January 14, 2011, - 2:03 pm

Clinton/Obama Attack Arab Non-Reform, Say They Can’t Solve “All Disputes” w/ Israel

By Debbie Schlussel

In a marked 180 from the standard Obama Islamo-pandering world view–and the Hillary Clinton parroting of it–and a marked 180 from the standard Bush/Condi Clueless Islamo-pandering view before that, Secretary of State Clinton told the Arab world, yesterday, that the U.S. is disturbed by the lack of reform in the Arab world (translation:  MUSLIM world), and that the U.S. cannot get involved in and resolve every single whine the Arab (read:  MUSLIM) world has with Israel.

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I wish I could say this is “refreshing,” but it’s a tiny baby step for PR purposes, and we all know it’s not a sincere expression of Hillary’s/Obama’s true world view.  Instead, it’s a stark, if diplomatic and politically correct, way of expressing that the U.S. has given up, somewhat on constantly pressuring Israel because there’s rarely fruit in it, and that now the pressure is finally on the deserved party:  the hypocritical, extremist, repressive Muslim world. And it’s kind of delicious that she said this stuff in both a speech to the Emirs and in an interview with Al-Jazeera, the Terrorists News Network, itself. That must’ve stung the Muslims. Criticized on their own soil.

(Unfortunately, she also mentioned the Palestinian State BS again. Someday, maybe Western leaders will realize that the Muslim world is not Pavlov’s dog. They are animals, yes, but a lower form than the dog, as they won’t learn to change their behavior for a carrot or reward. They’ll just take the reward and keep doing the same thing.)

DOHA, Qatar — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Thursday that the Arab world needs to change its political systems and not expect the United States to solve all of its issues with Israel.

“We can’t stop a lot of countries from doing things that we disagree with and we speak out against,” Clinton said in an exchange with a reporter for Al-Jazeera, an Arab news agency.

Clinton was asked why Arab countries should listen to her criticism of their lack of political freedoms when the United States can’t get its ally Israel to make peace with the Palestinians. “Israel is a sovereign country, and it makes its own decisions,” Clinton responded. . . .

Clinton said Israel has reasons to be cautious.

“You often make decisions based on your own experience and history,” she said. “And when the Israelis pulled out of Lebanon, they got Hezbollah and 40,000 rockets, and when they pulled out of Gaza, they got Hamas and 20,000 rockets.”

Still, she said, the United States will continue to work toward achieving a separate state for the Palestinians. . . .

Clinton was in the Qatari capital, Doha, for a regional development conference. She called on Arab leaders to enact economic and political changes and to join the United States in asking “what more can we do to help the Palestinian people continue their state-building efforts, which is a very positive development of the last several years.”

Clinton complained of repression and a lack of rights for women and religious minorities in the Arab world and warned that such problems would hold back the Middle East.

I know you’re not celebrating or anything, nor am I.  We know that every administration–whether it’s Barack Obama or George W. Bush or whoever is Prez next–will continue to pressure Israel and really do nothing to see that the Muslim world actually reforms itself.  We know that ain’t gonna happen.  Ever. And, frankly, if it does, it’s a disaster for us, too, as it means places like Saudi Arabia would have free elections, where Bin Laden and his band of savage tribes would be elected to replace the monarchical House of Saud and similar developments would happen throughout the Arab Street.

Still, that Hillary even had the nerve–and the go-ahead from Obama–to say these things is fun for me to watch . . . especially when we watch the resentment on the faces of the Muslim totalitarians who run those countries.  And, like I said, it’s something we never heard–and NEVER WOULD hear–from the likes of Condi or Bush. We never did in the whole eight years.

And, as I also noted, these statements are very short lived. Soon, they’ll start on Israel again and return to kissing keffiyeh-encrusted ass.

But it’s nice to finally hear a tiny, faint bit of Mid-East truth from those who never express it . . . even if it’s ephemeral at best. Would have loved to have been a fly on that wall.

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24 Responses

Pertaining to Hillary’s trip and fall video ….
“I`ve closely examined the footage and as I expected she, in fact did not trip, but once again as in Bosnia a few years ago, she had to dive for cover after coming under heavy fire…….”

esther on January 14, 2011 at 2:24 pm

Ehh – I mean honestly who cares anymore. A Palestinian state is inevitable – it’s not good – but it’s gonna happen – I think the faster we accept it the faster we “may” have peace.

My view on Muslims isn’t as bad as Debbie’s – I mean from my experience the mass majority here in the US seem to be educated and are Doctors etc… And they tend to be morally conservative – we just need to keep an eye on the extremist every once in a while. My problem is I wish we solve the Jews abs Muslims problems in the Mideast so we can focus on our problems here like the open border to the south.

Thanks Debbie for the news – and i hope and pray you one day embrace Christianity – we could really use you :)

J.P. Mac on January 14, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    Please spare us the inane and inaccurate drivel. Also, Debbie’s views on Islam are not simply an unsupported opinion. If you checked the archives on this site, the intolerance and extremism of Islam even in the United States is quite deeply embedded. If you want a clear example of what happens when Islam really gets a grip on a city, just look at a few articles on Dearborn, Michigan. Finally, this is not a site for proselytizing. Debbie does not use this site to convert you to Orthodox Judaism, so why don’t you refrain from such an effort yourself? This is not the place for it.

    Worry01 on January 14, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    “keep an eye on the extremist every once in awhile”…?…what planet are you on?…when one realizes that there are no moderates in islam and that they all read the same crap…keep fooling yourself JP but they dont fool me anymore.

    BIG IRISH on January 14, 2011 at 5:49 pm

      you hit it right on the nail.

      mominwisconsin on January 15, 2011 at 11:11 am

    Always hearing and never learning. That is you. I will give you the benefit of the doubt…maybe you are unlearned. I am a Christian who believes that there are not always tidy little endings as your “theology”. There will never be a Palestinian state. Not ever.

    Lynn Ferguson on January 15, 2011 at 11:32 am

Well, the election is coming up in 2012; I guess they’re building a paper record to use in a year or so. Has she said anything about Lebanon yet?

Little Al on January 14, 2011 at 2:44 pm

Debbie, there’s that video of Hillary slipping on the plane carriage ladder.. its really funny. If there’s a lesson there, attacking Israel, as she did in Abu Dhabi results in bad karma. Maybe she had the fear of G-d struck in her and changed her tune… for awhile!

Anyway, democratic elections in the Arab World will bring Islamists to power. Its happened in Iraq, in Palestinian self rule and nearly in Algeria twenty years ago. The one thing Arab dictators know is whoever replaces them will be far worse. There is no indication that freedom in the Middle East will moderate already fanatical societies. Just the opposite.

And in Tunisia, where there is unrest, the dictator Ben Ali may be forced to step down but there will be no democracy. There is no democracy in any Muslim country for the most obvious of reasons. And there won’t be any in our lifetime.

NormanF on January 14, 2011 at 2:45 pm

If you recall during the run for the Democratic presidential candidate, when it was Hillary vs. Obama, Hillary clearly stated she stood behind Israel. Obama, if you recall did not say this at all, and very grudgingly acknowledged Israel’s right to exist. I still wish Hillary would have made the run for president instead of Obama despite her shortcomings.

Zsuzsi on January 14, 2011 at 3:00 pm

“Still, that Hillary even had the nerve–and the go-ahead from Obama–to say these things is fun for me to watch . . . especially when we watch the resentment on the faces of the Muslim totalitarians who run those countries”

And coming from a woman at that!!

hahaha

ebayer on January 14, 2011 at 3:10 pm

[Debbie – Still, that Hillary even had the nerve–and the go-ahead from Obama–to say these things is fun for me to watch]

I disagree with the assumption here. I am not so sure that Obama approved this. I think after the last election (and also with the possibility that the courts throw out Obama care necessitating a redo of the whole process with a different congressional makeup) the last thing Obama wants when he runs for re-election is Hillary attacking him. Hillary can say almost anything she wants with impunity. There is no way Obama fires Hillary over something like this and everyone knows it.

I_AM_ME on January 14, 2011 at 3:20 pm

This is nothing but a song and dance for the American public in general, and in particular for the American Democratic Party Jewish contributors.

After Obama wins reelection, he will really stomp on Israel’s neck.

Jonathan Grant on January 14, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    Words + no action. Israel is standing strong and so a new tack is in order. Pure Obama play for Jewish dem campaign contributions and to try and look “tough.”

    This administration has less than 24 months to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes and make us forget he hates America and is a socialist bent on destroying it.

    So via his sec state, he goes out of his way to say some stern things to the Arabs. In my view, this is just Obama trying to look / act tough – because he really isn’t and our adversaries know it. For their part, the Arabs laugh all the way to the bank with $100/barrel oil…

    GC on January 16, 2011 at 3:48 pm

Such honesty, admittedly limited, does have a precedent, even during the Bush years. Judea Pearl (father of the murdered Daniel, may he be avenged) has a piece in the Jerusalem Post about comments made by Holbrooke at the end of a conference in Doha back in 2005. His forthright statement, coming after two days of pontification, left the audience stunned (in Pearl’s telling), but there was no follow-up. So the hard truths didn’t take root. I don’t expect Hillary’s comments to have much of a shelf-life either.

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=203312

As it happens, the White House is gathering a group of “Middle East hands” from the Clinton and Bush teams which, together with his own people, are to come up with “new ideas” to promote (impose?) an Israeli-Palestinian peace settlement. Meanwhile, there’re no comparable teams to deal with Iraq falling into Iran’s orbit, the Hezbullah-induced crisis in Lebanon, or the threat of violence from Sudan’s Muslim north given the intent of the non-Muslim south to split off.

Raymond in DC on January 14, 2011 at 3:59 pm

Yes, Saudi Arabia will have to handle its “Zionist Spy Vulture” on its own. It is not the job of the United States to deal with every psychosis in the Muslim world.

Worry01 on January 14, 2011 at 5:54 pm

Debbie every once in a while politicians say something true but in this case it’s like peeing in the ocean. The US is addicted to the myth that Israel can gain peace by making concessions to a bunch of repulsive cavemen. Anyway if you play words with friends pm me your screenname and I’ll invite you to play me. It accepts lots of Yiddish words so we’ll have fun. I think you have to have a new iPhone to play, but you should have one regardless.

A1 on January 14, 2011 at 8:14 pm

I_AM_ME on January 14, 2011 at 3:20 pm
makes a good point. It just might be all Hillary’s doing.
OK, maybe Bill had some input….

consider this:
maybe she wants to run, scratch that, she’d love to run (cause I’m sure she wants to) in 2012. What better way to derail
O-baby-Boomster than to go centrist. The Republicans still haven’t found anyone to run against BhO, and the way they’re fawning over Obama’s speech, might as well just lay down and play dead, so I’m sure she has a chance. She takes a position or two they’re all unwilling to take, even just for show, and who knows?
And let’s face it, even she can’t be worse than O’bamm-bamm.
Limbaugh’s right, never underestimate the Clinton’s.

theShadow on January 14, 2011 at 10:39 pm

It’s a good thing she fell forward. If she fell backward, and when that fat ass of hers hit the tarmac, it could have a “MOMB-Daisy Cutter” effect.

CornCoLeo on January 15, 2011 at 12:25 am

Hillary is what happens when strong drugs are consumed by even dtronger drink.

Bill Ford on January 15, 2011 at 2:03 pm

Obama is becoming more of a centrist Democrat b/c he realizes that if he doesn’t, he will totally blow it in 2012. Every politician who gets one term in the White House wants a second one.

Mike on January 15, 2011 at 6:21 pm

Every politician who gets one term in the White House craves a second one, and Obama is no exception.

The US is becoming an increasingly conservative nation, with the number of people identifying as Democrats way down and the results of the November election in. Obama realizes that if he wants another term, he will have to adapt to this conservative climate.

Stopping his despicable bashing of the Jewish State is a great idea. In fact, Obama’s anti-Israel rhetoric has been THE greatest disappoitment that I’ve had with his administration. Whether the shift is permanent I cannot say, but I do not believe that it is. I do believe, however, that people should hold Israel’s barbarian enemies to the same standards as they hold the Jewish State.

Israel kills terrorists; Iran hangs homosexual children. I see many people (of both parties) protesting against the former, but when it comes to bashing Iran … hey, BHO even said that he would invite Ahma-dictator to the White House for a chat during his electoral campaign. Disgusting. APPEASEMENT. DOESN’T. WORK. It didn’t work with uber-cretin Neville Chamberlain/Adolf Hitler in the 1930s, and it won’t work today.

Alas, in our politically correct climate, being pro-Israel is very unpopular.

Mike on January 15, 2011 at 6:56 pm

Perhaps the policies of the Netanyahu government finally showed some results. He seems to have called everybody’s bluff. Bibi did so knowing that OPEC is not going to change their production quotas anytime soon.

If the Arabs want to see Hillary plead their case, Saudi-OPEC needs to get busy and pump more petroleum. We have the best government Saudi petro-dollars can buy. As long as they keep choking our economic recovery, they can expect less kindness from our government.

Back in the 1990’s when the Saudis were grateful for our rescuing them from Saddam Hussein, they pumped petroleum and assisted in America’s economic recovery. The result was American pressure on Israel to make concessions. Today, we’re still being choked by OPEC long after the economy has crashed. No economic recovery is in sight. The O’Bama Administration is suffering at the polls. Time to take off the gloves.

Sec. of State Clinton’s statement is one of those “warning shots across the bow”. If the Saudis get the message, they’ll get busy and pump petroleum to fuel an economic recovery. The U.S. State Dept. will reward them handsomely with more dead Jews.

If the Saudis “stay the course”, there may be more U.S. State Department criticism coming. Even Jimmy Carter used OPEC as his scapegoat for economic misery when he was President. It was not sincere.

The present criticism is hardly any more sincere. Sec. of State Clinton’s criticism is nothing that can’t be solved by an increase in OPEC’s petroleum production targets.

Remember what I always say, Debbie: “It’s always the stinkin’ money!”

There is NO Santa Claus on January 15, 2011 at 11:36 pm

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