June 16, 2008, - 12:22 pm

ABSURD: ACLU Investigating Rink’s Amount of Ice Time to Hockey vs. Figure Skating

By Debbie Schlussel

What ever happened to supply and demand? Well, if you run an ice rink, you can’t worry about that any longer when divvying up ice time.
Unless you want the ACLU on your tail.
The Michigan ACLU is investigating an ice rink owned and operated by the Detroit suburb of Plymouth, claiming that when it cut a skating program to accommodate hockey teams, it discriminated against girls in favor of boys.
Yes, this–in addition to fighting on behalf of Islamic terrorists–is what parades as “civil rights,” these days.
New ACLU “Civil Rights”: Them . . .


Versus Them . . .

The fact is that more people–men and women–are interested in playing hockey than are interested in figure skating. Yes, there was a blip of higher interest in the gaudy-costumed, gliding form of boredom, a decade ago, when Tonya and Nancy were feuding. But that’s dissipated.
And I’m just not sure what these liberals want. When far fewer girls were interested in masculine sports like hockey, they pushed girls to don the pads and hold the sticks and play (even though it hasn’t changed that no-one cares who wins the Olympic Women’s Hockey event). Now that more women are acting like men and playing hockey, they suddenly think there should be more of the feminine figure skating (maybe so they can encourage more effeminate guys to take part).
Now, the ACLU wants to impose artificial constraints, rather than economics and level of interest, to pick winners and losers in sports. Hardly the American way.
In the struggling Michigan economy, canceling the figure skating program and giving more ice time to hockey will generate more than double the $32,200 revenue the skating rink generates for the city. Hockey teams can afford it. Figure skating programs can’t.
In a free market, parents who want their daughters (and girlie-boys) to learn to figure skate can surely find another rink which caters to that interest and provides the ice time. I’m not exactly worried about America losing the chintz-on-ice race to Bin Laden. Are you?
But who cares about economics, when finding a non-existent discrimination issue is more important?
And since they’re so interested about alleged gender discrimination, where is the ACLU and its lawyers when it comes to college and grad school admissions, overwhelmingly female? Strictly crickets chirping.
The ACLU–protecting Islamic terrorists and female figure skaters. Great service to America.
**** UPDATE, 06/17/08: Reader/Blogger Howard of Oraculations writes:

Two kids involved in kids hockey. The owners of ice rinks around here were all throwing in the towel because they had no revenue. “Somebody??” did a financial analysis and came to the conclusion that without hockey no ice rink could remain solvent, much less make a profit. Result? At least around here, the hockey ice time is sold out on a 24-7 basis.
The resulting time for the rich only white girls (every lesson is individual one on one and when you put in ice time plus instruction it comes to huge money per individual) while sold out, the number of girls on the ice at any one time is four and sometimes less. Recreational ice time for everyone to skate is now crowded but open only three hours per day per two rink facility, and even this time is expensive as hell.
This is typical ACLU posturing for rich liberals, and rich liberals only.

7 Responses

[What ever happened to supply and demand?]
This is not about supply and demand but price gauging. The city changed the payment structure from $10/skater to $255 an hour for collective usage. Obviously the hockey programs will have an easier time spreading those costs to their skaters than the figure skating program. This rink is not a private institution, it exists to serve the public.
[In a free market, parents who want their daughters (and girlie-boys) to learn to figure skate can surely find another rink which caters to that interest and provides the ice time.]
I’m sure you can tell that to Laine Richards:
Deb, have a heart for once.

Norman Blitzer on June 16, 2008 at 1:17 pm

My ex’s mother told me I have no culture because I hate figure skating.

sandy on June 16, 2008 at 5:12 pm

The most straightforward advice on how to discover your true nature is this: practice not causing harm to anyone neither yourself nor others and every day, do what you can to help.
If you take this instruction to heart and begin to use it, you will probably find very quickly that it is not so easy. Often, before you know it, someone has provoked you and either directly or indirectly, you’ve let them have it. Therefore, when the intention is sincere but the going gets rough, most of us could use some help. We could use further instruction on how to lighten up and turn around our well-established habits of striking out and blaming.
The four methods for holding your seat provide just such support for developing the patience to stay open to what’s happening, instead of acting on automatic pilot. These four methods are:
Not setting up the target for the arrow
Connecting with the heart
Seeing obstacles as teachers
First, if you have not set up the target it cannot be hit by an arrow. This is to say that each time you retaliate with words and actions that hurt, you are strengthening the habit of anger. Then, without doubt, plenty of arrows will always be coming your way.

jmpw on June 16, 2008 at 6:01 pm

Plymouth has not factored in the likely cost of its decision. There are many gifted women attorneys in large firms who would be capable of, and likely enthusiastic about, representing the figure skaters to discharge their firms’ pro bono obligations. Considering in the seven figure legal bills that Plymouth may incur (even assuming a relative low probability) in defending possible lawsuits, the fiscally prudent policy would be to maintain the figure skating program.

democrites on June 16, 2008 at 11:44 pm

On the west side of the state here in Grand Rapids my hockey team has lost our ice time twice to women. The last time it was given to a womans league even though we had the time for 2 years. It’s not like it was a prime time either, it was Friday nights from 11pm-1am.
This title ix bs needs to stop. The last league I played in didn’t start games until 1130pm during the week.
I don’t have a problem with having late ice times due to high school and graha teams but to lose it to figure skating is wrong. Look at participation numbers there are far more hockey players in west michigan than figure skaters.
Just my 2cents.

swede on June 17, 2008 at 8:40 am

figure skaters are given stereo-types such as they are girly, weak, stupid, and have no skill. this however is not true. figure skaters require strength, speed, and skill. Please do not reply in a mean or nasty way, i am only a child.

skater on April 26, 2011 at 7:53 pm

Misogynist much? (Yea, I see you’re a chica — or is that a nom de plume?) Actually, if you were aiming for satire, and this is really about the superiority of figure skating over ice hockey, you just about succeeded.

And before you get all het up, I prefer hockey to figure skating, and I even write about it on no fewer than three websites.

This is the “best” I can find on hockey vs. figure skating — coolio! Look for it on my Hockeygrrls blog! http://hockeygrrls.blogspot.com/

Nadia Archuleta on January 20, 2014 at 1:15 pm

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