September 21, 2011, - 1:24 pm

Jerusalem “Palestinian” Arabs Want to Remain Israelis, Don’t Want Divided Jerusalem

By Debbie Schlussel

Because I’ve noted poll after poll of Israeli Arabs who don’t want to be part of a Palestinian State (they are rightfully frightened by it), this is not really news, but it still bears repeating:  Israeli Arabs don’t want a Palestinian State.  A new poll by the Palestinian Center for Public Opinion says so and so do the Arabs who spoke with USA Today.

A poll by the Palestinian Center for Public Opinion this year indicated that Arab East Jerusalemites are split about who they want controlling the territory where they live.

Asked whether they preferred to become a citizen of a future Palestinian state, “with all the rights and privileges of other citizens of Palestine,” or a citizen of Israel, with the rights and privileges of Israelis, 30% said they would choose Palestinian citizenship; 35% Israeli citizenship; and 35% either declined to answer or said they didn’t know.

You know what that means: at least 70% want to remain Israelis. And it’s probably more like 100%.  The 35% who were afraid to answer thought they’d be halal slaughtered with the knife pointing toward Mecca, if they told the truth. The other 30% probably lied because they, too, know that if they told the truth–that they wanted to remain Israeli, they’d be slaughtered the halal way, too.

East Jerusalem is home to 288,000 Arabs, and some Palestinian leaders, such as Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, say it should be made the capital of an independent Palestinian state. . . .

“People are conflicted,” said Nabil Kukali, director of the Palestinian Center for Public Opinion, which conducted the poll for Pechter Middle East Polls and the Council on Foreign Affairs. The poll was conducted in all 19 East Jerusalem Arab neighborhoods.

Huh? Doesn’t sound to me like they are conflicted at all. They wanna be Israelis. They know what living in a Palestinian state will mean: going from First World to Third, going from civilization to the latest division of Greater Barbaria a/k/a Arabia, going from modernity to the pre-Middle Age, going from a place where Jews invent new ideas in technology, computer chips, and cell phones every day to a place that invents new ways to make bombs and kill innocent people with Jewish innovations in technology, computer chips, and cell phones.

Although the vast majority of Arabs in East Jerusalem have spurned Israeli citizenship, believing it would undermine Palestinian aspirations to have East Jerusalem as their capital [DS: actually, because they’d be halal-slaughtered as collaborators], Israeli ID cards are highly prized, Kukali said.

As ID-card-carrying residents of Jerusalem, Kukali said, East Jerusalemites “receive a lot of services,” including access to health care, social benefits such as disability insurance and pensions, higher wages” . . . .

Legally, East Jerusalemites “enjoy all the rights of Israeli citizens except to vote for the parliament. It’s pretty comfortable having an Israeli ID or citizenship,” journalist Khalid Abu Toameh said. . . .

“If Jerusalem is open to Palestinians, a Hamas activist from Nablus,” in the West Bank, “could come to East Jerusalem and go to Tel Aviv,” said Yitzhak Reiter, a professor at the Hebrew University and the Jerusalem Institute for Jewish Studies. . . .

In a column in the Hebrew newspaper Ha’aretz, the writer and humorist Sayed Kashua, an Arab from northern Israel who now lives in Jerusalem, recounts how his wife hired a rabbi to perform their son’s circumcision.

Justifying the move, Kashua’s wife explains, “A rabbi has more experience than anyone else. If we have to live in Jewish state, then why not take advantage of what it offers?”

Hassam, an East Jerusalem father of four who asked that his last name not be published, fearing harassment, does indeed utilize many of the benefits Israel provides.

“I have two disabled children. Would they receive the same level of care in Palestine that they receive in Israel?” Hassam asked outside his comfortable home near the Hebrew University.

Israel, Hassam said, “shouldn’t allow Jerusalem to be divided.”

Isham Fteih, the bellman, says he works alongside Jews every day and considers many his friends. He doesn’t want to be cut off from Israel under any circumstances.

“My work is here. My life is here. It would be difficult,” Fteih said.

By the way, Isham Fteih, who relies on Israel for his work and says his life is there, is the only Palestinian on record in the article who actually supports a Palestinian state. But, clearly, he wants it both ways. Without a Palestinian State, he continues to live just fine. Without Israel, he will be an unemployed man living in poverty.

If Israel were smart and gutsy (and, lately, it is neither), it would tell all Israeli Arabs they will no longer have jobs, if there is a new Palestinian state. Let HAMAS and Mahmoud Abbas find them jobs and income.

And good luck with that.

The reason there are so many so-called Palestinians in the first place is that Israel gave jobs and labor to Arabs from all over the Middle East, who then brought their families and friends.

Funny how that bites you in the butt, right? Henry Ford did the same here, and that’s why Dearbornistan and the surrounding areas are swarming with anti-American vermin who are Americans on paper only.

18 Responses

I don’t believe they want to be Israelis, I think they just want to remain there until they can take all of Jerusalem.

David Lanham on September 21, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    David, I agree with you. I think some people are mis-reading the poll. No, they don’t want a divided Jerusalem or a Palestinian state,they want ALL of Israel -without the Jews.

    Scott on September 21, 2011 at 5:29 pm

Oddly, though, many of these same Muslims attack Jews if they are able to; those who don’t are happy to hide those who do.

I have a different spin on this poll result (which has been replicated many times). I suggest that it is a great disgrace that the Muslims want to remain in Israel because this shows that the leadership stratum of Israel, rather than protecting Jewish life, helps the Muslims stay put, killing year after year, evading taxes year after year.

If Israel were a decent Jewish state, the Muslims would have fled long ago, rightly fearing for their lives. But then who will clarify this point in Torah? The “rabbis” of Israel are a disgrace.

skzion on September 21, 2011 at 2:01 pm

Hi debbie: it was business as usual in e. Jerusalem i was by sheik Jarra and damsacus and Jaffa gates not one sign of anything palastian- randomly talking to some Arabs there they are scared of Pa state pretty much for all reasons u mentioned above –

Gideon on September 21, 2011 at 2:03 pm

Guess who opened the first modern hospital in the Middle East? Guess who opened the first public high school in the Middle East?
Guess who drained the swamps and set up farms and factories in what is now Israel?

Well, if you answered Jews to all of the above, you’d be right.

Now, who was one of the first people to predict all of this would happen if Jews reestablished their country in what was described by said visitor as a malarial ridden wasteland?

Golda Meir? Herzl? Ben-Gurion? If you named any of these people, well, you would be wrong. The correct answer is MARK TWAIN!

Jonathan E. Grant on September 21, 2011 at 2:25 pm

    Jon, Twain also said that the world had better be prepared for some serious kick-ass Jews if they got together in a state. Alas, he could never believe that Jews would permit their country to become endangered.

    skzion on September 21, 2011 at 7:08 pm

Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Max Brooks, in World War Z, postulates that a Zombie Apocalypse would result in a resolution of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict by opening up Palestinian eyes. Myself, I tend to doubt it, as I can’t tell the difference between the Zombies and Hamas.

Occam's Tool on September 21, 2011 at 3:02 pm

Nah, Max Brooks is a hopeful idealist liberal.

In actuality, the Palestinians would blame the Jews as they got killed, then beg for their help, then accuse them for not helping enough. The actual Hamas and Hezbollah guys would rather kill Jews than Zombies.

luagha on September 21, 2011 at 3:49 pm

Actually, that would be in interesting tactic. If a Palestinian state comes into existence, the Israeli Arabs would be forced to make a choice. If you consider yourself a Palestinian, you would have to depart hence to the West Bank or Gaza where employment is scarce and praying five times a day is all that you have to look forward to.

Worry01 on September 21, 2011 at 3:56 pm

I have pointed out these surveys and the results to others in conversation and also on the web in chat rooms and nobody is willing to believe the polls. They say the polls are manipulated propaganda spread by the Israelis.

I have been to the West Bank and talked to Arabs there, and I know the polls are true. The people I have talked to in Bethlehem absolutely do not want Palestinian governance and fear speaking out because of the threat of violence against them and their families.

fred on September 21, 2011 at 4:50 pm

They hate the Jews but they have no love for each other. They would prefer to live with the Jews since they know they’ll be treated more decently than their own leaders would ever treat them. That is why the Arabs are not that enthusiastic about “Palestine.” Sure, Abu Bluff can summon PA government employees and Fatah hacks to his “popular” rallies in Ramallah but the bottom line is no one else is cheering on “Palestinian” independence. The irony is the world is going to give them something they have no interest in building and that’s been true for the last twenty years the Arabs have had self-rule under Israel.

NormanF on September 21, 2011 at 5:23 pm

35% actually didn’t know where they were.

Joe Russalim on September 21, 2011 at 6:07 pm

Proof of the pudding would be to televise an answer from an Arab Knesset member. I would highly recommend this one, attached to a lie detector.

” Knesset member Haneen Zoubi speaks to Israel media from Gaza flotilla”

Hasn’t the Israeli version of ‘Al Jazeera’ broadcasting from the ME opened it’s doors just recently…..this would be a coup and who wouldn’t pay to be a witness to this…..

Eyes Wide Open on September 21, 2011 at 10:07 pm

I suspect a lot of the Palis who answered that they wanted to be a part of Israel were also doing their taquiyya routines, just like respondents in the Pew poll who said they opposed al Qaeda.

In reality, Muslims don’t want Jerusalem to be divided – they want all of it to be a part of ‘Palestine’. In fact, they want all of Israel itself to be a part of Palestine. Yeah, they may want the services that the Jews provide, but that they did even during Muslim rule, when Jews & Christians were dhimmis.

Israel needs the transfer solution – re-occupy Sinai, expel all Muslims from Israel, Judea, Samaria, Gaza and Sinai, and send them all to the newly liberated Libya or to Syria.

Infidel Pride on September 22, 2011 at 2:13 am

    Interesting post, Infidel Pride. So, to summarize: The Muslims in Eretz Israel do want the benefits of having Jews there, so long as the Jews are dhimmis (and given the pandering that seems a deliberate policy by Israeli governments, quasi-dhimmitude is already in place). The want an “Israel,” but a Sovereign, Jewish Israel. It think this is “kitman” not “taqiyaah,” though. Perhaps the majority of them have no love for the kind of Muslim government they would get if the land were ceded to the Muz, even though they insist that Muz control the land.

    Thus we see that the routine attacks on Jews are part of the quasi-dhimmitude of the Jews in Eretz Israel.

    So, I think we accurately understand what that survey means. Of course, the Israelis spin it as “look how much we’re loved/respected by the Fakestinians.”

    skzion on September 22, 2011 at 5:00 pm

Bibi should say since the Palestinian state won’t have Jews we should send you all the Arabs living in Israel so Jews can live in their houses. Naturally we should tell them they will have to make do without importing water from us and functioning without our electricity. In the short term it’ll be dangerous but within a few months they’ll be begging us to take over. This is all wishful thinking however.

Fred on September 22, 2011 at 2:36 am

One of NBC’s “journalists”, Martin Fletcher, was surveying the independence rallies in the West Bank where one smiling young man said, “I want my country, my *whole country* – but I will settle for this for now.” Fletcher was too obtuse to draw the appropriate conclusion – that any talk of statehood is just the next step in the outlined “stages” strategy for ultimately eliminating Israel and establishing a Palestine “from the river to the sea” – that is, until they set their eyes even farther eastward to absorb Jordan itself.

Also of note were a series of statements by Palestinian leaders recently that even were they to achieve statehood, that would not affect the status of the so-called “refugees”. Those in the camps – in Lebanon, Syria and Jordan – would not be granted Palestinian citizenship. Even those in refugee camps in Gaza and the West Bank would be *denied* such citizenship – they would, thus, remain stateless! For their true home, they insist, is in occupied *Israel*, and thus the push for a bogus “right of return” would survive even statehood.

Raymond in DC on September 22, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    Well, Raymond, when I used to grade papers, I always told my students that I would re-grade a paper if they thought I had given them too low a grade. However, I also said that I would feel free to lower the grade if I thought I had been too generous. That cut down the requests dramatically.

    The Amalekites know that the Israelis will never take advantage of questions about boundaries to INCREASE the amount of land under Israeli control. So, with no down side, it always makes sense to try for more.

    skzion on September 22, 2011 at 5:04 pm

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