October 6, 2010, - 2:01 pm

The Rutgers Gay Suicide & Laura Ingraham

By Debbie Schlussel

While I was away for the last of the Jewish holidays, last week, the major news story was the suicide of a gay Rutgers student who was outed by his roommate and the roommate’s friend when they secretly videotaped him having sex and posted it online.  The gay student, Tyler Clementi, a talented violinist, committed suicide.  While I oppose gay rights and gay marriage, I felt for this kid, whose privacy was invaded and whose roommate embarrassed him publicly for no legitimate reason.  What people do behind closed doors is their business, not mine, unless they are public figures and/or are hypocrites–not the case here.  (It’s liberals who stick their noses in people’s business, not conservatives.)  These people, Dhuran Ravi and Molly Wei, are despicable and have been charged with invasion of privacy (which is essentially a slap on the hand, but it’s pretty much all they can be charged with).  But the first person I thought of was Laura Ingraham.

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Death of Outrage: Laura Ingraham Shamelessly Outed Plenty of Tyler Clementis

You see, Laura Ingraham–who is idolized by so many ignorant conservatives–was the original Ravi and Wei.  Before the internet and Facebook, and cheap video cameras, Ingraham was the editor of the Dartmouth Review and took it upon herself to go to meetings of gay students, secretly tape them, and then out them to their parents, sending them the tapes.  Thank G-d that the internet and cheap video cameras weren’t around then, or she’d have likely done the same as Ravi and Wei.  She did the 1980s equivalent of it.  Ingraham was proud of these deeds, invading the privacy of these students who did nothing to her, and embarrassing them to the people closest to them–their families. Ingraham admitted she did this, after Jeffrey Hart, a conservative faculty member (and Nixon and Reagan speechwriter) who was the Dartmouth Review’s advisor, exposed this Ingraham “activity.”

Ingraham never apologized to these students.  And who knows if any of them committed suicide because of her actions?  Regardless, she’s as despicable as Ravi and Wei.  But, instead of facing justice and scorn, she was rewarded with law school, prestigious judicial clerkships, failed cable TV show after failed cable TV show, a syndicated national radio show, and the permanent guest hosting spot for Bill O’Reilly on FOX News Channel.  And, of course, she has the gushing praise of phonies like Michelle Fraudkin and many others, who don’t seem to care that she did the same thing as Dhuran Ravi and Molly Wei did to Tyler Clementi.

Later on in life, Ingraham wrote an op-ed piece in the Washington Post, writing about how her gay brother’s lover was dying of AIDS and she wants more tax-funded research money for AIDS–the mostly gay disease that gets the lions share of research dollars as opposed to cancers that affect far more people who didn’t choose to engage in gay sex or intravenous drug-using.  That was her “penance,” her “apology.”

Yup, that’s your “conservative” hero–Laura Ingraham, the original Dhuran Ravi and Molly Wei, who despicably outed gay students to their parents and never looked back.  (And that’s aside from some of her other absurd liberal leanings, like her crazy PETA-style animal rights BS and promotion of single motherhood.)  She’s laughing at you all the way to the bank.  Suckers.

So, how long until Ravi and Wei get radio shows and FOX News gigs?  If she can do it, why not them? The death of outrage is not the monopoly of liberals. Conservatives maintain their fair share. What Laura Ingraham did at Dartmouth is no different, no less unforgivable than what the Rutgers kids did to Tyler Clementi. Yet, there is no outrage for her and never has been any.

Yes, the scariest animal wears pants. And she’s also the scariest conservative, too.

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27 Responses

” I felt for this kid, whose privacy was invaded and whose roommate embarrassed him publicly for no legitimate reason.”

There’s a teaching in “Ethics of the Fathers”, a chapter of the Mishna. It states, “He who publicly embarrasses another (literally “whitens the face”), even if he has Torah and good deeds to his credit, has no portion in the world to come.” We’d all be better off if we refrained from humiliating our neighbors.

Raymond in DC on October 6, 2010 at 2:17 pm

Wow. I never knew this and it was very powerful. Back in the day, I prolly would not like what LI did as I was a Liberal. I’m a staunch Conservative now and although I oppose Gay Marriage, I know for years I have firmly believed that I don’t like ANYONE outing a gay person…I feel it is 100% their right to be out or not(although I do not like phonies who pretend they are straight, live that way and all the sudden come out as gay like it’s a hard thing to do the last 15 years-PUHLEEZE!) and really, it’ no one’s business. Gay peeps seem to do this to each other these days and I hate it.

Nevermind talking about humiliating people. I can’t stand that and I hope those two students pay dearly for what they did.

LI has a very abrasive nature. The way she treats the very funny Raymond Arroyo (supposedly her friend) makes me cringe sometimes. So sad to be that insecure with all she has.

I don’t agree with her single-motherhood thou’. I believe that abrasive nature is one of the reasons she never married.

Don’t know why she kisses the arse of that splotchy tool, Bill O’Reilly. He’s another winner. Loofah boy used to write about acting proper in his first three books, meanwhile, he was talking dirty and trying to loofah up his producer’s pontoons. Yeah, I have not forgotten, BOR…even though you want us to.

Skunky on October 6, 2010 at 2:44 pm

We can oppose homosexuality and gay marriage without being disrespectful of the individuals involved. What people do in private is between them and G-d.

And that’s a line none of us should cross.

NormanF on October 6, 2010 at 3:09 pm

If a gay person is not involved with pedophilia or bothering others sexually, they should be left alone. The students involved with this “prank” should be expelled and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. However, charging them with manslaughter would be going overboard. Harassment, taping without permission, and transmitting a pornographic image without consent over state lines should be enough to start with. This does not even cover the civil suit that the gay student’s family could pursue against the two perpetrators.

Worry01 on October 6, 2010 at 4:16 pm

Has the school expelled them?

ebayer on October 6, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    Good Question.

    Tanstaafl on October 7, 2010 at 12:28 pm

I have found that someone who is rabidly homophobic like LI was usually has a reason. The reason is that they are secretly homosexual themselves and hate that part of themselves and are fighting it.

I don’t know and it is none of my business, but LI has all of the signs of someone in the closet. It will not suprise me in the least if down the road she “comes out:.

jimmyPx on October 6, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Did it ever occur to you that most people find homosexuality extremely offensive, and that it is a capital offense under Judeo/Christian/and yes, Sharia law or Islamic law. Sexual libertarianism is not a good option because all of their perversions are coming out in the open.
    http://verydumbgovernment.blogspot.com/2012/05/sexual-libertarianism-is-simply-nuts.html

    Homosexuality is a plague upon the land, because it violates God’s law and the natural law. And the filth of it will spread to friends and family.

    Al Thompson on May 14, 2012 at 5:41 pm

I see it this way: AIDS is totally preventable, so no money for you. Your cure is to curb your behavior. That is THE cure for AIDS. Cancer is unpreventable, so money should go there.

Laura just wants to spend other people’s money by demanding that the re$earch dollar go to AIDS and not elsewhere. How BIG of her.

As goes on October 6, 2010 at 6:35 pm

What goes on behind closed doors is no one else’s business. I am moving towards being a Libertarian (not totally, though), and do not believe one’s sexual habits (aside from child molestation and bestiality) should ever enter into any discussion, be it employment, housing, etc.

On the other hand, no one should get preference for their sexual orientation, race, etc.

As for AIDS, cancer kills more in one month than aids kills in several years.

The simple use of a condom would end AIDS. Why should I pick up the tab for someone too stupid to use the right protection?

Jonathan Grant on October 6, 2010 at 7:38 pm

I agree gay people should be left alone (although I’d prefer that they not handle my food — if closely monitored it is OK for them to teach kids as long as they leave their lifestyles at the door and their military activity curbed so as to not undermine troop morale).

I also agree that AIDS and other diseases resulting from disgusting behavior are almost entirely preventable and should not gobble research dollars that would otherwise go to diseases that we really can’t control.

As most people know or should know, condoms do not provide 100% protection against venereal disease, one of many disservices caused by schools’ damaging our society by teaching about these kinds of things. The protection is not to engage in bizarre behavior.

There are many different types of cancer. Some of them strike regardless of people’s lifestyles, but others, such as lung cancer are associated in large part with various risk factors. Of course many of these types of cancer should get preference in research dollars.

Jeffrey Hart did the right thing by putting a stop to Ingraham’s childish and destructive activities, but I think that he never really understood conservatism, in spite of his many years at National Review. He endorsed Obama’s election in 2008. Just like other pseudo-conservatives who found reasons to support Clinton in 1992 or Obama in 2008, such a single action is such a betrayal of conservative values as to show they never really understood conservatism or the opportunistic nature of liberalism.

Little Al on October 6, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    I think a big point here is being missed. Ms. Ingraham is a hypocrite because she herself is most likely gay. she has a number of adopte children but refuses to date, marry or know men over the years. 3 kids and still no father. she does not want her children to have a dad in their lives. And she says she is conservative? She has a gay brother, and once on her show a month ago (January 2014) she said she has plenty of gay friends. Fine, okay. But then she turns around and promotes Catholocism and christian conservatism. Its all bullcrap. its a game that all talk show radio people do. None of them are sincere. I wish somebody would take on Ann Coulter (another hypocrite) and Ms. Ingraham and confront them with the truth about their personal lives and tell them to stop judging others for what they are doing in their private lives!

    luke yznaga on February 28, 2014 at 5:51 pm

Condoms work pretty darn well. As to child molestation, statistically speaking, the heterosexual population is a greater threat than an out of the closet gay, although I once had a gay teacher make subtle overtures. Not pleasant. On the other hand, I once had a female chemistry TA make overtures (if she was pretty and single, I would been tempted, but she was ugly and married).

The point is, what someone does behind closed doors is no one’s business, and I do not want anyone else making it my business, gay or straight. Keep it covered or zipped up until you are home, and don’t invade someone’s privacy.

Jonathan Grant on October 6, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    Statistically heteros are more apt to molest children? Well if you are talking pure numbers, yes…gays represent a mere 2% or so of the population, but gays are responsible for more than 2% of child molestations. Some studies have them 10 times more likely to molest children.

    Richard Anderson on October 9, 2010 at 1:48 pm

JG, please check your facts. It is a disservice to any readers of this site to promote the belief that condoms provide reliable protection against venereal disease, up to and including AIDS.

Little Al on October 6, 2010 at 8:52 pm

Thanks for the info on Ms.Ingraham. I’m one of those conservatives who can’t stand the woman – for many reasons. You gave me another to add to my list. She’s a wacko who will probably turn into a liberal in the not to distant future. She’ll most likely do this when she doesn’t get enough attention and or credit from conservatives. She’s a spiteful woman with an over-inflated sense of herself.

By the way, Ms. Ingraham also said that the ground zero mosque was a good idea.

P: Laura Ingraham won’t “turn into” a liberal. She already is one. She’s for animal rights, gay rights, more govt funding for AIDS (it doesn’t get enough?), single motherhood, supported Bono and his dumb forgiving of the debt to terrorist countries like Sudan, says pandering things about Islam and Muslims, and her best friend is David Brock of Media Matters who wrote in his book that she admits she’s a liberal but pretends to be a conservative to make money. And, hey, it’s working. DS

pete on October 7, 2010 at 12:33 am

To secretly videotape someone making love is vile behavior, REGARDLESS OF THE SEX OR THE SEXUAL ORIENTATION OF THOSE INVOLVED!!!!Posting such a tape on the Internet is the behavior of a person with a sick mind.

Miranda Rose Smith on October 7, 2010 at 4:25 am

I don’t know the circumstances involving LI and I’m not trying to defend her, but I have to disagree here. There is a distinction to be made between being a peeping-tom and recording a group meeting, say a KKK meeting, to uncover a conspiracy or true intentions. Would you be for taping what goes on in a mosque? I would. There is an expectation of privacy for places like, the home, the bathroom, the locker room, the changing room, etc… Underground group meetings, to me, are fair game.

Rick on October 7, 2010 at 9:24 am

I have known many people in the LGBTQ (that’s lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgendered and queer) community. They are no different from heteroes. I may disagree with them on gay marriage (a civil or common law union can take care of that), but why deny them the right to serve in our armed services.

(Here in Canada, our “Don’t ask, don’t tell” goes like this…

“Say… are you gay?”
“Yes I am.”
“What-ev. Just don’t make any comments about my boots, eh?”

If these 2 Rutgers scamps were to pull that kind of stunt here in the Great White North, they might wind up being taught a brand new definition of “gay bashing” – they being the ones bashed by gays!

Sad. Pathetic. And my sympathies to the kid’s families and friends.

The "Reverend" Jacques on October 7, 2010 at 12:10 pm

Yes Ms. LI is quite something isn’t she?!?! It is disturbing to hear this story about her; furthermore, her single motherhood shtick has totally undermined my respect for her walk as a practicing Catholic and good conservative woman. Hmmmmm! The sum total of these attributes truly make this woman quite a character. And yet she is in the thick of all things media-conservative bent. It is however absolutely unacceptable that she would do such a thing the same as what happened with this young violinist.

FINALLY, my take on all of this sadness is that we all keep our sexuality to ourselves — and respect each other — period. I daresay that the homosexuality issue is overblown — and the classier thing to do is please just keep your sexuality to yourself, and i will do the same! Perhaps it would not be an issue or conjure so much disdain if people just laid low and kept to themselves — do what you do behind closed doors and leave that information there. It is all very simple, maybe even Pollyannistic, but come on people..shut up/behave/try. Amen!

robinpayne on October 7, 2010 at 1:38 pm

Pete, are you serious, Laura Ingraham actually supports the Ground Zero mosque in the city that I currently live in? Is she out of her mind or what? Her show is not on the NYC area, when she was on in the NYC area, I enjoyed listening to her program (but it came on very late in the day and I don’t know why her show isn’t on the NYC area anymore?), and Pete, I to won’t be too surprised if she lean’s towards the left sometime in the future!

“A nation is identified by it’s borders, language & culture!”

SR: Don’t be surprised. Laura Ingraham is basically a liberal. She’s for animal rights, gay rights, more govt funding for AIDS (it doesn’t get enough?), single motherhood, supported Bono and his dumb forgiving of the debt to terrorist countries like Sudan, says pandering things about Islam and Muslims, and her best friend is David Brock of Media Matters who wrote in his book that she admits she’s a liberal but pretends to be a conservative to make money. And, hey, it’s working. DS

Sean R. on October 7, 2010 at 1:40 pm

I had no idea Laura Ingraham did such an awful thing to people! Why would anyone do that? Thank you for bringing this to light Debbie.

MOMinMINNESOTA on October 7, 2010 at 3:31 pm

Really? How can you ‘feel’ for a group but think they don’t deserve equal rights? If you ‘felt’ for a minority group, like say Jews or blacks, you would understand their problems, and would then relate and support them. Which you do not.

It’s partisan pieces like this, and fake sympathy towards an oppressed minority group that you did not and will not give a damn about, that are destroying this country.

Another wonderful piece trying to ensure a incredible divide in America between ‘real conservatives’ like yourself, and ‘everything else which is liberal and therefore automatically bad’.

Charles on October 7, 2010 at 10:05 pm

It occurred to me that Tyler Clementi, may he rest in peace, committed suicide, not so much because he was outed (on the Internet, no less), for being gay, as because his ROOMMATE, his FRIEND, someone he thought he could TRUST, videotaped him making love and put the videotape on the Internet. His roommate videotaped him making love to a boy. Would it have been harmless and jim-dandy if the roommate had videotaped him making love to a girl? The poor boy! How could he trust anyone after that, or feel safe anywhere? I pray for him, his family and his friends. G-d be with them.

Miranda Rose Smith on October 8, 2010 at 2:56 am

Laura’s radio show is broadcast on 97.1 FM in St. Louis. The station has a local drive time comedy show, The Dave Glover Show. It’s similar to the Bob and Tom Show. Dave used to point out and laugh at Laura’s on-air comments and that she’s rude toward the station’s support staff when she’s in town. One afternoon, Dave went on the air and said that the station manager told him that he could NOT make fun of Laura on-air because her syndication contract prohibits it.

Brian on October 9, 2010 at 10:32 am

This is the unfortunate byproduct of our weak minded society. The kid should have drug his roommate into the street and kicked his ass.

RougeRecon on October 10, 2010 at 9:43 am

Honestly, what this really comes down to is sour grapes. You are angry that Laura Ingraham is more sucessful than you are. I’ve never heard of Debbie Schlussel before. In fact, I wouldn’t have found this blog if not for a google search. Sorry if you don’t like Laura, but apparently many people do. Maybe it’s because while she espouses conservative values, she isn’t nasty and belittling of others while she’s doing it-maybe that’s the secret of her success.

You also conveniently forget to mention that Laura has said that she regrets what she did when she was in college (as an 18-21 year old KID). Whether she has been able to track down long lost people from college and apologize is really none of your business. As for Laura possibly causing someone to committ suicide as a result of her immature actions in college, that’s ridiculous. One cannot make someone kill themself. Anyone who takes their own life was mentally unstable to begin with and would have eventually committed suicide anyway. And in Laura’s case, you don’t even know if anything like that even happened (if it had, haters like yourself SURELY would have uncovered it by now). So, you’re obviously just trying to fuel the fire with pure conjecture for which you have no basis.

And honestly Debbie, who really cares if you’re in favor of gay rights or gay marriage? You’re a nobody and the handful of followers you have already know your childish rantings. Btw-regarding your comments about AIDS research, where are your FACTS? AIDS is killing not just gay people and drug users, but heterosexual women around the world. More people are infected with and dying from AIDS worldwide than any cancer. But I guess that fact doesn’t fit with your narrow minded world view now does it? I can see why you’re a nobody, get a life, get a clue and stop making up your own “facts” if you want to be taken seriously.

brandonj on September 26, 2011 at 2:26 pm

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