February 5, 2011, - 9:00 pm

So Much For Countries “Liking US Better” w/ Obama

By Debbie Schlussel

As longtime readers know, I’ve never been one for getting the other countries of the world to “like us better.”  I’d prefer they fear and respect us, neither of which happens when we pander to them.  If they hates us, so what?  I hate them.  We’re the United States of America.  They need to be worried about whether we like them, not the other way around.  Regardless, one of the big campaign themes and mantras of Barack Obama and his supporters was that his election would make the world like  us better.  Like I said, that shouldn’t be our goal, but it hasn’t even happened.  In fact, Barack Obama–while concentrating on pandering to our enemies, like Egypt and the rest of the Islamic world–has managed to  deliberately piss off and betray one of our closest allies.  Hey, maybe he’s preparing for when the UK becomes Muslim-dominated, and just wanted to start the process ahead of time.

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Um, how can we expect our allies to keep confidential the intelligence we share with them, when it’s not a two-way street and it’s shared with one of the most untrustworthy and shaky of nations?  More from the Wikileaks treasure trove of ObamAssity (TM):

The US secretly agreed to give the Russians sensitive information on Britain’s nuclear deterrent to persuade them to sign a key treaty. . . .

Information about every Trident missile the US supplies to Britain will be given to Russia as part of an arms control deal signed by President Barack Obama next week.

Defence analysts claim the agreement risks undermining Britain’s policy of refusing to confirm the exact size of its nuclear arsenal.

The fact that the Americans used British nuclear secrets as a bargaining chip also sheds new light on the so-called “special relationship”, which is shown often to be a one-sided affair by US diplomatic communications obtained by the WikiLeaks website.

Details of the behind-the-scenes talks are contained in more than 1,400 US embassy cables published to date by the Telegraph, including almost 800 sent from the London Embassy, which are published online today [Friday]. . . .

A series of classified messages sent to Washington by US negotiators show how information on Britain’s nuclear capability was crucial to securing Russia’s support for the “New START” deal.

Although the treaty was not supposed to have any impact on Britain, the leaked cables show that Russia used the talks to demand more information about the UK’s Trident missiles, which are manufactured and maintained in the US.

Washington lobbied London in 2009 for permission to supply Moscow with detailed data about the performance of UK missiles. The UK refused, but the US agreed to hand over the serial numbers of Trident missiles it transfers to Britain.

Professor Malcolm Chalmers said: “This appears to be significant because while the UK has announced how many missiles it possesses, there has been no way for the Russians to verify this. Over time, the unique identifiers will provide them with another data point to gauge the size of the British arsenal.”

Duncan Lennox, editor of Jane’s Strategic Weapons Systems, said: “They want to find out whether Britain has more missiles than we say we have, and having the unique identifiers might help them.”

While the US and Russia have long permitted inspections of each other’s nuclear weapons, Britain has sought to maintain some secrecy to compensate for the relatively small size of its arsenal.

William Hague, the Foreign Secretary, last year disclosed that “up to 160” warheads are operational at any one time, but did not confirm the number of missiles.

I wrote about a similarly boneheaded warheads disclosure, last year, by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.  It’s a contest between our idiots and the UK’s idiots.  And we, the people, are the losers, no matter who wins.

The whole “New START” treaty is fraught with problems. Not only shouldn’t we have signed it, but it’s just complete idiocy to share our allies’ secrets with untrustworthy Russia in order to secure their signature on that worthless piece of paper. It’s simply ObamAsinine (TM).

Reader Worry01:

I can see why more countries are becoming anti-American, including our former friends.

It appears that Mr. Obama will say or do anything for very short-term gain. However, such policies in the long run make our enemies contemptuous of us, while at the same time damaging, if not destroying, allied relationships.

Also, what has Russia expressed other than derision at our antics?

Good question.

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25 Responses

Czechs, Poles, British, Hondurans…did I miss any?

Russian politics is mostly unknown here in USA, but I urge peeps to study it..especially the Putin years.

One of my favourite stories is about how Russia (the Gubmint) allegedly blew up an Apt. Blg. and covered it up. I always wanna tell “Truthers” to look into THAT in lieu of wasting their time on as a supposed 9/11 “Inside” Job.

As far as Cap’n Zero goes…he is a destroyer.

It’s not even that well hidden…but boy, are so many Yanks blind. It’s depressing.

Skunky on February 5, 2011 at 9:22 pm

Probably his intent from the beginning. If he considers 60% or more of Americans his “enemy,” he may as well ensure the rest of the world feels the same way (including those countries that at least respected us before). Except Canada. My snowbird “neighbours” friggin worship Obama. But I guess they are still afraid of Russia. Pansies.

peter on February 5, 2011 at 9:57 pm

This business of getting other countries to like us – I’ve always wondered what that means. The average person on the street or @ home in countries like Bolivia, Laos, India, Burundi, Cameroon, et al (pick any random non-Muslim country) doesn’t care one way or another about America. So when people say ‘International Community’, who on earth do they mean?

The pointy-headed diplomats from all these countries, who are a fraternity, regardless of the interests of their country. They are a class unto themselves, w/ no accountability towards their people, regardless of whether they’re batting for a democracy or an autocratic regime. So to claim that they like or dislike the US b’cos of its invasion of Iraq, or support to Israel, or whatever, is ludicrous: their diplomatic establishments – every country has one – are the ones who make the decisions unilaterally based on the friends they make in exotic locales like New York, Geneva, Brussels, et al.

So when people talk about having other countries like us, who exactly do they mean? Certainly not the people. Of course, the case is different w/ Muslims, since they look @ 9/11 and everything beyond as a Jihad b/w themselves & America, so they’d hate America, but despite any of US foreign policy. The reason Muslims hate America is that they hate Americans!

Infidel Pride on February 5, 2011 at 10:15 pm

It’s all lies, Deb. If you don’t trust wikipedia, don’t trust wikileaks.

Norman Blitzer on February 5, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    Blitzer, you’re so boring. And unreachable, but I have to continue to point it out because it is so important that other dopes on your side see that they are in dopeville when they sling your dumb kinda ideology. You hit and run and never add to the debate ‘cuz ya can’t. Dig?

    Here is something to the Norman who’s posts I always learn from. Here ya go…

    Alexander (TN)
    Bennett (UT) – retiring
    Brown (MA)
    Cochran (MS)
    Collins (ME)
    Gregg (NH) – retiring
    Isakson (GA)
    Johanns (NE)
    Lugar (IN)
    Murkowski (AK)
    Snowe (ME)
    Voinovich (OH) – retiring

    These RINO tools voted with the Dhimmi Dems for START!

    Skunky on February 6, 2011 at 10:48 am

Debbie, don’t blame this on Obama.

The new START Treaty could have never have been ratified in December if 13 Republican RINOs led by Dick Lugar of Indiana, had not joined the Democrats to make it the law of the land.

As usual, the Republicans turn to be more willing to risk our national security in order for us to be liked by Moscow.

I agree – its a dumb policy but think again please if you think its only the Democrats who avidly pursue it.

NormanF on February 5, 2011 at 11:26 pm

This was the lead story Friday evening on Drudge, now it’s nowhere on the board. Didn’t see it on FOX-Snooze – You know, the “conservative” news outlet.

McCain was saying the other day “…I think it’s pretty clear that the president has really pivoted to a much more centrist position…” I’ve already relayed part of a response e-mail I received, from Kaye Bailey Hutchison, in a post yesterday where she says something similarly nauseating. Why haven’t they retracted these statements yet? A “centrist” is not someone who would divulge the nuclear secrets of the country’s most trusted ally to a nation like Russia, or any other nation for that matter.

It will be interesting Monday to see what the conservative/republican print media have to say, if anything, about this revelation. It will be even more interesting to hear what talk radio will have to say.

CornCoLeo on February 6, 2011 at 12:01 am

    To have someone ‘like you’ you have to be in agreement with them, not vice versa, and no one respects a phony. It’s the one who agrees with YOU that you can really call an ally.
    So we have a bit of a problem making people like us (so who cares), but making our allies hate us, well that’s a piece of cake!

    What is Obama’s centrist position anyway? That he and some RINO’s like McCain found common ground with the Left in destroying this country? I prefer it when they’re busy tearing at each others throats…much less damage to the nation.

    theShadow on February 6, 2011 at 12:10 pm

There is precedent for this kind of betrayal. In 1979, Jimmy Carter gave Israel’s nuclear secrets to Egypt as a “reward” for signing a peace treaty. The parallels and similarity between these two Presidents grow with each passing day.

I question whether “closest ally” really describes the U.K. but they are certainly an ally who deserve our trust; not our betrayal. This kind of behavior has been going on for years. It precedes the current Administration. Let us no longer scratch our heads wondering why some of our other allies don’t cooperate the way we would like.

On another note, please don’t buy into the LIB media’s claim that the Cairo protesters represent “the will of the people”. There are between 1 million and 2 million homeless people in Cairo. If a group of people decide to protest against poverty to the government, there are over a million people “on call” to join them. In the mean time, Cairo has 15 million people. Most were probably content to cope with the status quo.

Here again, we are demonstrating the kind of betrayal that erodes the confidence our allies have in the U.S.A. All it takes is for the Leftist media to make a convincing claim that “everybody says so” and U.S. policy quickly reacts whether it’s true or not.

There is NO Santa Claus on February 6, 2011 at 3:36 am

I like your attitude. You should be made Secretary Of State in the next conservative administration. After you, I recommend John Bolton.

Globe Warmer on February 6, 2011 at 5:23 am

I wonder what would have happened if the thirteen colonies had based their policies on whether the British liked them.

Little Al on February 6, 2011 at 8:07 am

“I hate them. We’re the United States of America. They need to be worried about whether we like them, not the other way around.”

Such a typical right wing response. Contrary to popular belief, everyone doesn’t hate the USA, but they do dislike vitriolic right wing mouthpeices who represent a minority of Americans, there is a difference.

If people don’t like Debbie Schlussel and her ilk it doesn’t mean they hate America, I think these right wingers really think a lot of themselves if that is the case.

What a waste of time, to spend every hour of your professional life attacking the half of Americans who vote Democrat or attacking the whole of Islam. An unproductive member of society does that… creates nothing. I guess though being a professional right wing whiner pays well in the US, there seems to be so many paid to do it. Reminds me of the the Jim Bakkers of the world, they have such an easy flock to fleece.

James on February 6, 2011 at 11:05 am

    LOL, Jimmy-Jam. Keep tellin’ yo’ bad-self that.

    Pay no attention to what your beloved Prez has done to the country for the past two years. Glad to see you like it. We appreciate knowing you’re a no-hoper.

    Skunky on February 6, 2011 at 11:18 am

    Dear James,

    I was a New Zealand Permanent Resident in 2007. The National Party was thibnking of recruiting me to run as the candidate from Rotorua before I got fed up and left. So, let me tell you this:

    Most foreigners I’ve met know Jack about the USA. Most of the world is a filthy cesspool that our ancestors fled from after correct analysis. Debbie’s lack of concern for their attitudes is EXACTLY what is required, and correct. We have a much better thing going in the USA than they have overseas.

    Occam's Tool on February 6, 2011 at 11:06 pm

Re:

Debbie:

“I’d prefer they fear and respect us, neither of which happens when we pander to them. If they hates us, so what? I hate them. We’re the United States of America. They need to be worried about whether we like them, not the other way around.”

Amen!

JeffE on February 6, 2011 at 11:42 am

Don’t blame Obama? His entire goal has been to weaken America. Being from Indonesia, Hawaii, & his father from Kenya he is extremely anti-colonial and deems the US and UK as colonist nations. Is it any wonder why he gave the queen an ipod and wrongly formatted DVDs? Or took the statue of Winston Churchill out of the white house? He told France and Egypt they were our closest allies? We all know its Israel & UK. Oh and James, if the right-wing is the minority, what happened last november???

jdiz on February 6, 2011 at 12:10 pm

There are more questions. Was this protocol announced to the Senate prior to its vote? Was the Senate and House Armed Services Committees made aware of this secret annex as is required by law? Are there other secret annexes? That has particular concern given the debate regarding missile defense. What did we get in exchange for selling out an ally?

pat on February 6, 2011 at 1:13 pm

I’m with Globe Warmer – on the Debbie & John Bolton team. And I really do like his/her name “Globe Warmer” & wished I’d thought of it first.

Cat K on February 6, 2011 at 1:33 pm

As a British citizen, I’m astonished by the Obama Administration’s betrayal of my country. I have many American friends and like America; however, it’s my opinion that the so called ‘special relationship’, one-sided as it often was, is now well and truly dead. Obama has made this clear with his comments to Sarkozy and now this.

Phil on February 6, 2011 at 2:22 pm

We are not the babysitter of the world and are not to please the Saudis who are spreading all sorts of dissent against us. They eat bread from our hands and they bite them as if they were rabid dogs. I do not care less who loves me and who loves me not. This is not a valentine day world. This is a world of where is my share,period. You want me to help you, you better don’t do anything to hurt me because if you do you are doomed.

G. R. SCHAROUBIM on February 6, 2011 at 4:41 pm

Its easier for Obama if everyone likes us. This way he wont come up against any challenges from any countries fearing us because then he’d show everyone how incompetent he really-cos he doesnt have a clue

haley on February 6, 2011 at 9:19 pm

“It is good to be loved; Far better to be feared”–Machiavelli

Shootist on February 7, 2011 at 7:34 am

Very often I have found that a few days time separating events makes one reconsider an initial action. I have reconsidered my “fade away” statement of last week. In the interim, I read George Friedman’s “THE NEXT DECADE”. Machiavelli is quoted frequently. Friends and Allies are viewed dispassionately. Several of the above Commentors would be quite surprised at Friedman’s thoughts and future projections that, quite literally, touch upon nearly every country of the world. My suggestion is to read this – Friedman is the STRATFOR guy – with a very objective mind. Open minds are like sieves, so take heed.

I have a lot of thinking to do and a lot of evaluation of a number of activities I do. Keep in mind, TANSTAAFL – THERE AIN’T NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH. International relations have to abide by that rule. My next read will be “THE PRINCE”.

ps. Thank you, Debbie, for making me think – sometimes more than I wish to – and for being a class act in a harsh world.

Dennis on February 7, 2011 at 12:34 pm

Phil, hold off for a while, maybe the idiots who voted for President traitor in the last election will wake up before the next election and we can elect someone who appreciates allies instead of betraying them. We cannot afford 4 more years with a muslim sympathizer at the helm…

CJ on February 7, 2011 at 12:38 pm

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