August 30, 2010, - 2:07 pm

“Death Wish”: The Rabbi, The Palestinians, Israel & the “Peace” (of Paper) Process

By Debbie Schlussel

It seems the State Department, the Jerusalem Post, Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, and the not-so-fond-of-Israel/Jewish-self-hater Matt Drudge are all up in arms about the “death wish” made by former Sephardic Chief Rabbi of Israel, Ovadia Yosef against Holocaust-denying terrorist and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas.

Former Israeli Chief Rabbi Ovadia Yosef . . .

. . . Is 100% Right To Wish Palestinian Terrorist Mass Murderer Mahmoud Abbas’ Long Overdue Death.

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But you need to place his comments in perspective and know a little about the guy and about Mr. Abbas.

To those of you who aren’t Jewish or are Jewish but don’t know better, there are two groups of Jews, Ashkenazic–largely from Europe (Ashkenaz is Germany)–and Sephardic–largely from Spain, the “Oriental” countries, the Middle East and Africa, and Asia (Spharad is Spain, and some of the Jews from these areas are more accurately described as “Mizrahi Jews” or “Eastern Jews”).  There are aberrations, as I have friends of Dutch descent who are Sephardic Jews, etc. I am an Ashkenazic Jew, though I have Sephardic relatives and many, many Sephardic friends.  The rabbi of my synagogue is Sephardi.  Though we observe the same holidays and are largely the same, we have slightly different religious observances and customs and sometimes follow different authorities, which is why Israel has two chief rabbis–one from each group.  The majority of Israelis are Sephardic.

Rabbi Yosef, though a great and holy man and tremendous Jewish scholar, is not someone I admire that much on Mid-East policy because he is actually one of the peaceniks–one of those who urged endless, destructive negotiations with the Palestinians and whose views and edicts led Israel to the precipitous point at which the country now finds herself.  And he traded on the peace process in order to gain power.  Rabbi Yosef issued a decree claiming the Jewish Torah (Jewish bible and law) allowed the exchange of land for peace and okayed the Camp David Peace Accords, which started Israel down a never-ending slippery slope of the self-amputative death march.  Later, he instructed Shas–a powerful Israeli religious party over which he holds sway–to join then Prime Minister Yitzchak Rabin’s coalition and supported the first Oslo negotiations and resulting conditions.  We know what a disaster that was.  So, now, the situation Israel is currently in is a good part his fault.  He has tremendous power over Israel’s religious movement.

Then, there is President Abbas–against whom he made the comments.  Sorry, but Abbas is a mass murderer.  As Yasser Arafat’s right-hand man, documents show Abbas was the paymaster of the Munich Olympic terrorists and one of the planners of the massacre of the Israeli Olympic Team in 1972.  He wrote his Ph.D. thesis in support of Holocaust denial.  There is a reason he has an Islamic terrorist alias of “Abu Mazen: Because he’s an Islamic terrorist.

THIS Is Mahmoud Abbas’ Handy Work. YES, He Deserves Death.

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If it is a crime–if it is even the slightest outrage–to wish this man dead, then count me as a criminal and an outrageous party.  The man is a mass murderer who has been elevated, largely by America–starting with George W. Bush and Condi Clueless a/k/a Condoleeza Rice–and its partners in the mainstream Jewish community as “our moderate terrorist.”  He’s never done a day in prison for his crimes for which he should be executed.  And that’s not to mention that Abbas has no popular support and would be trounced by HAMAS in any Palestinian Authority election, so any “negotiations” and treaties in which he’s involved are worthless, period.

No-one should be distancing themselves from these comments by Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, because finally, he’s spot on.  Abbas should have been tortured to death long ago.  Sadly, Rabbi Yosef’s own decrees are what helped set the stage for Abbas’ tenure in “leadership” in the first place.

Yes, Rabbi Yosef–in this instance–is 100% correct.  Mahmoud Abbas deserves death.  And it’s tragic that he’s been living and breathing on this earth for so many years, while his many victims were long ago worm entrails.

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26 Responses

I heard of his statement yesterday and said “right on”! Count me in!

Skunky on August 30, 2010 at 2:23 pm

I couldn’t agree more. I love Rav Ovadia and am a SHAS supporter.

mk750 on August 30, 2010 at 2:43 pm

peacenik?

“The six million Jews who perished in the Nazi Holocaust died because they were reincarnations of sinners in previous generations.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/rabbi-says-holocaust-victims-were-reincarnations-of-sinners-711547.html

pam, you are a disgusting human being. you shame your religion, your race, and all of humanity. this man has argued that the genocide of jews was justified and the genocide of palestinians would be, too. you are a lunatic. and probably too cowardly to NOT delete this comment.

1399 on August 30, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    who;s pam?

    howardroark43 on August 30, 2010 at 5:50 pm

oh, and deb darling, he didn’t just say abbas. he said all palestinians. what a cute little game you play, my pampered little princess.

1399 on August 30, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    i think you meant, “pam darling sugarlumpkins”…

    howardroark43 on August 30, 2010 at 5:52 pm

I agree, without Yosef’s “blessing” (and the vote of Israel’s Arab parties), the Oslo Accords would not have gotten the 61 (of 120) votes needed to pass. We could have been spared a lot of grief.

The hypocrisy of the “outrage” his comments have generated is that there’s hardly a word of reaction to what comes out of Palestinian mosques every Friday, or out of the Palestinian controlled media almost daily. And Yosef never even hinted that we mortals should execute judgment on the Palestinians. Rather, it was little different than the “Pour out your wrath” statement many of us read at the end of our Passover seders regarding the enemies of the Jewish people.

The problem I have with Yosef is his abandonment of the scholastic standards that Sephardi Jews once followed in favor of a “study of Torah is our occupation” orientation, not to mention the constant sucking up for money from the Israeli treasury. (Full disclosure: my family origins are Sephardi/Mizrahi.) One corrective though. It’s the majority of Israeli JEWS that are Sephardic, which makes Helen Thomas’ suggestion that Israelis “go back” to Poland and Germany laughable.

Raymond in DC on August 30, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    Raymond, kindly give Rav Ovadia proper respect even if you disagree with his politics. We, particularly we Sephardim, don’t refer to a rabbi merely as “Yosef” and one who is a giant in Torah deserves the title Rabbi or Rav. Rav Ovadia is a realist. I also am upset when I see our Sephardic brothers donning black suits and ugly gangsta hats but if they don’t we will suffer the fate of the Ethiopians and be forced into Ashkenazi conversions and told over and over that we are not “real” Jews. The generation of Sephardim that has grown up here really don’t have much tradition to fall back on because that tradition was stolen from us in the Aliyahs from Morocco and Yemen, pogroms in which Sephardi babies were stolen and given to Ashkenazi families and the parents told they were sick and died. Pogroms in which So Called Jews did medical experiments on other Jews because we were “brown.” I live in a very Sephardi small city. The Anglo (ashkenazi) marauders are trying to come in here because the city “needs agressive and motivated” people to make it prosper. Um, NO! This is one of the Four Holy Cities and we are happy here. People are warm, open, kindly and neighborly. We have enough material prosperity to satisfy. You don’t see beggars on the streets as you do in Jerusalem because everyone takes care of their neighbor. I can leave my door unlocked during the day if I’m home. There is a generation of Sephardim that is regaining it’s pride. One problem is that the great Kabbalists like Rav Kaduri are dying off but Hashem has it in control and will keep a few in every generation. Rav Ovadia is not one of them and that is to his disadvantage spiritually but there are others who understand. Watch for Rav Eli Yishai to emerge. He’s still pretty young and he seems to have some spiritual backbone. As Interior Minister, he’s been doing the right things.

    mk750 on August 31, 2010 at 3:37 am

Debbie,

This is one article you should not have written. Rav Ovadia Yosef is an utter and unmitigated fool. His profound knowledge of the Torah does not translate as anything approaching intelligence or even a grain of humanity. Consider this bit of brilliance that issued from the cesspool that is his mind – A man who walks with a woman on either side of him is to be regarded as a donkey. He could fill a tome with similar idiocies. His son is the apple that didn’t fall far from the tree. Just a week ago he said that any Jew who turns to the civil courts (as opposed to the religious courts) regardless of the issues, should be forbidden from attending prayer in a synagogue or even counted in a “minyan.”

Arn on August 30, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    Obviously you are a self hating Jew with a gentile wife or you wouldn’t speak such stupidity. If you aren’t Jewish then change “Rav Ovadia” for the pope or any other leader who proclaims the doctrines of their religion from an Orthoodox perspective. Rav Ovadia is exactly right when speaking of what Torah says. News flash: because Islam is a corruption of Torah, there are similarities. Sharia law=bad for kaffirs but we Jews are FORBIDDEN from using secular courts IN ISRAEL. That is what he’s talking about. I know the similarity is upsetting but I didn’t write it. Ditto the hijab. I don’t have to cover my neck but I do have to cover my hair and NOT with someone else’s.
    Like it or not, Judaism is an Asian/Middle Eastern religion. The “Judaism” you know has been influenced by 2,000 years of living in the West, trying to blend in and keep a low profile to survive and the past 200 or so years have been greatly influenced by the “Enlightment.” You can believe what you want but in the end, when the Messiah comes, the Animal Sacrifice will be restored and everything will be as in the time of Moses. Hint: that means Middle Eastern with a RABBINIC court that will impose the death penalty via: stoning, burning and garroting for violations of Torah and those are real penalties not metaphors for a monetary fine. Torah specifically forbids substituting money for capital punishment. Anyone who doesn’t come to worship HIM will be cut off. Draconian, um, yeah so if you don’t like it find another “peaceful” religion but don’t criticize something you don’t understand.

    mk750 on August 31, 2010 at 3:50 am

Yosef is only saying what many people already think – that these muslim palestinians should be removed from Israel one way or another.

My personal preference is to let them kill each other (gotta love muslim on muslim violence), but they just aren’t doing it quick enough!!

Jarhead on August 30, 2010 at 4:12 pm

[DS:As Yasser Arafat’s right-hand man, documents show Abbas was the paymaster of the Munich Olympic terrorists and one of the planners of the massacre of the Israeli Olympic Team in 1972.]

What documents? As far as I know, one of the terrorists wrote in a journal that Abbas and/or Fatah funded the operation. Didn’t Arafat/Abbas deny any involvement with the massacre? Is there empirical evidence otherwise?

[He wrote his Ph.D. thesis in support of Holocaust denial.]

The title of his thesis was “The Other Side: The secret relations between Nazism and the leadership of the Zionist movement”. I’d like to read it to see if he offered any proof.

NB: It was reported in Sports Illustrated, and he admits to it. As for the title of his thesis, gee, no way that sounds like Holocaust denial, right–claiming the Jews were in cahoots with the Nazis? DS

Norman Blitzer on August 30, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    You have Israelis hobnobbing with someone who thinks the Holocaust didn’t exist and who has never met a terrorist of which he didn’t approve.

    And we’re told this is a man of peace?

    Yeah sure and 25 cents will buy me a gumball.

    Abu Bluff is anything but a willing peace partner and if he had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the talks, what good are they?

    They’re a waste of time. The other side doesn’t want peace but don’t tell that to people convinced the reason for its absence is its all the Jews’ fault!

    NormanF on August 30, 2010 at 8:38 pm

Norman Blitzer on August 30, 2010 at 4:16 pm

Bad, old NB. Shucking and jiving to re-arrange common sense as he always does because his whole identity would collapse like a toothless mouth w/out dentures because his whole being from top to bottom is based on him being a Libtard.

“Liberalism is a mental disorder”.

Skunky on August 30, 2010 at 5:10 pm

Debbie:

Quit calling him Netanyahu. His real name is Nothing yahoo, or Nothingyahu.

Jon Grant on August 30, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    Jon,

    Israel’s Prime Minister knows in his heart its a farce. But Israel can’t exactly say “no” to peace talks and all can we do is hope the Palestinians show they don’t want it.

    So what is going to happen on Wednesday? I bet it won’t be all sweetness, light and harmony and happily ever-aftering between Israel and the Palestinians.

    Stay tuned.

    NormanF on August 30, 2010 at 8:41 pm

      There’s a big, bad boy off the Southern Coast of the US called Earl right now and bad ol’ boy Earl has his sights firmly on Washington DC. There might be nothing left by next Wed. Watch for Obummer to get hit in the head by a flying something or other, lie in a brain dead state for 3 days and come back to life.

      mk750 on August 31, 2010 at 8:58 am

I knew nothing of Ovadia Yosef until yesterday, when his allegedly “genocidal” comments were reported by various news sources.
Today, in my local daily newspaper, a left-favoring rag that recently began carrying a weekly column by the repulsive self-hating Jew Amy Goodman, admirer of Chomsky, Zinn, and Norman Finkelstein, Yosef’s comments are reported as follows, courtesy of NewsCore:

“May all the nasty people who hate Israel, like Abu Mazen (Abbas), vanish from our world. May God strike them down with the plague along with all the nasty Palestinians who persecute Israel.”

These remarks are not genocidal at all. Yosef, despite being a political naif, is simply asking the Creator to strike down the enemies of Israel who threaten the Jewish people. He is not inciting Israeli Jews to attack Palestinian Arabs, unlike the imams throughout the Muslim world who, addressing their congregants via incediary, hate-filled Friday khutbas, foment indiscriminate violence against local non-Muslims for the simple reason that these local nonbelievers have repeatedly rejected Islam, and are therefore undeserving of life. Yosef, if one reads his words with a bit of objectivity, is not even branding all Palestinians as enemies of Israel. Certainly, Abbas and his cohorts are evil, and to call them such is hardly scandalous. As usual, the anti-Israel State Department reacted predictably, expressing outrage over relatively bland, what should be non-controversial remarks uttered by an old Jew, while never reacting to Abbas’s many remarks which reveal that he still intends to destroy Israel in stages, using negotiations as the basis for doing so.

commonsense on August 30, 2010 at 7:32 pm

Debbie this time you have gone too far.

The Shas leader advocated the death of not only against Abbas and his terrorists but against all Palestinians. I quote “God should strike them with a plague, them and these Palestinians.” If you read the Haaretz article you will understand that by “them” he means the terrorists (which is fine) BUT he added “and these Palestinians” meaning all the Palestinian people.
This is totally unacceptable and it is not different then the anti-semitic propaganda that swept Germany during the early days of the Third Reich.

D: Really, David? You know exactly whom he meant when he said “these Palestinians” as opposed to just “Palestinians”? Hmmm . . . where were you when the Muslims expelled ALL Jews from their countries? Sorry, but I fight fire with water. You fight it with paper. And that simply doesn’t work. Nor does naivete. This is war. People die. Maybe some day you will realize that Israel is at war. Until then, you are better left on the sidelines in the USO. But love the Jew/Israel-Nazi analogy which is stock and standard for the Islamic world. Thanks but no thanks for the lecture. I know history. You know apologism. DS

david on August 30, 2010 at 7:40 pm

Debbie is right.

Israelis are told to amputate their homeland for people who hate their guts and who would fillet them given the chance. And because Rabbi Yosef described the truth about them, he gets condemned by the See No Evil, Hear No Evil and Don’t Speak Against Evil Crowd.

Like our State Department which isn’t troubled at all by the Judeophobia mainstream in the Muslim World. About that it is all crickets.

I haven’t agreed with many of the policies Shas has advocated which has brought Israel to the precarious straits it now finds itself in but the Rabbi’s description of who the Palestinians actually are is spot-on!

We live in a world filled with fools and lacking in men of wisdom and understanding. And that is one thing guaranteed not to change in the foreseeable future.

NormanF on August 30, 2010 at 8:32 pm

Debbie,
Thank you.

Far too many Jews, even highly religious ones, are more than ready to throw the Rav under the bus in order to appear “tolerant” and “moderate.” The fact is, he is speaking the truth, and is being punished for it. Meanwhile, the Arab leaders say much more horrible things without even a mention in the press.

I would like to point our however, that although he played a major role is Oslo, he did something that no leader, sense has done, he admitted that he was wrong and asked forgiveness. While it might be cold comfort to the many victims, it is rare for a leader to openly ask for forgiveness like that.

Ilan on August 30, 2010 at 10:10 pm

This is much ado about nothing. It was a traditional Jewish prayer of the sort that appears all over the Old Testament. It is something that has no meaning apart from its religious context. And Israel is a Jewish theocracy (kinda sorta, a mix between a religious state and a secular democracy that was more secular in its early days but is now trending more religious for various reasons), Jewish prayers are going to be publicly offered during state affairs.

Most of the hubbub is due to the fact that most Americans are unaware that Israel doesn’t have separation of religion and state like we do, and most Europeans are unaware that Israel lacks the official hostility to religion (except Islam) that their own governments have.

That said, Debbie (and the Jerusalem Post) was playing politics when they refused to admit that this rabbi targeted all Palestinians, not just Abu Mazen. Still, even his targeting all Palestinians in this prayer has a different meaning in the religious and traditional context. In other words, “it’s a Jewish thing, you wouldn’t understand.” I am not necessarily an Israel supporter and I am certainly no Zionist, but the last thing that we need is for people to take something like this totally out of context to claim that Jews want to kill all the Palestinians.

Jarhead:

The Palestinians are never going to eradicate themselves. So, those of you who want the Palestinians out of Israel are going to have to start making some difficult choices.

Gerald on August 31, 2010 at 11:53 am

As I’ve heard it said “On a good day, Abbas’s power extends to the falafel stand on the corner outside his office.”

luagha on August 31, 2010 at 12:27 pm

Abbas and his minions along with others who hate us Jews will surely join allah in The Lake Of Fire. Israel will never die even though the enemy moves freely within and without. Someday soon an accounting must be made, from which there will be no escape.

OldMan7 on August 31, 2010 at 7:35 pm

“the not-so-fond-of-Israel/Jewish-self-hater Matt Drudge” I never got that sense from Matt Drudge. Do you have a link for your site where you talk about this more?

Maliki on September 1, 2010 at 2:46 pm

” There are aberrations, as I have friends of Dutch descent who are Sephardic Jews”

After the Spanish/Portuguese Inquisition, a great deal of the Sephardic Jews immigrated to the Netherlands, where they found a safe haven. Espinoza is one of the most famous Dutch Sephardic Jews. No aberrations here.

Denny on January 6, 2013 at 7:23 pm

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