May 30, 2012, - 12:59 pm

Poles Were Complicit in Holocaust: Outrage Over Obama “Gaffe” is Fraudulent, Ignorant

By Debbie Schlussel

Barack Obama has done enough legitimately bad things that we don’t need to manufacture phony outrage over things he does that really aren’t so bad. Such is the case with the feigned shock and fake moralizing over his comments, yesterday, about German Nazi death camps in Poland being a Polish death camp. Here’s a tip for Poland and ignoramuses in the lumpenconservatariat who now engage in revisionist history: Poles murdered millions of Jews, they maintained several death camps, and they wiped out almost all of both sides of my family, as well as those in hundreds of thousands of other Jewish families. This wasn’t just the Nazis. It was tens of thousands of eager Poles and more. Obama made no gaffe here. Poland’s willing executioners took their significant place among Hitler’s willing executioners.


Poland’s Warsaw Ghetto Existed Because of Polish Complicity

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There is a reason why Poland was so easily occupied by the Germans. Yeah, I know–they were “just taking orders.” Just taking orders when they helped round up Jews and helped man gas chambers. As if Nazis from Germany did this alone! Polish police all too happily worked with the SS to round up Jews. Polish police all too easily took their place in helping run and operate the death camps. Facts are stubborn things. But, sadly, not as stubborn as morons and blind partisans.

I had to laugh when I read this:

Poland’s Prime Minister Donald Tusk said Wednesday Obama’s words had hurt all Poles and he expected more from Washington than just “regret”.

Are you kidding? Someone needs to remind Mr. Tusk that his people were the ones doing the hurting and the turning over to the Nazis and the mass murder of at least half of the six million Jews killed in the Holocaust, some of them from my family. You are “hurt” by calling Nazi death camps, “Polish”???? Um, where were they? Who helped operate them and round up and turn in the camps’ Jewish occupants, soon to be turned into ash and fumes?


There is a reason that President Obama, yesterday, awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom posthumously to Jan Karski, the former Polish underground officer who provided early eyewitness accounts of Nazi Germany’s genocide of European Jews. And that’s because Karski was unlike most of his fellow Poles, who hated Jews just as the Nazis did and proudly turned them over to the Nazis and/or participated in the mass murderous Judenrein. Even in the Polish underground, hatred of Jews was legion. My great-uncle was in the Polish underground, until they slit his throat while he was sleeping because, one day, the head of the Polish underground demanded a cleansing of its Jews, too.

My paternal grandmother had eleven brothers and sisters. Only one brother survived the Holocaust after the Poles murdered the rest along with her parents, after Poles seized their farm. (Grandma Marilyn was brought to the U.S. before the Holocaust began.) My maternal grandmother had only one surviving sister and brother, out of ten siblings. All the rest–and her parents–were murdered by the Poles. My maternal grandfather’s entire family was wiped out by the Poles. Grandpa Isaac’s father was mayor of the town and owned a hardware store. He hid in the haystacks of a Pole who owed him money and had bought tools on credit, but my grandfather escaped and was ultimately rounded up to the camps, after he heard the Pole tell neighbors he was going to trade my grandfather to the Nazis for a bottle of whisky.

My family and the millions of Jews wiped out in Poland never identified as Polish because the Poles never treated them that way. They were subject to centuries of pogroms and extreme anti-Semitism by the country in which they lived, before they were ultimately rounded up to the camps and mass-murdered with Polish cooperation. They were treated as subhuman all along the way, never as fellow “Polish.” So it’s beyond hilarious now to hear that the Poles are “hurt” by Obama’s description of a German Nazi death camp as “Polish.” As if there weren’t any Polish ones or as if the Poles had zero part in the Holocaust they all too eagerly participated in. Read the 93 pages of “Bystanders, Blackmailers, and Perpetrators: Polish Complicity During the Holocaust” for just a taste of what the Poles wrought on the Jews.

Yes, it is laughable that the Poles, Rush Limbaugh, self-hating Jew Matt Drudge, and a gazillion Republicans and incredibly obtuse and ignorant members of the lumpenconservatariat–most of them no different from the Obamabots in their lack of intelligence, knowledge, and common sense and decency–are incensed over this “gaffe” that really ain’t a gaffe at all. It’s intellectual dishonesty to insist that these death camps on Polish soil were not at all Polish and merely “German Nazi.” Here’s a list of the Polish ones–did they not exist? Did they exist in Poland only because the Germans did this and the Polish had no part? Only a liar or a moron would make these claims. The White House should have made no apology to Poland. These major death camps existed in Poland for a reason: Polish complicity in the Holocaust and willing cooperation with the Nazis.

* Auschwitz

* Belzec

* Chelmno

* Gross-Rosen

* Majdanek

* Plaszow

* Sobibor

* Stutthof

* Treblinka

Keep these names in your mind when you read this quote:

Poland’s government keenly watches the global media for descriptions of former Nazi German death camps as “Polish” because it says the term — even if used simply as a geographical indicator — can give the impression that Poland bore responsibility for Nazi Germany’s World War II genocide.

Although located in Poland, Auschwitz for example was set up and run entirely by German dictator Adolf Hitler’s occupying forces from 1940 to 1945.

Huh? The Poles were not just forced into this by the Nazis. They were active participants, many of them gleeful and eager to murder Jews. To call these camps Polish is no “gaffe.” Poland DOES bear responsibility for the Nazi genocide of Jews.

It’s just fact. And it’s denial and fraud for Poland and others to argue otherwise.

Yes, there were a few righteous gentile Poles who saved Jews. A very tiny few. The majority were all too happy for the Judenrein, especially in the way it took place.

That was the real Poland during World War II. Anyone who says otherwise is a fraud.

And if you wonder why so many Jews are liberal and won’t vote Republican, BS, like the absurd denial that Nazi Death Camps were Polish, certainly doesn’t help in endearing Jews to the GOP.




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2,053 Responses

LOL, this lady didn’t pay much attention to hisory lessons?

Kie?basa on June 5, 2012 at 5:14 am

    If Debbie Schlussel says that “Poles murdered millions of Jews” then she is totally ignorant liar. Poland was occupied by nazi Germany and nazis built death camps. Lots of Poles were killed by nazi Germans, also for helping Jews. And Hitler and his followers decided for Final Solution, not Poles.

    So who is fraudulent, ignorant liar? Debbie?

    LOL on June 5, 2012 at 5:24 am

    g?upia cipa! S?dz?c po nazwisku, to tatu? albo dziadek stali na wie?yczze w Auschwitz…

    hans Kloss on June 5, 2012 at 6:14 am

    Dear Debbie,

    I think YOU are a very ignorant and fraudulent person.

    Best regards,

    Witold Pilecki

    Witold Pilecki on June 5, 2012 at 6:16 am

Ow
Somebody started to learn from soviet books?
Nice try Ms Stalin

jerry on June 5, 2012 at 5:16 am

chora laska.. We? si? ogarnij i poczytaj troch? o historii ?wiata. Lecz si? zo?zo

ziutek_pl on June 5, 2012 at 5:19 am

One link, my poor tormented by personal grudges friend. It says all:
http://www1.yadvashem.org/yv/en/righteous/statistics.asp

NAZI death camps existed in German territory before WW2, long before first death camp was set up on Polish territory. Look how many Germans helped Jews and how many Poles.
No regards, sorry, such an ignorance (or denial) doesn’t deserve any.

Polish scum on June 5, 2012 at 5:22 am

Back to School Debbie. Try with something easier, maybe drawing?
I’m Pole, I’m Proud of it. I’m Proud of my ancestors who were fighting against holocaust during the Second World War.
So anyone who is telling me that we were killing Jews, collaborating with germans is liar and is retarded.
Thousands of my countryman died in german camps and prisons just because they were helping Jews.

Open a Wikipedia and check polish history. Yep, our country has more than 1000 years. How about America? 300?

PP on June 5, 2012 at 5:30 am

Janusz, you’re right. Germans made a death penalty for Poles which were saving Jews. Why do you all think they did it? Because there were so many Poles trying to save so many Jews!

Sasha on June 5, 2012 at 5:33 am

This is jewish jurnalist. She exectly knows that Jews were killed by Germans and … other Jews. Jes – in many death cams Jews were killed by Jews.

john on June 5, 2012 at 5:36 am

If death camps were polish, then 9/11 was an act of American terrorism. There was two americans planes with americans pilots on board. So, Americans was the 9/11 attackers. Is that a lie? Sure. Same as author’s article.

Simon on June 5, 2012 at 5:42 am

    Very good example!! I think, it should be on the top of all comments and it should make it clear:D

    Adam on June 5, 2012 at 8:11 am

The article is a seditious libel which could not be further from the truth. The question arises: is the author such an ignorant in terms of historical knowledge? or maybe it is a well-known process of distorting history in which the victims become the culprits and vice versa. Obviously few Polish collaborated with Germans as did Jews (see Jüdischer Ordnungsdienst) however these were isolated incidents.

cyprian on June 5, 2012 at 5:43 am

Dear Writer,

I must say, that this article is not only proof of lacks in historical knowledge. This is Holocaust Lie, please read wikipedia – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Righteous_among_the_Nations. Reading some books, will be to hard i think.

Karol on June 5, 2012 at 5:45 am

chyba cie popierdoli?o, Niemcy s? odpowiedzialne za mordowanie ludzi! Wasi ulubieni niemcy, kurwa ma?!

kvvvr on June 5, 2012 at 5:45 am

Dear Madam,
On the territory of the General Government, any help provided to the Jews resulted in unconditional death penalty. Nowhere else did the Germans issue such regulations! I am asking you, since you know everything about the World War II and the Holocaust, why was it that way? I suggest that you deliberate and read carefully what I am about to write. Do you love your children and you husband? So, would you then hide in your cellar a man, hiding of whom posed a threat of death for you and your family? Would you really risk their lives?! It is easy to judge when you sleep in a warm bed, when you are safe. Sitting in a cosy armchair everyone is a hero. Everyone could change the world and teach. I do not intend to explain to you what the war looked like in Europe as you are so rabid in your hatred that any arguments will be insufficient. I do not intend also to explain that in each society there is a great group of thugs and criminals. As a lawyer, however, you should be perfectly aware of this fact. Oh, excuse me, in the USA there were and are no such people, and those thirteen million Native Americans slaughtered them by themselves. I assume that according to you that particular war was legitimate? You use mental shortcuts and generalisations with which I am, unfortunately, familiar. In Poland, USA is judged through the prism of such people as Ted Bundy. I have heard many opinions like “I won’t go to the USA because the crime is extreme there and I am afraid!” Is that true? You are a lawyer, so I ask you for an answer. Prior to writing your text, have you asked yourself some basic questions? Why did the Germans place the death camps on the territories of the former Republic of Poland? I will tell you. Because there was the majority of Jews! Let us continue. And why the majority of Jews were living exactly there? Because they did not want to live anywhere else. Three million two hundred thousand Jews did not find themselves in Poland by mistake. They could have always left. So why didn’t they? Mainly, because their lives there were relatively good. Nobody shot at them, nobody murdered them. Have you ever been to the the Jewish Culture Festival in Krakow? If not, then I invite you – maybe you will change attitude. Almost my whole family from the side of my grandfather was murdered by the Germans! And do you know why do I exist and write these words? Because some Pole saved my grandfather’s life. Almost every Jew who survived the war in Poland must have been saved by a Pole. There was no other way. I suggest you to read the autobiography of Arthur Rubinstein entitled My Young Years and published in the USA in 1973. Maybe this would help you to understand the specific character of the Eastern Europe. Well then, but let us ask more questions! So why didn’t the Jews want to live anywhere else? Because they were persecuted there. I encourage you also to read the history of Poland – you will learn what it really was like. I suggest starting with the Middle Ages as, I remind you cordially, on the ground you cherish your peace today, there lived the Native Americans cherishing their peace! Somebody slaughtered them. I do not insult the flag of the USA! I have one favour. Please, do not put the Polish flag and the swastika together because I may live in a small country but I remind you that the Polish people, together with the whole Europe, were building the culture you were raised in. These are the facts – no matter whether you like it or not. We have been living on this land together with the Jews, Ukrainians, Belarusians and Lithuanians for over one thousand years. There were terrible things going on here but we exist somehow and try to revive, to return to the pre-war normality. And I assure you that by no means killing the Jews was or is the aim of every Polish person. Maybe with a bit of goodwill, you would understand this.

Micha? Zajda on June 5, 2012 at 5:46 am

You sick ?

me on June 5, 2012 at 5:46 am

Idiotki nie powinny pisac blogow.

*emaN on June 5, 2012 at 5:54 am

stupid ignorant

Artur on June 5, 2012 at 5:55 am

She wasn’t listening at history.. or she is a blonde.

bbb on June 5, 2012 at 5:56 am

i’m pretty sure you just commited a crime with this article

pancirno on June 5, 2012 at 5:57 am

Mrs Debbie, maybe you should add that Poles killed also nazis (GREMANS) in death camps? I don’t know if you are so stupid, ignorant or trolling, but please, learn just a little bit of history. Millions of Poles were killed by nazis (GERMANS) during WWII!

Kristafari on June 5, 2012 at 5:57 am

ridiculously stupid article… o.0

Suszi on June 5, 2012 at 5:58 am

Why you always have to lie? Is it written in Talmud?

Arek on June 5, 2012 at 5:58 am

You are totally wrong. You didn’t pay much attention on history lessons. That’s for sure.

Megamen on June 5, 2012 at 5:58 am

go back to school debbie…schlusel-ask your grandfather he probably was a nazi soldier…

jinx on June 5, 2012 at 5:59 am

Shame on you ignorant woman.

Frank on June 5, 2012 at 5:59 am

Is it joke or what?

Diego on June 5, 2012 at 5:59 am

stupid ignorant

superbzyku on June 5, 2012 at 6:00 am

Back to school…

lolek on June 5, 2012 at 6:00 am

We invite You to Auschwitz museum to the lessons of history.

i am on June 5, 2012 at 6:01 am

I’d like to thank you Ms. Schlusshel. I killed hundred thousands of Polish, Jews, Hungarian and Russians and now you try to wipe my blame out. I love you so much! I murdered so many people and you are extremely tolerant. Have you ever read any book?

Adolf Nitler on June 5, 2012 at 6:03 am

    I think she does not know where Europe is, so do not be so brutal. She’s just a total ignorant.

    Rudolf Hess on June 5, 2012 at 6:06 am

stupid article!!!!!!!!!!!

bg23 on June 5, 2012 at 6:03 am

Lady, one evening spent on wikipedia should fill you with valuable knowledge, replacing ignorant shit you spread around yorself.
“DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL:
Conservative political ignorator, radio talk show liar, communist, and waldhorney”

Armando on June 5, 2012 at 6:04 am

Aaaah, i was wondering why people all around the world think that Americans are completly ignorant… Now i know.

Chris on June 5, 2012 at 6:04 am

I am ashame of my fellow americans who show such a lacks of basic groundschool knowledge… You are an ignorant who didn’t even check what was she writing about… I am 14 and I know more then U… It is hopeless, pathetic and disgusting. Please go to Auschwitz Birkenau and educate Yourself…

PS. Hope U were just teasing…

Ashton on June 5, 2012 at 6:04 am

It can’t be real! It’s very sad how stupid and ignorant you are. Typical american blondie.

Marcin Redeemer on June 5, 2012 at 6:04 am

American Education?

grop on June 5, 2012 at 6:04 am

You should NOT write anything to people without preparing proper sources. That what you done is political insult of all Polish nation.

Arnold on June 5, 2012 at 6:05 am

It’s a waste of breath to deal with such a vermin like this plastic surgery doll.

James on June 5, 2012 at 6:05 am

HOW DARE YOU!? you do not have ANY BASIC KNOWLEDGE about WWII!! because people like you the history is forged!!

Annette on June 5, 2012 at 6:05 am

Think !!!! before publish… Learn some history !!! It’s easy to say that things if war never comes to US terytory… Many People was killed by nazi, including polish people and jews people, on the streets, in NAZI death camps… War and tragedy was the same for both. You are simply stupid…

Lukas on June 5, 2012 at 6:05 am

Dear Debbie,

you really shouldn’t talk about Poland, because clearly you know nothing about WW2 topics.

You know it’s a crime to spread such misleading informations… right?

Just quit internet – it’s not for you.

DooM on June 5, 2012 at 6:06 am

she’s kinda hot, doesn’t need to be smart too ;]

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greetings from Polish

Rafa? on June 5, 2012 at 6:07 am

Well, she’s from US. She probably thinks that europe is a country. But well, great job, seriously, the legacy of Joseph Stalin continues! And Debbie your name Schlussel in german means “the key”, so for the sake of human nation, lock yourself in some basement and never come out to replicate, cause your genes cannot be passed down due to amount of stupidity

Rocky on June 5, 2012 at 6:07 am

This “journlaist” should be charged by Yad Vashem for Holocaust denial.

Jack on June 5, 2012 at 6:07 am

NAZI = GERMAN
DEBBIE = LIAR

chelo on June 5, 2012 at 6:08 am

OMG go to school , learn some history.

nmcro on June 5, 2012 at 6:08 am

Lady, are you sane? You should be sentenced to 10 years in history education camp, seriously.

Wally on June 5, 2012 at 6:10 am

Please, stop lying… Death camps were built by Nazi, and Nazi were germany people. Not all, but big part of them. Germany started a WW2, but it is comfortable to say – Nazi, not germany. I know -not all germans were bad, also not all polish people were good, not all were bad, but stop saying that death camps were polish! It is one big lie and contumely!

Tomasz on June 5, 2012 at 6:10 am

Learn more history dear, because only pretty face is kinda embarrassing when you’re a journalist and have no idea what are you talking about. A little bit of knowledge will do more than all those pretty face photos (tuned by Photoshop ;])

J on June 5, 2012 at 6:11 am

G?upia t?pa baba.

Marcin on June 5, 2012 at 6:11 am

Thousands of Polish saved many thousands of Polish Jews murdered by Germans and other Jews (camp police was mostly jewish too).
First camps near Aruschwitz were build to murder native Polish, especially Catholics, the elite of nation! There was plan of extermination of all Polish elite to make us slaves, plan of extermination of all Jews was later.
So WTF are you writing now?
Polish were murdered not only by German Nazis but also by Jewish-Russian Communistic Post-revolutionary Russia (we kicked their asses at 1920 and saved Europe, God damn it!) and this started much earlier, before WWII at 1936 in Bolshevic Russia.

On Polish land occupied by Germany Hitlerists there was death penalty for saving Jews! All family could have been murdered for saving 1 Jew.
But even National Democracy members, who before war were against Jewish supremacy in Polish elites, all saved Jewish!
Because we Polish know how to be humans. Maybe you don’t.

If ignorance would hurt you would have pain of Jezus on cross…

Duch Jana Karskiego on June 5, 2012 at 6:12 am

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