July 13, 2010, - 4:38 pm

VIDEOs: 2 Goldbergs on Mel Gibson–Whoopi Absurdly Defends, Bill Gets It

By Debbie Schlussel

If you monitor ABC’s “The View”–as I do for its goldmine of idiocy and estrogen-laden mind-poison–you won’t be surprised by what I saw yesterday.  Whoopi Goldberg–who previously defended Helen Thomas’ anti-Semitic remarks, said Roman Polanski “didn’t rape rape,” and denied we really landed on the Moon–defended “my friend, Mel Gibson.”  She claimed Gibson isn’t a racist nor an anti-Semite.  Apparently, in her warped mind, if you’re drunk, you can’t be anti-Semitic.  The video is below, but I prefer the REAL Goldberg, Bill Goldberg’s, solution to the Mel Gibson problem (watch the video):  “I think Mel Gibson should get his ass kicked by a big Jew like me.” I doubt that the draft-dodging coward Gibson would be any match.

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Two of a Kind

It’s so sad that far-left Joy Behar is now the voice of reason on this silly show. But she is. What do you expect with an airhead like Elisabeth Hasseldumb as the “conservative” on the show?

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Mel’s spokesman has “quit” and no one out of Mel’s camp is commenting. I’d say he’ll get some time for the domestic abuse.

I would never blame the (gold digging) victim (extensive history of going from rich man to rich man).

Mel is at fault. His career is over.

As goes Israel - so goes the World on July 13, 2010 at 4:44 pm

I can’t understand Goldi Whoopberg’s defense. I can understand wanting to kick his ass, though

As goes Israel - so goes the World on July 13, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    This is a good example of Gen 12. Mel’s anti Semitism has resulted in his own destruction. You see it time and time again. Maligning Israel is the equivalent of poking your finger in God’s eye.

    As goes Israel - so goes the World on July 13, 2010 at 7:14 pm

Yeah, I saw this too (by happenstance…I can’t bare to watch the silly beeotch show). I guess Whoopi does not think he’s a “racist-racist”.

The wonderful thing about Mel Gibson (whom I at one time adored) is that he is getting his just desserts. It’s disgusting when a hedonistic, Hollywood heathen leaves his wife and children for some gold-digging arse, but when a hypocritical, religious, anti-semite who’s proven to be a grand hypocrite in all he supposedly stands for, well, I was waiting for this day.

His flaunting his gold-digger, baby mama just made me so sick. He never, ever respected her, and she ought to have known that. She’s a star-effer basterd factory.

Skunky on July 13, 2010 at 5:24 pm

It’s disgusting how Hollywood makes excuses for inexcusable behavior! I love most of Mr.Gibson’s movies. I think he’s a great actor. It makes me so angry that beneath the talent lies a despicable person.

Abbey on July 13, 2010 at 5:52 pm

Bill Goldberg & Mel Gibson? I smell a Pay Per View…better call Vince McMahon. Gibson is a nice enough guy [sober]. Sadly today, he is a raging alcoholic run amok. Any one of us could be that Gonzoed if we drank like he did. The guy needs help, but the wreckage he has caused is his problem alone. If you listen to the unedited tapes, you can hear he is on speaker phone. The gal (Tera Titzoff?) is being quietly coached by someone in the room with her. Mel is a dumbass who walked into a Russian bear trap. He needs the jail time to dry out. Just another pathetic drunk….I did hear where she pulled a similar $cam with her last husband Timothy Dalton.

#1 Vato on July 13, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    That beoch he took up with was born in Ukraine and claims to be a Roman Catholic. She is not a Russian.

    Mel is a mentally ill alcoholic.

    I knew a man who was nice when sober and not stressed out. But just let him take a drink and EVERYBODY was his enemy… even his own kids! He got violently angry and the insults flew like crazy and his tirades are horrible.

    He had high blood pressure and never took medications. They made him sick to his stomach when he drank. So he never would take them.

    He died in his sleep of a brain hemmorage at the age of 52… not really that old.

    Personally I have trouble condeming a sick old drunk like Mel for his tirades, his hateful speech and his stupidity.

    However, he is a prime example of a person who gains the richs of the world and loses his soul.

    I am just going to pray for him and pray that someday he can overcome the “DEMON RUM” and learn to love himself and OTHERS as much as he loves that “DEMON RUM”.

    Sewsalot on July 14, 2010 at 12:35 pm

[I can’t understand Goldi Whoopberg’s defense. I can understand wanting to kick his ass, though

As goes Israel – so goes the World on July 13, 2010 at 4:45 pm]

She and others like Jodi Foster defend Gibson because they’re good friends of his and have worked with him. I don’t blame them. A lot stuff that was said by Gibson to his baby mama is said all the time by couples arguing. It’s too bad we only have her side of the story, I wonder what stuff she said when the call wasn’t being recorded.

Norman Blitzer on July 13, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    (The gold digger) Her side of the story is all the is needed. There is NO JUSTIFICATION for the kind of verbal abuse. Enjoy your fall, Mel, you earned it by being anti Semite.

    As goes Israel - so goes the World on July 13, 2010 at 7:16 pm

I wonder how many more Hollywood careers would hang in the balance if private phone conversations were secretly recorded and then broadcast? Amazing how forgiving our culture is over John Mayer and Senator Byrd dropping N-bombs during interviews and Alec Baldwin calliing his daughter a “thoughtless little pig”. would love to see what goes on in phone conversations between Robin Wright and Sean Penn.

Richard on July 13, 2010 at 6:38 pm

There is a misperception in general that the way someone behaves when intoxicated is the “real” person not hiding behind his social face. In fact, alcohol changes a person’s personality. Add to that anger and the personality is changed even more. I know nothing of Gibson’s “true” personality, I can only judge on what I’ve heard on this tape, all of which is wrong.

BoKnows on July 13, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    While intoxicated, the REAL DEMON gets out.

    As goes Israel - so goes the World on July 14, 2010 at 12:07 pm

If you don’t understand the difference between right and wrong, you won’t get it. Judeo-Christian civilization sees Man is a created being who owes G-d a duty and so G-d owes us a duty. Islam on the other hand rejects this view and is agnostic on the very question of human responsibility before G-d and what G-d owes man. Western faith is guided by reason; Islam is guided by force. The same people who reject Western religion happen to be the same people who see nothing wrong with and in fact may well approve of Islamic agnosticism because it parallels their own. There is no great mystery here.

NormanF on July 13, 2010 at 6:58 pm

No opinion about Mel, but I have one on scary black guys. The scariest of all is that pinhead in the White House

rdj120 on July 13, 2010 at 7:00 pm

I’d consider Mel as anti-semitic and racist as the Reverend Jerry Wright only, scarier. Where did he learn this behavior from? Influences from his past of course.

You can’t listen to 15-20 years of pejoratives aimed at ethnic groups(like some people have)and not be swayed. But, the media cherrypicks around Wright’s polemics, like the “p-ussies,” they are.

patrick on July 13, 2010 at 8:16 pm

Thanks (S)Mel(Ley) Gibson for showing us once again what you call your “faith”. You know in your heart you are right, you are always right in the sick reality of the movie that endlessly plays on the screen in the back of your skull where it is still 1939. You recently stated to your latest female punching bag that you have no friends. You are right. That is what the hate drug takes first. I doubt even BP could find a way to plug the rank pollution that pours from the crack in your face. Hey Whoopie, how do you like his use of the “N” word, I guess even you are left speechless for once.

Ron Wolf on July 13, 2010 at 8:26 pm

Well another person who is constantly putting down blacks is Rush Limbaugh. He just did it today, stating that ‘That cracker made a lot of African-Americans millionaires and fired a lot of white people.’ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/13/rush-limbaughs-steinbrenn_n_645046.html
He has called President Obama ‘The Magic Negro’. And previously stated that football player Donovan McNabb was overrated by the media because he’s black.
Rush may not have said the ‘N’ word in public, but with these negative comments said in public–I’d like to hear what he says when he is drunk!

Sange on July 13, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    Oh yeah, Huffington Post is a great, reliable source…not. try listening to rush IN context. If I remember right, Rush was commenting on that ultra-racist Black Panther (who advocates all whites being killed).

    Richard on July 13, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    Sange, I find it interesting that you called “President Obama ‘The Magic Negro’”, stated “football player Donovan McNabb was overrated by the media because he’s black”, and “That cracker made a lot of African-Americans millionaires and fired a lot of white people.” I am using this website and your posting on it as a direct reference for what you just stated.

    Now, how do you think and feel about you being taken out of context? Please do some real research (such as actually listening to the show) and get educated about issues/what was said and its context before letting the world know about your ignorance and lack of intelligence.

    PatsPFS on July 14, 2010 at 9:27 am

    What if it is TRUE?

    As goes Israel - so goes the World on July 14, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    Yeah Sange, you WISH Rush Limbaugh was as racist as you believe him to be.

    Your post can be debunked so easily. You’re just a hack who spews lying liberal talking points. You’re like Kirsten Powers…a Lib apologist who does not do her homework and are ill prepared for a good debate.

    Skunky on July 14, 2010 at 2:10 pm

Let’s face it: Mel Gibson never grew up. He was a good actor, never great. And even though I’ve never seen the “Thrashing of the X-t” – oopsie… “Passion of the Christ” – it appears that this guy is overcompensating for his lack of immaturity. He makes Lindsay Lohan look like Mother Teresa with his antics. And with latest dalliance with a Rooski strumpet, he’d make Roman Polanski look like a MILF hunter.

And with that shall we get on with our lives. Go get ‘em and do ‘er, Bill Goldberg. Leave some for Brock.

The "Reverend" Jacques on July 13, 2010 at 11:15 pm

    I prefer to call it what it is… Mel has a demon. We all heard it move his tongue. Take it or leave it. I don’t really care if you agree.

    As goes Israel - so goes the World on July 14, 2010 at 12:11 pm

I guess two crackpots do not equal a coherent pot.

pat on July 13, 2010 at 11:56 pm

Interestingly, at the 1:47 point in this clip, Mel performs an homage to three very famous Jewish comedians:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUlfNMTc6Xc

Daniel H on July 14, 2010 at 12:23 am

Actually, the crack about the “Magic Negro” that Rush was poking fun at was first written by some staff writer at the LA Times. Rush was just poking fun at the comment and even has a pretty funny parody song done to the tune of “Puff the Magic Dragon” but he calls it “Barack the Magic Negro” and its sung, in parody of course, by Al Sharpton using a megaphone. Pretty funny stuff. So Sange, please try getting your stuff together before you make a fool of yourself.

kenny komodo on July 14, 2010 at 8:11 am

Whoopi is an idiot. How does one speak such garbage about Jews, blacks and not be a racist? I suspect he will use being drunk as an excuse. Having been formerly married to a drunk for 18 years, I know they speak their true feelings when drunk. Alcohol remove inhibitions and this loosens the controls one normally has on their mouths. So go to hell Whoopi. Why not try defending people who deserve it. Not people like Gibson and Polanski.

Musiccgirl on July 14, 2010 at 8:38 am

I don’t know Mel Gibson. I would guess that no one on this board knows Mel Gibson. At the time Mel was producing The Passion of the Christ I would read stories of his drinking binges and some of his interviews during that period seemed just a bit odd. It was clear Mel had issues and I was thinking he produced the Passion film as a kind of redemption.

I would not be surprised if Mel has an undiagnosed condition such as clinical depression. Men often are in denial of such afflictions and they turn to alcohol to deal with the symptoms. I know this from experience. I’ll go out on a limb here and not condemn Mel but say that he needs our prayers. He has issues and needs help.

To paraphrase Christ, let he who has never uttered or thought a racial slur in anger cast the first stone.

There I said it!

Oscar

Oscar on July 14, 2010 at 9:14 am

    Another lib shifting blame to an illness.

    OY!

    As goes Israel - so goes the World on July 14, 2010 at 12:13 pm

      You may not believe this but a cortisone shot can OFTEN send a person who is bi-polar into a psychotic rage. The person can be completely out of control. I have seen this happen and saw the person put his head through a glass window. It was terrifing!

      It is NOT out of the range of possibilities that Mel has a chemical depression issue and alcohol makes him do things that a normal well adjusted person would never do.

      I have great problems with the fact that you call a person a “LIB” because they refuse to condemn a person and want to pray for them.

      Sewsalot on July 14, 2010 at 12:51 pm

Hello, Oscar… as an ex-addict, I’ve been where Mel Gibson has been.

The difference is that I’ve accepted my terminal condition and have taken steps to control it. This is not a curable disease – once you have a taste and get hooked, you’re hooked for life and beyond.

I would not be surprised if Mel has an undiagnosed condition such as clinical depression. Men often are in denial of such afflictions and they turn to alcohol to deal with the symptoms. I know this from experience. I’ll go out on a limb here and not condemn Mel but say that he needs our prayers. He has issues and needs help.

Granted, but I’m quite sure that Mel stands to lose everything, and that there are so many resources that he could use to avoid falling into the same hole twice. He could afford them, but his latest tirade has proven that he has not yet chosen rehab.

But one thing stands to reason: it’s hard to purge whatever is bred in the bone. Mel Gibson may need our prayers, but this is his battle, and this ensuing controversy should serve as an intervention. Either the masses carry it out, or the police: the choice is up to Mr. Gibson alone.

I’ll be happy to pray for Mel, even though I’m agnostic, but he still deserves to get slapped.

The "Reverend" Jacques on July 14, 2010 at 9:43 am

This is what SNL’s take on Mel Gibson was after his first rant (by Adam Samberg):
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/schillervision-hidden-camera/2656/

Looks like they got it too!

Sange on July 14, 2010 at 9:47 am

My sister told me about this yesterday. I said ” holy cow, you watch the view”? His career is over, has been over since his anti Jew rant. I am curious as to why some of these hollywood types are so darn ignorant. But, I guess when you leave your spouse of many years and hook up with someone the same age as your oldest daughter, there might be a problem.

shaon on July 14, 2010 at 10:02 am

    shaon:

    You got it! Go to the head of the class.

    shaon posted: “His career is over, has been over since his anti Jew rant.”

    As goes Israel - so goes the World on July 14, 2010 at 12:15 pm

Clinical depression does not cause anti-Semitism, nor does it excuse you from knocking a tiny woman’s teeth out.

Quit defending this jack ass, merely because he is a celebrity.

Jgrant on July 14, 2010 at 10:26 am

    Nobody has said that clinical depression causes hatred for any race or group.

    Clinical depression is a disease and it has the side effects that are distressing to all around them.

    Post partum depression in women has caused serious crimes and suicide.

    MENTAL ILLNESS is not an excuse it can be the reason WHY some people do horrid things to others.

    Alcoholism is a disease. Mel IS an alcoholic and Mel IS a sick man. He spouts hate for others too.

    That is because he HATES MEL too!

    Mel is on self-destruct mode.

    So I will pray for him just as I would for ANY human who is ill.

    And I am no liberal. Just a Christian.

    Sewsalot on July 14, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    Jon… no illness excuses one from right and wrong. Whether its alcohol or drugs. People need to quit blaming it on his father. He’s a grown man and made his own bed and needs to sleep in it. Mel’s issues are between him and G-d to deal with… if he ever gets a handle on his inner demons.

    And its an illustration the famous do fall hard. The head of Mel’s talent agency, a Jew – cut off ties with him. He wouldn’t do it before out of regard for his partner. Now things changed. Oh and what goes around, comes around.

    NormanF on July 16, 2010 at 2:27 am

Untreated depression can alter behavior.

Look it up.

Oscar on July 14, 2010 at 10:50 am

    Oscar: jgrant is correct.

    You’re defending him because he’s a celebrity.

    As goes Israel - so goes the World on July 14, 2010 at 12:16 pm

      Incorrect. Read my post on little wayne.

      Oscar on July 14, 2010 at 1:44 pm

The double standard is hilarious. When a black conservative defends a white conservative for making racist comments, white conservatives applaud him for “coming off the plantation”, “rejecting tribalism”, “rejecting victimization”, “rejecting political correctness/hypersensitivity” etc. But when a black liberal defends someone for making ANTI-SEMITIC comments, he gets trashed by the same conservatives.

And this is where the Rush Limbaugh/Glenn Beck thing comes in. Limbaugh and Beck can say anything they want about blacks and no conservative cares. Why? Because they defend Israel and never say anything anti-Semitic. It’s only the conservatives who bash Jews and Israel (or tolerate others who do) like Sean Hannity and Pat Buchanan that get criticized, and then THAT’S when their comments against blacks all of a sudden gets noticed.

Again, take Pat Buchanan. He was fully accepted within the conservative mainstream for decades so long as he was “only” a segregationist. It was only when his anti-Semitism went overboard that he became persona non-grata among conservatives. And Ann Coulter – who is a Pat Buchanan worshiper and wannabe (except that she is three times as vicious but only 1/3 as smart) – is embraced and beloved because she came along a couple of decades later and as a result learned to embrace Jews and Israel.

Look, people who hate both blacks and Jews are just being consistent. The people who embrace one while hating the other are hypocrites, and are probably masking their true feelings. Chances are if you hate Jews you also hate blacks and vice-versa. And if you are a black person who hates Jews (or whites), or a Jewish person who hates blacks, it is usually because you hate yourself.

If Mel Gibson wasn’t an anti-Semite, the very same people bashing him on this site would be praising him for simply telling politically incorrect truths about how blacks disproportionately commit crime, and you would be praising Whoopi Goldberg, claiming “See, Whoopi knows that Mel doesn’t hate all blacks, just black rapists!” and then cite the FBI stats showing that black men are 100 times more likely to rape white women than white men are to rape black women. And don’t say that you wouldn’t be, because I’ve read too many comments on FreeRepublic.com, Lucianne.com and the other haunts.

Gerald on July 14, 2010 at 12:53 pm

Hey Gerald,

I think emotions may be driving some of your points. I’ve been listening to Rush for a while, even saw him when he had his TV show, and he satirizes what the left and liberals say. Actually, he deciphers and defines what they’re trying to tell/sell people in their verbal masquerades, messages or political word plays. He calls them out and, to irk them, plays them like a fiddle. Limbaugh, to me, doesn’t come across as a racist, as many on the left try to paint him out to be. Beck: don’t really care about him. He’s lucky he came on board at the right time. Buchanan – never liked him. I will say he comes across a one of those having problems with other’s color (why does MSNBC have him?). Hannity’s alright (can be kind of whinny). Coulter is cool. On Coulter, I haven’t read or heard her say anything dim witted or wild. In fact, the times I’ve seen her, on the tele, she defends her positions very well. Some of these pundits may reflect, positive, similar or questionable ideologies or thoughts people may, themselves, have. Maybe that’s when they feel they can relate or connect.

Nevertheless, on the Gibson thing, wrong is wrong. Mel is wrong, the left is wrong and hatred is wrong. With all his money and influence and connections Mel had a golden opportunity to correct or drive out his demons. Those that, unfortunately, it seems his old man passed on to him. He didn’t. Now he has to answer for it. If anyone tries to defend him, yeah, they are wrong. Whether they’re on the left or right or whatever. What’s in your heart – it’s in your heart. Right, wrong, good or evil. What you were taught, you will live.

The best thing, as Debbie says, is: think for yourself.

The Sarge on July 14, 2010 at 1:48 pm

Debbie – “This video contains content from ABC Soapnet, who has blocked it in your country (Israel) on copyright grounds”…now what’s that all about? Copyright, I don’t even think that dumb show plays here (although we do get Oprah and Dr. Phil)but I personally don’t know anyone here who watches these two shows even though it is broadcast in English.) We all know how those 2 phonies feel about us, but now what’s the deal with “The View?” Whoopie as the “Mad Hatter” can be very entertaining. If anyone would take her seriously, I’d recommend their seeing shrink and FAST! I did get to hear Mel’s series of “rants” and he’s not just your average anti-Semite, and bigot, he sounds like someone with full-fledged NPD and Borderline Personality Disorder. I wonder how long they were together before he started to “erupt” because surely no normal woman would have a baby with a man that abuses her in such a way…oh wait, forgot, Hollywood, everyone is really out for themselves, she for her career, him ’cause he’s an old shit and needs to feed his ego with a young trophy wife.

Debbie Washington Hts. Girl on July 14, 2010 at 9:36 pm

By the way, I was able to get around this whole nonsense of ABC blocking the video, as it is uploaded by several sources however, if Whoopi can claim that “people can say things when they are drunk” which is usually the truth because booze acts like a truth drug, then Whoopie must be on crack because she sounds like she’s tripping. Maybe, Joy’s “Worldview” is changing a bit, don’t you think, perhaps her Jewish boyfriend has finally talked some sense into her? This makes for really stupid “Hollywood” entertainment, yet it is a nice break from our news which is about Gaza Flotilla Terrorist Stunts, random attacks on innocent Israeli drivers by out-of-control Arabs on our highways, and attempted lynchings of Israeli citizens right here in our capital of Jerusalem. Thanks for all the great articles Debbie!

Debbie Washington Hts. Girl on July 14, 2010 at 9:52 pm

1) I’m still mystified about calling Gibson a draft dodger. His father Hutton (not Mel) made the decision to move to Australia (I believe Mel’s mother was an Aussie). And Australians also served in Vietnam. The war was winding down when Mel hit 18.

2) Now there are reports out from audio forensic experts saying they doubt the authenticity of the recordings, saying they may have been doctored/spliced. His ex says she had nothing to do with the release of the recordings, which sounds eerily familiar to Kim Basinger when Alec Baldwin’s recordings were released.
All in all, I find this whole thing disturbing, especially since so many have adopted a “guilty until proven guilty” attitude. If he’s guilty, fine, but what IF this audio was altered?

Richard on July 15, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    I think there is something really fishy about this Oxana woman too.

    Sometimes I wonder if she is mixed up in the Ukrainian mob a mob that is reputed to be just as evil as the Russian or Albanian mobs.

    Look Mel was a messed up crazed drunk when she took up with him.

    She KNEW that and so WHY $$$$$ did she stay with him?

    BIG MONEY!!

    Sewsalot on July 15, 2010 at 2:27 pm

      One wonders what she saw in him in the first place.

      It goes to show the old true and trite saying about love being blind, then you can be blind about your partner’s character. It happened in this relationship, it has happened to other relationship in the past and it will no doubt happen to relationships in the future.

      NormanF on July 16, 2010 at 2:40 am

Correction: Gibson’s paternal grandmother was from Australia.

Richard on July 15, 2010 at 1:17 pm

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