December 1, 2011, - 5:33 pm

SoCal Flight School Ran Visa Scam for Egyptian Muslim “Students”

By Debbie Schlussel

It’s good to know that, despite America falling back into a deep sleep after 9/11, authorities are still keeping their eyes on Muslims and flight schools, after ignoring flight school owners’ pleas and tips before the Al-Qaeda attacks.  A Southern California woman ran a flight school scam, illegally helping to bring foreign nationals–many of them Muslims from Egypt–to the U.S. via visa fraud.  Congrats to the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents who busted this case wide open. The thing is that, in many cases like this, the students then disappear somewhere into the American abyss, and ICE never finds them, so don’t believe the claims by ICE and the news reports that there is no national security problem here. There is. Note that the story doesn’t say whether all the students had been located, detained, and put in deportation proceedings. That’s because they probably haven’t found many of them.

Federal agents on Wednesday arrested a Lake Elsinore woman accused of bringing foreign students to train at her flight school on fraudulent visas without government authorization.


Blue Diamond Aviation School = Visa Fraud for Egyptian Muslims

Karena Chuang, 28, was arrested at a friend’s house in Rancho Cucamonga, charged with visa fraud for allegedly enrolling students from Egypt, Sri Lanka and Taiwan at her La Verne-based flight school, Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials said.

“It is a huge vulnerability,” said Claude Arnold, special agent in charge of ICE Homeland Security Investigations in Los Angeles. “If these people aren’t going through the proper screening process that is required by the U.S. government, then we don’t know their intentions, we don’t know their origins.”

Agents raided the flight school, Blue Diamond Aviation, confiscating boxes of material as evidence.

Investigators said Chuang assisted foreign students in applying to government-approved flight schools knowing they would instead enroll in her program, which was not approved.

The department says more than a dozen students gained entry into the U.S. under the scheme.

The alleged scheme began to unravel in June 2010 after U.S. embassy officials in Cairo got conflicting statements from two potential flight students.

“We do know for sure that the students were coached by her not to say that you’re going to be attending Blue Diamond, her flight school, because they would be questioned by officials at the embassy,” Arnold said.

The agency says they have not uncovered any threat to national security as a result of the fraud. Arnold said none of the foreign students who trained at Chuang’s school since 2006 had ties to terrorism.

Uh-huh. Riiight. And they know this because . . . ? Didn’t he just say that we don’t know their intentions or origins? And, by the way, since she got these students to bait-and-switch the U.S. with their flight school applications, the government would have had no way to know where they were or how to track them, as they went to her school, instead of those which they were supposed to attend.

It isn’t the first time flight schools have let foreigners train without proper authorization. In 2010, a flight school in El Cajon, Calif., pleaded guilty to creating fake visa documents for foreign students and a Massachusetts flight school was found to have trained illegal immigrants from Brazil.

If convicted, Chuang could face a maximum sentence of up to 10 years in prison, according to federal prosecutors.

Don’t worry. Someone will quickly come in to fill her shoes in the visa fraud industry. There are plenty more like her operating with impunity right now. Muslims should learn to fly somewhere else. If only we had the gumption to take that stand.  Oh, and get this, apparently some dumbass liberal professor forgot about the flight school lessons obtained by the 9/11 hijackers:

John Mueller, a political science professor at Ohio State University, said he believed training foreigners at unauthorized schools to fly small planes posed a minimal security threat and that maneuvering a larger commercial aircraft would take a tremendous amount of skill that aspiring terrorists don’t likely have. . . .

The training offered at Blue Diamond involved smaller aircraft but a majority of Egyptian students who enrolled there planned to continue onto another flight school to learn how to fly larger planes, said Virginia Kice, an ICE spokeswoman.

Um, Professor Mueller, apparently you forgot the 9/11 Muslim hijackers who took flight lessons on how to steer a plane, but not how to take off or land. Clearly, it didn’t take a tremendous amount of skill. Numbskull. Yup, this idiot is “teaching” your kids.

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9 Responses

We’re idiots for letting people abscond here on visa fraud and take lessons into how to fly planes into buildings. Educating the next generation of Islamic terrorists.

I guess what happened on 9/11 has been long buried and forgotten.

While its good to hear ICE caught this particular scam – the bad news is there are plenty more of those the US government doesn’t know about due to lax enforcement of our immigration laws.

It bears a reminder not all foreigners coming to this country have benign intentions.

NormanF on December 1, 2011 at 6:03 pm

John Mueller, a political science professor at Ohio State University, puts himself forward as an expert on flight training. Does this man even have a pilot’s license. Also, Dr. Mueller seems to be unaware that most commercial passenger airline flights are automated.

Mueller should look at this:

Specifically: “The technology behind the auto-pilot on commercial aircrafts only requires pilots to do approximately three minutes of flying — during take-off and landing…”


“The situation is even worse on commuter flights, where pilots only manually operate the plane for 80 seconds out of a typical two-hour flight.”

I really hate it when networks put on generic experts who really know no more about the subject under discussion than some random stranger dragged out of a Denny’s.

worry01 on December 2, 2011 at 3:10 am

The important thing is we’re not letting American citizens get on a plane with apple juice or shampoo. Priorities, people./sarc.

ant on December 2, 2011 at 10:33 am

I can assure you that the students have not been rounded up and placed in removal proceedings. Like the Tri-Valley University and Northern Virginia University cases, the students are free to remain. ICE, despite this “investigation” is allowing fraudulent students to remain.

Federale on December 2, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    Sadly, I think you’re right and Debbie exaggerated the importance of it. Whatever brave and hard-working ICE agents do, the truth is much of it is for naught, because few removal proceedings are actually instituted and due to lack of space to hold illegals, most of them when release on a promise to appear for their removal hearing, in practice disappear into the great American abyss. Good luck with actually catching them by the time their removal orders can actually be enforced. The ICE has no idea how many foreign visitors here are overt enemies and how many are sent here as sleeper agents. I would guess a lot but no one really knows the true picture.

    NormanF on December 2, 2011 at 3:02 pm

Please do not bother us with the small stuff.
Chief of Jihad Security.
Bumf*ck, Egypt

Ron Wolf on December 2, 2011 at 12:18 pm

ice is now hsi, homeland security investigations. hsi cannot enforce the immigration laws anymore, so of course the ‘students’ have not been deported. another 30-somthing running the los angeles office. wow. morale is still in the toilet in los angeles office and the top bosses don’t care. arnold has given the reins to his dsac who is not liked or respected by any of the agents. hsi. even spell check wants to fix it.

wowee on December 4, 2011 at 2:10 am

i.c.e., hsi, wfc (who f’ing cares) no doubt needed help in busting this case because they could never do it on their own. That’s what happens when you get legacy customs creampuffs indoctrinating drones into the borg which is run by snot-nosed dweebs who graduated from hard-on U and spend more time wiping the political cream off their face instead of doing the job.

IceNoMore on December 6, 2011 at 1:20 pm

Did you ever notice that it is Moslems who leave their birthland seeking a better life in a non-Moslem land. This is what is very puzzling to me. When you know that living in an Islamic country is no good why do they try to pollute the rest of the world with Islam. There will be no where to go to improve your lot.

Gamal R. Scharoubim on May 23, 2012 at 11:03 am

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