April 3, 2009, - 6:34 pm

Hmmm . . . At Immigration Center Site of Rampage, Aliens Taking Citizenship Test Didn’t Speak English

By Debbie Schlussel
So, the identity of the shooter at the American Civic Association has been learned: Jiverly Voong, 42, had just lost his job at IBM.
But there’s an interesting piece of info that’s come out in the reporting and it may point to immigration fraud at the center.
One point of immigration law that isn’t enforced nearly enough is that those seeking citizenship must take the citizenship test in English. There are few exceptions, like if the applicant mentally incompetent. But there’s a reason the citizenship test prep book below is in English . . . AND Spanish. Too many people who don’t speak English game the system and get citizenship.
But it looks like most of those who were at the American Civic Association at the time of the rampage didn’t speak English. And yet, most were there to take the citizenship test.


Hmmm . . .

The gunman entered a room just off the reception area and continued firing, the chief said. He fired on a citizenship class, Rep. Hinchey said.
People were there in the process of being tested for their citizenship,” Hinchey said in a telephone interview. “It was in the middle of a test. He just went in and opened fire.”
Twenty-six people hid in a boiler room and 37 people were safely removed from the building, Zikuski said. Four people are in critical condition.
Most of the people brought out of the building couldn’t speak English, the chief said.

Yes, some of the people were there in an English class, but how many who couldn’t speak English were among those taking the citizenship test?
Probably more than you’d think.

17 Responses

For your information, in many government immigration centers around America, you DO NOT have to speak, read or write English nor do you need to pass a test of any sort, shape or form to be handed the certificate of citizenship.
So why teach them English in a non-governmental one?
Again and again, only the American people will destroy America, not anybody else and we are good at it.

Independent Conservative on April 3, 2009 at 6:59 pm

As a sidebar, let me say that I despise Congressman Maurice Hinchey, who is the darling of the extreme, antisemitic left in New York’s Hudson Valley region. He has made numerous statements over the years which I construe as anti-Israel, and has forged alliances with Marxist “peace” organizations such as Code Pink and MoveOn.org. Sadly (although not surprisingly), he has many foolish, self-hating left wing Jews among his supporters.

commonsense on April 3, 2009 at 9:03 pm

Not to toss reality into the mix but … there are actually 3 exceptions to the rule about being able to speak english to become a citizen…
From the US Citizenship and Immigration Service website…(sorry the link is munged … I have been outsmarted by typepad tonight) http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=12e596981298d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCRD
Applicants for naturalization must be able to read, write, speak, and understand words in ordinary usage in the English language. Applicants exempt from this requirement are those who on the date of filing:
have been residing in the United States subsequent to a lawful admission for permanent residence for periods totaling 15 years or more and are over 55 years of age;
have been residing in the United States subsequent to a lawful admission for permanent residence for periods totaling 20 years or more and are over 50 years of age; or
have a medically determinable physical or mental impairment, where the impairment affects the applicant’s ability to learn English.
In other words, that nice little old lady that lives next door to me but can barely speak anything but German even though she has been here for 40 years … is allowed to become a citizen if she can otherwise meet the requirements. I don’t think that is a bad thing.

Rob Wolfe on April 3, 2009 at 9:05 pm

What? Thirteen people got killed. You’re worried whether or not they spoke English?
They don’t now, that’s for sure.
Wonder what language they’ll hold the funerals in?

sjohn on April 3, 2009 at 9:38 pm

So your argument is that because they didn’t speak English they didn’t deserve to be here, and therefore they deserved to die?
Ms. Schlussel, you are human garbage. Have you no shame at all?

Tommmcatt on April 3, 2009 at 10:13 pm

WHEN will America wake up to the fact that there is a ALL CASH BILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS that allows Illegal Aliens to take our jobs, steal our identity, steal our SS#’s, rob our children of a good public education, take in-state College tuition discounts AND get admitted into College thereby reducing the number of American Citizens who get in, buy houses/cars, and overwhelm our Hospitals.
Another RUSE is that these ILLEGALS “pay taxes” and “add jobs”. This LIE is constantly spewed by LaRaza and every other Liberal Slanderous Organizations. They are being supported, in every way, so that (a) they add to the US Census thereby giving Democrats more “representation” (b) they can/will get Citizenship and Obama will allow them and (c) they can bring their “family members” over here, add another 20 million, thereby ensuring that Democrats CONTROL every election before the first ballot is cast.
This BS about “going to the back of the line” is played out and it is (yet another) LIE.
American Citizens need to WAKE UP and act now! This is an INVASION supported by Democrats/Liberals and they are not…playing. This is FOR REAL.
They have snuckered the African Community to support them, since they are “non-white”, but these ILLEGALS are taking away jobs/schools/eduction/benefits from the African Community each and everyday. Yet, they don’t or won’t acknowledge these facts.
I am SICK and TIRED of all these ILLEGALS killing American Citizens and overflowing our prisons 24/7. These are NOT “peaceful people” and they don’t want to “assimilate” (another lie) they want to take and take and take again. This is a ONE WAY STREET and they LAUGH at Americans for letting them get away with it.
Here in the Washington DC area these Illegals, after less than 5 years here, own MILLION DOLLAR HOMES and drive Porsches and have “wads of hundred dollar bills”. They MANIPULATE the Construction bidding process because they don’t pay Workers Compensation. They don’t have insurance and they pay their ILLEGAL ALIEN WORKERS in cash – NO TAXES. Thus they are able to “undercut” every American Citizens’ bids. In the Roofing Business in DC they are “sub-contractors” and they are making HUGE SUMS OF MONEY…all cash.
The American Dream is readily available to anyone/everyone except those who are American Citizens and/or play by the rules.
It is a TRAGEDY.
Jeff Schrembs, American Citizen

Nostradamus on April 3, 2009 at 11:28 pm

Little Debbie SnackCake, you can do way better in your quest to outdo Ann Coulter in the race to the bottom. Come on, you can’t just go for the obvious “language” thing; you must learn where the true filth is in a story. You gotta infuse your fluff with jingoistic hyperbole, nationalistic fear mongering, claims of terrorists in our midst and the always popular “liberals are eating kittens and baby fur seals with heapin’ helpin’s of nun’s liver
(with a nice Chianti)”. Don’t worry, you can learn the fine art of racism, discrimination and blind nationalism. Just remember, there really is no limit to your career if you hone your hatred and shrill fear mongering. So, we’ll keep an eye on you to see how you do. Don’t let us down. The world needs another lamprey to suck the life out of poor people. Now get out there and start hating!!

BLZ Bubb on April 3, 2009 at 11:32 pm

Thanks you Debbie for staying on top of the facts. The English language proficiency of the many murdered individuals is indeed what we should all be focusing on right now. With coverage like this, you are going to bring down our broken immigration system!

RJMathews on April 4, 2009 at 2:13 am

This is truly a magnificent symphony of crackpottery, and I encourage you to keep it up. Give us more! Encore, encore! You’re building your brand and becoming more successful at the expense of rational conservatism, and as a Democrat, I applaud that! The more people like you there are who draw attention and influence the right wing to become ever more married to the fringe, the better rational Democrats do. Peace and God bless. ^_^

gamesforinsects on April 4, 2009 at 3:06 am

Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Schlussel!
If you don’t speak English, you’re an untermensch and deserve to die.
None of the victims can speak English, because they’re all DEAD. Ever seen a dead person speak English? We should make sure they don’t get buried in sacred American soil. Dump them in the sea.

jasperjava on April 4, 2009 at 7:12 pm

Here come the liberals again getting more mad at Debbie than the scumbag loser who can’t deal with life and lashes out at innocent victims. Debbie brings up an issue about whether citizenship test are being conducted in English or not and you guys equate her with the killer. Get real. Again liberals get on their damn high horse so they feeeeeeeel noble. It is all about how you feeeeeel. It is sad that any innocent victims get killed. No one deserved this rampage. One way or the other Debbie commenting about whether citizenship is being conducted in English or not isn’t going to bring them back. Get over yourselves.
And for the record I disagree with Debbie on the subject. I think English was being taught. The rest of the article states people were being taught in English. However I agree with Debbie all test should be conducted in English unless there are mitigating circumstances. Yes people game the situation. Personally I helped two legal residents become citizens after helping them learn English. There was no option at the time of doing test in Spanish. All 100 questions were in English.

californiascreaming on April 5, 2009 at 8:36 am

Debbie, Binghamton has a sizable Muslim population and is only 45 miles away from Islamberg, a purported training ground for terrorists.

Suziq on April 5, 2009 at 12:31 pm

I wondered about that myself because I read something regarding the incident and instructors translating questions from English. Not sure if it was the test but it struck me as odd. Furthermore, I wonder how much of their budget I am paying for. Meanwhile, my child is on a waiting list for disability services. Thanks “typical” lovin’ liberals.

FeFe on April 5, 2009 at 1:39 pm

So your argument is that because they didn’t speak English they didn’t deserve to be here, and therefore they deserved to die? Tommmcatt
Don’t worry, you can learn the fine art of racism, discrimination and blind nationalism. Just remember, there really is no limit to your career if you hone your hatred and shrill fear mongering BLZ Bubb (fitting screen name, Are you advertising yourself as SATAN)
If you don’t speak English, you’re an untermensch and deserve to die. jasperjava
Wow, I had to go back and read this article over again, because for the life of me, I couldn’t find anywhere within Debbie’s article that stated or infered to any of the above garbage spued forth from the libtard circus gallery. Once again the libtards didn’t even bother reading the article, they just saw Debbie’s name and vile waste erupted out their collective asses.
What’s most interesting is the folks who spued such diatribe are not members of Debbie’s community. I have never seen them on here before, but when you’re on the I hate Jew’s fanmail socail network, such things are to be expected.
Thanks for the headsup Debbie, as usual you are the voice of reason in the surging tide of obama-fanatism and all that goes with it.

wolf2012 on April 5, 2009 at 3:50 pm

Murdered English teacher of Chabad, community was a mother of 10, grandmother of 17. Chabad, any connection to Mumbai terror?
Jewish Community Grapples With Binghamton Tragedy
Members of Binghamton, N.Y.’s tight-knit Jewish community were in shock over the weekend after the death of Roberta “Bobbie” King, a 72-year-old substitute teacher who was one of 13 killed when a lone gunman opened fire on the downtown American Civic Association.
(Source: Chabad.org)

gr8muscles on April 6, 2009 at 1:27 pm

Yes, apparently this had nothing to due with muslim terrorists. Must be very disapointing to you deb.

Bob on April 7, 2009 at 4:46 pm

There’s an update!

“Now that the blood has been soaked up and the chunks of brains and bits of flesh have been flicked off, it’s been determined it was in English after all. My bad!” Lil’ Debbie

Harry R. Sohl on February 28, 2010 at 12:51 am

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