January 25, 2011, - 11:12 pm

Barack Hussein Obama STFU, er . . . SOTU: “US Muslims Part of American Family”

By Debbie Schlussel

I did not watch tonight’s Barack Hussein Obama STFU.  I mean SOTU–State of the Union.  I was too busy watching a screening of “The Rite,” starring Anthony Hopkins, which I know had far better acting.  But I hear that the most “memorable” lines of his speech included lectures about gays in the military and how “American Muslims are part of the American family.”  It’s funny how he didn’t tell American Muslims that gays (and Jews and Blacks and non-Muslims) are a part of the American family.  That would be “intolerant” and “offensive,” right? Frankly, since I’ve been the victim of several legitimate, anti-Semitic death, rape, and torture threats . . . ALL of them from Muslims, I’d like to know when Barry Hussein O will lecture Muslims that Jews are part of the American family and always have been, well before any Muslims slithered onto American shores.

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Ya know, Nidal Malik Hasan and Faisal Shahzad are American Muslims, so I guess we must welcome them and more Fort Hood massacres and attempted Times Square bombings into the American family.

The thing is that the rest of the American people are not the ones who need to be lectured with the baloney that Muslims are a part of the American family.  It’s American Muslims who need to be reminded that they are a part of the American family . .  and they need to start acting like it.

Also, note that he didn’t call them, “Muslim Americans,” but “American Muslims.”  They are Muslims for whom Islam is first–always–and for whom “American” is a mere irrelevant adjective of geography, not loyalty or pride.

Like I said, we don’t need to be lectured about Muslims in America being part of the American family.  It’s Muslims who need that lecture.

From the Debbie Schlussel Facebook Fan Page (please join by pressing “Like”):

Adele Bloom:

They are a part of HIS family.

Richard Murray:

We’re supposed forget that part where 19 of them killed nearly 3000 of the rest of us.

From my Facebook Friend Profile Page:

Tim Becker:

Are honor killings part of the American family?

Jeanette Victoria:

No one in *my* family has ever tried to blow me up!

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65 Responses

By reminding us of this he 1)Shows his time in Indonesia has not been forgotten, 2) even though he says he is a Christian, funny how he always defaults to protect Muslims, and 3) keeps those pesky birth certificate questions alive.

Daphne Y. on January 25, 2011 at 11:50 pm

I’m sure you would be quick to call out someone who quoted an author, politician, whomever (in this case President Obama during his SOTU Address) without reading or listening to the full work or speech. You stated that you didn’t watch the SOTU Address, but had you done so, you would have known that before he talked about American Muslims being part of the American family, his topic at that moment was about Muslims. He could have talked about Jews, Christians, or Hindus and said the same thing, but he was talking about Muslims living in America, so it would make sense for him to say something like that. Also, keep in mind that George W. Bush was a big supporter of Jews. Just because Obama doesn’t talk about Jews as much doesn’t mean he hates anyone that’s not a Muslim. You can’t just pick and choose what you want to hear without knowing why it was said. This is nothing personal against you. It’s a simple observation after watching the address.

Abe A. on January 26, 2011 at 12:13 am

    Honestly Abe, are you for real? We’ve had to endure the tragic and destroying Obama Regime for two years now and you still have no idea why DS and some of us would NOT waste our time listening to this profligate liar? C’mon!

    I recall lots of Libs NOT being able to take GWB and they called him horrid names and accused him of all sorts of inhuman atrocities yet in THAT instance it was lots of bluster and lies. When GWB was first elected I was NOT a Conservative (in name) and I remember wanting to finally see SUBSTANCE of what they said he was (before I believed it this time)and hardly any transpired. BDS was chiefly voodoo politics (however, if one REALLY wanted a reason to dislike his policies and Presidency, DS had the good-guts here. Her taking him to task was ALWAYS substantial, but one hardly heard it…especially in the Liberal media).

    We are on to Cap’n Zero. I don’t need to listen to his palaver ever again because he and his gross wife are complete frauds. He is a Marxist and his agenda is to dismantle the USA as we know it. If you can’t see this two years in, you don’t want to see it or are on his side.

    Skunky on January 26, 2011 at 10:38 am

Obama, or Barry Soetoro as his Birth Certificate is reputed to say in Hawaii, manages to combine a degree of deceitfulness with stupidity and ignorance such that the world is left in awe. This is the navigator or the Titanic reincarnated.

pat on January 26, 2011 at 1:15 am

If I had people like that in my family, I would legally change my name and move. Islamo-Pandering for Barack Obama seems to be second nature.

Worry01 on January 26, 2011 at 1:54 am

http://avideditor.wordpress.com/2011/01/25/is-obama-being-pro-jihadi-in-the-state-of-the-union-2011/ I made a video of that and his other pro jihadi comment.

avideditor on January 26, 2011 at 3:00 am

Sorry, I did not, could not watch.
I had a great supper and wanted to keep it down.

…wait, is this Michelle wideS Obama’s anti-obesity program at work?!?

theShadow on January 26, 2011 at 3:14 am

What an ignorant little piece of bullshit from a failed wannabe political pundit. At least, if you want to write about the SOTU than watch it first. Until that happens, take a huge slice of STFU-Cake.

Tengoinfo on January 26, 2011 at 5:38 am

Good stuff Debbie as always – I could not find the intestinal fortitude to sit and watch this lying, manipulating, condascending traitor – I hope he gets what he deserves soon…

BIG IRISH on January 26, 2011 at 7:10 am

    BTW, for the record, I am also a Veteran of the United States Air Force and served during Operation Desert Storm.

    Ameican Muslim Ray on January 26, 2011 at 8:39 am

Keep telling it like it is, Debbie! That’s why we love you!

Diocleese on January 26, 2011 at 7:46 am

As an American Muslim, I am proud to say that I was born and raised in the City of Brotherly Love, a city that was founded on the principal of Religious Freedom, Philadelphia, PA. As an African American, I am the descendant of former slaves who were stolen from their homeland and brought here against their will. Many of them were protected by Quakers as they sought after their own freedom. I owe my Muslim existance to American History. There is American History coursing through my blood and my sweat. America is the core of my being. People who still go out of their way to dismiss American Muslims are the people that Mr. Obama was ‘lecturing’ to. I have known muslims most of my life I have many muslims in my family. No need in telling them to go home, because they are already home. We are Muslims, we are Americans, and we are part of the American Family, whether or not other family members recognize it or like it. This blog only goes to show that there are loud mouth ignoramus members of every family.

American Muslim Ray on January 26, 2011 at 8:28 am

^^^

s an African American, I am the descendant of former slaves who were stolen from their homeland and brought here against their will.

…mainly by Arab i.e. Muslim slave traders!

Infidel Pride on January 26, 2011 at 11:09 am

American Muslim Ray, I have a question for you pal, since you claim to be a muslim, do you by any chance condemn your fellow muslim betheren killing people in the name of their religion? Do you condemn Nidal Hassan for the Fort Hood terrorist shootings more than a year ago? Do you condemn Fizsal Shazad who tried to explode New York City last May? Do you condemn the 9/11/01 attacks on our soil by muslim fanatic zealots? Do you condemn the London, England attacks six years ago by muslim zealots? And do you condemn the terrorist attacks in Moscow, Russia over the weekend committed by muslim radicals? I can go on and on about this, but you have to notice that your fellow muslim bretheren have been on this conquest on trying to convert everybody into islam since the 7th century. I am aware that you’ve studied the “muslim conquest”, when Mohammed died in the year 639, the muslims created an army and went onto a conquest and did everything they can in order to convert everybody into islam, they burned down the Alexandria libary in Egypt and converted that country into islam (prior to that, Egypt was a christian nation), etc. but they were stopped by the crusades and they started to become tolerant of everybody elses religion, etc.

Apparently your new to this website American Muslim Ray, but Debbie points out and exposes the fringes of islam, she’s not doing muslim-bashing from what you probably think. And also American Muslim Ray, do you also condemn all of those muslim zealots who made all sorts of death threats towards Debbie over the years or are you going to apologize for them and say nothing?

“A nation is identified by it’s borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on January 26, 2011 at 11:18 am

Infidel Pride, I to am african-american myself, and yes the arabs in africa were slave-traders, prior to slavery. I love it when the white left wing communist who are revisionist have been using this propaganda BS by saying that, “it was the white-man who were slave traders”, and sadly Infidel Pride, some of us blacks have bought that big lie.

“A nation is identified by it’s borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on January 26, 2011 at 11:22 am

I didn’t watch the fake bipartisan love-in last night. Besides the obligatory PC pandering to Muslims, we got a pitch for several trillion dollars in new spending disguised as “investments” – which of course was practiced by none other than Jennifer Granholm, whose signal achievement in MI as Governor was to devastate both the state’s economy and her own party. Obama seems eager to outdo her in those aims. You won’t find that mentioned in the national media, that seems as absorbed in his reflection as he is in it. The one thing November didn’t do was change Obama’s leftist views in any meaningful way. The man is a sincere true believer, not a political opportunist like Bill Clinton.

And this sounded like a speech he could have given in any year! Skipworthy to the max. Debbie missed nothing of consequence last night.

NormanF on January 26, 2011 at 12:22 pm

I know it was too much to hope that after insisting “American Muslims are part of the American family”, he’d remind them that family responsibilities include cooperating with law enforcement. In fact, there are American Muslims who are calling on their fellows NOT to cooperate with the FBI. If they were in MY family I’d disown them.

For the record, I *did* watch the whole speech. Well, that’s more than an hour wasted I’ll never get back. More government picking winners, dressed up as “investment”. Yes to “green technology”, no to big bad oil – getting rid of the latter’s tax breaks, but not those of ethanol. Taking on things that belong in the private sector (high speed internet and rail). This once went by the name of “industrial policy”, but it’s really a form of crony capitalism. He put in another plug for the Dream Act, another defense of his health care plan. He claimed he wanted to reduce the burdens of regulation, while justifying his financial/credit reforms (aka regulations). And remind me someone of what was achieved by the last trillion in “investment” (aka the stimulus).

And the most laughable part was the foreign policy part toward the end, when he boasted of the US’ improved standing in the world. Excuse me? This, so soon after the US suffered its latest defeat over Lebanon.

What a poseur!

Raymond in DC on January 26, 2011 at 12:27 pm

Hi Debbie,

I have a few issues with this post, sorry. First off, you have no right to make ignorant comments about the State of the Union address without even watching it. If you had watched, instead of insisting on making arrogant, wannabe witty comments, you would have heard the following line:

“Our troops come from every corner of this country – they are black, white, Latino, Asian and Native American. They are Christian and Hindu, Jewish and Muslim. And, yes, we know that some of them are gay.”

The above also in reference to the American family and dream.

Also, I continue to take issue with your lumping of all Muslims into one hateful category. Both you and I don’t appreciate it when Jews are all called radical Zionists or forced into unfair stereotypes as greedy, wealth-obsessed leeches on society and I would think that, as someone who has been the victim of anti-Semitic threats, you would understand this more than anyone.

So how can you so arbitrarily decide that ALL Muslims are evil, and ALL Muslims are out to get our country? That all Muslims are the equivalent of two radicals, and all of them must be bombers? You yourself pointed out that 19 of them attacked us on 9/11 – NINETEEN. Out of MILLIONS worldwide. Do the actions of those nineteen automatically invalidate the actions, livelihoods and religion of all the rest? How could you say that America is merely a term of geography to the hundreds of thousands of Muslims who serve this country each day, both in our work force and laying their lives on the line in our army? I’m sure I could find a loyal Muslim American to prove you and all your stereotyping wrong – in fact, there’s one right here. American Muslim Ray, thank you for posting, and Debbie, if you want to show some semblance of intelligence, tolerance and the patriotism you preach, you’ll acknowledge Ray’s legitimate argument and his loyalty to our country.

One more thing. The argument that Jews were here first – “well before any Muslims slithered onto American shores” as a method of justifying your intolerance and Jewish superiority is ludicrous. The America that both of us love is a nation of immigrants that thrives on the American dream, the idea that anyone can come here, fight for a better life and contribute to the advancement of our society. Or does that apply to everyone but Muslims? If you had been paying any attention last night, you would have heard President Obama – and yes, his name is President Obama, not some other ridiculous pseudonym you’ve invented for him – you would have heard him mention this point, Jews, Muslims, blacks, Latinos included. Besides, if you want to use the “we were here first” argument, you’ll get it flipped on you very fast, because guess what? Ishmael, not Isaac, was the first born.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

tractorplaneguitar on January 26, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    *So how can you so arbitrarily decide that ALL Muslims are evil, and ALL Muslims are out to get our country?*

    If they are following the violent, evil, pedophile Mohammed by still considering themselves “Muslim,” they have no business being in America.

    We are not a “nation of immigrants.” The vast majority of us were born here. Our Christian and Jewish ancestors created the great country America became. Muslims had nothing to do with making America great.

    Now Muslim barbarians who have never contributed one thing to culture and civilization and who are completely incapable of anything positive want to come here to steal and conquer. They refuse to assimilate into Western values–only keep their backward “cultural” (if you use the word “culture” to describe anything Muslim) violent, barbaric way of life.

    Muslims are incapable of contributing anything to America and should never have been allowed onto our shores. Can you name one positive contribution of Muslims to the West? Didn’t think so.

    JM on January 26, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Tractorplaneguitar (which we will abbreviate as “douchebag”) deserves a response.

    Unlike most other groups, the Muslims hate the openness and freedoms of American society. Go to most Muslim countries, and you will see the basic freedoms subjugated on the whim a religious wacko, Go to Pakistan, where in most cities, women are not even seen on the street. Try to practice Judaism or Christianity openly in most of these countries– you will be arrested or worse.

    As for the Muslims in this country, unlike other people, they cheered in Dearborn and in Patterson, NJ when the World Trade Center was destroyed. They cheered U.S. military defeats. The sermons from the Imams in this country call for Shariah law, and for the U.S. to become a Muslim country. In some communities, Islamic culture is being imposed on society, with the support of morons like you. Yes, in a few schools, girls are being separated from boys. Christmas is no longer being recognized, nor is Halloween, because of Muslim complaints. Muslims seek to subvert America in big and little ways…objecting to having their driver’s license pictures taken without their faces being covered up, etc.

    CAIR and other Islamic organizations have defended Hamas, Hezbullah, and other terrorist organizations. They have justified or minimized Islamic terrorist attacks in this country, and have blamed the attacks like 09/11 on the Jews. CAIR is an apologist for terrorism. It urges American Muslims not to cooperate with law enforcement.

    Additionally, no other group commits welfare and Social Security fraud better than the Muslims in this country. In Dearborn, so many Muslims are on welfare, Social Security disability, etc. The theft of federal and state money is rampant.

    Since the massive wave of Muslims reaching the U.S. shores, the number of physical attacks on Jews and synagogues has skyrocketed. Most of these attacks are by Muslims. One day, these attacks will be on churches where the Muslims make up the majority of the community.

    Islam itself teaches that Jews and Christians are, at best, second class citizens. Jews and Christians can not testify against a Muslim. Do you think a Muslim juror will listen to the testimony of a Jew or Christian if the defendant is Muslim?
    The Koran refers to Jews and pigs and monkeys (or dogs and monkeys, I forgot which). Islam teaches that in a war with “nonbelievers” women and children can be carried off and raped.

    The Koran and the holy books of Islam openly teach hatred of others. You will not find such a teaching in the Torah, or in the old or New Testaments.

    So douche, get your head out of your butt and wake up. America is under attack, and simpletons like you are aiding and abetting our destruction.

    Jonathan Grant on January 26, 2011 at 2:16 pm

      Jon, you hit all the main points really well. And I didn’t hear him defend this country and its freedoms for ALL Americans – just as well when you consider not a single Muslim country is rated as “free” by Freedom House. And we’ve seen how native born American Muslims have repaid this country with violence and treachery. Its like they believe our infidel freedoms goes against their grain and they want to impose upon the rest of us the repression familiar in the Muslim World. And oh – most of those protesting repressive regimes there simply got tired of the current dictator – its not freedom they want. Nor is it what radical Islamists are offering in the alternative. What they want in their countries is something that should never be tolerated or accepted here no matter how much their apologists dress it up.

      Thanks again for setting the record straight for us about Islam.

      NormanF on January 26, 2011 at 3:25 pm

      To Jonathan Grant: Thank you for your response. You deserve one also, but sorry, you’ll get no demeaning nickname or insult from me.

      I will not deny that there are elements of Islam that are radical, and perhaps you are right – maybe all the organizations you mentioned are secretly out to get us all. But this by no means makes ALL Muslims evil and ALL Muslims terrorists. That’s an unfair and ignorant assumption.

      Also, the Koran does in one instance refer to specific Jews as pigs, but not the nation as a whole. The New Testament, however, accuses the Jews as being the killers of Christ with his blood on their hands.

      [You will not find such a teaching in the Torah, or in the old or New Testaments.]

      I won’t claim to be an expert on the New Testament, but trust me, the Torah is full of plenty of abominations. Why, for example, did God order the genocide and mass-murder of the Amelek nation? Why did Samson cut off the foreskins of a thousand Philistines? And that’s not including all the incest and rape the Bible includes. Did you know that Abraham and Sarah were half-siblings?

      [America is under attack, and simpletons like you are aiding and abetting our destruction.]

      Yes, America is under attack – by all this poisonous rhetoric and accusation. Aided and abetted by people such as yourself.

      tractorplaneguitar on January 26, 2011 at 3:49 pm

Tractorplaneguitar – brilliantly said

I agree with you 100% – Debbie would you like it the Christians (of which I belong too) were to sit here and lump all you Jews to the category of the a-hole traitor Jonathan Pollard or Ben Ami Kadish (both spies for Israel who betrayed America)? No – and for the record I don’t think most new are like that – and here’s my proof – Adm Shapiro a Jew threatened to resign if Pollard was released to Israel.

Just like the majority of Jews here are good peace loving loyal Americans so are the Muslims – and I would stand by them as the president did.

Thanks

George A. on January 26, 2011 at 1:10 pm

*I agree with you 100% – Debbie would you like it the Christians (of which I belong too*

You really expect us to believe that you are Christian and American with all your grammar and punctuation mistakes? Nice try, Muslim.

JM on January 26, 2011 at 1:27 pm

Tractorplaneguitar, I have a question for you buster, when the islamist cowardly, snuck attack us on 9/11/01, did you see on the news that muslims across the middle east where celebrating that we got attack by their lowlife, subhuman bretheren! Majority of the muslims in the middle east claimed that we deserved to be attack on that day, and are you going to condemn them for saying that, or are you going to have your head in the sand and continue to bash Debbie for telling the whole truth? And this is why I’ve said in previous posts, that we need to do some type of crackdown on islam immigration! Stop bringing in muslims from terrorist supporting states in the ME, because we all know what their capable of doing, they try to do some plot on us, they use our laws and want a muslim theocracy in this country, some of them don’t work and don’t want to work by collecting welfare and living off of us who work for a living, and that’s why this country is bankrupted it’s because of all of these entitlement programs. Illegal immigration didn’t start under Obama, this has been going on since probably the last few years of the Reagan administration (correct me if I’m wrong on that) or the start of the Bush Sr. (Bush-41) administration?

“A nation is identified by it’s borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on January 26, 2011 at 2:06 pm

What timing!

I didn’t go to work today because of the snow. And, whaddya know, as I type this “The Delta Force” end credits are rolling. One of the greatest all time movies!!!!!!

What a difference 25 years make. There is no way this movie would be made today. The Muslims are clearly, absolutely the bad guys and Chuck Norris is super, duper, absolutely, the greatest movie hero in history!!!!!!!!!!!!

No joke, I’d elect Chuck Norris as President in a heartbeat. What a Nancy boy nation we have become. And, I don’t even blame Obama and the lefty, pinko Dems.

I blame the Republican Party. They sold their souls for power and money.

Jeff W. on January 26, 2011 at 2:11 pm

I think what Obama would have prefered to say was, “we Americans will eventually be part of the Muslim family.”

adam on January 26, 2011 at 2:41 pm

Dear JM:

[If they are following the violent, evil, pedophile Mohammed by still considering themselves “Muslim,” they have no business being in America.]

First off, watch yourself. Whether you agree or disagree with his religion, Mohammed is NOT a pedophile, or evil in any way. Please find me evidence of pedophilia anywhere in Islamic teaching. I’m not a Muslim but frankly, your baseless accusation is hideously offensive.

Also, if you want to discuss pedophilia, we can talk about the scandals in the Catholic church. Or are those priests secretly Muslim?

[We are not a “nation of immigrants.” The vast majority of us were born here. Our Christian and Jewish ancestors created the great country America became. Muslims had nothing to do with making America great.]

I think you should open a history textbook before you continue to discuss this point. This country was FOUNDED by immigrants, who left England in search of RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. Many Americans are the descendants of Irish Catholic immigrants, who came to America in waves in the 19th century, and many are Asian immigrants, without whom the transcontinental railroad could not have been built; and today Asian-American and Indian-American immigrants are some of the best and brightest in their fields. Many Jews themselves are immigrants to this nation – I am the great-grandchild of Russian Jews, and even Debbie is of Polish ancestry. Two in five Americans can trace their lineage through Ellis Island. And, newsflash: by 2050, Hispanics will make up a third of the US population. So no, the vast majority of Americans cannot trace back their American history generations and generations.

[Now Muslim barbarians who have never contributed one thing to culture and civilization and who are completely incapable of anything positive want to come here to steal and conquer. They refuse to assimilate into Western values–only keep their backward “cultural” (if you use the word “culture” to describe anything Muslim) violent, barbaric way of life.]

Again, I advise you to read up a bit on your history before commenting further. Islamic civilizations were some of the greatest on Earth, while the West was still a collection of little medieval villages, and are responsible for inventing many of the things we use every day. Ethanol, carboxylic acids, coffee, kerosene, petrol, hydropower, sugar refinery, toothpaste, soap, the first public hospitals, magnifying glasses, astronomical clocks, adhesive bandages, arabesque architecture and algebra, to name just a few. Sounds like thriving culture to me.

[Muslims are incapable of contributing anything to America and should never have been allowed onto our shores. Can you name one positive contribution of Muslims to the West? Didn’t think so.]

Well…see above. They invented those things and many more that we make use of in daily life. And incapable of contributing anything to America? American figures and contributers to our society who just so happen to be Muslim, such as boxer Mohammed Ali, NBA player Shaquille O’Neal and CNN journalist Fareed Zakaria all prove otherwise.

Try reading up on your facts before responding again.

tractorplaneguitar on January 26, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    Mohammed was a vile barbarian who married a nine-year-old girl. And he was not a pedophile? This is the guy you Muslims worship, along with the false god, allah.

    You need to check up on your history. Our Founding Fathers were NOT immigrants, with the exception of Alexander Hamilton. Our republic did not exist until 1776, and it was founded for the people of the United States and its “posterity.” We were never founded as a “nation of immigrants.”

    Islamic societies have NEVER been advanced. They were great at stealing and conquering from the Greek civilization that was already in place in the East and the highly advanced Hindu Indian civilization. Barbarians can steal and plunder and become rich for a while, but there was nothing in Islam that would allow the greatness to continue, unlike in Europe. Now, you Muslims want to come to our shores and steal and plunder our greatness, which you can never achieve on your own.

    Can you name a single advanced Muslim democracy? Not at all. So, again, why should we invite these Muslims onto our shores?

    JM on January 26, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    Douchebag,

    I won’t even attempt to respond to most of your half truths. Magnifying glasses and algebra go back to the Greeks. Carboxylic acids are found in nature, as is ethanol. (The Greeks and Jews were making wines and spirits thousands of years before Islam was even invented). Public hospitals were started by the ancient Greeks and Egyptians, who were not Arab (and predated Islam by thousands of years).

    However, you show your ignorance when you state that Mohammed was not a pedophile. He married and had sex with a nine year old. (Going by the Western solar calendar, she would be 7 or 8). You know nothing about Mohammed.

    I bet you are 19 or 20. You were propagandized to in the school system about how wonderful Islam is. You never looked at the other side of the story.

    Your stupidity would be pathetic if it were not so dangerous.

    Jonathan E. Grant on January 26, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    Tractorplaneguitar, thank you for making such a rational and well-thought-out argument, on this site where rationality is most scarce. You, Sabra and weezly (who has an awesome name, by the way) have given me confidence in the nature of Americans to have serious, civil discussions online. Hopefully, the rest of the commentators on this site may one day gain that ability.

    Linnea on January 27, 2011 at 9:22 pm

      I’m replying to my own comment because I forgot to add AmericanMuslimRay in my list of thoughtful contributors above. You guys are awesome.

      Linnea on January 27, 2011 at 9:26 pm

To Sean R:

Of course I condemn the 9/11 attacks and anyone who would stoop so low as to celebrate them. However, I also condemn referring to our fellow humans as “lowlife” and “subhuman” – you do know that’s how the Holocaust started, correct? Please, at least maintain some level of respect for your fellow human beings.

tractorplaneguitar on January 26, 2011 at 3:36 pm

I agree with Grant….TPG is a DB.

I betcha he would like a Bacha-bazi boy himself.

Oh, and Ishmael was illegitimate in Genesis, so, so much for birth order.

TGP will be one of the first (Liberals) lined up when the Mooooslims come. Then the weeping, shock and hand wringing will come. Useless idiot!

Skunky on January 26, 2011 at 3:39 pm

Islam was once a thriving culture but then it turned obscurantist and fanatical. The West overtook it because it was open to new ideas and could grow and change. Name me one contribution Islam has made to the world after the Middle Ages. The Muslim World today universally hates the West, America and Israel. Obama lectures to us to accept Muslims as part of the American family. They need to show they are Americans like the rest of us before they considered part of our family. It was Islam that killed 3000 Americans a decade ago in cold blood and we’re exhorted to get past it, get over it and move on. Sorry but its fresh as yesterday in my mind and we all know how the entire Muslim World reacted when it happened.

Try reading up on your facts and the facts about what Islam is today are stubborn things.

NormanF on January 26, 2011 at 3:43 pm

TGP, are you kidding me? Your telling me that I and the rest of the people in this country should show respect for our enemies (who are the islamofascist)? Sorry buddy, but I will NOT show any type of respect for those who want to destroy our way of living and want to kill us all, I don’t go for that. As one poster said a little earlier on, if the islamist decide to attack us again, you TGP and the rest of the bleeding-heart left wingers will be the very first targets that the islamist will go after first, because you morons will more likely bend your asses backwards towards them and not defend yourself. If something like that happens TGP, you and the rest of your left wing ilk will beg and demand that the conservatives, US military, etc. to save you and help you from the islamist who wants to kill you or convert you (with violence of course).

And for you to say that I refer the radical muslims as lowlife & subhuman and the holocaust began like that is pretty offensive to me, and offensive to jews, christians, etc. who survived the holocaust in Germany 80 years ago.

“A nation is identified by it’s borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on January 26, 2011 at 4:21 pm

I wonder if Douchebag’s boyfriend is a Muslim. That, and a poor education, are the only things that could explain the lies and half-truths in his postings. I guess you could say he has a little Muslim in him.

Ooh, big contributions to America. Draft Dodger Mohammed Ali, who has done nothing for anyone else), Shaquille O’Neal (basketball player), and one newscaster. Yeah, big contribution to America. Compare that to the fact that, even with anti-Semitism, over a quarter of all Nobel prizes have gone to Jews, and the fact that the Jews played a role in almost every historical and scientific endeavor in America.

Jonathan Grant on January 26, 2011 at 4:37 pm

debbie, as pro-israel and jewish as i am, i also love my fellow muslims who have pledged their loyalty to this country as much as my irish catholic immigrant grandparents did when they came here. of course i do not love the terrorists- they disgust me, and it disgusts me that they hide behind their religion as a reason for their god-awful acts. as has been said many times, islam, as well as christianity, judaism, and a multitude of other religions, preaches peace.
you have an irrational hatred towards all muslims due to the actions of a few- do you claim to hate all who have ever read the catcher in the rye because mark david chapman invoked holden caulfield when asked why he shot john lennon?

what everyone needs to remember is that extremism is a pathology, not a religion. wherever there is religion there will be extremists in its name.

if you are not open-minded and intelligent enough to accept all religions and peoples who are peaceful, then it is you who is the terrorist. you are assaulting mankind.

weezlyismyking on January 26, 2011 at 5:02 pm

You’re ALL DBs. Don’t jump down tractorplaneguitar’s throat. He brought up EXTREMELY valid points, unlike most of the DBs here who don’t even bother with capitalizing proper nouns, like “Allah” and “Islam.” (I’m looking at YOU, JM.) I may be Jewish; I may be Israeli; I may live in America. But it doesn’t mean I hate all Muslims. Just because some are radicals, does NOT mean every single Muslim person is a terrorist. Get the fudge over yourselves; have any of you ever even MET a Muslim person? One of my best friends is Muslim, and she considers the terrorist acts disgusting. She and her mother can’t even make Haj anymore because they’re afraid a radical will bomb an American plane. So no; not all Muslims are terrorists.

First off.
It’s true; Muslims didn’t techincally invent all the things tractorplaneguitar said they did. But they certainly furthered them, and came up with their own inventions. They preserved a lot of Greek inventions after other empires collapsed, and passed on the teachings. For a while, Islam was one of the greatest teaching centers of the world. For a very long time, Islam medicine and technology was far more advanced than the European.

Second.
I remember 9/11. I cried. I knew people who both survived and died in the attack. But you can’t judge a people as a whole, for what just 19 people did. Rather than taking upon yourself to spread animosity, how about you just wage war on those 19 people. Oh, wait, no; you can’t. Because you’re just a stupid little anonymous on the internet who doesn’t know what filth they’re spewing from their virtual mouth.

Third.
JM: What the fudge, man. Just because someone doesn’t use grammar and punctuation correctly doesn’t mean they’re Muslim, it just means they’re too darn lazy to take the time to do a spellcheck. In that case, you’re Muslim too, since you refuse to use grammar properly.

Fourth.
Debbie, please refrain in the future from posting such biased pieces of poop. You didn’t even watch the SOTU, so how would you know what you’re talking about? Please look from all prospectives before you speak. You’re giving Israelis and Americans both a very bad image.

Sabra on January 26, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    Our sabra is a yorid. Having failed to repel Islam in Israel, he comes to the US and advocates for it here.

    skzion on January 27, 2011 at 6:32 pm

Mr. Grant,

I’m actually Jewish, and my girlfriend is agnostic. Sorry to disappoint you. I’d love to continue to debate with you, as I believe such dialogue is important to the health and vibrancy of our nation, but you seem completely irrational and closed to rational arguments. This debate should be respectful, not as dirty and rude as it’s rapidly becoming. So I apologize, to anyone I may have offended, and I hope that you all continue to be conscientious of the feelings of others as well.

Thank you weezlyismyking for a rational, thoughtful point. With your acceptance for others, you and Sabra are showing true support for America.

tractorplaneguitar on January 26, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    In Islam, there are other important texts besides the Quran, particularly the numerous collections of hadith, or putative records of what Muhammed said and did during his lifetime. The most reliable collections of hadith are considered to be those by the compilers Muslim and al-Bukari. The numerous and repetitive anti-Jewish passages in the Quran (have you ever tried to read it?) are supplemented and clarified by many of the hadiths, underscoring the inherently – and vehemently – antisemitic nature of Islam, reflecting Muhammed’s Jew-hatred, which reaches genocidal levels in the hadith I will cite here, which is found in several variants in the collections of hadith by both Muslim and al-Bukhari: Narrated Abu Huraira: (The Prophet avowed that) Judgment Day will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry out: “O Muslim! O Servant of Allah! There is a Jew hiding behind me – come and kill him! Only the gharqad tree will remain silent, for it is the tree of the Jews.” (Sahih Muslim, Book 41, Number 6985)
    This hadith is incorporated into the Hamas charter, attesting to its avowed, and religiously based, goal of destroying Israel and its citizens. For Muslims to hate Jews is Sunnah, or part of orthodox, mainstream Islamic tradition, derived from the believing Muslim’s obligation to emulate the behavior, beliefs, and attitudes of Muhammed. Jew-hatred is a condition instilled in all believing Muslims, although, certainly, the intensity of such hatred will necessary vary among individual Muslims. But the point is that Islam obligates its faithful to hate Jews, and to view them as despised by Allah; this is implied in the very first Sura, or chapter of the Koran, where there is a reference to those who have incurred Allah’s wrath, and those who have lost their way, straying from the Straight Path. The latter are considered to be Christians, but the former, the ones who have infuriated Allah, are identified by most mainstream Muslim exegetes as the Jews. Should those who embrace such a belief system – inherently antisemitic, anti-Christian, and hostile to anyone not a Muslim – be admitted and welcomed into our society? You are naive, and your naivete and willingness to tolerate those who would destroy you is why I am pessimistic about our survival as a nation. There are too many like you who simply do not understand.

    commonsense on January 26, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    TPG, Noam Chomsky is also Jewish (allegedly). How is this relevant?

    skzion on January 27, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    TPG, Chomsky and Soros are also, Halachically, Jewish. So what?

    skzion on January 27, 2011 at 6:54 pm

The expert on Judaism, Christianity and all things muslim named ‘tractorplaneguitar’ (aka douchebag) who gets his information from ‘The B.O. Hussein New World Order Dictionary/Encyclopedia of Revisionist History’ says:
“You yourself pointed out that 19 of them attacked us on 9/11 – NINETEEN. Out of MILLIONS worldwide.”

Hmmm, you know, gotta give you credit.
Good catch there, you’re right.
It was actually millions of muslims that attacked us on 9/11 killing nearly 3000 Americans. They just had 19 volunteers do the dirty work.
Does that work better for ya?
See TPG, being the nice guy I am, when everyone here said “you ain’t shit” I stood up for you and said “Yes he Is!”

Face it, everything Islam “invented” was stolen from the very civilizations it destroyed. As for contributions to the modern world, those usually just blow up in their face.

theShadow on January 26, 2011 at 6:29 pm

“I did not watch tonight’s Barack Hussein Obama STFU. I mean SOTU–State of the Union. I was too busy watching a screening of “The Rite,” starring Anthony Hopkins, which I know had far better acting. But I hear that the most “memorable” lines of his speech included lectures about gays in the military and how “American Muslims are part of the American family.” It’s funny how he didn’t tell American Muslims that gays (and Jews and Blacks and non-Muslims) are a part of the American family. That would be “intolerant” and “offensive,” right? Frankly, since I’ve been the victim of several legitimate, anti-Semitic death, rape, and torture threats . . . ALL of them from Muslims, I’d like to know when Barry Hussein O will lecture Muslims that Jews are part of the American family and always have been, well before any Muslims slithered onto American shores.”

BEST PARAGRAPH I’ve read all day!!

THOUSANDS of AMERICAN JEWS gave their lives for the ongoing freedom of the AMERICAN REPUBLIC…most notably in WW I and WW II…but also in the KOREAN WAR, VIETNAM, the GULF WAR, and the IRAQ WAR.

For anyone to suggest, or believe, that American Muslims have made a contribution to American society…that is on par with what American Jews have given through the centuries…is simply a bold-faced lie.

US Muslims may be part of the American family…but their contribution to the Republic has been meagre.

They’ll never be able to catch up with the Jewish contribution. Never.

The Canadien on January 26, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    Well said-Canadien.
    Straight and to the point…I like that. Although I’m going to add a few things…..

    Having traveled all over the country, residing in several states, along with my extensive travels abroad I have noted some interesting things along the way.
    Every state across our Republic is filled with gravestones that date back hundreds of years, and in those small rural towns that the settlers established you will see Crosses, The Star of David, and interestingly enough, the Pentacle, or Triquetra, representing our Wiccan brethren. These are our forefathers and mothers who shaped and built this country on the backs of their sweat and brow. What I have never seen across this nation is a Muslim Crescent and Moon symbol adorn any headstone of our past.
    Muslims may be a part of America, but they have sacrificed nothing to its existence. To suggest that they somehow fought against the English for the Freedom of this country, or died in the Civil War is akin to Ahmadinijad declaring the holocaust didn’t happen.
    It has only been within the last 20 years that Muslims have infected our Country. They lie cheat steal and have absorbed every waking hour of news in this County for the past 10 years. There hasn’t been a single day where some news organization isn’t commenting on another Muslim story…It never ends….It’s not even the fact that Odumbo said Muslims are a part of the American Family….Quite frankly who gives a shit. He not only left out every other nationality, creed, and sexual preference, but the very idea of mentioning Muslims at all in the STFU is obscene. For the past four years all we’ve heard from this weasel and the Liberal Left is The American’s who built this country are Racists and Evil and the relative new comers to our shores the Muslims are the real American Family…..Again, its obscene.

    wolf2012 on January 27, 2011 at 11:19 am

The Shadow,

I never claimed to be an expert on everything. I also don’t feel the need to call any of you names to validate my beliefs. Thanks for standing up for me, though. Sarcasm is always appreciated.

tractorplaneguitar on January 26, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    I apologize for calling you a douche. You are really a pussy.

    Jonathan Grant on January 27, 2011 at 1:13 am

    TPG, commonsense (January 26, 2011 at 7:00 pm) wrote a devastating response to you without calling you a single name. You have not replied. Indeed, you have been shown to be wrong in your empirical claims and even in your understanding of what the Islamic canon is (as commonsense points out, the Koran is not the totality of Islam; this totality includes the authoritative hadiths and the authoritative biographies of Mo).

    weezlyismyking, I have already given you a reading list.

    Many of us are tired of teaching Islam 101 over and over again to impudent new students who are sure that they know more than the teacher. These students pose as morally superior and wise, but they are neither. It is time you educate yourselves.

    skzion on January 27, 2011 at 6:49 pm

mr. grant,
your incredible maturity backs up the validity of your arguments.

weezlyismyking on January 27, 2011 at 11:52 am

To Skzion: I’m sorry for not replying to you or to commonsense sooner. Honestly, I think this argument is going in circles, and none of us stand to benefit from constant arguing when in the end we’re on the same side, but because you asked nicely.

To commonsense: thank you for your response – I’m no expert on the Koran or on Islamic teachings, so thank you for your facts, and as Skzion said, for your politeness. I respectfully disagree, though, on the inherent anti-Semitism in Islam; I know many Muslims who are perfectly fine with their Jewish friends and peers. I realize the radicals hate us, but we have our radicals as well, and as a Jew, I can tell you that there’s no way I follow all 613 mitzvot all the time. What I’m saying is that just because someone is Muslim, does not always necessarily mean that they hate us and hate America.

Also, you said this: [You are naive, and your naivete and willingness to tolerate those who would destroy you is why I am pessimistic about our survival as a nation.] Again, I respectfully disagree. Naivete is dangerous, but so is intolerance and I’ll admit, it’s hard to strike a balance between the two. But I tolerate those who are loyal American citizens, and happen to be Muslim, while I don’t tolerate terrorism. That’s as close to a balance as I can get. However, your insight on this is appreciated.

tractorplaneguitar on January 28, 2011 at 12:29 am

    TPG, you say, “I respectfully disagree, though, on the inherent anti-Semitism in Islam; I know many Muslims who are perfectly fine with their Jewish friends and peers. I realize the radicals hate us, but we have our radicals as well…”

    I forgot who said “you are entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts.” You are wrong on the facts. That some Muslims say they are perfectly fine with certain Jews means precisely nothing. You have already been shown that the doctrine is soaked with anti-Semitism. Furthermore, not only could your friends be lying about what they think of you (and almost certainly are), but they have lied about Islam to you, which is why you deny that Mo was a pedophile:

    “Whether you agree or disagree with his religion, Mohammed is NOT a pedophile, or evil in any way. Please find me evidence of pedophilia anywhere in Islamic teaching.”

    Please! Not only are you no expert on Islam (whereas commensense and I are), but you do not even know such basic things as the age of Mo’s “favorite” wife (his “child bride”)!

    You cannot tolerate Islam any more than you can tolerate Nazism or any other racialist totalitarian ideology. A Muslim in name only is a Nazi in name only: worthy of scorn and deep suspicion. A believing Muslim, of course, is far worse. Islam cannot be tolerated in civilized society. It’s time you learn it and stop with the content-free ruminations.

    skzion on January 28, 2011 at 6:17 pm

      Skzion, you are also entitled to your opinions, but not to your own facts. The religion of Islam as a whole is not the equivilant of Nazism, and to equate an ordinary peaceful Muslim with a Nazi is just plain wrong.

      The sad thing is, skzion, you and I are on the same side. I’m as pro-Israel as anyone – you should see the REAL anti-Semetic and anti-Israel activists. But, as it stands, I think we should just agree to disagree on this one.

      tractorplaneguitar on January 28, 2011 at 11:44 pm

        TPG, I have provided evidence and argument on the “muslims doubling” blog.

        Your reputation here is precarious. If you care to be taken seriously, you will respond forthwith.

        skzion on January 30, 2011 at 1:44 pm

For everyone, let’s straighten this out.

Organized religion is about a) control of a group of people, uniting them in a common cause; b) the triumph of one group of people over another; and c) the legitimization of a group of people through demonizing another group. If you’re a tyrant back in ancient times, organizing faith would be the best form of crowd control that any money could buy.

If people took religion seriously in ancient times, then a) the Hebrews would`ve subjugated (if not exterminated) the Philistines and the Canaanites (hence, no Islam); b) the Xtians would`ve converted all the Jews (hence, no antisemitism); or c) the Muslims would`ve enslaved everone (hence, no 9-11, no Whitey).

Thankfully (or unfortunately), the Enlightenment took care of all the pettiness on which most organized religions based their legitimacies. Sadly, it appeared that the most skillful of tyrants in the ancient Arab world have used Islam to keep the “ìnfidels” and their ideas at bay. If there were any ideas why the Crusades failed to marginalize Islam, it was because of the way the caliphs wielded their leadership and control through faith – “Whitey’s going to kill us – Allahu Ackbar or die”.

Most of the world – at least those parts touched by the hand of European Secularism – have discovered reason, for better of worse. I have learned to look beyond colour and faith to find both good and bad in everyone. But if I were a Fascist Islamist, I would’ve done anything and everything to make Whitey by bitch, because my Caliph told me so.

In other words, in Fascist Islam, reason is a sin. God is Great.

Thank God I’m agnostic! Amen.

The Reverend Jacques on January 29, 2011 at 9:12 am

Oops… correct a typo…

“But if I were a Fascist Islamist, I would’ve done anything and everything to make Whitey my bitch, because my Caliph told me so.”

I admit. I was bloviating. My bad. Peace.

The Reverend Jacques on January 29, 2011 at 9:27 am

Whatever next? “US Jews part of the American Family” ?

How dare Obama say something like this. OK, so freedom of speech for racist websites like this, but seriously.

Nick on January 30, 2011 at 2:10 am

What non-Muslim scholars said about Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him)

Nepolean Bonaparte – Quoted in Christian Cherfils BONAPARTE ET ISLAM (PARIS 1914)
“I hope the time is not far off when I shall be able to unite all the wise and educated men of all the countries and establish a uniform regime based on the principles of Qur’an which alone are true and which alone can lead men to happiness.”

M.K.Gandhi, YOUNG INDIA, 1924
“…I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the prophet, the scrupulous regard for his pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and his own mission. These, and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every trouble.” YOUNG INDIA, 1924

Lamartine – Histoire de la Turquie, Paris 1854, Vol II, pp. 276-77:
“If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astounding results are the three criteria of human genius, who could dare to compare any great man in modern history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples and dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then inhabited world; and more than that, he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and souls… the forbearance in victory, his ambition, which was entirely devoted to one idea and in no manner striving for an empire; his endless prayers, his mystic conversations with God, his death and his triumph after death; all these attest not to an imposture but to a firm conviction which gave him the power to restore a dogma. This dogma was twofold, the unit of God and the immateriality of God; the former telling what God is, the latter telling what God is not; the one overthrowing false gods with the sword, the other starting an idea with words.
“Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?”

Edward Gibbon and Simon Ocklay – History of the Saracen Empire, London, 1870, p. 54:
“It is not the propagation but the permanency of his religion that deserves our wonder, the same pure and perfect impression which he engraved at Mecca and Medina is preserved, after the revolutions of twelve centuries by the Indian, the African and the Turkish proselytes of the Koran…The Mahometans have uniformly withstood the temptation of reducing the object of their faith and devotion to a level with the senses and imagination of man. ‘I believe in One God and Mahomet the Apostle of God’, is the simple and invariable profession of Islam. The intellectual image of the Deity has never been degraded by any visible idol; the honors of the prophet have never transgressed the measure of human virtue, and his living precepts have restrained the gratitude of his disciples within the bounds of reason and religion.”

Rev. Bosworth Smith, Mohammed and Mohammadanism, London 1874, p. 92:
“He was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without Pope’s pretensions, Caesar without the legions of Caesar: without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue; if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by the right divine, it was Mohammed, for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports.”

Annie Besant, The Life and Teachings of Muhammad, Madras 1932, p. 4:
“It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great Prophet of Arabia, who knows how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to you I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel whenever I re-read them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty Arabian teacher.”

Montgomery Watt, Mohammad at Mecca, Oxford 1953, p. 52:
“His readiness to undergo persecutions for his beliefs, the high moral character of the men who believed in him and looked up to him as leader, and the greatness of his ultimate achievement – all argue his fundamental integrity. To suppose Muhammad an impostor raises more problems than it solves. Moreover, none of the great figures of history is so poorly appreciated in the West as Muhammad.”

James A. Michener, ‘Islam: The Misunderstood Religion’ in Reader’s Digest (American Edition), May 1955, pp. 68-70:
“Muhammad, the inspired man who founded Islam, was born about A.D. 570 into an Arabian tribe that worshipped idols. Orphaned at birth, he was always particularly solicitous of the poor and needy, the widow and the orphan, the slave and the downtrodden. At twenty he was already a successful businessman, and soon became director of camel caravans for a wealthy widow. When he reached twenty-five, his employer, recognizing his merit, proposed marriage. Even though she was fifteen years older, he married her, and as long as she lived, remained a devoted husband.
“Like almost every major prophet before him, Muhammad fought shy of serving as the transmitter of God’s word, sensing his own inadequacy. But the angel commanded ‘Read’. So far as we know, Muhammad was unable to read or write, but he began to dictate those inspired words which would soon revolutionize a large segment of the earth: “There is one God.”
“In all things Muhammad was profoundly practical. When his beloved son Ibrahim died, an eclipse occurred, and rumors of God’s personal condolence quickly arose. Whereupon Muhammad is said to have announced, ‘An eclipse is a phenomenon of nature. It is foolish to attribute such things to the death or birth of a human-being.’
“At Muhammad’s own death an attempt was made to deify him, but the man who was to become his administrative successor killed the hysteria with one of the noblest speeches in religious history: ‘If there are any among you who worshipped Muhammad, he is dead. But if it is God you worshipped, He lives forever.’”

Michael H. Hart, The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History, New York: Hart Publishing Company, Inc. 1978, p. 33:
“My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world’s most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level.”
Sarojini Naidu, the famous Indian poetess says – S. Naidu, Ideals of Islam, Speeches and Writings, Madaras, 1918
“It was the first religion that preached and practiced democracy; for, in the mosque, when the call for prayer is sounded and worshippers are gathered together, the democracy of Islam is embodied five times a day when the peasant and king kneel side by side and proclaim: ‘God Alone is Great’… “

Thomas Caryle – Heros and Heros Worship
“how one man single-handedly, could weld warring tribes and Bedouins into a most powerful and civilized nation in less than two decades?”
“…The lies (Western slander) which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man (Muhammed) are disgraceful to ourselves only…How one man single-handedly, could weld warring tribes and wandering Bedouins into a most powerful and civilized nation in less than two decades….A silent great soul, one of that who cannot but be earnest. He was to kindle the world; the world’s Maker had ordered so.”

Stanley Lane-Poole – Table Talk of the Prophet
“He was the most faithful protector of those he protected, the sweetest and most agreeable in conversation. Those who saw him were suddenly filled with reverence; those who came near him loved him; they who described him would say, “I have never seen his like either before or after.” He was of great taciturnity, but when he spoke it was with emphasis and deliberation, and no one could forget what he said…”

George Bernard Shaw – The Genuine Islam Vol.No.8, 1936.
“I believe if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring much needed peace and happiness.
I have studied him – the man and in my opinion is far from being an anti–Christ. He must be called the Savior of Humanity.
I have prophesied about the faith of Mohammad that it would be acceptable the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today.”

Levinson on April 21, 2012 at 12:43 am

HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY QUESTION WJAT DOES JEWISH, MUSLIMS, AND CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS HAS IN COMMON? Given Credit To Those Due?
First voyage
In 1492 when Columbus arrived here, he was strongly influenced by the writings of 13th century Arab geographer Al-Idrissi, who served as an advisor to King Roger of Sicily. Columbus arrived with Al-Idrissi’s book and Muslim captains, crews, and translators. He had two Muslim captains: Martin Alonso Pinzon and his brother Vicente Yanex Pinzon. The Pinzon family was related to Abuzayan Muhammad III, the Moroccan Sultan of Marinid dynasty (1196-1465) (ibid).
On the evening of 3 August 1492, Columbus departed from Palos de la Frontera with three ships; one larger carrack, Santa María, nicknamed Gallega (the Galician), and two smaller caravels, Pinta (the Painted) and Santa Clara, nicknamed Niña after her owner Juan Niño of Moguer.[36] They were property of Juan de la Cosa and the Pinzón brothers (Martín Alonso and Vicente Yáñez), but the monarchs forced the Palos inhabitants to contribute to the expedition. Columbus first sailed to the Canary Islands, which were owned by Castile, where he restocked the provisions and made repairs. After stopping over in Gran Canaria, he finally departed from San Sebastián de La Gomera on 6 September, for what turned out to be a five-week voyage across the ocean.
A lookout on the Pinta, Rodrigo de Triana (also known as Juan Rodriguez Bermeo, and Jewish at that time), spotted land about 2 a.m. on the morning of October 12, and immediately alerted the rest of the crew with a shout. Thereupon, the captain of the Pinta, Juan Alonso Pinzón, verified the discovery and alerted Columbus by firing a lombard.[37] Columbus later maintained that he himself had already seen a light on the land a few hours earlier, thereby claiming for himself the lifetime pension promised by Ferdinand and Isabella to the first person to sight land.[38]

Levinson on April 21, 2012 at 12:59 am

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