January 20, 2012, - 4:41 pm

Wknd Box Office: Haywire, Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close, Red Tails, A Dangerous Method

By Debbie Schlussel

Most of the new movies, this weekend, are ho-hum, but there’s one I enjoyed.

*  “Haywire“:  I really enjoyed this.  It’s a light but stylized thriller, with mild intrigue and lots of fights and action.  If you liked Mixed Martial Arts (MMA), you’ll especially like this, as its star is first-time movie actress, Gina Carano, a real life MMA champion.  Normally, I hate movies in which petite women, like Palestina Jolie beat up multiple men who are much larger than they are.  This is different because Carano is bigger, a little more butch, a lot more muscular, and she’s a lot more believable (except when she beats up the much taller and bigger and very hot Channing Tatum).

Carano is a black-ops secret agent who works for a government contractor.  She’s been set up and marked for death by her bosses during a mission in Ireland, and she can’t figure out why.  The rest of the movie shows her trying to not only escape more bad guys, but discover what’s actually going on and why.  Lots of chases and more.  You won’t fall asleep during this one.

The beginning is kind of confusing, as are some of the flashbacks, but it quickly picks up and everything is explained.  And, at around 1.5 hours, it’s the perfect length for a movie.  When it finished, I wanted more.  My kinda movie and especially good for January, when bad movies are usually released to die a quick death.


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*  “Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close“:  That author Jonathan Safran Foer, on whose book this movie was based, is an unabashed anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian Jew (who attacked Israel in a book edited by anti-Semite Jew Tony Kushner) isn’t the reason I hated this, but it only added to it.  I found this movie incredibly pretentious and annoying, not to mention cruel and a time-waster.  It’s mostly a wild goose chase by a too-smart, too-geniusy, annoying young boy.  And, as with all Hollywood movies, there is absolutely no reference to who perpetrated 9/11.  Apparently that was done in a vacuum by some ghosts who shall not be named.  Yup, can’t sully the Muslims.  That’s the ticket.

A father (Tom Hanks), who is very close with his young genius son, dies in the World Trade Center on 9/11.  His son, who is rude and obnoxious, comes home to verbally abuse the doorman (this is supposed to be funny?).  He discovers answering machine messages from his father calling to say what is happening in the Towers.  The father also calls to say good-bye, after the son has returned home, and the son doesn’t answer the call, just merely listens.  Huh?  Then, the son hides the answering machine messages from his grieving mother (Sandra Bullock) and lies, telling her that the father never called.  This is what passes for entertainment?  Puh-leeze.  It was cold and gratuitously cruel, making no discernible point.

Soon, the son discovers a key in a vase in his father’s closet.  The key is in an envelope marked “Black,” and the son takes this to mean that his deceased father left him something and that someone with that last name holds the answer to what the key opens.  The rest of the movie is mostly a search for that, with the message that all people named, “Black,” regardless of ethnicity or background are all human and to be loved and cherished.  We are the world, we are the children . . . blah, blah, blah.  Oh, and the boy embarks on most of his search with an old man who he’s told rents a room in his grandmother’s apartment, but he has other suspicions about who the man is.  The man does not talk because he’s a survivor of the war.  The boy is incredibly rude and mean to the old man, despite his “Can’t we all just get along” baloney with everyone named “Black,” so I guess he didn’t learn the lesson the movie saccharinly preaches to us.

This movie is a senseless time bandit.  It stole two hours plus of my life I’ll never get back.  Long, slow, and pointless. . . except to buy a self-hating Jewish author another luxe multi-million dollar apartment in New York.


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*  “Red Tails“: George Lucas whined to the media that he couldn’t get this movie made or distributed by Hollywood because it’s about Black people, and Hollywood is racist, so he had to finance it himself.  Um, maybe the real reason has nothing to do with racism–a charge that seems trumped up to sell this movie as some sort of chit on the Black side of the race wars.  Maybe the real reason this movie went nowhere before Lucas financed it, is because it’s just not a great movie.  Not even close. And the script is slack. I like a good World War II movie, regardless of the race of the characters/actors. But this ain’t it.

That’s no knock on the tremendous, heroic accomplishments of the Tuskegee Airmen, a highly-decorated group of segregated Black pilots who fought in World War II and helped America beat the Nazis and the Axis.  They were patriots, for sure. But it is a knock on this race-baiting, unrealistic movie that doesn’t do the Tuskegee Airmen proud.  The script is long-winded and boring, except for the scenes in the air and a scene of a brave airman who helps White soldiers evade the Nazis.  Those are suspenseful.  The rest of the movie seems slapped together by someone with an agenda.

Almost all of the characters in this movie are caricatures.  Most of the White soldiers and airmen in the movie are racists who completely do a 180 immediately upon seeing the in-the-sky skills of the Tuskegee pilots.  Is that realistic?  Probably not. Racists generally don’t change that easily.  Yes, there was racism and segregation then–those are facts of history.  But, while there were one or two decent White commanding officers in the film, the “evil White men” theme made me feel like I was watching the guy’s version of this year’s other raved-about race-baiting movie, “The Help” (read my review).  And most of the Black pilots are saints, soon described by White soldiers as “the finest soldier I’ve ever met” and “the best pilots we’ve ever flown with.”  That the Tuskegee Airmen were the most highly decorated group of pilots in World War II is a fact (which is presented in the movie).  But the hyperbole is ridiculous, as are the disjointed stories that don’t help the movie along.

One pilot is presented as an alcoholic whose drinking nearly costs a pilot his life, but in the air there is no showing that his drinking hurt the other pilot.  Another pilot is shown as a romantic who goes to the house of a woman he sees hanging laundry on the roof of her house near the Tuskegee Airmen’s Italian base.  The woman and her mother immediately welcome this Black man into their home, and they begin dating, despite the fact that neither speaks the other’s language.  How realistic is it that a White Italian mother in the early 1940s would welcome a Black guy to date her daughter?  How realistic is it that a Black officer (Terrence Howard) would tell off his racist commanding officer in Washington and get away with it?  It was just not accurate of the times or the behavior of the times.

Dialogue featured White airmen saying these lines about the Tuskegee Airmen:

We didn’t lose a single plane [with the Tuskegee Airmen providing them cover].  Well that’s a first.


That’s the best G-d damn flying I’ve ever seen.  Drinks are on us.


He’s the best soldier I ever met.

Does this mean that White pilots were subpar and not good soldiers?  Or somewhat substandard?  That’s the implication.  I liked the tagline of the movie, “Courage has no color.”  The filmmakers should have taken that to heart.  Again, the Tuskegee Airmen were heroes as were many other Blacks serving in the U.S. Armed Forces during World War II.  But while they were no less heroic than their White counterparts, they were also no more so.  To make the latter claim would be racist and inaccurate.  They were equally heroic.  Period.  Racism then doesn’t justify reverse racism now.

And the movie was predictable.  I figured out a mile away which guy would be dead by movie’s end and which one would return alive.  And other than that and the scenes in the sky, there just wasn’t much there.

I’d have liked to see what happened after World War Ii when the soldiers returned home and how they were treated.  That might have been more interesting.  Some went home to tremendous racism, others went home and became successes, and others, themselves, like deceased corrupt Detroit Mayor Coleman Young, came home to be racists against Whites and race-baiters themselves.  (Young famously supported the boycott of apartheid South Africa, while secretly diverting public funds to obtain his own personal stash of South African Krugerrands.)   That would have been an interesting flick.  But this movie didn’t tell those stories.  It was just a bore.

One plus:  the movie was ultimately patriotic.  But even the scenes in which the Black pilots killed Nazis–which should have been fulfilling–weren’t all that thrilling.  And that’s the fault of a bad movie and a bad script, not Hollywood “racism.”  If anything, the racist constructs in the film seemed posed to breed more racism . . . not against actual racists in the 1940s but everyone else in 2012.

I’m thankful for the service and feats of the Tuskegee Airmen.  But not so thankful for this movie.


Watch the trailer . . .

*  “A Dangerous Method“:  This weird movie is the story of the mentoring love-hate relationship between two pioneers of psychiatry and psychoanalysis, Carl Jung and Sigmund Freud, focusing mostly on Jung (Michael Fassbender) and his bizarre extramarital relationship with one of his patients (Keira Knightley), who goes on to become a psychiatrist herself.  While it’s supposed to be based on fact, it seemed more obsessed with showing Jung and his paramour engaged in violent sex with him slapping her rear.  Not entertaining.  And it wasn’t enlightening in any way, and was very slow.  Not for me, nor likely for you.  And the point of this movie was . . .?  I have no idea, other than to take your $10 and two hours.


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36 Responses

I was curious on how exactly you where going to rate “Red Tails”, from what I’ve read, I’m assuming you’ve rated the film with a few “Marxes” (which means the movie was bad and sucked) instead of “Ronald Reagans” (which means the movie was good/great)!

Just wanted to know how you’ll rate the film Debbie, because I’ve seen alot of commerical promotions over the last number of days and few weeks about this film, so thanks for the heads up and information DS.

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on January 20, 2012 at 5:13 pm

A double-feature of Fassbender! I kinda only wanna see the first one. I will prolly like it but if I don’t it’s because I usually love non-American films. I read a review earlier today that made me wanna see it so who knows!

Ick. That Tom Hanks movie sounded like Chinese water-torture to me. NO. THANKS. I am not a Tom Hanks fan. I think the only movie of his I ever saw was “Bosom Buddies” and that was a TV Show! I liked that show but I am NOT a Hanks enthusiast. ZZZZZ. His son was pretty ZZZZZ too on “Dexter” too. Plus I hate movies with cute kids. Always have. Only one I love is John Cassavetes awesome “Gloria”. Only that one!

Lucas is a Liberal big-noter! I wanna see a good movie no matter who is in it. Black, white or even foreign. I love foreign movies more than Yank movies so he’s just being a dopey Liberal. I’d love to see a proper film on the Tuskegee Airmen!

Too bad that Sigmund Freud film is silly. I like Fassbender but am not interested in seeing kinky, porny films he does. I don’t get ga-ga over Viggo Mortensen either. Love the music of his ex wife Exene Cervenkova (from “X”) though.

Skunky on January 20, 2012 at 5:33 pm

One more thing on Lucas and his film. He is just so full of sh**. Hollywood’s problem is that they TYPECAST actors or view them as has-beens when talent never really goes away (unless they have a breakdown or are into drink and drugs).

I recently read that Kin Wayans is going to be playing a very dramatic role and they made a HUGE deal out of it. It made me sad because Kim Wayans, to me, has ALWAYS been a huge talent. She loses herself in her characters and I never thought she could just do comedy. I used to say my three favourite comedians/actors were Kim Wayans, Phil Hartman and David Alan Grier (shows how dated this list is) and that they are tragically under-used. I still feel that way (even though one was killed). I will see that Kim Wayans film because her talent has been on ice for YEARS when it should have been out there shining.

My favourite now is John Witherspoon. Reckon he can do drama too. Way too under-used and he cracks me up like no one else can! I am interested in the ACTING and not the typecasting. Hypocritical Hollywood at it again!

Skunky on January 20, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    I do recognize Kim Wayans’ talent (the only member of the family WITH talent!) but just not a fan of the Wayans clan. I recall actress Victoria Jackson (Saturday Night Live among others) stating that she was fired from a Wayans project solely because of her religious beliefs. I wouldn’t put it past them.

    Gerald on January 20, 2012 at 8:40 pm

So glad to hear about Haywire! I’m a big Gina Carano fan! Good to see someone that isn’t a 90 pound model kicking but!!(Columbiana!)

RichieRich on January 20, 2012 at 6:42 pm

Love Gina Carano, was going to see Haywire anyway. Knowing it’s a good movie now, I’ll make sure I go see it. Looking at her at one of the PPV’s at the side of the octagon, not fighting, dressed womanly, my wife agrees with me she’s just smoking. She’s a Fasbender fan. Another mma female to check out is Rowdy Ronda Rowsey. Olympic judo medalist, and hot blond. Her shoulders are a lil broad, but her mom made her work out all the time, that’s what happens.
I knew Red Tails was going to suck. Revisionist history is never pretty or appreciated. I’m surprised Lucas didn’t portray them running the Japanese out of Pearl Harbor, before the Arizona was sunk.

samurai on January 20, 2012 at 7:43 pm

Regarding Red Tails, it is not so much racism as economics. Movies have to make money, or else the studios and everybody else go bankrupt, everyone is out of work and there are no more movies. Simple capitalism.

So, if you were a studio executive being pitched a Tuskegee Airmen project, the first thing that you would ask the producer of such a project would be “what was the last big budget film featuring a mostly black cast to turn a profit”? Once you exclude Eddie Murphy projects, the answer is “there pretty much haven’t been any.” There’s “The Color Purple” (a movie that I hated, hated, hated, but hey, it did make money, and lots of it) and that is about it. (Please note: there is a difference between a movie merely featuring a black lead like Will Smith or Denzel Washington and a movie with a primarily black cast.)

Studios will finance comedies and “dramas” featuring primarily black casts because they are low risk. You can make 10-15 such movies for the $60 million that it took to make Red Tails, and with such small budgets most of them will eventually turn a profit from DVD rentals even if they don’t in theatres.

That’s just the way the business world works: studio execs aren’t just going to throw away money. Until movies with mostly black casts start performing better at the box office, none of them are going to be made. Not racism, just economics. If you were a studio exec, you’d run your business the same way. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be a studio exec for long, because you would either be fired, or your studio would go out of business the way that Carolco did after “Cutthroat Island” and United Artists did after “Heaven’s Gate.”

P.S. The reason why the movie was so anti-white was it was written by Aaron McGruder (Boondocks) and John Ridley (Undercover Brother). That also explains the movie’s lack of quality.

P.P.S. As to your assertion that seeing the airmen in action didn’t change the minds of racists … well that calls into question the definition of “racism.” A “racist” (or bigot of some other sort) is one who holds onto his views despite the facts, and does so because of such negative emotions or character traits as hatred, resentment, malice etc. In the time of the Tuskegee Airmen, many people weren’t so much racist as miseducated. At the time, people were literally taught (by the schools, media, culture etc.) that blacks were incapable of anything beyond menial labor. For lack of a better phrase, “they honestly didn’t know any better.” As amazing as it now sounds, a prevailing attitude back then was that blacks were incapable of being elite athletes. (I am not making this up.) So, the World War II era, with the performance of black soldiers (to speak nothing of Jesse Owens, Joe Louis etc.) caused a great many people to abandon their indoctrination, proving that they were never truly racist or bigoted to begin with, but were merely misinformed.

Gerald on January 20, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    So very interesting Gerald! I agree with you on the Wayans as well.

    Gosh, Will Smith! Only in America! He is not my cuppa tea! That big ego. The Yanks just love him though. When I go to American films I mostly feel my IQ drop way down and I hate the contrived scripts and deliveries. Always have.

    Samuel L. Jackson can almost do no wrong. He’s incredible! Don Cheadle, too. I am sure all good actors would love great scripts, which there seems to be a paucity in disgusting Hollywood. You’re spot on about the economics!

    Ugh! McGruder! He’s such a Liberal puke. No wonder the movie sucks.

    I feel like Reverend Jacques and I wanna say, “This weekend, “Angry Boys”, but I don’t have cable…BUT I just bought the DVD online so NEXT WEEK will be “Angry Boys”! Yee-haw!

    PS…love the “Heaven’s Gate” reference! It’s like the Granddaddy of the neutron box-office bombs (like “Howard The Duck”, “Bonfire Of The Vanities”, “Ishtar” and “Catwoman”)!!

    Skunky on January 20, 2012 at 9:06 pm


      Will Smith was famous solely because he was able to sell the “coolness” of rap culture to the American mainstream. (Smith was actually a very talented rapper.) He made some very good choices on the projects that he took (in contrast to LL Cool J, who got into acting before Smith made horrible ones) and then maintained/enlarged his movie career by choosing and producing his own projects. But had he never been the one to take what mainstream America feared as terrifying – rap music and culture – and made it accessible first with that awful (but very successful) Fresh Prince of Bel-Air sitcom then with movies (and for a time he had hit movie and recording careers going simultaneously) he never would have gotten anywhere in movies.

      Don Cheadle: great actor looking for a good role that never came. He tried his hand at directing but it didn’t work out. Sad to see that he is now relegated to a sleazy cable series now.

      McGruder being a liberal puke is one thing. Aaron Sorkin is a liberal puke also, but a very talented screenwriter. Ditto Robert Altman: annoying liberal but was very talented. MacGruder is a liberal puke AND he lacks talent. MacGruder is an example of how the mainstream media and Hollywood has an affirmative action program, but only for blacks who will spout radical politics. MacGruder was given a nationwide syndication deal straight out of college for Boondocks solely because he was the angry black guy with the hip-hop edge. That MacGruder is actually biracial (black father, white mother), was raised in an affluent mostly white neighborhood, went to mostly white schools, and in truth has NO IDEA regarding the experience of the vast majority of black Americans and as a result expresses his anger via far left politics that is actually a white upperclass liberal agenda that has nothing to do with blacks in reality: a bonus!

      And I had forgotten about “Howard The Duck.” Wow …

      Gerald on January 20, 2012 at 9:31 pm

        I can’t disagree with you Gerald. Very insightful, indeed!

        I actually loved Will Smith’s first single (“Parents Just Don’t Understand” but after that first CD, fuggetaboutit). And funny how Ice Cube started out so agro and now does family movies. I did (to my surprise!!) really like “Boyz In The Hood”. What happened to Singleton after that? Jeez! (And I know Ice-T has a reality show because when I actually was able to watch some cable over the holidays, they had an ad for his show on “On Demand” and he cracked me up because he was on vacation and he said to him a vacation should not entail “screaming kids, spilled drinks and trying to get an overweight bulldog into a life jacket”. So funny!)

        Spot on about Sorkin, Altman and McGruder. I did not know any of that stuff about him but you sort of gave life to how I thought of him in my head. The good thing about pukes like him is that he thinks he is being so “edgy” when actually, he is too dim to see he is being used by Liberals. I like when that happens to dopes like him. It’s like a secret joke that he doesn’t get!

        Thank you Shadow! 😀

        Skunky on January 21, 2012 at 1:16 am

    Excellent post Gerald. Everyone’s prejudiced in one way or another, and in the true sense of the word, it’s not always a bad thing. It’s the pig-headed racist bigots that will refuse to face the facts.

    I always enjoy reading yours, and Skunkys insightful banter on Friday nights, along with Debbie’s reviews of course.

    “Howard the Duck” and “Catwoman” from the same place that gave us “Casablanca”…
    …sad, so sad.

    theShadow on January 21, 2012 at 12:47 am

Debbie –

What I truly appreciate about your reviews is that they come from a worldview that is similar to mine. I further desire that friends and family would achieve higher plains of intellect, but I digress. I am NOT surprised that “Red Tails” is a formula-based profit desiring film. It strikes me amazing that Hollywood will strike early and often to get a liberal message out through the use of silly, propaganda films, but will halt production on worthy ones.

I WILL NOT see ‘Tails, ’cause I work hard for my money and equally hard on protecting my time from being wasted. I pity those that don’t slow down to read reviews and just go to the movies not realizing that their worldviews and intellect belong seated RIGHT next to them!

Paul on January 20, 2012 at 9:17 pm


    In fairness, Red Tails was going to have a liberal message because – as Ms. Schlussel alluded to – segregation and racism were part of the facts of this story, and played a prominent role in it. The problem is that screenwriters Aaron MacGruder and John Ridley distorted the legitimate liberal issues in the story because of their own political agendas (and personal hatred of white mainstream America) and in the process ruined the efforts of a lot of good people who worked on the film (including actual Tuskegee Airmen who served as consultants).

    I would be curious to see how a conservative writer would treat the “Red Tails” subject matter, or anything similar. (No, ignoring American history IS NOT conservative. The conservative thing to do is deal with American history in an honest fashion.) Too bad more conservatives don’t get involved in screenwriting and filmmaking. Right now, conservative moviemaking seems limited to independent evangelical Christian films. (I don’t buy the “liberal Hollywood discriminates against conservatives” angle, because if a tiny Southern Baptist church in rural Georgia was able to produce 3 films that grossed $80 million at the box office – and do so with an almost entirely volunteer cast and crew – then the rest of conservative America doesn’t really have an excuse.) Red Tails is just another example of why more conservatives need to get involved in screenwriting, and movie directing and producing.

    Gerald on January 20, 2012 at 9:45 pm

Thanks I didn t know Gina Carano had made this movie,she is a beautiful woman,a great fighter a beautiful woman,an intriguing and interesting personality and she is soooo beautiful,I am for sure watching this movie. thanks Debb….as the rest of the movies reviewed…..Sandra Bullock can be good,but her acting is somewhat limited.

Juan on January 21, 2012 at 12:33 am

SBPDL’s Kersey has been doing several pieces about the myth of the Tuskegee Airmen. Completely decimates the nonsensical lies about that unit. They were hardly any impact, and only had any black pilots in the air BECAUSE of segregation (the blacks only had to compete against other blacks). Today, WITHOUT segregation, blacks can’t get in the cockpit. Barely 2%, while they comprise a much larger part of the Armed Forces.

As for Haywire; no thanks. I can hardly tolerate ridiculous “one man army” movies when it’s believable men in that role such as the Bond films, Rambo, or maybe Die Hard. When it’s a woman, it’s even less believable.

PitandPen on January 21, 2012 at 4:05 am

Pit and Pen is right. The Tuskegee Airmen story hasn’t been helped by a number of outright false stories their promoters have pushed, such as the “never lost a bomber” line. Research showed that on five known occasions 25 bombers were lost to enemy aircraft. That’s not a condemnation, mind you, every escort group lost bombers, but this line has been repeated so much it makes you question the rest of the story.

Another mark against the film is that this is not a new story. Every schoolkid knows about the Tuskegee Airmen. In fact, we had a movie about them in 1995. How many know of Hubert Zemke? Or the Tin Can sailors, who, while wildly outnumbered, faced down a full fleet of Japanese warships North of the Leyte Gulf? Unfortunately, they’re all horribly unfashionably white, so no one outside of a few specialized cable channels discusses them.

Polichinello on January 21, 2012 at 11:58 am

Red Tails was merely another re-make of a previously done movie.
Tuskegee Airmen was done with Lauwrence Fishburne back in 1995.


Like every other re-hash of a subject that was already done, it has little chance of being better than the original. They just throw a ton of computer blue screen FX in it and hope that the mindless public will pay to see it again.

Maybe if they got Morgan Freeman, it would have been a smash hit, but Lucas went cheap and is playing the race card.

HBO on January 21, 2012 at 1:40 pm

As far as “Extremely Loud…” is concerned – even if the backstory of its author and specifics of how it was presented (i.e. the whitewashing of who caused 9/11) weren’t known, the fact that it had a kid in it was a dead (ahem) giveaway that it was going to be utterly cloying, cliched and manipulative. Needless to say, that is one thing I’ll very much miss (as in, not see anywhere) – yet not miss at all.

ConcernedPatriot on January 21, 2012 at 2:11 pm

On ‘Red Tails’:
If I could, I would look each and every one of those men in the eye, shake his hand, and say from my heart, “Thank You, Sir!”
Debbie, your review of the movie is what I thought it would be being a product of George Lucas.
I figured he would take a phenomenal story like this and diminish it with his imagination.
I’ve always believed the key ingredient to a good movie is a good script.
It’s like the sauce on a pizza pie; if you don’t get that right, nothing else that goes on it will improve it.

Dustbag [Genesis 2:7] on January 21, 2012 at 3:46 pm

I prefer reading reviews by DS because she simply dispenses with the BS to confirm or contradict any preconceived notions on the movies.

My impressions…

“Haywire” – meh.

“Extremely Loud…” – extremely patronizing

“Red Tails” – Whitey Bad; Black Good – I’ll pass on that

“A Dangerous Method” – David Cronenberg (a good thing or a bad thing? you decide)

This weekend: “Skyrim” calls! (Those 60$ sure go the distance!)

The Reverend Jacques on January 21, 2012 at 9:08 pm

Coleman Young was probably a secret Communist. He worked with the Communists in the UAW during the 1940s, and used his UAW experience with the Commies as a springboard to politics. Almost all of the people that supported Henry Wallace in 1948 were either Communists, or in their orbit. A good background for someone aspiring to be a crook!

Little Al on January 21, 2012 at 9:30 pm


Well, folks like SBPDL (which is a white supremacist site for the uninitiated … but hey, so long as they are only anti-black and not anti-Semitic also you are fine with that right … were Ron Paul merely only anti-black instead of anti-black AND anti-Semitic you’d be in his camp, wouldn’t you?) and its adherents just need to go find a country more to your liking and move to it. This is America, and blacks are part of it whether the likes of you want it to be or not. The whole lot of you need to move to Iceland or some place, and this country will be better off without you.


Another one pushing this same canard. Look, there have been DOZENS, MANY DOZENS of movies about white soldiers in World War II. There have been two – TWO – movies about black soldiers: Red Tails and Miracle at Saint Anna’s. And Red Tails is the ONLY mainstream release. Again, folks like you who simply wish that there weren’t any black people in this country need to make this country better by leaving. Folks like you seem to forget that – unlike you people – blacks didn’t ask to come here. Blacks were brought here. So whites who complain about the “problem” of black people conveniently ignore that it was a problem that whites created. Well boo hoo. If you don’t like it, then there are plenty of countries out there with no black people. Go pick one. Go there with your blonde haired blue eyed lassie and multiply and reproduce. Or be a polygamist, get 5 or 6 wives and have 100 kids. America: love it or leave it.


The original Tuskegee Airmen movie was not released in theatres. Also, George Lucas was working on this project before the HBO movie. Also, please do not pretend as if multiple movies haven’t visited and revisited the same subject matter before, especially when it comes to historical events.

It is hilarious: so many folks have no problem with movies like “War Horse” and “The King’s Speech” that aren’t even about America’s history and its people, but with an American World War II movie like “Red Tails”, you complain. Not about the things that Ms. Schlussel did – the bad screenwriting – but the mere existence of the movie itself. This proves that not all anti-Americanism is on the left. But hey, all you America haters … there are plenty of other countries out there. I invite you to go take Ken Hamblin’s advice: pick one and go live there.

Gerald on January 21, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    SBPDL is not a “white supremacist” site, Gerald. You haven’t spent longer than 5 minutes there if you think that.

    If you aren’t going to give that site, and what he says, an honest read- then I’m not exactly interested in giving anything YOU have to say an honest read. I’ll just call you a black-pandering liberal apologist. Sound fair?

    PitandPen on January 22, 2012 at 5:12 am

Does anybody remember what Debbie thought of the movie Young Adult?

Dale on January 22, 2012 at 12:03 am

“Does anybody remember what Debbie thought of the movie Young Adult?”

Yes, Dale. Debbie said that the movie was awful. Four Marxes.

Here’s her review:


JeffE on January 22, 2012 at 1:03 am

The Tuskeegee Airmen were fantastic. And they had to work against real and severe discrimination, to get the right to be killed.

The casualty toll included 66 pilots killed in action or accidents, and 32 fallen into captivity as prisoners of war.[53]

The Tuskegee Airmen were credited by higher commands with the following accomplishments:
15,533 combat sorties, 1578 missions
112 German aircraft destroyed in the air, another 150 on the ground
950 railcars, trucks and other motor vehicles destroyed
One destroyer sunk
A good record of protecting U.S. bombers,[53] losing only 25 on hundreds of missions.[54]

Awards and decorations awarded for valor and performance included:
Three Distinguished Unit Citations 99th Pursuit Squadron: 30 May–11 June 1943 for the capture of Pantelleria, Italy
99th Fighter Squadron: 12–14 May 1944: for successful air strikes against Monte Cassino, Italy
332d Fighter Group: 24 March 1945: for the longest bomber escort mission of World War II

At least one Silver Star
An estimated one hundred and fifty Distinguished Flying Crosses
14 Bronze Stars
744 Air Medals
Eight Purple Hearts[53][55]

So, for the loss of 66 men, they knocked out 262 German aircraft. And a destroyer. And all 66 men who were killed had to fight like hell to get in a position to be killed. No, Debbie, while men like Jesse Jackson are vermin, men like Benjamin O.Davis were pearls.

In addition, yes, the love scene was idiotic, but not for the reason named—it was just handled clumsily—but, yes, Italian locals would welcome American officers in for their security in war-torn Italy and also would welcome Black Americans because in general, Europeans preferred Black Americans to White ones( Black Americans in England, for example, were preferred by the British locals to whites). In addition, I’ve read enough bomber history to know that pilots preferred to have the 332nd escorting them.

My son loved the movie. All except the love scenes.

Occam's Tool on January 22, 2012 at 2:14 am

Debbie, an Italian woman allowing her daughter to date an American airman in WWII is PLENTY realistic. First, there was no segregation in Italy; second, the Americans were the victors – with no colour distinction. There is a famous Neapolitan song about the children who resulted from these liaisons, “Tammurriata Nera”.

Laurette Latini on January 22, 2012 at 3:19 am

Debbie, that you know nothing about Italy – but have no hesitation to spew forth prejudiced nonsense anyway – is no secret. As a matter of fact, liaisons between black soldiers from more than one army (the French also had African units) and Italian women were a regular feature of WWII. There is a famous song (“Tammurriata nera”) about the resulting children. I could say a lot more, but never mind – there is no point in trying to convince you that anyone knows anything you don’t.

LL: I’m not denying that there were such liaisons. I’m just saying that I doubt the mother would welcome the Black guy into the home. Just didn’t happen in 1940s Italy. DS

Laurette Latini on January 22, 2012 at 3:25 am

We will never see eye-to-eye on this. My perspective comes from years of research not emotional whims.

wjm on January 22, 2012 at 6:13 am

Debbie, thanks for the review of “Extremely Loud…” I’ve seen the previews on TV for weeks, and was wondering when it would be in theatres. Watching the previews, I couldn’t quite figure out what the movie was about, except there was a kid, and Sandra Bullock crying and, oh yeah, 9/11. Some of the ads made a big deal out of it NOT being a “9/11 movie,” which I guess is somehow a BAD thing in Hollywood. I thought about going to see it, but now I won’t. It had been my experience that paying attention to your reviews saves me $$$.

DG in GA on January 22, 2012 at 10:07 am

SBPDL is a racialist website. Or to put it other terms, Paul Kersey (the sites owner) is a racial Conservative. That makes him essentially a PaleConservative who stresses race issues. I agree with one of his main themes which is that the Left is motivated by an extreme anti-white animus and that this plays out most clearly in Hollywood.

But where I strongly disagree with Kersey is on his views for why the chaos and the destruction and violence of the Black community exists. I blame the welfare state, the regulatory state, public education and egalitarianism (the Left’s religion) in general. I would also throw in the victimless-crime laws. But Kersey does not blame the welfare state. He thinks that the welfare state is fine as long as it exists in an all white polity (like in the Scandanavian countries). To me, Kersey has accepted pro-socialist arguments.

Also, Kersey blames “libertarianism” for much of the problem we see today with Blacks. I’m a libertarian and I think Kersey’s arguments are insane. We are extremely far from principled libertarianism (ie Classical Liberalism) today. The current US is best described as a quasi-socialist country dominated by Leftism with pockets of social conservatism remaining (Although not that strong in popular culture).

madmax on January 22, 2012 at 12:44 pm

I definitely don’t blame you for skipping Underworld. Talk about the torture of the empty, everlasting franchise….

As for the other movies you reviewed:

Red Tails: A bore, with flat script and flat characters–however, with an amiably conservative subtext (at least considering the subject matter, which was black pride).

Haywire: done with suspense, style and intelligence. This is Bourne Identity for women, without the earlier film’s liberal hatchet job of the CIA (though “private companies that contract out” don’t fare so well). This is a Soderbergh film and like his earlier Contagion thankfully avoids the shrill ideology of his earlier screeds (like Che and Traffic).

Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close: An overly cute, sentimental, pointless waste of time. You’re right: two hours lost forever.

Dangerous Method: This is a Cronenberg film and therefore contains some transgressive sex like most of his others. Other than that, it was a fine, tight adaptation of a dense, intelligent play which contains huge amounts of information about the various theories of Jung, Freud and Jung’s patient Sabina. It was excellent.

I also saw The Artist which finally came to a local theater; and now I understand why you rated it so highly when you did.

So it looks like we had almost identical reactions to the movies we saw this week..

Burke on January 22, 2012 at 4:17 pm

Regarding “Red Tails,” several folks already noted some basic facts about them that goes contrary to the myth (such as never losing a bomber). However, the Red Tails (the 99th and its associated squadrons and group) were not the most decorated air unit of World War II. They were also not the best. When one examines their combat record, articulated typically by examining kills to losses, the Red Tails were about in the middle of the pack of fighter squadrons. This is actually NOT a bad place to be; but it is completely contrary to the myths told ad nauseum about them. What’s really sad is that by exaggerating their achievements, the mythmakers have in reality denigrated their true accomplishments. It’s as if white liberals are essentially saying, “you black folks couldn’t make it on your own without us trumping up your achievements.”

Russ on January 22, 2012 at 4:27 pm

Congratulations to the producers of “Haywire” for casting a woman in a “Kick-butt” action film who actually LOOKS LIKE she can kick butt (MMA Fighter Gina Carano). Usually producers pick well-known rail-thin Hollywood actresses who are 90 pounds soaking wet and try to pass them off as action heroines. There is a “leg scissor” scene in this movie that alone is worth the price of admission….

As for “Red Tails”, it lacked the pure dramatic power and the dialogue-rich interplay of characters found in other predominantly Black-cast military-themed movies such “A Soldier’s Story”. The aerial dogfight scenes were spectacular, but the scenes on the ground seemed wooden, cliché, and bland. With that talented ensemble of African American actors in the film and having a director associated with “The Wire” (one of the best written TV series ever-ever!), I honestly do not understand how the scriptwriters could miss the mark, but they did.

Justin on January 23, 2012 at 1:08 pm

Gerald, I agree with you. My mother told me that she was there when they integrated the schools, and she was terrified, because she had been taught to fear blacks. She hadn’t interacted with any, so she didn’t know better. Once she met them, and interacted with them, she was able to see them as just people, and become good friends with them.

My mother WAS a “racist,” but she’s not hateful, and once she learned the truth, it stuck. She has learned to judge people on their own actions and not on the teachings of others.

I wish more people would learn that lesson. We’d have a lot less hatred and anti-semitism, anti-black, anti (insert race/class/creed here) in the world.

Michelle on January 23, 2012 at 2:42 pm

I think the kid is supposed to have Asperger’s syndrome a form of high-functioning autism that makes people be totally clueless socially,emotionally distant and generally inverted and awkward. So he´s not just a asshole.

NORNiron on January 28, 2012 at 11:23 pm

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