March 16, 2010, - 1:35 pm

Meet the New “Green Police”: The Girl Scouts “Teach” Your Daughters

By Debbie Schlussel

If your daughter is a Girl Scout, you might hear about how horrible you are for serving meat for dinner. You see, meat is one of the new enemies of the Girl Scouts’ green zealotry. Ditto for toilets that only need to be flushed once.

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As a kid, I was a Brownie and then a Girl Scout.  But our troop–which was made up of the girls in my class at a private Jewish school and was headed by my mom and her friend–wasn’t political.  We baked stuff, learned how to tie knots and build tents, and we visited sick people in hospitals and old people in nursing homes who had nobody else to visit them.

Sadly, as I’ve noted several times in the past, the Girl Scouts is no longer what it used to be . . . and not in a good way.  In the recent past, Girl Scout badges are given out to scouts when they “master” the feminist view that men and marriage are bad and learn how to live as a single mother.  In addition, the Girl Scouts have embraced goths and worked with Planned Parenthood to “educate” Girl Scouts about abortion and condoms (and sleeping around). I guess that’s consistent with the single motherhood badge.

Now, the Girl Scouts are embracing the global warming, climate change, and green baloney.  Not only that, but the organization is making the green junk science a central Girl Scouts theme in conjunction with the organization’s 100th anniversary in 2012.  It’s a desperate, politically correct attempt to stem the hemorrhaging of the no longer hip organization that is nearly dead and definitely brain-dead in the age of Facebook, Twitter, and texting. It won’t work.

Although the organization has always strived to create stewards of nature, today, Girls Scouts of the USA is stepping up its “green” efforts as it prepares to celebrate its 100th anniversary in March 2012.

“We’re taking it to a new level,” says Harriet Hessam, the group’s centennial project director.

Last year, it published new handbooks, It’s Your Planet — Love It! that teach girls about the environment, including the negative impact of eating meat and drinking bottled water. It launched the “Girl Scouts Forever Green” project to challenge scouts to save energy and water. The project, which began in 10 councils and will be expanded nationwide, lets members track their specific accomplishments online. Last year, its participants said they collectively saved 42,000 gallons of water. The girls also are composting trash at school and learning to do energy audits.

On Saturday, . . . in Mill Valley, Calif., other Girl Scouts were removing ice plants along the waterways, because they tend to choke out native plants.

Yup, that evil “Big Vegetation.” When will the ice plants learn that living in harmony with native plants is more important than making a profit and hogging all the resources?

In a 2008 survey, members of the Girls Scouts picked the environment as the most important issue for them.

Ah, the brainwashing worked. Oh, goody.

“We are where the girls are. Right now, environmental action is very important to them. We allow them to lead us,” says Michelle Tompkins, spokeswoman of Girl Scouts of the USA. The scouts’ green efforts are playing out in big and small ways . . . .

•In the Washington, D.C., area, they’ve changed 4,276 light bulbs so far, switching from incandescents to more efficient compact fluorescent bulbs, mostly in their own homes. They’ve also distributed donated, reusable grocery bags in the city, which in January began to charge 5 cents for each plastic bag a shopper uses.

Ha! How many greenazi Girl Scouts does it take to screw in a fluorescent light bulb? Bah-dum-bum-ch.

•About an hour southwest of Denver, Cindy Orton says her troop . . . third-graders, plan to test how much water the low-flow toilets in their school are saving.

How much water does it save when you have to flush the low-flow toilet four times to get it all, um, “flowed” out of your toilet and into the sewage system? I’ll bet Ms. Orton ain’t teachin’ the girls about that. . . .

Joanne of Illinois, who has been involved in Girl Scouts since age 5, says protecting the environment is critical. “It’s one of the few things we all have in common,” she says. “If everybody does something small, we can make drastic changes.”

Dream on, Joanne. Your “something small” won’t change a thing. It’s a waste of time built on a cult of faux-knowledge. Wake the heck up. Not eating meat (someone needs to cull the herds) and not using regular toilets that you only need to flush once, are problems not solutions.

Remember, with indoctrination like that of the Girl Scouts, this could be our future, not just a funny Super Bowl ad:

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Debbie just scratched the surface of what a cesspool the girl scouts have become.
Check out the above link. The Girl Scouts past out information on that teach their members how to masturbate and how to enjoy pre-marital sex.
As the title of the article state “It’s not your mother’s Girl Scouts” anymore.

smg45acp on March 16, 2010 at 1:52 pm

It is very sad actually. The Boy Scouts have been virtually destroyed as an organization, due to their failure to embrace openly gay scout masters and other progressive fads. Unfortunately, the Girl Scouts have bought at least temporary survival at the cost of making their organization nothing more than a junior activist group for the left.

Worry01 on March 16, 2010 at 2:01 pm

We shouldn’t eat meat but we should eat their very fattening cookies?

Wilda in NY on March 16, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    Cookies don’t have feelings

    Animals do.

    Sam Adams on March 16, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    Not only fatty cookies but loaded with PROCESSED/ REFINED SUGAR!!

    PROCESSED/REFINED Sugar a product that is NOT good for you ever!

    I am a volunteer diabetes educator, trust me on this!

    We have not bought those cookies in over 30 years. They are pure garbage, politics aside…. the cookies are GARBAGE!

    Sewsalot on March 17, 2010 at 12:25 am

While the Boy Scouts was originally created as an explicitly religious effort to help low-income males (to this day most Boy Scout groups are organized through churches and church-affiliated organizations) the Girl Scouts was always a a more secular feminist group. Of course, it reflected a far more conservative culture at the time (its founder after all was from Savannah, Georgia), and the very fact that it was a scouting organization also acted to keep the organization from becoming too radical too quickly.

But it was still explicitly begun because “the boys have one!” and to promote “sisterhood” and to elevate the status of girls. For example: the Boy Scouts focus was on “responsible citizenship, character development, and self-reliance.” The Girl Scouts’ focus on the other hand: “fairness, compassion, courage, confidence, sisterhood, self-esteem.” The Girl Scouts were a feminist group from the get-go. They just weren’t radical or cutting edge until now when it is acceptable in mainstream society to be so. For instance, there exists an informal relationship between the Girl Scouts and Planned Parenthood that no one talks about because it is not that big a deal: it doesn’t shock or surprise anyone because Planned Parenthood is mainstream and accepted (receiving taxpayer money from both Republican and Democratic administrations and Congresses for decades).

But it should come as no surprise that there are several religious alternatives for Girl Scouts like the American Heritage Girls, founded in 1995 by fed-up parents. Of course, the lberal media is doing a great job of keeping the true nature of girl scouts from being a topic of public discussion, so most parents simply don’t know what is going on (hey, it worked for public schools for who knows how long!). Regrettably, the conservative media doesn’t talk much about this either.

Gerald on March 16, 2010 at 2:26 pm

I learned, a while ago, how corrupt they are. I love Girl Scout Cookies, but this may have been the last year I buy. Corrupt to the bone.!

Daphne on March 16, 2010 at 2:39 pm

I wont even buy Girl Scout Cookies anymore. Some things we can just do without, like a box of 9 cookies for 5 bucks!

ditto on March 16, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    Ditto! :)

    Who cares? on March 16, 2010 at 5:13 pm

I want to repost this whole blog post… really really badly.

thanks for exposing this. it’s disgusting. they are just children. they don’t need to be indoctrinated into a thing that is supposed to be secular, but teaches a brainwashing religious zealotry of hate.

I’m all for women’s dignity, but this isn’t dignity. this causes hate.

Noah David Simon on March 16, 2010 at 3:05 pm

I will never buy a box of those f*****g cookies again.

#1 Vato on March 16, 2010 at 3:20 pm

The girl scouts have become an arm of the democrat party. This has been going since the 1970′s when they took loyalty out of the oath. The difference between the boy scouts and girl scouts is startling. The boy scouts are denied certain rights because they want you to pledge to G-d and expect you to be part of some religion while the girl scouts are brainwashing young girls to be liberal’s have the government be their husband. Boy scouts teach to be a service to others while the girl scouts are not about self esteem and being true to oneself. The most terrible part of it though is that while many Christian parents have pulled their girls from the girl scouts and formed their own group called American heritage girls religious Orthodox communities do send their girls to the girl scouts and not only this they don’t like the boy scouts. Really pathetic.

The girl scouts slide since the 1970′s. Nothing new about this. The snake in the bible first tried to get the woman off the path. Without woman having morals and thinking beyond themselves there is no future regardless of what the men do but sadly usually the men go along with the women when they tell them to do immoral things which also is nothing new.

adam on March 16, 2010 at 3:25 pm

A little known fact about the cookies. They are baked year round. That’s right, that girl scout cookie you’re eating could have been made almost a year ago. Think there are any preservatives in that cookie? How’s that for your health or the environment? And have you noticed that all the cookies come in plastic trays wrapped in plastic bags? How’s that for the environment?

Kaiser Sozay on March 16, 2010 at 3:32 pm

Sad to say I do think though some parents are sending their girl’s to the girl scouts having no idea of how vile they have become. They think because the boy scouts are OK the girl scouts are just a female version but that is not the case.

adam on March 16, 2010 at 3:42 pm

Sad to say I do think though some parents are sending their girl’s to the girl scouts having no idea of how vile they have become.

adam on March 16, 2010 at 3:43 pm

The Girl Scouts is becoming just like the Brown Shirts or Nazi Youth League during the reign of Hitler.

I am sure Barry Soetoro will take the Girl Scouts over just like GM and incorporate them into the Obama Youth Corps.

Why can’t people see what is happening in America, history is repeating itself.

They are using environmentalism to mandate the take over of America into a fascist police state.

ScottyDog on March 16, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    Ditto!
    All the signs, signals & wonders are hiding in plain site, but, ONLY those with eyes to see, and ears to hear, can find them.

    Who cares? on March 16, 2010 at 5:18 pm

Hey the girl scouts are growing little watermelons! Green on the outside and commie red on the inside. How precious!

Conservation and wise use of resources is one thing. But today’s rabid environmentalism is yesterday’s communism.

I’ll be passing on their cookies from now on, too.

Matt on March 16, 2010 at 4:14 pm

maybe the girl scouts should be recalled just like their cookies.

http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2010/02/26/2010-02-26_girl_scout_cookie_company_little_brownie_bakers_recalls_lemon_chalet_cremes_cook.html

ender on March 16, 2010 at 4:49 pm

Where does all the cookie money go? Good bet it’s lefty environmental orgs, planned parenthood, etc.

adam on March 16, 2010 at 5:57 pm

Muslim this, Muslim that, Debbie i guarantee in your youth ( a long time ago) you were dumped by a muslim man , now you dye your hair blonde and come back for revenge!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I suggest Debbie stop being a loser and go out there and be a part of our political system and make a difference…..opps i forget you tried and lost miserbly!!!!!

Obama bruzz on March 16, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    Did you actually have something to say on this topic, or was your purpose to expose your middle school intellect? The next time you post something, either read the topic or have your mother read it to you first.

    Worry01 on March 17, 2010 at 1:36 am

    Listen up girl: (you have to be a girl as a man would never talk like that. If you have male DNA you’re just a girlie boy), but probably just a vacuous and vicious girl.

    I highly suspect Ms. Schlussel was never “dumped” by a Muslim man.

    Not sure what part of the planet you live on, but brains, body, and beauty are RARE. Check out the 2 schools on Mass. Ave in in Cambridge and tell me how many you find.

    Regarding politics, I hope she enters again. Not many make Senate/Congress on their first try. Lincoln failed MANY times before becoming president.

    Check out her bio about going undercover in mosques, MENSA membership, etc.
    I’d be willing to bet my LIFE that you can’t even come close, not even remotely close to this courage. Come on girl, show some ovarian fortitude.

    I SO HOPE you’re not banned. Your venom only motivates righteous people to work harder. I’ve only donated once to Ms. Schlussel, this will change.

    Come on over to CrazyIslam.com where we get death threats daily and let’s play, shall we?

    Jew lover on March 17, 2010 at 2:06 am

http://www.ippf.org/NR/rdonlyres/B4462DDE-487D-4194-B0E0-193A04095819/0/HappyHealthyHot.pdf

Link above to PDF of brochure “Happy, healthy and Hot” distributed to the Girl Scouts at the UN.

wtd on March 16, 2010 at 6:28 pm

Hey bruzzie, here’s the real reason that mosquerat
dumped Debbie: she was over the age of 6 at the time,
and he found her intimidating. I’d be more concerned
about his plans for revenge! And I can’t think of
anyone who works as hard to make a difference as
Debbie. That’s indeed being part of the political
system, unless, of course, your pal Ovomit succeeds
in his monstrous effort to destroy it.

demonneant on March 16, 2010 at 7:47 pm

“the Girl Scouts have embraced goths”

What’s wrong with the Gothic clothing style, Debbie?
If someone likes the color black, let them wear it all they want.

Charybdis_SeaStar on March 16, 2010 at 8:35 pm

That any of you could consider the Girl Scouts akin to the Hitler Youth because they passed out a pamphlet explaining sex or because they are encouraged to not use plastic water bottles is f***ing absurd. Jesus Christ.

[F-word edited by DS.]

Ragnar on March 16, 2010 at 9:54 pm

It’s no secret that the “ideal” identity for modern girls is personified by the ghetto “ho”. The more tattoos and piercings they can acquire, the sluttier their language and behavior can become, the hipper they feel. I guess we should be relieved that the GSA still exists, even though most of these young women will almost certainly be irreversibly damaged by the time they reach adulthood.

Graty Slapchop on March 16, 2010 at 10:58 pm

Spot on Debbie …. and most posters on this thread.

I nominate this article for the DS.com hall of fame..
This one really turns the lights on. I ate ONE GSA cookie today.. my last for all times!

BB on March 16, 2010 at 11:46 pm

I joined the Girl Scouts but I never really got anything out of it … now I see why …

AG on March 16, 2010 at 11:59 pm

I don’t find that Green Police ad funny at all.*

Have you ever shopped at Whole Foods? In my neck of the woods, the checkout clerks make snide remarks when you buy 365-brand junk food and their bottled water. Ask about their new employee “health screening” the next time you’re at Whole Foods.

* You won’t find that Green Police ad funny when it becomes a televised Public Service Warning, not an ad for a car company.

Praying for the asteroid.

Sylvia on March 17, 2010 at 12:51 am

Debbie, I noticed your favorite website has stolen from you again. Yep, WorldNetDaily has an “exlusive” over there about this same story.

BWR on March 17, 2010 at 9:04 am

I just lost my trefoils

ward on March 17, 2010 at 10:44 am

There’s nothing good and decent that the Left can’t defile.

Tempus Fugit on March 17, 2010 at 10:53 am

Ragnar, it is akin to Hitler Youth not because of content but because of its secular vigor.

jcm on March 17, 2010 at 11:25 am

as an Eagle Scout……
I am appalled at what has happend to the girl scouts….
thank god the boy scouts did not bow down to the statists… with that said… they are marked for distruction… which will happend anyway because of low numbers…my old troop which in my day was anywhere between 40-50 kids if not more…… sometimes numbering near 60, is now down to 15 and “growing” as i was told. i knew of a lot of kids my age or older that could have gone bad if not for the positive influence of scouting..

mark mallia on March 17, 2010 at 1:36 pm

This is not about a “single motherhood badge” – these hags would be horrified if their daughters became pregnant and would drag them to Planned Parenthood for their abortions. Don’t buy girl scout cookies any more. It has become blood money for PP.

Julian on March 17, 2010 at 1:57 pm

I’ve been a Girl Scout since 1967. We USED TO have The Four Program Emphases: Develop to her full individual potential.
Relating to others with increasing understanding, skill, and respect. Develop values to guide her actions and to provide the foundation for sound decision-making. Contributing to the improvement of society through the use of her abilities and leadership skills, working in cooperation with others.

It had been this way since 1947 until the around 2000.

It was grounded in the three-part promise, Service to G-d, Country and other People. My Girl Scout Promise that I made when I “flew-up” in 1968 was almost word for word the Boy Scout Promise my Father made as a boy and the exact same Girl Scout Promise my mother made as a girl.

Before 1970 the Girl Scouts were NOT into fads or fashion of the times since certain things were “timeless” the activities might change, but not the program of progression in gaining the skills and knowledge to be an active participant as an adult. Someone to be counted upon and dependable.

Can’t say that now for every girl that is a Girl Scout.

Sandra on March 17, 2010 at 2:08 pm

I was a scout, a boy one, learned the code which makes a man above the petty temptations in life. I don’t recall having to be anything but striving for good character. There was this thing about brownies back then but I guess that is all just fine too these days.

I have to say this though, I went to the local building supply store one day and forgot I had my Oathkeepers shirt on and the scouts were handing out those little flowers with a wire for donations, which I always though required something more manly to ask money for, which I gladly peeled of a ten for and said its for a good cause. I didn’t get one step and I was hailed SIR, I turned to see a row of smart young lads all at attention and in unison as if rehearsed, Thank you SIR. Made my day. There is always hope when you set a proper example for the youth, enough of them that is.

A pen on March 17, 2010 at 9:03 pm

Its a plot to turn all girl scouts into lesbians?

Chuck on March 18, 2010 at 4:58 am

Lucifer is trying to teach you folks a lesson… If there are no girls in the Girl Scouts, then none of those evil activities will can occur.

The Goodness on March 25, 2010 at 10:24 pm

Not really sure why you are all being hateful about Girl Scouts. I was a Girl Scout and now my daughter is one. All I have ever learned from Girl Scouts and what my daughter is learning about is how to be: Honest and faithful, Considerate and caring, responsible for what you say and do, courageous and strong, and other positive character building items. I have never, nor has my daughter, been educated on masturbation or planned parenting. We have never been told that eating meat is wrong. We have learned that you need to take better care of the place we live (city, state, planet), but not in a forceful “greenazi” way.

I do not see what is wrong with teaching positive character traits or how to take better care of where you live.

People either like Girl Scout Cookies or they don’t. There are a lot of sweets in the market today. You chose what you put in your body; no one else does.

You should all take your hate some where else.

Melody on March 31, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    Melody- you are the only sane one on this site. I am a girl scout leader and teach my girls about their unique abilities and talents, and how they can use that to “make the world a better place.” Debbie S, you are a WACKADOO!!! I was trying to get helpful info to teach my girls about diabetes education, and I ended up at this joke of a site instead. It will never happen again.

    Ms Mouse on April 16, 2010 at 2:07 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OJ0ghjLZlM I am not just a troop leader but voted Outstanding Troop Leader of The Year , My service unit manager has a handicapped child who for 2 years has earned her badges , participated in all events , and sold their cookies and nuts like crazy . Now at the 11th hour she has been informed there are no facilities in Texas that Shelby can go to . This gets worse , She was also awarded for her service this year , for questioning this they have stripped her of her volunteer work , and have as of yet to give her the award she was to receive , i happened to be at that meeting . I am so proud to be a leader what we can do to change the course of a child’s life is beautiful . Please stop this , I have investigated this and am willing to get you anything more you need , in my research I found our GS had been investigated by ABC news in 2008 , the same year Shelby started . Here is the link to that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN7LV7OhVnM , please somebody help me help her .

Brandy Collins on May 16, 2010 at 11:53 am

This whole blog and all the comments are based on B.S. I have yet to see any real proof that any of these accusations are true. My sister is a leader and she is boiling after seeing this. Right, we don’t eat meat here in the heartland! I live in a very, very conservative part of the country. If any of this were true, it would be in the “real” news. This idea that there is some media conspiracy to hide the news about the Girl Scouts reflects the hatred I see on the Internet and the amount of people who want to believe it b/c it fits their warped world views.

Mary in Indy on June 23, 2010 at 6:11 pm

I don’t know about the troops where you live, but troop #359, where I am a Cadette, has never learned how to masturbate, and the only time we have talked about sex was the whole, “If you get raped and aren’t comfortable with telling your parents, tell one of us (troop leaders)”. Yes we do things to learn how to reduce, reuse, and recycle, but we learn all that in school any way. My silver award project was a pet supply drive. Girl Scouts is a wonderful organization IF you have the right troop leaders. Something tells me you got kicked out of GS and now you’re getting revenge. We learn about religious tolerance. We live in a small Christian town and we understand that when we get out of here we shouldn’t shun others because of their religion. At least compared to Boy Scouts we aren’t going to be the people who start protests at a soldier’s funeral because they were homosexual. We participate in something called AngelWorx, where the little girls color pictures and the older girls deliver them to hospitals and nursing homes. We go Christmas Caroling for Hospice patients, and we learn how to do complete matinence on a car. We even have a Women in Math and Science confrence every year for non Girl Scouts. All the cookie money goes to local councils and there is actually a rule that bans us from raising money for other organizations. It has been temporaraly lifted though so we can raise money in partnership with Red Cross for the earthquake victims in Japan. We went camping last summer in Indiana weather. Learn the facts before being such an idiot.

Katherine on April 12, 2011 at 1:30 am

Well aside from the last few comments, this is yet another argh things are changing and we don’t like it whingefest.
I mean how very dare an outdoors organisation have concerns about the environment and wish to have its member try and change things in small but potentially effective ways.
Oh and lets not educate children about ways to avoid pregnancy should natural urges manifest themselves. Lets keep them in the dark and teach them sex is a bad, bad thing, you’ll go to hell for even thinking about it.
After all why would we want women to think for themselves and form their own opinion, no, we should just teach them how to be good housewives and housekeepers.

WHB on June 3, 2011 at 9:58 pm

THIS IS NOT GOOD. Seriously, marriage isn’t bad, I mean when a couple is married, they actually work together to solve their problems and stuff (unless one of them has cheated then that’s another issue) and men are not really bad, i thought they were supposed to promote gender equality, instead, they’re making men look evil, not all men are evil or something, there are still good men like that random guy who opened the door for you without expecting it to happen or that guy who bumped to you and even helped you put the stuff that you have dropped back together. Not all guys are mean. This is going out of hand, I mean, come on, they’re spending too much time talking about sex like it’s our only purpose in life when we still have a lot of more important things to do than that like finish high school, get a college degree and get a decent house and a job. I mean abstinence (in sex) is more easier than having to go on diet and give up those foods that you used to enjoy eating. My point is, there are so much things that are more important than having sex but of course, parents have to teach their daughters how to stay safe from rapists and the like and tell them that there are more important things in life than having sex at such a young age.

Therese on October 1, 2011 at 6:37 am

I have been a leader for 8 years and the liberal tone of Girl Scouts has always been there , but it has been mild and able to ignore. We have gotten pressure recently from council to use the Journey books. I picked up the Journey books last week and read the first one until my eyes bled. The liberal tones were no longer mild, they now scream. There is no more interest badges for the girls to explore things that interest them such as sports or crafts. They have been replaced with activist actions that are rewarded with badges. The book I read suggests that girls watch Al Gore’s movie and spew false global warming “facts”. They are told not to eat meat and to spread this idea as cattle take up too much grain and space and we can plant grain in those areas to “feed the world”. Its disgusting and shameful, this is not the Girl Scouts I grew up with . This will be my last year as a leader as I will not be responsible for filling the heads of young girls with these lies and agendas. The books I got will never see the girls as they will be burned.

Chelle on October 11, 2011 at 9:25 pm

You all should be ashamed of your selves. It’s more than the superficial junk your saying. Like about the cookies seriously eat in moderation people get control. I’m a leader who takes pride in my girls and our ways. I personally hand pick each lesson I teach the girls and make sure it’s to better the planet, learn about cultures and help everything in everyway. Just because one troop does something bad doesn’t mean its all girl scouts. After all we are your future so deal with it.

Girl scout power on February 28, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    No, it is you who should be ashamed to chide people for making an informed decision. Girl Scouts of the USA has depended on the ignorance of its members to build an cookie-funded empire created with free, child-slave labor and the good will of volunteer parents. If you want to support the Progressive feminist agenda, that is your choice, but do not denigrate parents who are finding Truth. GSUSA and WAGGGS view its members as nothing more than cash cows funding anti-population conferences at the United Nations in the name of Global Climate Change hysteria. See for yourself how cookie money pays for 1/3 of this rubbish, “WAGGGS delegate advocates for Sexual and Reproductive Rights via Climate Change Agenda at CO16″… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxbOdZVnJOE

    HonestGirlScouts DotCom on June 4, 2012 at 4:08 pm

You are all lunatics. This is just absurd. Who can hate an organization that’s sole purpose is to help girls become leaders in their communities? Their mission statement is “to build girls of courage, confidence, and character.” Wow. How scary.

A person has to be filled with a lot of hate to think Girl Scouts is evil.

Jennifer on November 6, 2012 at 10:33 pm

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