” . . . or climate of brutal, honest truth?

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21 Responses


There was that John B poster who poured out his anti-Semitism on YOU on Saturday.

When they talk of a “climate of hate,” the Left needs to go look
in the mirror. My guess is as good as yours it won’t do any soul searching on that… or why they think its wrong for the rest of us to demand we remove illegal aliens from our country and secure our borders.

NormanF on January 10, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    The problem isn’t political speech of any sort; the problem is that, thanks to the ACLU, we can’t force medications on dangerous psychotics for any indefinite length of time, because their “Civil Rights” take precedence over our rights to be safe from madmen.

    In addition, the decision to commit someone to a mental hospital is considered a seperate legal matter than a legal action to force medication on someone; in short, both issues, which to a layperson would seem obviously intertwined, are separated. Check out Riese vs St. Mary’s, which was an idiotic case brought by the ACLU in California.

    Riese v. St. Mary’s Hospital and Medical Center,
    259 Cal. Rptr. 669, 774 P.2d 698 (1989)

    Key Issue: “[A]bsent a judicial determination of incompetence, antipsychotic drugs cannot be administered to involuntarily committed mental patients in non-emergency situations without their informed consent.”

    In short, in layman’s terms—a patient who has been determined to be insane enough to lock up agaist their will NEEDS another court determination to involuntarily medicate except in emergency situations (such as the patient attempting to attack another patient or a staff member.)

    Watch. Not one flippin’ MSM will comment on this.

    Occam's Tool on January 10, 2011 at 2:03 pm

      Dear Norman and Debbie—sorry about the typos. But people ONLY pay attention to commitment and involuntary treatment laws when something like this happens, and they usually blame the doc.

      Posting crazy stuff on the internet would NOT be grounds for involuntary treatment, by itself.

      Oh, have I mentioned that I hate the ACLU? The families in this case ought to sue them out of existence for this.

      Occam's Tool on January 10, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    Congresswoman Giffords is indeed Jewish, identifies as a Jew, is known as a Jewish woman, and was married in a Jewish ceremony. Her background is Jewish enough to merit her right to citizenship in Israel.

    The JTA is reporting a DHS memo indicating that her would-be assassin was indeed motivated by his politicized hatred for Jews. I am praying for her complete healing from this blow.

    JTA News Alert

    January 9, 2010

    Memo notes Giffords’ Judaism in motives of alleged attacker

    (JTA) — A U.S. Department of Homeland Security memo reportedly notes that Gabriel Giffords is Jewish in describing the motives of the Arizona congresswoman’s alleged assailant.

    The memo, obtained by Fox News Channel, says that Jared Lee Loughner mentioned American Renaissance, an extremist anti-immigrant group, in some of his own postings.

    “The group’s ideology is anti-government, anti-immigration, anti-ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government), anti-Semitic,” says the memo sent to law enforcement, which also notes that Giffords, a Democrat, was the first Jewish congresswoman from Arizona.

    Loughner was arrested after Giffords and at least 16 others were shot Saturday at a meet-your-lawmaker event at a Tucson shopping mall. Six people were killed, including a 9-year-old girl and a federal judge, John Roll. Loughner was tackled and arrested. Giffords, a Democrat in her third term, remains in critical condition after being shot in the head.

    Peter Winch on January 10, 2011 at 4:53 pm

When John Hinkley attacked Reagan in 1981, it wasn’t the result of Democratic demonization of Reagan, but his obsession with Jody Foster. Nut-jobs like the Tucson attacker aren’t stirred by political climates, but by their own internal demons. Those suffering from paranoia and schizophrenia often manifest their mental disturbances long before they act – as apparently was the case with fellow students at his community college who were frightened by his very presence.

It is indecent of left-wingers and Democratic operatives to exploit this incident, to not let this crisis “go to waste”. As to Dupnik, if his office is elective, I hope the electorate shows good sense in the next election by voting him out.

Raymond in DC on January 10, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Raymond, Tucson is Democrat-friendly territory. One wishes he would be given the boot but I have my doubts.

    It has emerged that Gabrielle Giffords is NOT halachically Jewish, she IS a Reform Jew and her mother is not Jewish. Still, what’s interesting about the angle here is no one has even mentioned the attack on her might in part be due to anti-Semitism. If it had been a Muslim instead of Jared Loughner, I think we would have seen all the usual apologists trot out to tell us that Islam has nothing to do with anti-Semitism.

    The people making the attacks have their own self serving agenda. In Debbie’s own words, that’s the real “climate of brutal, honest truth” on display in this country today.

    NormanF on January 10, 2011 at 12:54 pm

Correction: it was Robert B…. but my point stands. When he talked about indicting the Right as accessories to a crime with which it has nothing to do, he meant America. Which as I observed, he hated as much as as hated the Jews and Israel. Again, will we see them look at the festering hate that’s so evident on their side as with all the spilled newsprint and torrent of know-nothing commentaries from leftist TV talking heads and radio boobs prattling about how conservatives have allegedly engineered “hate” in America?

As in NOT!

NormanF on January 10, 2011 at 12:47 pm

Why doesn’t any of the news organizations point out, that the guy was a leftist and was probably mad at The person from his own party for not being Left enough?

sal on January 10, 2011 at 1:01 pm

Sheriff “Dumpling” Dupnik is apparently better able to impersonate a community organizer(race baiter) than perform any law enforcement tasks. I shudder to think that such a partisan hack is going to supervising the investigation of this case. With Sheriff Dupnik making such off the wall statements, Governor Brewer should consider having the State of Arizona take over this investigation. I wonder how his deputies feel about his remarks?

Worry01 on January 10, 2011 at 1:06 pm

There have been a few Jewish blogs that have identified the attack as potentially anti-Semitic, although no major news outlets or politicians have done so to my knowledge.

And of course the common denominator of Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto is anti=semitism.

But even if this person had been influenced by conservatives, it is not a justification for restricting their speech– no one can be responsible for how a nut might interpret something –(and don’t be surprised if they get this guy to say something about how he was supposedly influenced by conservatives; they have him in captivity and might try to manipulate him to say something like that.)

Little Al on January 10, 2011 at 1:33 pm

You guys have to realize that this twerpy kid, Jared Loughner is a diehard left winger and diehard leftist, his former friends admitted that, and that’s a fact not an opinion. Also, from what I’ve read about his profile on “youtube”, he was a diehard fan of Karl Marx and Adolph Hitler, therefore he read Das Kapital, Communist Manifesto, Mein Kampf, etc. Those are PROVEN FACTS, I am NOT parroting Fox News (which I am not a fan of BTW) or the so-called conservative establishment, all of that was reported about this kid and it’s still on his profile on youtube.

As for this Sheriff, he’s a classic dumbass who’s bidding the left wing propaganda agenda BS! He had the nerve to blame this incident on talk radio? WTF Sheriff Dumpass, are you telling me that the host on conservative talk radio have some type of star wars mind control and told this pot-smoking loser to fire the trigger on those innocent people? Sheriff Dumpass, your a complete jackass and a phony and you should stepdown for playing politics with this incident! It’s too bad we have activist judges in this country, the last thing we need are activist sheriffs or activist police officiers to corrupt those who enforce the law.

“A nation is identified by it’s borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on January 10, 2011 at 1:53 pm

What disturbs me about this dumbass sheriff is he’s spouting hateful political rhetoric instead of speaking to the facts as known.

Instead of acting like a responsible lawman,he’s being a political partisan.


ebayer on January 10, 2011 at 1:59 pm

And listening to the news channels is one of the most pathetic things of all. While I agree this is a horrible incident, the coverage is as bad as the Princess Diana soap opera that went on and on. If you turn off the sound, and look at the facial expressions and body language, you would think that the newscasters and interviewees are saying profound things. And then you turn the sound on, and realize that all these earnest and seemingly intelligent facial expressions are masking discussions almost 100% vacuous (the reports on Rep.Giffords’ recovery, prognosis and what’s going on with the other victims, could be done in a couple of minutes).

Little Al on January 10, 2011 at 2:51 pm

Why didn’t sheriff dumbkopf have someone up on the stage watching the crowd to insure that nothing unseemly happened.

Looks like the typical Liberal shooting off his mouth without doing anything to keep the people safe.

Facts Life on January 10, 2011 at 3:03 pm


Jared Loughner is so insane that he does not have the capacity to be leftwing, rightwing or no-wing. This is not a case like that of Nidal Malik Hasan, who was propagandized.

Loughner is so insane that he cannot put a coherent sentence together. That is why the police are reporting that he is not cooperating with them. What the police are not telling us is that he probably can’t cooperate because he’s schizophrenic. The kid is too mentally ill to know whether he’s leftwing. You got the “nut” part right, but the “leftwing” wrong.

Loughner is so sick, the blame-game doesn’t even remotely apply. That was not the case with the Fort Hood massacre.

I do hope you notice that I took issue early on with Sheriff Dupnik’s press conference. If there was a reason for the media feeding frenzy, it can be directly attributed to his comments that the tragedy was motivated by “bigotry”.

Where was Sheriff Dupnik when Dr. Nidal Malik Hasan went on a shooting rampage at Fort Hood? How come nobody in the LIB news media took issue with the “inflammatory rhetoric” emanating from Islamic clerics in American mosques? At least in Dr. Hasan’s case the issue was relevant.

In Loughner’s case, politics and public policy is hardly relevant. Unlike Dr. Hasan, Loughner was so mentally ill, he couldn’t make it through his local Community College let alone get through medical school. As the facts on Loughner become more clear, I hope more people re-visit the Fort Hood Massacre and recall how the media treated the political incitement issue with kid gloves.

There is NO Santa Claus on January 10, 2011 at 3:08 pm

He’s no cooperating not because of schizophrenia. He was read his Miranda rights and chose to remain silent.

Allen on January 10, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    Plus apparently Timothy McVeigh’s lawyer IMMEDIATELY stepped up to the plate and took on this guy’s defense. Another media whore. I suspect HE is instrumental in keeping the shooter quiet. Of course, if the shooter is aware enough to keep his mouth shut in jail, then he better have a hard time invoking the insanity defense in court.

    DG in GA on January 11, 2011 at 1:40 pm

Little Al, your right, we don’t need activist lawmen politicizing this shooting incident to bid for either the left wing or the right wing, they need to investigate the shooting of Rep. Giffords instead of being shill-hacks for either the left or the right. And I cannot watch cable news anymore, hell, I haven’t watch cable news since the 2008 elections, and even back then I seldomly watched cable news. Nowadays cable news is kinda like adult films (yes I watch adult films every once in a while), and I have more respect for people in the adult industry then I do for those in the left wing media. To TINSC, during the Fort Hood shootings the vermin the media didn’t condemn Nidal Hassan for killing those poor people in the name of islam, and still til this day the fellow-travelling apologist in the media HASN’T condemn Hassan for his terrorist acts against Fort Hood, and we all know why, so I don’t have to expalin why.

“A nation is identified by it’s borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on January 10, 2011 at 3:55 pm

Oh and BTW folks, take a good hard look at the picture of this moronic activist sheriff, doens’t this ass look alot like anti-semite “Pat Buchanan”? To me this sheriff does look like that jew-hater Pat Buchanan, and when I first saw his face on television over the weekend, I thought I saw Pat Buchanan giving a press conference speech about the shooting of Ms. Giffords!

“A nation is identified by it’s borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on January 10, 2011 at 4:16 pm

This blame game reminds me of the idiocy when Chapman shot John Lennon. Remember the wise folks who proclaimed ” Chapman didn’t kill him. We ALL killed him”. So now it’s the conservatives who did this ??? But the Ft Hood murderer certainly did not shoot out of a political motive, right???? …The world IS upside down. ..Sean, interesting pt about herr Buchanan there. …maybe there’s some common genetic material between the two???

Not Ovenready on January 10, 2011 at 4:35 pm


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