August 13, 2010, - 8:09 pm

Bronx Prez to USA: No Mosque & State Separation

By Debbie Schlussel

I’ve said it repeatedly over the years, and I’ll say it again.  There is no separation between mosque and state, only between church and state and synagogue and state.  To me, that’s of far more concern than a mosque near Ground Zero.

And if there was any question, New York City’s Borough of the Bronx and its Borough President, Ruben Diaz, Jr. wants you to know, the question has been answered . . . with tax dollars subsidizing Ramadan Iftar dinners and their courthouse location (who said justice is blind?  It’s now Muslim with 20/20 vision).

Also note that the Bronx Tourism Council is helping sponsor this event.  So I guess they want more Muslims, including legal and illegal aliens to come on over.

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this from our fearless leader:

President Obama will host an iftar — the special evening meal observed during Ramadan — on Friday night in the White House dining room.

Celebrations like iftar dinners “remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings,” Obama wrote in a statement Wednesday.

“Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality … a reminder that Islam has always been part of America and that American Muslims have made extraordinary contributions to our country.”

When will the lies end?

It had to be an important dinner, he postponed his Florida vacation for it.

ender on August 13, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    Well he is a Muslima, so they always come first!
    “I will stand with my muslim brothers and sisters….” His quote.

    perception of truth on August 14, 2010 at 12:16 pm

“Our capacity to show not merely tolerance, but respect to those who are different from us — a way of life that stands in stark contrast to the nihilism of those who attacked us on that September morning, and who continue to plot against us today,”

So, in other words…”We’ll respect/tolerate you barbaric churls, even though your way of life sucks hard and you continue to get all up in our Western faces an’ be killin’ us an’ s**t”.

Hey, Prez! Nice veiled insult, I like it!

Graty Slapchop on August 13, 2010 at 9:35 pm

I wonder if when Israel attacks Iran Obama will forcefully state that Israel has the absolute right to defend herself.. somehow I doubt it. Myself, I hope someone finds his thesis, the LA times dinner video they held back, and tape of his anti American protests, because we know he took part in them. How disturbing this all is.

shaon on August 13, 2010 at 9:36 pm

Why would Ruben Diaz, whose name sounds hispanic, want to help out the muslims? Aren’t most hispanics Catholic?

I guess the muslims are getting to the hispanics in jail like they are getting to the blacks in jail and are converting them to islam.

Jarhead on August 13, 2010 at 11:37 pm

Well well well, It’s Rama-damn’a’ding-dong time again, wooohooo!!!!! “Break-the-Fest” eh? Make mine BACON and eggs please!
Wait, what…no pork!??? C’mon! our politicians bend over backwards for them, so why can’t they do it for me?

Oh wait, scratch that…it’s just: ‘our politicians bend over for them’ period…
…ugh…nevermind…

theShadow on August 13, 2010 at 11:48 pm

Let us see. Bloombat and Obama welcome the mosque at ground zero of the muslim attack on America. They have delayed the reconstruction of the Christian church that famously housed and fed hundreds of first responders and rendered aid to the fleeing masses. And now we celebrate the terrorists soul brothers.
Hmmmm. Just like a Democrat.

pat on August 14, 2010 at 1:42 am

Hello Debbie, I hope its ok to drop a shameless plug for my candidate into your comments. Mike Stopa is a conservative candidate for congress in the 3rd district of Massachusetts. He has a PhD in Physics and is currently at Harvard where he specializes in nano technology.

Mike states that he would not want a Mosque in his neighborhood.
http://www.stopaforusrep.com/blog/95-comments-on-mosques

Mike takes a question on Sharia Law, discusses the Roxbury Mosque.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOm8rMg0Md8

And this segment from an appearence on Hannity where the ground zero mosque was discussed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDslaVF4DI

–Shredder
–Personal friend of the candidate.

Shredderofmass on August 14, 2010 at 7:19 am

Testing – not using home computer

commonsense on August 14, 2010 at 8:48 am

Portions of the Bronx now have a significant Muslim presence. On Pelham Parkway, there is a major hospital, Jacobi/Albert Einstein, and Muslims are present in numbers, both as staffers and as patients. They are conspicuous by their attire; all the women wear hijabs, some even full burkhas. Many of the men wear distinctive Muslim garb as well. All small grocery stores and most gas stations in that part of the borough are owned or at least managed by Muslims – there’s no avoiding buying gas from them if one cannot drive to another location to purchase fuel. Near the hospital, on Lydig Avenue and vicinity, increasing numbers of Muslim women, some wearing burkhas or niqabs, many children in tow, are seen shopping. In one larger but still independently owned grocery store, a large, cheap tapestry was seen hanging on a wall showing the Temple Mount, with the two mosques, and an Arabic inscription below them – I can well imagine the message. There are still Jews in the area but they are largely very elderly and should be considered essentially a remnant population – the area used to be ninety per cent Jewish until about twenty years ago. The synagogue where I was bar mitzvahed still stands, but there are few congregants left and I fear its days are numbered. I was informed that the building has been vandalized repeatedly, and the chief suspects were, of course, Muslims. (Around the corner, a private home was converted into a mosque – I don’t know if this was legal or not, but the mosque is the only non-residential property on this block. Not too far away, I discovered a second, larger Islamic center, which is used as a madrassah. On its front door was (this was about three years ago, and I haven’t been back to the area since) a placard decrying the plight of the Palestinian Muslims. Above the front door, a banner read something along the lines of “Christians – see what the Quran says about Jesus,” so obviously the place also serves as a center for da’wa. Not far from there, I came upon a halal slaughterhouse, advertising the availability of rabbits, goats, etc.
So certain sections of the Bronx are going the way of Dearborn.

commonsense on August 14, 2010 at 9:08 am

What a slap in America’s face all the way around.

Paul on August 14, 2010 at 9:32 am

Diaz is a Pentecostal minister and a Democrat.

Genipero on August 14, 2010 at 9:43 am

The only way to defeat a Cancer has always been through radiation.

perception of truth on August 14, 2010 at 12:21 pm

Hello reality check, Muslims were victims of 911 too. Muslims worked at the WTC when the planes hit and MUSLIMS DIED FROM THE ATTACKS TOO!

They are as much victims as anyone else. AS a matter of fact according to the statistics 95% of al qaedas victims have been MUSLIM!

Stop spreading hate, Islam has been in america for 500 years. 19 hijackers on one day DO NOT REPRESENT THE 1.5 Billion in the world.

There are over 9 million muslims in america and THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE ATTACK IN 9 YEARS. What does that tell you MUSLIMS ARE 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999% peaceful.

The numbers don’t lie but you still do!

George W on August 14, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    George W (aka Ahmed) sez:

    “Hello reality check . . . MUSLIMS DIED FROM THE ATTACKS TOO!”

    Yes, a few Muslims did die, as martyrs. True, they may not have been willing, but again they may have been. So what? The overwhelming number of Muslims (so far as we can determine) were happy about 9/11.

    “Stop spreading hate, Islam has been in america for 500 years.”

    Huh? What are you talking about? “America” has not existed for 500 years. Could you possibly be THAT ignorant? Anyway, there where virtually no Muslims in the US until the 20th century.

    “19 hijackers on one day DO NOT REPRESENT THE 1.5 Billion in the world.”

    That depends on what you mean by “represent.” Their actions, based on a proper understanding of Islam, certainly do represent the totalitarian system of Islam. True, most Muslims lack the ability and perhaps motivation to be hijackers, but they do what they can in the jihad.

    “There are over 9 million muslims in america ”

    A lie.

    “and THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE ATTACK IN 9 YEARS. What does that tell you . .. ”

    As a Muslim, you take joy in lying to the kuffar, but really, what’s the point of lying in such a transparent way. It’s insulting. There have been numerous Muslim attacks in the past 9 years, both in the US and elsewhere. Most recently, a Fakestinian, racist as good Muslims are, was stabbing and murdering people in three states of the US.

    “The numbers don’t lie but you still do!”

    Thats Ahmed, but you are not only a liar, but a really bad one. It is is manifestly rational to discriminate against Islam, as it is a totalitarian political system and cult. Individual Muslims, once they convert away from Islam–if they do it sincerely–become human. Good Muslims, however, are just animals.

    skzion on August 14, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    Who the hell are you trying to kid. The last PEW Poll had muslims as !.5 million, with black muslims actually decreasing in numbers. And these were not just 19 guys. These guys were supported by a terrorist organization working with the Afghan government, receiving medical aid and training from Iraq, and celebrated through out the world by muslims and Imans.

    pat on August 14, 2010 at 6:53 pm

    You really do need to work on your dawa. Shall we bring up the little matters of Fort Hood, the Diaper Bomber, as well the Time Square bombing attempt? All of these lovely things have happened just over the past year. I could mention others, but you should try chewing on those for awhile. Finally, thinking before you post is really a must. But, you too might be the result of too many first cousin marriages.

    worry01 on August 16, 2010 at 2:11 am

The terorrists have won.

Phineas on August 14, 2010 at 1:02 pm

KING HUSSEIN OBAMA’s seal of approval for the mosque near Ground Zero has touched the last nerve of many Americans. He continues to show his arrogance toward the people he is supposed to represent. As 75% of Americans object to the site of this mosque he continues to poke the eye of Americans. He is so politically out of touch or just one arrogant POS. Now he elevated this debate to every congressional district and senate race. He is going to double down on stoopid. At least the New York governor has the sense to realize this mosque is a horrible idea.
Debbie I know you say this issue is grandstanding by many on the right. I agree for some it has become grandstanding. But right now we might need a little grandstanding for this alleged president has done some grandstanding on his own.

CaliforniaScreaming on August 14, 2010 at 2:57 pm

No, Not Yet !!!!

HK on August 14, 2010 at 3:28 pm

Wow. At least at this site peeps are not afraid to speak the truth about Islam. The new and not improved Hot Air had a thread on Obama’s support of the NYC Mosque and the real straight-shooters not only got nuked (and they are rare even in Conservative circles), but they closed down the tread. Wah!! What a bunch of wimps.

Pity, as the site is sucky now..and the posts are way down. The one shut down was above average in the average posts the threads are getting these days.

This is why we are in the trouble we are gross PCness has infected even peeps who should no better!!!

Skunky on August 14, 2010 at 3:34 pm

i was just srfing the net and i saw this site and waw
i’m just a high school student and i don’t know that much about what are you talking about but i was seriously chocked to witness this hate on islam and muslims yes some people did bombed and killed many americans (9/11) and that is just a shame and i remember my father turned to my mother and told her that this shall define the religion of islam for many long years and i can assure you that those terrorists who had done all those things know nothing about islam and it hurts me to hear that they actually say that the allah ordered them to do that in our quran.they know nothing about quran nor islam .

Farouq on August 14, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    Spamming, Farouq? You’ve already made this laughable comment under the “Comcast” story.

    Anyway, you’re not a teenager. Even if you were, you’re not human, so your age doesn’t matter. If you want to be treated like a human being, convert (sincerely) to a real religion.

    skzion on August 15, 2010 at 2:25 pm

Debbie let’s find out more WHY Obama & others are
pretending to be more friendly with certain groups
& if we find out truth & facts, will be THE SCANDAL
that the world will know & react !

Jacqueline Hanna Youssef on August 14, 2010 at 7:54 pm

The proposed Islamic “center” is simply Islam planting their “flag” as close to the Twin Towers as possible in exultation of victory. It is almost a reverse flag planted at Iwo Jima. America beware – you elected a closet muslim as president and America is now reaping the whirlwind.

Sam on August 14, 2010 at 8:48 pm

Okay, you are all missing the big picture. Why is there a Bronx Tourism Office? Who the hell would want to visit that dump of a borough??

Just kidding. Still hate the Muslims, and I believe that the separation of Mosque and State no longer seems to exist.

Jgrant on August 14, 2010 at 11:14 pm

    Jgrant, you’re absolutely right, the Bronx is a dump, it’s one big-ass ghetto. i used to be an intern in the Bronx Supreme Courthouse, and then used to work as a lawyer in an office across the street from it and in the Bronx housing court. it’s a huge piece of shit of a land mass, and why our tax dollars need to fund a “tourism office” just leaves me speechless. finally, muslims are evil, liberals are suckers and i hope the moronic white people who voted for B. Hussein in 2008 come to their senses in 2012 and vote for ANYONE but him. i’d take dennis kucinich ovr Hussein.

    nikki on August 15, 2010 at 7:23 am

      The Bronx includes Riverdale, Ft. Tryon Park, Inwood Park which contains a totally wild and natural wooded area and the Jumal Massion, build during the Colonial period. It is home to Fordham University. The Bronx was the area where the Dutch had their early farms and don’t forget Van Cortland park, the Zoo and Botanical Gardens.
      Parts of it are blighted but the idea of bringing tourists to the truly noteworthy areas is designed to improve that situation.

      mk750 on August 16, 2010 at 10:49 am

btw, speaking of illegals (Muslim terrorist illegals) entering the United States, CNN aired an exclusive report about that…It was jaw dropping…unbelievable…and, it’s all being done thanks to American taxpayer dollars! (that’s getting Muslim terrorists into the United States, illegally.) I’ll send you the transcript.

J.S. on August 15, 2010 at 10:42 am

Whats up with all this Jew hatred of Muslims? Everywhere I look, major Jewish figures are stoking hatred against Muslims in the United States. Debbie may have been the first, but she is not the only one, you also have Pamela Geller, Krauthammer, Foxman and wanna-be Jews like Sarah Palin spreading fear mongering. When will someone talk about this?

Steve on August 15, 2010 at 10:46 am

    Steve (Mohammad), why are you trying to deceive us regarding your religion? I’ve gotta laugh that you lump Debbie with people like Foxman.

    Hatred of Islam and its practitioners is virtuous because Islam is a wicked, racist, totalitarian cult. Steve, what’s it like being a Nazi in the 21st century?

    skzion on August 15, 2010 at 2:29 pm

Seems that Debbie has already covered this particular Somali smuggling ring (thanks to ICE putting up the cash for a bozo to get Somali terrorists into the US) — 6 months ago, back in February, Debbie reported this…(Only took CNN 6 months to file a similar report…)…

J.S. on August 15, 2010 at 10:56 am

In Canada there’s no separation of church/mosque state. Thus Canada’s federal government can assist in building Muslim “cultural centers”, etc, etc. (The problem here in Canada, imo, is that some groups are apparently “above the law” — there’s an ongoing double standard — so, if you’re a Muslim immigrant and you strangle your daughter, give the judge a sob story, you won’t spend a day in jail; you’ll get an automatic “get out of jail free” card…and the double standards go on and on..)

J.S. on August 15, 2010 at 11:26 am

Should also add, just as the above-article about the Bronx President using taxpayers monies to fund a Muslim dinner illustrates, it’s not just “a problem” with Muslims — it’s as much “a problem” of the majority culture (ie, non-Muslims) caving in to demands, or kow-towing, when they should be standing up for age-old principles enshrined in the US Constitution, such as separation of mosque and state. Instead of standing up, they cave. (Frankly, I don’t fully understand this process…but I wish it would stop.)

J.S. on August 15, 2010 at 11:41 am

George W – How about separation of mosque and the rest of humanity? I bet terrorist attacks in the civilized world will go down some 99.999999999999999999999%

George, please do something for me. Check out this website and report back to me about how islam is the religion of peace.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

- somewhere in Indonesia a mosque is missing its idiot
(Barry Soetoro)

Jarhead on August 15, 2010 at 8:25 pm

Hey, pretty much apropos of nothing, remember that California blonde bimbo who decided to become Muslim and was featured on television news shows? I think her family was Catholic, and this country having raised an entire generatin of idiot parents, mom and dad were supportive of her brave decision. I wonder whatever happened to her?

gmartinz on August 16, 2010 at 2:05 am

Obama 20/20 vision not focused on the 9/11 victims. His 20/20 focused on sharia law.

From following article; Obama bill passes giving . . .
billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to countries and entities that support sharia law and/or harbor, hide and support those who want to destroy the U.S. and our allies.

Montana Miles on August 16, 2010 at 2:28 pm

Obama 20/20 vision focused on 9/11 victims; taking away the rights of the 9/11 victims so they can’t sue those that financed the 9/11 attack. . .

On May 29 – just five days before President Obama made his first state visit to Saudi Arabia – Solicitor General Elena Kagan filed a brief arguing that it would be “unwarranted” for the Supreme Court to hear cases brought by the families against five of Saudi King Abdullah’s closest relatives for financing the attacks. The group, named the 9/11 Families United to Bankrupt Terrorism, charges that “five Saudi princes knowingly and intentionally provided financial support to al Qaeda waging war on America.”

Read more at: http://www.investigativeproject.org/1059/9-11-families-obama-favors-saudi-terror

Montana Miles on August 16, 2010 at 2:32 pm

Apparently only REAL religons need to be separated from the State.

Farmerjohn on August 16, 2010 at 2:35 pm

Obama 20/20 vision focused on agreeing with Hamas a terrorist group? The Imam that proposes to build the Ground Zero mosque will not call Hamas a terrorist group even though the United States defines it as such.

Now Hamas states the United States of America must build the Ground Zero mosque . . .

The United States calls Hamas a terrorist group.
Read following article, view link . . .
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/hamas_nod_for_gz_mosque_cSohH9eha8sNZMTDz0VVPI

Montana Miles on August 16, 2010 at 2:39 pm

The 9/11 mosque that Hamas terrorists used to plot their attack against the Twin Towers and the Greek Orthodox Church as well as Other Structures including the People of the U.S.

The 9/11 attackers as they are associated with the terrorist group Hamas; the proposed Ground Zero Imam will not even call them terrorists!

The 20/20 vision on it is . . .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-10911542

Montana Miles on August 16, 2010 at 2:47 pm

DEARBORN, Mich. — A Michigan high school football team is holding preseason practices in the middle of the night to help its Muslim players practice both faith and football.

The predominantly Muslim squad from Dearborn says the nocturnal regimen is a way for players to eat and drink while observing the holy month of daytime fasting known as Ramadan that started last week.

ward on August 17, 2010 at 7:18 am

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