December 12, 2007, - 10:36 am

Bush’s “Democratic” Extremist Iraq: Policewomen Ordered to Turn in Guns, Sent to Desk Duty

By Debbie Schlussel
After American spent gazillions of your tax dollars in training Iraqi women to use guns and patrol the streets as police officers, the extremist Shi’ite government of Iraq decided to make that spending yet another complete waste.
Last month, the Iraqi government–you know the one that Bush claimed, in his silly, fatal democracy experiment, would treat women with respect and restore human rights–ordered all women serving in its police forces to turn over their guns for redistribution to men and reassigned all of these women to desk duty. Hmmm . . . so why did we waste all of this money training them to shoot and patrol streets? Judging from the picture in the news story, I’m not so sure this is the kind of police force–in the full ninja Islamic chick outfit–that we had in mind. But still, this is yet more proof that giving the Iraq sector of Greater Barbaria “democracy” was yet another exercise in HAMASHezbollahMuslimBrotherhoodKhomeiniSadr idiocy.


And–surprise!–not a peep from the Gloria Steinems, Martha Burks, and assorted other looks-challenged feministas in the angry American chicks crowd. How long ’til it becomes a Shi’ite replica of Saudia Arabia where women can’t drive? Counting the seconds. Allahu Akbar:

The Iraqi government has ordered all policewomen to hand in their guns for redistribution to men or face having their pay withheld, thwarting a U.S. initiative to bring women into the nation’s police force.
The Interior Ministry, which oversees the police, issued the order late last month, according to ministry documents, U.S. officials and several of the women. It affects all officers who have earned the title “policewoman” by graduating from the police academy. It does not apply to men in the same type of jobs.
Critics say the move is the latest sign of the religious and cultural conservatism that has taken hold in Iraq since Saddam Hussein’s ouster ushered in a government dominated by Shiite Muslims. Now, that tendency is hampering efforts to bring stability to Iraq by driving women from the force, said U.S. Army Brig. Gen. David Phillips, who has led the effort to recruit female officers.
“We nursed it along,” he said last week, referring to the recruiting effort. . . . Without policewomen, Phillips said, there will be no officers to give pat-down searches to female suspects, even though women have joined the ranks of suicide bombers in Iraq. Last week, a female bomber killed at least 16 people north of Baghdad, at least the fifth such attack in Iraq this year.
Another U.S. advisor noted that forcing out female officers will hamper investigation of crimes such as rape, which stigmatizes women in Iraq, because few victims feel comfortable reporting it to policemen.
Policewomen say the decree also will leave them unable to protect themselves at work or off duty. Scores of police employees, both officers and administrative workers, have been killed by insurgents. Men and women have traditionally been allowed to carry their Glock pistols with them after hours for security.
“We are considered policewomen. We face kidnapping. We could be assassinated. If anyone knew where we worked, of course they would try to do something to us,” said a 27-year-old interviewed Sunday.
“How can I be a policewoman without a weapon?” she asked incredulously as three female colleagues nodded in agreement. [DS: I ask the same thing about those silly people in strange uniforms in England. Clubs and night sticks don’t get it done.]
They, and Phillips, said the pistol recall was the latest in a series of moves that has limited most policewomen to desk jobs. The few who have worked on the streets have been reassigned to administrative tasks.
Iraqi law still prevents policewomen from advancing to commanding-officer levels. Phillips said women have complained to him about limited opportunities and harassment by male colleagues.
U.S. trainers began recruiting women in early 2004 and were so swamped with applicants that they had to turn many away. By the end of that year, about 1,000 women had graduated. Since U.S. authorities handed over responsibility for police recruitment and training to Iraqi authorities in February 2006, Phillips said, the number of female recruits has dropped to virtually zero.
A handful of policewomen are working in western Al Anbar province after graduating from the academy in October, but Phillips said they were recruited, trained and paid with U.S. funds under a program not recognized by the Iraqi government.
“When we stop paying, they stop getting paid,” Phillips said.

How much did we waste on this? What’s the dollar figure?

Phillips, who works closely with Interior Ministry officials, said he got wind of the latest move to rein in female officers last month. When he questioned the plan, Phillips said, he was told by one ministry official: “Females are taken care of by men in this country. They are not out there being police officers.”

Yes, they are, indeed, “taken care of.” Honor killings, forced honor “suicides,” female terrorists and homicide bombers, jihadi soldier baby-making factories, muta’aeen [temporary marriages for sex, the women get nothing after instant divorce; it’s a shi’ite practice that was outlawed under Saddam and is now all the rage], human punching bags, one of four wives, etc. Yup, taken car of.

The ministry has been “whittling away step by step” at the initiative launched by U.S. troops in late 2003, Phillips said.
Attempts to get a ministry official to explain the weapons order were unsuccessful. The official spokesman did not respond to telephone messages. . . .
Men who hold office jobs at the ministry are being allowed to keep their weapons, the women added.
There are more than 8,600 Glock pistols, the standard police-issued sidearm, in the main weapons warehouse in Baghdad, he said. An additional 120,000 are due to arrive in the coming months, he said.

Gee, who’s paying for those Glocks? Let me guess. Take out your wallets, my fellow Americans.

The impact of the growing religious influence on Iraqi women has manifested itself in other ways as well. In the southern city of Basra, police say religious militants this year have killed dozens of women who did not cover their hair or dress modestly. In Baghdad, once a secular metropolis, it is rare to see women without scarves covering their hair. Women’s activists say the new constitution clears the way for Islamic rule by guaranteeing individuals the right to decide domestic and family issues according to religious traditions.
The U.S. attempt to recruit female police officers faced hurdles from the start. Phillips said that although hundreds of women have gone through the police academy and performed as well as, if not better than, men, few have been given assignments outside the office.

Your tax dollars at work, er . . . desk duty.

Despite the ministry order, the women said they would not hand in their weapons. If their pay is withheld at the end of the month, they plan to stage a protest.
They added that they were counting on U.S. authorities to back them up and force the ministry to back off.
Phillips, though, said U.S. officials have limited options.
“It’s a sovereign nation. We turned over the running of their own police force to them,” he said. “We don’t have a veto.”

Yes, so sovereign, they need us to endlessly bankroll them and keep “order” on their streets. Otherwise, it is total chaos. After everything we’ve done for these people, that we don’t have a “veto” over this BS is absurd. Think that’ll change in 20 years of us being there? Think again–you don’t know Islam.
On the lighter side, this whole idea wouldn’t even be a good idea at the highest levels of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in the U.S. ICE’s incompetent female “leadership” of Julie L. Myers and Marcy Forman-Friedman are basically at full-time desk duty (killing more than their fair share of trees issuing repeated puff press releases), anyway, and they never use guns–they just make life miserable for those in their agency who do.
Anyway, I’ve been repeatedly screaming that handing democracy to the religion of headchoppers simply will never work in our favor. It will only solidify extremism.
And this is yet more proof. But no surprise.
Did I support going into Iraq? Yes. Did I support staying there and giving them “democracy”? Hell, no. I supported getting in, removing Saddam, turning over the country to a Shah-esque, pro-U.S. dictator and getting out. Had we done that, Bush would be a hero. Barbarians cannot handle democracy. It only hurts America when they get it.
But instead of facing this fact, Bush–as we know–is into this whole “Islam is peace” and needs democracy BS. And that’s why we have stories like this.

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7 Responses

Hugh Fitzgerald @ Jihad Watch has been way ahead on this. Once we won the first part of the war – getting rid of Saddam and not finding WMDs, we should have pulled out. Staying on to build a Jeffersonian democracy out of a piece of Shite never made any sense.
This criticism ain’t the same as the anti-war criticism from the pro-Islamic Left. In short – ousting Saddam was the right thing to do. Preventing a civil war in Iraq wasn’t, isn’t and won’t be. Only part I disagree w/ you – don’t bother installing a Shah like pro US dictator – instead let anarchy reign, and just make sure that neither side – Shia or Sunni – has the upper hand. They can’t sponsor Jihad against us when they are too busy killing each other.

Infidel Pride on December 12, 2007 at 5:56 pm

The Iraqi Police and Army should only have M16A2s. That way the enemy can’t use the ammo and the weapon can’t be easily concealed. Flooding the area with Glocks is going to make the assassins very happy. No legitimate Police officer or Iraqi Army soldier would be short changed with a rifle that is easily recognized by our own soldiers. Sure, some are going to fall into the hands of the bad guys but that would single out the insurgent for further questioning and the serial number would provide clues to its provenance. Glock and the Austrian Nazi pukes have some sort of inside track in our government; and its shareholders can suppress any unfavorable news item. Extremely poor White House and Pentagon back-room dealing with so-called allies is no doubt responsible for throwing gas on the fire over there like buying Glocks and AKs.

code7 on December 12, 2007 at 8:06 pm

Believing that the “surge” is working is similar to a doctor believing that he is succeeding because he has made some significant progress getting an infection under control with an antibiotic, even while the patient he is treating for an infection at the same time has multi organ cancer that is not being treated and probably can not be. No matter how much work our Soldiers and Marines do and no matter how many tactical successes they may have does not change that.
Trying to promote democracy, like what we think of in the west as being democracy, with such things like liberty and humans rights as accompaniments, in Iraq, or pretty much any Islamic country, is like planting seeds in toxic soil.
The seeds will not grow.

feralcat9 on December 13, 2007 at 1:33 am

“The inconvenient truth is that the West should be exporting secularism around the world before it exports democracy. Democracy implies not just one person one vote, but no less important, that the political process proceeds by rational means, by argument, by persuasion, and is based on knowledge that is as objective, as scientific, as one can
make it. The objective knowledge has to come first.”
– By Peter Watson

feralcat9 on December 13, 2007 at 2:04 am

Trying to build democracy, like what we see democracy as being like anyway, in Iraq, is like trying to build a Starship out of mud and straw.

feralcat9 on December 13, 2007 at 2:09 am

Fitzgerald labels the Iraq misadventure as “Tarbaby Iraq” and makes a forceful arguments to simply leave, now. He has been arguing for withdrawal since 2004 but for reasons other than the standard leftist/pacifist opposition. He also argues that we should make it known that withdrawal should not be viewed as a jihadist victory and suggests we re-engage jihadist encroachments on the edges of Islam such as in southern Sudan and Kasmir, address Iran and islamification of Europe.
The democracy project is a sad joke. This story illustrates this. There are at least 3 articles of the Iraq constitution that this “no females with guns” policy violates. I list those articles on my blog.
If you agree that democratic, free independent Iraq is not possible then why are we still there? Are you too waiting for “victory”? Or, do you support an immdiate withdrawal?

USorThem on December 13, 2007 at 9:49 pm

As long as Western Countries (America being one of the worst) have no fault divorce and the totalitarian family courts when women can break a marriage contract and not only don’t compensate the man but want his money and complete control of the children even though she is breaking up the marriage which is unlike any other contract business or otherwise and is completely marxist type ideology. Even in MEN THAT ARE MARRIED they are afraid to be involved because they know what can be done to them if the wife feels jealous in any way and men that ARE INVOLVED are MORE LIKELY TO BE CUT OFF AND STUDIES SHOW THIS in a divorce. The West is going to be hated if this continues and who are we to tell others about human rights. Soilders in Iraq have been put in prison when they came home for child support payments they could not make for obvious reasons. It can’t see anything more demoralizing then this. You are fighting “for freedom” yet have no rights to your own children Stephen Baskerville has an article about this from 2005 and just wrote a book Taken into Custody (33/33 gave it 5 stars on amazon) about the vicious war against fathers and the family in general and this needs to end if we want others to take us seriously and it would help the MORAL of our men which I think is very low.

adam6275 on December 16, 2007 at 12:05 pm

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