June 30, 2015, - 7:39 pm

PUH-LEEZE: Check Out What Ben & Jerry’s is Doing to Gloat Over Gay Marriage

By Debbie Schlussel


I’ve always believed that smart brands stay out of politics. Sadly, many brands believe it’s their duty to shove left-wing BS in our faces, and that especially includes Ben & Jerry’s Ice Cream. On this site over the years, I’ve written about why Ben & Jerry’s should be ice creama non grata for any freedom-loving American, and that’s for reasons other than that it’s filled with unhealthy fat and sugar. It’s not just that B&J paid for the PR firm that represented Jihad Cindy #2 (anti-American, anti-war, anti-Israel, anti-Semitic Cindy Sheehan; Jihad Cindy #1 is Cynthia McKinney). It’s also that B & J and its namesake founders are big donors to anti-American, pan-Islamic foundations like the Tides Foundation. And, now, Ben & Jerry’s is even more in your face with its new pro-gay marriage celebratory ice cream.


“I Dough, I Dough” isn’t exactly new, as the flavor was called “Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough.” But the newly-named flavor also comes with new packaging, including the agenda-hijacked rainbow symbol and two male cows getting married. Hmmm . . . I wonder how gay men like it that liberals are comparing them to animals–to cattle?! But, hey, when liberals do these things and make these comparisons, they get away with it. (Or maybe B&J’s next move is to fight for the rights of animals to get married. Don’t put it past ’em.)

It’s not that I don’t accept the Supreme Court’s decision. I recognize that it’s the supreme law of the land and gay marriage is now a done deal, even though I believe marriage is exclusively between a man and a woman. I think the real Supreme Court fight now is whether or not, for example, a church (which receives federal tax-exempt status by virtue of being a recognized religious institution) and/or its clerics will be forced to marry gays.

It’s just that I don’t need companies and their products preaching to me their left-wing politics. I don’t want to hear it from them. Didn’t their mothers teach them not to discuss religion or politics? It’s the easiest way to shrink a customer base.

Ben & Jerry’s, owned by Unilever, didn’t have to get involved in the gay marriage debate. And, frankly, since the debate is now basically over, it’s kind of cowardly of the brand to now jump on the bandwagon for the sole purpose of crass PC commercialism, anyway. Yes, it’s true that the brand did pimp gay marriage back in 2009, but has been quiet for a while on this issue. Brands shouldn’t be involved at all in politics (other than refusing to support terrorists and so on). But they seem to be more and more. Last week, Tylenol begun running the Susan-Saranwrap-narrated “family isn’t who you love” lecture, below. And, pretty soon, we’ll be seeing more and more of these pronouncements. Don’t count Bruce Jender a/k/a “Caitlyn” becoming the latest Cover Girl cosmetics spokesmodel.

You wanna be a transsexual or a gay in gay marriage now that it’s legal? That’s your business. Do what you want. But why must I have it shoved in my face?

By the way, as I’ve said zillions of times on this site over the years, it’s no big deal or cause for celebration that gays can be open and enjoy many rights in this country, when the gay community is cricket-chirping silent about gays being dropped off skyscrapers or beheaded throughout the Muslim world.

When Ben & Jerry’s has cause to celebrate gay marriage–no, just gay existence to live until the end of the day–in the Muslim world, then, maybe some celebratory flavor of gay ice cream is in order. (It might be called “Yasser’s Halal Chubby Hubby Drives on Rocky Road and Doesn’t Blow Up.”)

But until then, don’t shove your ice cream emblazoned with two male cows getting married under a rainbow in my face and down my throat.



BTW, from a past entry, here are some of the gay marriage ice cream flavors I thought up for Ben & Jerry’s:

* Lickable Li-Berry-ace;

* Yasser Arafat IED Rocky Road (yep, as I’ve noted before on this site, Yasser was a closeted gay, who apparently died of AIDS);

* RuPaul Black Raspberry;

* George Michael Elton John Swirl Sorbet;

* Butter Pink-On (no more Butter Pecan);

* WNBA No-Dunk Creme Brulee; and

* Condom-Covered Banana Split.


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58 Responses

The goal of the creeping (and now skipping faster and faster) totalitarians, of course, is to degrade religion so it plays no bigger role than it did during the heyday of Stalinism.

The way things are going, I see no reason why they will not be successful. No politicians are providing leadership; those who criticize the SCOTUS decision are not providing any workable program to fight for religious rights.

The religious people who are trying to challenge these infringements on their rights would do well to frame their struggle in the broadest terms possible, as a civil liberties issue and try to obtain the widest support possible, even, hopefully from those who do not agree with the religious principles, themselves.

The chaos in our society seems to be expanding on an exponential basis. It reminds me more and more of the later days of the Weimar Republic. The veneer of civilization is becoming more and more brittle, and while of course I want to preserve and extend the declining amount of civilization that we still have, I am becoming more and more pessimistic.

While, like Debbie, I am opposed to gay marriage, I am more concerned about the mob psychology that seems to be more and more endemic here in the United States.

While American society has never been free of demagogues, I don’t think there is another time period that has been plagued by the amount of influence that demagoguery is able to command today. Emotion, more and more, is ripping rational thinking apart in virtually all sectors of America. That is the real problem; the institutionalization of gay marriage is only one more symptom of a rapidly accelerating irrationalism.

Little Al on June 30, 2015 at 8:13 pm

I’ve done my basic research on the “rainbow flag”; the irony is that it represents humanity of all sexual-persuasions, not just the LGBT community.

This can be creativity what Ben and Jerry is doing, but in contrast, I’m not sure what Ben and Jerry’s did this, but irrespective of this, I’ll still do my business with them. In actuality, I support the right of the LGBT community to marry each other out of social-bonding love (and also the right to adopt kids for their welfare), were it’s compatible to “natural law” 101; but the constitution is antithetical to any degree of marriage.

Sean R. on June 30, 2015 at 8:25 pm

    The “rainbow flag” has also become as much a symbol of creeping totalitarianism, tyranny, oppression, and loss of freedoms for the larger society as the Nazi swastika, the Communist hammer and sickle, the Islamic star and crescent, and now the ISIS flag.

    But the Supreme Court decision also effectively invalidated traditional Judeo-Christian values and essentially replaced them with Greenwich Village/San Francisco/Fire Island “values” of the type that, in ages past, helped bring down entire civilizations, and serve as a handmaiden to tyranny and a creeping primitive barbarism that is fast replacing the tenets of civilized society.

    ConcernedPatriot on July 1, 2015 at 2:37 am

And with the Government becoming more and more powerful, and with the liberals more and more able to initiate mob action virtually at will, corporations, if for no reason other than self-preservation will go along with, and accommodate the mob.

Look at the attacks on the Confederate Flag, the glorification of gay marriage, the institutionalization of diversity, something that has absolutely no rational basis, and the constant appeasement of politicians, not new, but steadily increasing.

I have tried to imagine what news broadcasts sounded in the Soviet Union (sic) and Nazi Germany, and what we are hearing today does not really sound that different.

Little Al on June 30, 2015 at 8:27 pm

And, more and more, they have their uniforms. The gays with their rainbows, the union thugs such as the SEIU with their purple garments, the Nation of Islam, and of course, the Muslims as a whole. While I understand that their garments, especially those of Muslim women, have a religious basis, they seem, more and more, to be becoming a uniform of defiance as well.

Little Al on June 30, 2015 at 8:38 pm

Company owned by Unilever. B@J are just figureheads.

F: That is noted in the post – that Unilever owns the company. RIF – Reading Is Fundamental. However, you are wrong that they are “just figureheads.” They personally still have a say and tons of money, some of which went to the Tides Foundation and to Jihad Cindy #2’s PR campaign. DS

Fleiter on June 30, 2015 at 9:34 pm

…but when all is said and done we will all be wearing grey like the chi-com’s
No, not gray like the color but grey like the colorless; no identity, no individualism.

theShadow on June 30, 2015 at 9:44 pm

So we now have tuna & sperm flavored ice cream?

#1 Vato on June 30, 2015 at 10:17 pm

How about a some new flavors for B&J: Packed Fudge or Flamboyant Fruitiosity?

King David on June 30, 2015 at 10:42 pm

Bush didn’t give you chocolate fudge pop culture and politics all mixed up together.
Hollywood does that but Obama made it presidential.
That’s called a Banana Republic Sunday.

Never underestimate your enemy especially when he makes it obvious.
“Not G-d bless america G-d damn America”

And there’s worse but you’d have to have banana republic ears to hear it.

Mochizuki Koga on June 30, 2015 at 11:10 pm

People go to church on Sundays.

Mochizuki Koga on June 30, 2015 at 11:11 pm

There seems to be a complete lack of understanding of how the military-industrial-judicial complex (“system”) works in America today, but I will be happy to s’plain in to you. Ben & Jerry’s is not promoting gay marriage based on some leftist agenda. In fact, it’s not a left-right thing at all, except on the illusory veneer that so many focus on. Ben & Jerry’s is just one of the many cogs in the system promoting gay marriages.

I have s’plained before that the SCOTUS does not consist of independent judges making independent decisions. That is an illusion. The reality is that NO judge gets to be on the SCOTUS unless they have proven themselves to be loyal to the system. And what is that system? It is big government and big business. That is why virtually every decision made by the SCOTUS BENEFITS big business and/or big government.

The gay marriage SCOTUS decision is no different. The very reason that the SCOTUS decided as it did was precisely because big business wanted it. That’s the plain and simple fact. What big business wants, big business gets–one way or another.

(And big government is usually working in the service of big business, which is why they are more often than not on the same page. For example, the big insurance companies are behind SCOTUSCARE, and are its prime beneficiaries.)

All you have to know that everything that I’ve said is the real truth of the matter is to look at the names of specific big business behind the SCOTUS gay marriage decision in their Amicus Brief. It reads like a literal who’s who in big business. From American International, Amazon, American Express, Apple, and ATT to name a few of the “A”s in big business, to bankers UBS at the other end of the alphabet of big business (including, of course, Ben & Jerry’s in the “B”s), big business has said what they wanted. And the SCOTUS has delivered what they wanted. Because I am always prepared to support everything that I say, here’s a link where you can check out the big business sponsors of the gay marriage SCOTUS ruling. http://www.scribd.com/doc/257794356/Employer-Amicus-Brief-Obergefell-v-Hodges

Finally, since so many here seem to be forgetting (if they ever knew) who is really running the show, I suggest, as always, the powerful speech given by late, great actor Ned Beatty from Network, written by one of the greatest screenwriters of all time, Paddy Chayefsky https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI5hrcwU7Dk

Ralph Adamo on June 30, 2015 at 11:14 pm

    “There seems to be a complete lack of understanding of how the military-industrial-judicial complex (“system”) works in America today, but I will be happy to s’plain in to you. Ben & Jerry’s is not promoting gay marriage based on some leftist agenda. In fact, it’s not a left-right thing at all, except on the illusory veneer that so many focus on. Ben & Jerry’s is just one of the many cogs in the system promoting gay marriages.

    I have s’plained before that the SCOTUS does not consist of independent judges making independent decisions. That is an illusion. The reality is that NO judge gets to be on the SCOTUS unless they have proven themselves to be loyal to the system. And what is that system? It is big government and big business. That is why virtually every decision made by the SCOTUS BENEFITS big business and/or big government.”

    Thanks for s’plaining, Ralph. 🙂 The most obvious omission in your s’planation is the crucial issue of timing: if we grant for the nonce that SCOTUS is motivated as you suggest, why exactly does big business favor gay marriage NOW (or in the recent past)?

    skzion on July 2, 2015 at 5:42 pm

      SKZ, you ask WHY big business is NOW calling for national recognition of gay marriages (assuming, arguendo, my thesis that the SCOTUS yielded to big business on the gay marriage ruling is correct)? Why? That’s always the most challenging and difficult of questions that can be asked on a subject, and this is no different.

      I think that the best way to answer a “why” question of this nature is to answer another question, the age old “cui bono?” question. That will give us a better answer than the official ones that big business will give you. Big business, for example, has said that the reason they support gay marriages is because it’s good for their bottom lines. Articles about this featuring this point of view have been published in many of the popular business journals, such are Fortune, Forbes, and the Harvard Business Review. But a closer look at that response shows that there are a few holes in it. For example, wouldn’t such groups as evangelical Christians, Orthodox Jews, Mormons, and many Roman Catholics be alienated by the big business promotion of gay marriages? And don’t those groups, counted as a whole, represent a considerably larger percentage of the business market than gays/lesbians? I would say yes to those last two questions.

      Therefore, we have to look a little deeper for the real motivation than given in the official big business rationale. It’s really more about power than about money (though the two, of course, are often closely connected.)

      First of all, it’s important to note that “big” business in particular and not just any business, favors the SCOTUS ruling. The same is true of SCOTUSCare, as big business has the infrastructure to deal with the maze, length, and sheer mass of government regulations, whereas is small business is penalized or even forced out of the picture altogether. This actually works against most Americans as a whole because smaller business are the real engine of the economy, not big business.

      Second, big business gets to dictate what is culturally acceptable and what is not–another power dimension. You either go along with the program or you are cast out and made to pay the price. The impact of the decision is to help marginalize the beliefs and principles of evangelical Christians, Orthodox Jews, Mormons, any traditional Roman Catholics, as they too are being forced to go along with the big business agendas.

      So, in a nutshell, the reason big business supports such game changers as the gay marriage ruling (and SCOTUSCare, and other such rulings) is that it makes big business even bigger, and helps to squeeze out small business. It’s really about power and control of society at the upper echelons of business.

      And that’s my s’planation.

      (BTW, if you’re wondering where this s’plain business comes from, it’s my in-humor reference to a Desi Arnesism. I am a big comedy fan and especially love the old stuff, like the comedy of Desi Arnez and Lucille Ball, stuff I still think is funny and relevant today. If you’re not familiar with what I’m talking about, here’s a clip that will s’plain what I mean:

      Ralph Adamo on July 2, 2015 at 9:22 pm

      We never know when Ralph is being sarcastic, but assuming that these are his real views, they are kind of silly.

      The military had influence in the past, but certainly not today. Business? In spite of Apple’s CEO, mostly reactive. They react to things in a way to foster, to the extent possible, the greatest amount of stability.

      The point you made, skzion, some time ago, about Congress having the ability to limit the scope of SCOTUS is a compelling one. Any politician who says he wants to limit SCOTUS, but who fails to make the point about Congress’s power in this regard, is not serious. I’m afraid this includes Sen. Cruz, unfortunately.

      Little Al on July 5, 2015 at 6:50 pm

        Actually, Little Al, I expanded on the point you mention on this very thread, but this response was somehow swallowed. I wholeheartedly agree with your application to Cruz.

        skzion on July 6, 2015 at 12:31 am

          skzion, I have had comments go to SPAM sometimes also. It happens especially when comments are somewhat complex. I generally just send Debbie an email notifying her of this, and she sees that the comments are posted. It might take more time during a Holiday weekend, but when I do it, the comment always gets posted.

          Little Al on July 6, 2015 at 4:00 am

          Yes, Little Al, agreed. I’m hoping that the new web site requires less hands-on fixing.

          skzion on July 7, 2015 at 2:25 pm

I’m a healthy-eating regimen and avoiding ice cream. Besides, I’d never touch B&J. Any company that caters to Deadheads (eg flavor of Cherry Garcia) has lost me.
Also, Yasir Ourfart’s flav would be bettersuited to be ‘fudgywudgy’, based on his, ummm…you -know -what.

Not Ovenready on July 1, 2015 at 1:00 am

Debbie Schlussel is the biggest pile of hate filled rancid shit on the planet.

henry on July 1, 2015 at 2:00 am

    Perhaps you should take a look in the mirror, and update your assessment, in order to be more accurate — or actually, to manifest any accuracy, at all. Schmuck . . .

    Still Educating the Idiots on July 1, 2015 at 9:22 am

    What happened to #LoveWins? More like #Hate&Venom. You got what you wanted, why so angry?

    JeffT on July 1, 2015 at 10:06 am

Religious schools and churches are the entities that will find themselves under siege now.

Worry on July 1, 2015 at 2:09 am

” . . . the gay community is cricket-chirping silent about gays being dropped off skyscrapers or beheaded throughout the Muslim world.”

Except when they seek to morally equate Christianity (which they absolutely loathe, despise and hate, along with its tenets and values that they see as an impediment to their supremacist agenda) with Islam. That’s the only time they acknowledge such atrocities.

ConcernedPatriot on July 1, 2015 at 8:38 am

I am not surprised in the least. These two Libtards have always been pure horses’ asses! How about a few more gay flavors: Banana in Fudge with Nuts or Lickity Banana Split. I really hate these two fat ass cocksuckers!

MuzzCrusher on July 1, 2015 at 9:22 am

Curious about Muslim gays getting married in mosques ? We never hear any stories about this. What is the reply ?

John Collignon on July 1, 2015 at 10:38 am

I thought cows were female, and bulls were male. Is it possible that these are two lesbian cows? LOL!

On another note, Macy’s has dumped Donald Trump. Like Debbie, I am so sick of companies shoving their political opinions in our faces.

Jean on July 1, 2015 at 11:56 am

    The funny thing is, you can’t get milk from a cow unless she has become pregnant and given birth. Both processes CANNOT happen if the cow is involved in SSU (Same-Sex Union) activities.

    LindaF on July 4, 2015 at 5:28 am

As a Christian my belief is that marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman-period. Now having said that maybe with the ruling from the Supreme Court jesters the LGBTAUIYFC crowd will finally settle down and continue to get their “marriage licenses” and go about their business. Sure they will because it has already started with them trying to stifle religious freedom for people like myself who do not believe as they do. Now as to Ben and Jerry’s due to the US being a free nation we have the right not to do business with and buy products from leftwing nincompoop companies such as B&J. They can push that crap on someone else but as for me I’ll stick to Haagen-Dazs. One a better note I’ll bet that Mr. Cohen and Mr. Greenfield and other leftwing nut balls aren’t happy that the top restaurant in the country is good old Chick-fil-A. That in itself makes me want to go get some chicken for lunch and pick up some non-B&J ice-cream from the store. Have a great afternoon folks.

Ken B on July 1, 2015 at 11:57 am

I see that Ken B and I, despite our being at opposite poles on Coke and Pepsi, have an alliance on two things, Haagen Dazs and Christ. The left never stops, bro. It doesn’t stop here, just like a disease never stops spreading.

I’ll meet you in the third sub-basement for a couple of containers of Haagen Dazs and some Bible study. You bring the ice cream, I’ll bring the Bibles. Just don’t tell anyone, because they’ll both be banned soon.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on July 1, 2015 at 12:03 pm


    I will gladly meet you there buddy. I’ll bring some Neapolitan flavored Dazs while we go over The Word. You’re right that the depraved leftward jackanapes never stop. Since they’ve been given a big piece of cheese just like rats they’ll want the whole block. Sir you have a great Independence Day and that goes for Debbie and the usual posters here. Now I’m off to the land of Don Knotts, Joyce DeWitt and Randy Moss. Oh and Pepsi rocks…LOL.

    Ken B on July 2, 2015 at 10:07 am

It’s this whole Obola thing. They just just keep beating us over the head with these “fundamental transformations” and it’s become a juggernaut.

DS_ROCKS! on July 1, 2015 at 4:52 pm

“But why must I have it shoved in my face?”—Because that’s part of the thrill for the prog Left. It’s never enough to get their way in wrecking our country, but they have to annoy the f*k out of us about it also.

waynesteapartyworld on July 2, 2015 at 10:15 am

For a flavor, how about “Larry Sin-Eclair”? “Lindsey Graham Cracker”? “Cherry Sandusky”?

Adam Taxin on July 2, 2015 at 4:54 pm

It is extremely frustrating that when I spend time writing a comment it doesn’t get posted.

skzion on July 3, 2015 at 3:04 am

Leftist filth. No wonder I stopped buying anything with the name “Ben and Jerry’s” years ago.

RedSoloCup on July 4, 2015 at 6:41 pm

If you’re like me and think this whole “marriage equality” nonsense is a steaming pile of horsesh**, it’s time to start beating Political Gays and Lezzers at their own game…and RE-NAME their acronym to your own taste as I did…I REJECT LGBT…I now refer to it as TGL…Transsexuals first because they are the most discriminated against and treated horribly (and I like them the best out of the lot…and this does NOT include Bruce Jenner and Chaz Bono…who are NOT legit transsexuals, BTW…), Gays because I like them next and Lezzers because they are almost always annoying and un-fun and so I want them last. I have kicked bi-sexuals out because they are not real or authentic but really skanky and perverted. Take a hike, you AC-DC frauds!

Now, like DS I have accepted that the country has gone whack and that it is now law but I personally reject gays and lesbians thinking their “marriage” is on par with the hetero marriage I grew up to know. It makes a mockery of a vital institution (and I readily admit that hetero Bogans have made a mockery of it on their own and I detest that TOO!) and something that should be serious and covenantal.

SECONDLY, it is now law but the Supreme Court has become an ACTIVIST court and stepping where it has no right and wielding power it has NO RIGHT to. The Supreme Court is NOT an imperial court…it is a 3rd and equal wing of a three-pronged triumvirate! If only Prole Americans would wake up and slap those imperial usurpers back into their place, we’d be able to salvage the Republic. They are making things law of the land that they have NO RIGHT doing. If you disagree with me, we’ll check back in w/your dumb arse when pervo morons try to marry their frickin’ lawnmowers, animals and multiple amounts of men and women. And the Supreme Usurpers had better make other interstate issues just as legal as “gay” marriage is now…like laws RE: weapons permits state to state. Equal opportunity under the law does NOT just adhere to Libtarded issues, but you would think so in Moonbatty USA.

And lastly, think about all the gay peeps you have known and ask yourself how they felt about “gay” marriage a few years back…not many cared or wanted to have that designation. That is because this whole mockery of REAL marriage is not about “love” but deconstructing the culture, norms and mores of the once great USA. I don’t want to talk about the boring and fake construct of “love”…I am only interested in the TRUTH behind the lie of “gay” marriage. All other crap is just stuff to confuse the Proles or the dopes in “Rio Linda”! Stop insulting my intelligence!

Lastly, look at what that bionic-freak Ruskie Masha Gessen said RE: “gay” marriage. Letting the cat out of the freaky bag on the sly. I also wanted to bring her up because she’s ALSO the FREAK who wrote a book on the Tsarnaev Bros (Boston Marathon Jihadi Bombers)…I had no idea they were one and the same freakzoid but I just put it together…akin to some slimy and grotty SOB finding out he not only has syphilis but gonorrhea, too! So Masha just doesn’t want to deconstruct marriage into her own hellish clusterf**k of mental defection and nuttery, but she also wants to bait and switch RE: Mooooooooslims and the Islamic threat. She’s a fine nutter to trust! Hopefully ISIS finds her and does what they do best with her and her nonsense before they kill another innocent infidel! Throw her whack body off a tall building in lieu of some poor kafir, ISIS…she stands for all the things you see as haram AND she’s a Dhimmi, too!

C’mon people! I’m so sick of the pedestrian blather over the very serious destruction of goodness and freedom and liberty in America! I want to hear from people who really understand what is going on and what is at stake because all I see and hear are a bunch of retards falling for Potemkin Politics and nauseating PC regurgitated pukey pablum! This is more dire and needs very serious and furtive minds to tackle it!

Skunky on July 4, 2015 at 8:32 pm

    I’d love to cheer you on, Skunky, but my faggity [sic] whining mouth would offend.

    skzion on July 5, 2015 at 5:43 pm

    Skunky, you say “And the Supreme Usurpers had better make other interstate issues just as legal as “gay” marriage is now…like laws RE: weapons permits state to state. Equal opportunity under the law does NOT just adhere to Libtarded issues, but you would think so in Moonbatty USA.”

    I certainly agree with your point. Restrictive gun laws should certainly be invalidated. Maybe if Blue States felt their anti-gun state laws invalidated by SC imperialism they’d be more hesitant to cheer on the SC. But again, though, we cannot assume that one branch will constrain itself.

    As I said above–printed after you wrote your comment–it is well past the time that SCOTUS and the federal court system as a whole has its power reduced. We nee no amendment to do so. We could cripple the federal court system by not replacing judges after they retire. THAT would concentrate the attention of the feds all up the chain of command. A skeleton court system cannot be very interventionist, after all. One must hurt the branch where it lives. Indeed, while one cannot legally reduce the pay of a federal judge during his term, one need not provide courtrooms or other facilities. Also see my comments about appellate jurisdiction above.

    But as Little Al pointed out regarding Cruz, so-called conservatives don’t really want to take on the SC. They think that the public is protective of the SC. Me, I’m not so sure any more. There was a time that this was so. Now I think that the politics of the Court has weakened its hand. The political Supreme Court should be handled with political measures.

    skzion on July 9, 2015 at 8:16 pm

One of these days, the main comment I posted here will be recovered and posted. Until then, I’ll post another, based on the following:

“By the way, as I’ve said zillions of times on this site over the years, it’s no big deal or cause for celebration that gays can be open and enjoy many rights in this country, when the gay community is cricket-chirping silent about gays being dropped off skyscrapers or beheaded throughout the Muslim world.

Debbie has said this many times here, but I still don’t begin to understand the logic, and I think this particular topic is not conducive to logic by most serious conservatives. Why exactly is there no cause for celebration among gays here because gays elsewhere are still doing so poorly? Should the Jews of the US not complain about anti-Semitism here because the Jews of France have it much worse? Should a sizable proportion of Christians in the US stop defending Jews and Israel because the Jews of the US say little against Islamic depredations both here and elsewhere in the world?

Next I’ll address Not Ovenmuffin’s latest exercise in dumbness. After a notably unfunny effort at anti-gay humor, he attacked me out of the blue in typically subliterate terms. (The guy can’t even spell “faggot” correctly.) Why is this significant?

Well, a couple of years ago I proved that there was a sizable proportion of the US public that was viscerally anti-gay. Some might recall that I referenced multiple “feeling thermometers” over time from the American National Election Study. The data were a bit old (2000 being the latest date, I believe), but the relative stability of a core of real haters (those scoring “0” on a 0-100 “thermometer” of feelings toward gays) was notable. While I expect that the proportion of real haters has gone down in the past 15 years, this would mainly be because of so-called “population replacement” (old citizens dying and new ones being born).

So we return to Not an Ovenmuffin. This guy isn’t just tired of seeing gays around town. No, that wouldn’t explain his visceral reaction to me. After all, my comments on things gay are pretty rare, and vastly fewer than my comments on topics such as Islam and immigration. In fact, even when I write about gay issues, I’m not much of a “pro-gay” type, as even run-of-the-mill gays have told me before.

Gay bashers are no myth. We know–certainly–that there have been, and are, plenty of them. They tell us about themselves on validated opinion instruments. They aren’t just tired of da gayz the way Debbie is; no, they viscerally hate and are nauseated by gays. They can no longer implement their feelings quite so easily. Cry me a river.

skzion on July 5, 2015 at 3:02 pm

All whining faggots should die.
It’s that easy.
That includes you skzion.

Deal with it.

Not Ovenready on July 7, 2015 at 1:28 am

    Ovenmuffin, I think all fag bashers should die–and their ratty little offspring.

    skzion on July 7, 2015 at 6:49 am

    NO, why NOW are you ad hominem attacking Skzion? I’m pretty peeved at your attack at him. If you dislike him that much break his argument and not use invective that had nothing to do with the issue since he is a great fellow Conservative, too.

    We have gay Conservatives on our side and alienating them when they are NOT the enemy is foolish and mean-spirited. I’m not getting your agro behaviour towards him and I’m disappointed.

    Unless some Bogan hi-jacked your handle…which would make more sense because there are plenty of unstable nutters who do that here occasionally…

    Skunky on July 7, 2015 at 10:45 am

      And that last sentence, Skunky, is one of the reasons why I rarely post anymore.

      (i) 70% = No free time;
      (ii) 15% = Handle hijackers;
      (iii) 15% = at least one-third of my posts never go through, even after double and triple attempts.

      And even if I do find free time, which is Haile Unlaikleeh, reasons (ii) and (iii) will still prevent me from trying. My recent post to KenB was an exception. I believe Debbie mentioned a new software coming some day. I’ll wait on that.

      Alfredo from Puerto Rico on July 7, 2015 at 11:55 am

      I appreciate your comment, Skunky.

      skzion on July 8, 2015 at 12:16 am

nice Post, but It is extremely frustrating that when I spend time writing a comment it doesn’t get posted.

Avin on July 7, 2015 at 7:57 am

I made this comment yesterday, but, ironically, it went to SPAM. If a comment goes to SPAM, as mine have several times, send Debbie an email, and when she is able, considering her schedule, she will remove it from SPAM and make sure it is posted. As I said, this has happened to me a number of times, and it has never been intentional.

Little Al on July 7, 2015 at 12:03 pm

Debbie –

Where are you? Are you OK?

Toby on July 7, 2015 at 9:16 pm

I see people feel my pain regarding posting and it disappears into the either, especially when I’m making a cogent point. Very frustrating. I even used a biion handles for awhile, wasn’t being a troll, just trying to post lol.

And Skzion forget the dorks; you’re alright with me bro.

MrBigBrain on July 8, 2015 at 12:28 am

So this is how you attempt to win an election, just pit people against each other, first it was, lets blame the rich, then its a fake war on women, (there were more schisms but I can’t think now) but now its blame the Mexicans for our woes. lol. This is like a bad movie, I will sit back and watch.

Maybe its you, your drive, lack of steadfastness, bad decisions. Its not the Rich, the Negroes, the Mexicans, Women, the Gays, its just YOU! YOU! YOU! but good deflection, very entertaining.

MrBigBrain on July 8, 2015 at 2:48 pm

Debbie, where are you?

Hillel on July 8, 2015 at 4:37 pm

Chobani yogourt and Allstate insurance are also pushing gay marriage ads in our faces.

Hillel on July 10, 2015 at 9:47 am

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