April 27, 2011, - 4:51 pm

Is Today’s Obama Birth Certificate Real . . . or Clumsy Adobe Photoshop?

By Debbie Schlussel

As I said earlier today, I was never a “birther” on Barack Obama’s birth certificate, just an agnostic–meaning I didn’t know either way if Barack Obama was born here, but was open to proof of either point of view and wondered why he would never release the official certificate for public inspection.  I never said I know for certain that what he showed today is the real thing.  I don’t know.  I’m no document expert and never claimed to be. I said it likely wouldn’t convince anyone.

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Reader “Super Leone”–a graphic artist who knows something about photoshopping documents–doesn’t believe it’s the real thing, and sends the photos and comment, below:

I’m the graphics guy [who has written form time to time]. If you open in adobe illustrator and release clipping mask you can see the layers. These people are idiots. They should have scanned the fake instead of exporting it from AI [Adobe Illustrator].

Check out the graphics layering he found . . .

 

Is Obama Birth Cert a Case of Adobe Illustrator Photoshop?
What do you think?

I still say, the real solid evidence of fakery is his phony Selective Service Registration document on file with the feds. That’s evidence that the Prez either was in on or knew about a forgery of federal documents in 2008 and lied about it in various television interviews.

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Mr. Obama does like to whine so: http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2011/04/27/obama-has-better-stuff-to-do-than-birth-certificate-sideshows/

He brought this on himself. Is is an example of his not shouldering his responsibility for a mistake. Barack should have given birth to this document in 2008, and the issue would have died a natural death. Of course, Barack Obama has difficulty doing many things naturally, such as wearing flag lapel pins or taking the trouble to do a boilerplate Easter greeting the other day. Instead, his most effusive remarks on religious holidays emanate from greetings to the celebrants of Kwanzaa and Ramadan.

Worry01 on April 27, 2011 at 5:05 pm

The so called birth certificate is as phony as everything else about Obama. He obviously thinks we are all idiots who will accept it. Of course enough idiots elected him so he might be right. Just use a little common sense. Why spend 2 million (probably taxpayer money) to stop the release of a document and then release after two years that document which apparently corroborates everything Obama has claimed. Of course his supporters will come up with some wonderful sounding b/s to explain this.

Jerry on April 27, 2011 at 5:45 pm

“We do not have time for this silliness.” He sounds more like a second grade school marm (teacher, usually single) than the President of a once great nation. In fact, Deb, can you photoshop Obama in 1890’s style dress while he’s wagging his finger lecturing us?

What a wussy!

Jonathan E. Grant on April 27, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    Jon, does it matter?

    Its not his birth, its his worldview and policies that are the greatest danger to this country.

    The birth certificate issue is an irrelevant sideshow.

    NormanF on April 27, 2011 at 7:40 pm

AS much as I abhor Obama, there are bigger fish to fry. We have a world on fire, Mexico is dissolving before our eyes and we are wasting our resources and our young men/women in Afghanistan. Will Obama defend our own soil when the attack comes from our southern border? That’s the bigger issue!

JeffT on April 27, 2011 at 6:24 pm

I’m re-posting my post in the other thread because it seems not many are privy to Jack Cashill (who forensically proved William Ayers wrote “Dreams of My Father” and that Jon Favreau (not the actor) prolly wrote “The Audacity of Hope”) and his foray into the BC issue.

Too bad. I have never seen anyone do so much work and be so universally ignored. Sad. And Donald Trump is always on centre stage!
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You bet I am a “birther” if only for the fact that the lying sack of shiite lies constantly and that he has not been able to produce it (along with college transcripts) and that the matter of who his dad really is is not clear for those following the clues.

And yet AGAIN he has produced a certificate of live birth and NOT a BC. They are NOT the same. I have NEVER presented a certificate of live birth EVER. I always get a BC when I lose mine and hafta go to the Town Hall.

Why is his fraudulent SSN from someone else AND from Connecticutt? He isn’t from Conn.

I have no idea what JC will say in his book about to drop, but I am with another JC….Jack Cashill and his theory in “Deconstructing Obama”. What he does know is that there was NO marriage between Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. There was no great love affair. He was off to Harvard Uni TWO WEEKS after BO was born.

I believe her weirdo Dad asked BOsenior to cop to being the Daddy-O. But he wasn’t. I believe Frank Marshall Davis was because he loved to bed white chicks especially and was pals with her weird dad. Oh, and those nude photos of Obama’s Mum (FMD was a porno photographer and a lover of jazz music) really make Cashill’s theory VERY feasible. As well as BO’s poem “Pop” (written by FMD FOR BO because BO was a tragic poet and FMD, perv he was, was a gifted poet) make it even more so.

Skunky on April 27, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    Right on. What you have written is exactly what I concluded mid-2008, and nothing has come to light since to change my mind. As to BO,Sr’s motive, what’s another wife for the muslim/atheist, and an American wife could give him the credentials he may have needed in the future if he wanted to extend his stateside stay. FMD was a perv, and both Stanley’s Father and daughter were just too weird and perverse to explain. BO, Sr looks nothing like BO, who looks every bit the offspring of FMD.

    ThankYou on April 27, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    I still think Barry’s real father could be Malcolm X. Malcolm X did visit Seattle when Stanley Ann was there. He could have had sex with her then. Barry looks and speaks like Malcolm X. The family of Malcolm X all look related to Barry. Too bad someone could not get a hold of Barry’s DNA to check out if he is indeed related to Malcolm X’s family.

    check out this: http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?page_id=284

    Sasha on April 28, 2011 at 4:11 am

      Dear Souphead: Gee whiz! Maybe somebody should check your DNA and find out if Robert Redford was your father. Malcolm X had 500 times the brains and balls of Obama. There’s enough to attack about Obama without resorting to nutty racist (that’s not a word I use lightly) allegations and theories.

      Miranda Rose Smith on April 28, 2011 at 6:31 am

I would ask. Why is there a need to layer the image or original long form birth certificate? I mean, I go to the county and get a photocopy that is an exact image of the original for mine. It was scanned. Are all the conversions to digital “signed” by the county person this way to validate its origin?. Seems just as clumsy as the selective service documentation.

jake49 on April 27, 2011 at 7:39 pm

OCR software does NOT strip text out of a document, it reads the text and creates a separate file, it does not strip out the text from the original document, because the original document is an image, it sends the recognised to a text file to be edited in word for example.

What it does NOT do is strip out text, covert it, blank out the original text and then convert the stripped text back into an image trying to imitate a 1961 font. If this text had been altered by by OCR it would be selectable as text not an image.

Barry Sorento on April 27, 2011 at 8:07 pm

I want to see his birth certificate. Not THAT birth certificate; the REAL birth certificate.

Doesn’t the President’s incompetent performance in office speak for itself?

There is NO Santa Claus on April 27, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    That ‘man'(?) has to be the biggest lying turd this country has ever seen in Washington DC’s Anal Orifice.
    I’d like to see the Real Birth Certificate too, but I’m afraid I’d have to add another language to my roster to be able to read it.

    theShadow on April 28, 2011 at 1:39 am

What no one has pointed out yet is that the birth certificate lists his father’s race as “African.” In 1961 his father’s race would have been specified as “Black” or “Negro.” The term “African,” used to describe the race of black people, did not come about until the 1980’s.

King David on April 27, 2011 at 9:06 pm

Another point is in a birth story the doctors name at this miracle birth was West, this poorly done document says it is Sinclair. Just as barry, his sister and the dnc could never agree at which hospital he was born at or that a couple of weeks ago the HI governor said their wasn’t one. This is just like a cheesy lifetime soap opera.

ender on April 27, 2011 at 9:26 pm

Being “graphics guy” and using AI does not mean experience with PDF printers and converters.
I found more two more ‘layers’ with white pixels within 1 minute. Sorry for ruining authority on forgery. ;)

Those ‘layers’ seems to be generated automatically by separating elements with the same brightness which have past some contrast threshold . That’s why some words are broken over different ‘layers’, and some signatures stayed with background.
Why separation at all? Better bitmap data compression and detail rendering in higher contrast.
Bitmap objects with white pixels I found have same purpose.
If AI can’t show those ‘layers’, or some forgery hunters can’t afford AI for that, try Inkscape.

gr77 on April 27, 2011 at 9:33 pm

Once a birther…..always a LOSER!

Lee in IL on April 27, 2011 at 10:13 pm

Skunky, it appears that the Americans citizens are still being fed that special mushroom mixture. His-story is just that, in the BHO’s memoirs, hastily written to confuse and lead the voters to his ballot box.

A photographic record shows Dunham sen. at the Hawaii military airforce base receiving the African university students that were sponsored by a Joseph Kennedy scholarship into the USA. Standing close by was the Kenyan, Obama sen. and two uniformed USA military personnel and others. It is alleged that Dunham sen. had dealings with the CIA and lived in Lebanon when Ann was a child and where she was schooled.

However, a ‘very different societal situation’ arose when the 17 yr old Ann fell pregnant by an African bigamist whose wife was 3 months pregnant. In 1960 wasn’t bigamy contrary to USA law and wasn’t the student Obama on an American entry visa? What follows is a lattice work of ‘ducking & diving’ by the Dunhams with name changes/adoptions/relocations/social security numbers.

Stated above is the allegation of the birth and what followed. There is of course another scenario. The father could have been Malcolm X. He was acquainted with the Dunhams in Kansas. He had produced 6 daughters with his wife, no sons. Malcolm X was by this time with the Nation of Islam and had dealings with the Communists. Kenya was a hot bed for these interactions. He had a longish sojourn in Kenya and other East African countries. A Haj to Mecca also happened.

With a large family there must have been ample financial resouces to fund all the galavanting…….

Fast forward to BHO’s friendship with Khalid Al Mansour. A You Tube is available where the young Obama & Michelle sit at the dining table before the million dollar make-over. They were being groomed by Khalid Al Mansour. He is allied with the Saudi Royals and does their bidding.

Now view http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EcC0QAd0Ug
A You Tube with Percy Sutton on Obama/2008
All of sudden Black Panther & Malcolm X’s lawyer, Percy Sutton, announces that he was instrumental in getting BHO into the Ivy league universities on the back of a request from Khalid Al Mansour.

M X died in 1965 by the time Obama went to university it was many years later. Percy Sutton’s articulation of BHO’s intellectual capabilities is an Oscar winning performance. From ‘wacky backy’ man to master of the universe with concealed records and no valid ‘lawyer’s registration’ nor for Michelle.

To-day’s birth certificate revelation is a ruse to mask ‘the full facts file’ on BHO whilst trying to make an idiot out of Donald Trump. The ‘transparency mission’ is not yet complete and Donald Trump must continue with this avenue of investigation even under ridicule. Only DNA will reveal the true father of BHO. There are plenty of subjects to draw from.

Eyes Wide Open on April 27, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    Eyes, what an interesting post. Especially the Percy Sutton angle and the Kennedy Scholarships. Both are tackeled in “Deconstructing Obama”.

    I don’t buy the Malcolm X angle BUT I am convinced Cashill is on to the Frank Marshall Davis theory. It is quite good. He and BO’s Gramps (what he called him, NOT “Pop”) were tight, he liked young, white girls, he took nude photos, there are nude photos of a young Ann Dunham and in the background there are jazz records…the type of music FMD was obsessed with and wrote books on.

    ALSO, there are happy photos of BOsen and Stanley Dunham (Gramps, not Mum) at the airport when he was to take off to Harvard Uni. Why was he so happy (in 1961!) with the baby-daddy of his young daughter leaving them two weeks after BO was born?

    I believe he asked him to say he was the Dad. They all knew FMD was and BO found out years later and had “dear old dad” write the disturbing poem (for college) “Pop” for him because BO is a crappy writer and even a more crappy poet.

    Skunky on April 28, 2011 at 10:18 am

Our own Forensic Document Lab in Virgina can make an absolutely perfect copy of any document, from any state, or any country. I once attended training conducted by a retired Secret Service agent who spent his career in counterfeiting. He displayed a stack of $100 bills that were perfect. He said even he wasn’t able to detect an imperfection. The only thing they flubbed was the serial numbers, which had not yet gone to print. For all purposes (according to him) the Colombian-American money was perfect. This is a losing issue here and we need to move on. Was he really born in Kenya? I don’t much give a shit at this point. We need to move on….

#1 Vato on April 27, 2011 at 10:28 pm

Super Leone is right! Check this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt7oi2qfxlY&feature=youtu.be

I think this is a bombshell, and we’re seeing something develop that will be worse than Watergate.

? on April 27, 2011 at 11:56 pm

Most of the media and the left (but I repeat myself) still believe that those faked TANG memos from 60 Mins against GW Bush are real.

But they’ll bite down hard on this.

P. Aaron on April 28, 2011 at 12:59 am

Adobe did the layering automatically.

The birth certificate is probably real.

The Obama people aren’t that stupid.

Scott Spiegel on April 28, 2011 at 1:50 am

I can’t stand Obama, but the reason why he wouldn’t release the document earlier is that no proof satisfies a conspiracy theorist. The “truthers” will think of something else to demand now.

Miranda Rose Smith on April 28, 2011 at 1:52 am

Let’s face it folks, he’s hiding something, that’s a no brainer. He’s just playing games to keep us all sidetracked from the real truth. I’m afraid this president is hiding a bigger lie than most of us could ever imagine.
Why else go through all this trouble?

theShadow on April 28, 2011 at 2:00 am

His father’s race would be listed as “African” because he was, well, African. He, unlike his son, was born in Kenya. “Black” or “Negro” would have been used for what is now called an “African-American”.

Dave on April 28, 2011 at 2:05 am

For two and half years the media can now put the water down. They have been carrying the water for KING HUSSEIN OBAMA at every turn calling his ‘certificate of live birth’ a ‘birth certificate’. Saying that there was no other document.

Many people who are called ‘birthers’ wanted Obama to prove himself not the other way around. The burden of proof is on public officials not the people prove to the public officials. Obama serve the people, we don’t serve him. The liberal media has demanded proof of any challenge to this fraud and now they are guilty of the lie that a certificate of live birth is equal to a birth certificate.

Water carriers can now rejoice and put down their buckets.

http://blog.mapawatt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/carrying-water.jpg

Why did KING HUSSEIN OBAMA do this now? Because he knew this question was not going to go away. He knew that in 2008 he and the media guilted Americans to vote for him. Now he has to earn their vote. The polls showed too many Americans had questions about his birth. And if it meant 3 or 4 percent of Americans wouldn’t vote for him because he won’t answer this question then he had no choice but to release his document. Obama is for Obama.

CaliforniaScreaming on April 28, 2011 at 2:10 am

Even if Obama was born in Hawaii or has An American mother does not make him a natural born citizen!

Do you think the framers of the constitution intended the term ‘natural born citizen’ to refer to a person with one parent of foreign allegiance?

Just say Osama Bin Laden had an American wife who gave birth to a son in San Francisco. Would you think that make the child a natural born citizen? Do you think that the original framers of the constitution intended the term ‘natural born citizen’ to apply to suggest events? Basically, the made-up example I citied is a parallel of Barack Obama’s situation — his daddy was Kenyan and therefore at birth, Obama jnr was a subject to the British crown. Further, his mother was 18years old when she gave birth to Obama — in the state of Hawaii, a person had to be a US resident for 10 years, 5 of those after the age of 14, in order to confer citizenship. Stanley Durham, Obama’s baby mama, was only 18 at birth — she would have to have been 19 years to old!

Bill Ayres has admitted he wrote Obama’s book. Debbie has posted evidence for Obama posting a fraudulent selective service form. The guy is associated with mass fraud.

So Obama is born in Hawaii — and? His dad was Kenyan thus Obama jnr was a subject to the British crown. Further, he became an Indonesian citizen when he went to live there as a youngster.

And this guy is deemed ‘right’ for the POTUS?

Obama is not a great intellect — he got into university with help, not on the merit of his grades. Same with his wife who benefited from the racist affirmative action policy to make up for the fact she was too dumb to make it to university on her own grades.

Everything about this man’s life shows opposition to what America is. OLbama’s mind has been shaped by the hate-inspired tenets of Islam. He’s a racist — he attended a racist church for 20 years of his adult life for crying out loud.

Stop making excises for him. So what he is mixed-race — that doesn’t preclude him from being a racist piece of scum.

Barry on April 28, 2011 at 3:50 am

    Prove it or shut the heck up.

    hallie on May 14, 2011 at 6:35 pm

Hey, who cares where he was born? Maybe jerked off on a rock and hatched by the sun? BFD!!! He’s lied about everything or has been far less than honest, to say the least. That much we know.

The more important issues here are where are the jobs in the U.S.? When’s the housing market coming back? What’s being done about gas prices and the Wall Street con artists who have been manipulating it for years? When are we going to stop throwing good money at bad, i.e. the Middle East, Haiti, every other ungrateful cesspool that whines with their hands out and kicks us in the ass when our backs are turned? How about the First “Shady Lady’s” weekend shopping trips and vacations around the world at the taxpayers’ expense? The list goes on.

Yeah, this blemish needs to go; no second term for this dweeb. I don’t see anyone in the GOP’s camp yet so let’s not hold our breath. I hope all you “Hope and Change” koolaid guzzlers are happy…you got hosed just like the rest who didn’t vote for him…

IceNoMore on April 28, 2011 at 9:31 am

Whether or not the certificate is valid (and I agree with Debbie that I can’t tell – forensics could determine that in a couple of minutes by checking the paper and the ink), it’s VERY suspicious that it took SO long to get a copy (perhaps it took that long to manufacture it and arrange for the secrecy oaths of those involved). I don’t trust Obama or his henchman and ESPECIALLY not his handlers.

And as much as I dislike Donald Trump, his point about the late disclosure of the certificate is valid.

Steve Katz on April 28, 2011 at 9:55 am

I am still waiting to see Obama’s Congressional “Authorization to go to war” in Libya, Obama’s “Summer of Recovery”, and the Repubicans having any ball to stand up to him and for our Constitution. I know… wishful thinking on my part. At the rate we are going, we WILL be living in Obama’s Amerika (intentionally spelled with a “k”) with no hope of ever recovering.

Pats on April 28, 2011 at 10:03 am

Interesting !!! I too am trained in graphic design and use photoshop and illustrator. My initial reaction to the BC was that I was saw too much white space under the names and inserted information and the space with the R in his name looked manipulated someway. The Stanley (Ann Dunhan) signature stood out as well. Do you think they used one of the grandparents birth certificates as the template? Amazing, I did not even try the releasing masks but I now believe this is fake too.

CJ on April 28, 2011 at 10:29 am

I guess I am shocked that so many think this “birther” thing is a waste of time. If Zero is a profligate liar, why would one give him any quarter on ANYTHING?

I now think Zero was born here in the USA (because I believe FMD is his dad and NOT BOsen, a Kenyan)…I just don’t think he will show his REAL BC (and NO, a certificate of live birth does NOT count. When did you ever hear of that nomenclature for such a thing other than this whole BC imbroglio???) because he is hiding that FMD is his dad or SOMETHING ELSE.

Please don’t forget that he had spent 2 MILLION to keep this from being FOIA’d and then when he does supposedly show the so-called BC, it’s the same ferkakte “certificate of live birth” horse crap.

He has lied about authoring his two books. It’s been exposed but for the life of me Cashill can’t get any satisfaction on his hard work. I have followed his investigation from the beginning on this so I myself am nonplussed when I wonder why it’s constant crickets for him.

Zero won’t release his college transcripts either. Prolly ‘cuz his grades sucked. He is far from brilliant if you haven’t figured it out by now. This will expose his supposed brilliance as the construct it is! (And man, will David Frum, David Brooks and Dana Millbank be exposed as the dopes they truely are when everyone finally believe BO is a dope).

DS has proved here that his selective service form has been forged. I have to admit that I didn’t even know that ’til recently. I was not shocked. DS does great investigative work and besides HE LIES ABOUT EVERYTHING so it was NOT a stretch for me to believe it even without DS’s investigation.

The guy is a total fraud. If you follow A to B to C I have no idea why some people seem to think this whole “Birther” thing is a briliant bait and switch on Zero’s part. The guy ain’t brilliant and the only brilliant thing he pulled off was getting elected and a whole bunch of other peeps had more to do with that than HE and add a bunch of white-guilt into that and that is why he pulled it off.

PUHLEEZE. They guy needs that teleprompter to even talk to himself in a mirror, goes to war when he is suppose to be the anti-war President, he has a Noble Peace Prize he certainly didn’t earn and he vacays all the time and golfs NO MATTER HOW BAD THE WORLD TURNS.

C’mon people. It seems to me that is harder to convince oneself that Zero is NOT lying about his BC than he isn’t.

(And by the way, NO ONE knows yet what is on it to make him hide it. There are theories, BUT NO ONE KNOWS…yet.)

Skunky on April 28, 2011 at 11:10 am

The very job of POTUS has officially been reduced to a joke.This nothing,with high powered,filthy rich Leftist/Bolshevik Friends-In-High-Places( In Chicago and other places inside and outside the US )helping him through two top colleges,becomes a “community activist”,doing nothing more than voting “present” as a politician,with friends that ALL HATE AMERICA,is able to get elected POTUS?Of course, being Black,he and his media pals playing the Race Card every inch of the way,was a big reason( Manipulating White Guilt everywhere,to get enough Whites to vote for him,in the stupid belief,that it would end Blacks and their Blame Whitey BS,which WE knew they wouldn’t ) This means that ANYONE, can become leader of this country – no matter how grossly unqualified.

Phineas on April 28, 2011 at 11:10 am

My other observation was the name of the hospital. I saw on other post that the name of the hospital was changed in 1978 and the new name (not used in 61) was on the certificate they released. This is huge if in fact true (according to hospital website apparently) that this is a manufactured document irregardless of the manipulations in creative software programs.

CJ on April 28, 2011 at 11:32 am

Yes Phineas, anyone can become leader of this country…if they go to Columbia, graduate from Harvard Law, and have the guts enough to run for office in one of the most toughest and corrupt political landscapes of all: Chicago.

President Obama may indeed be unqualified, but he threw his hat in the ring and won. I see the usual Internet trip of “Obama’s a racist and benefited from affirmative action.” If he and his wife benefited from affirmative action, so be it…that means they stepped up and took advantage of the opportunities given them. Good! Theodore Roosevelt wrote that the victory goes to the man who gets in the arena, not the critic on the sidelines. Obama and his wife didn’t sit on the sidelines and propogate crazy conspiracy theories on the Internet…they got in the arena while so many other “qualified” folks sat on the sidelines. If he is indeed “unqualified”, then all of you “qualified” folks need to do what he did and run for office…first locally, then statewide, then nationally. I’d like to see how many of you have the guts and fortitude to survive that process.

In a country where people consider Sara Palin and Michelle Bachmann as serious potential presidential candidates, it is a joke to hear people call Obama “unqualified”. But I’m not mad at Gov. Palin or Rep. Bachmann…they too have the guts to put themselves out there and run for office. They talk a lot of smack, but they’re also willing to back it up with political action. If you don’t like Obama, then find a decent candidate to beat him or run yourself. Stop comimg up with all of this birther crap and nutty conspiracy theories.

And Skunky, why in the hell should the PRESIDENT release his academic records? If he is indeed considering a run for President, Trump is out of line with his remarks on Obama’s academic history. What President in modern political history has had his academic integrity challenged like this and has had another potential candidate challenge him to release his grades? Internet trolls can do this kind of thing all they want, but it is uncouth for a potential Presidential candidate to do so. If some consider President Obama an embarassment, then this whole “birther” issue and academic challenge is an even greater embarassment.

Challenge the President on his ill-advised Health care plan, challenge the President on Iraq and Afganhistan, challenge the President on his lacksidasical effort on getting Americans jobs, challenge the President on our increasing involvement in Libya, challenge the President on getting in bed with Wall Street, challenge the President on gas prices, and challenge the President in the next election cycle with a VIABLE candidate. THAT is the American way….

FIETTS on April 28, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    FIETTS, I’m gonna steal DS’ succinct retort (and a joy to those of us of the 70’s) RIF. (reading is fundamental!)

    You’re asking me why I think Zero should release his college transcripts when in my FIRST paragraph I clearly state he is a profligate LIAR and I give him quarter on NADA.

    You’re a joke. Read again my thesis and if you still can’t get it maybe the RIF truck will come by and give you a gleaming, new book to read. Age 6.

    Skunky on April 28, 2011 at 4:50 pm

Everyone here is so lost in the details of the fakery that they ignore or refuse to see the most important part of all:

This could be the most authentic document in the world – it wouldn’t matter because it is missing ONE THING REQUIRED UNDER REGULATIONS that seals the deal:

The embossed seal of either the Department of Health of Hawaii or the State of Hawaii with a written or stamped date in the center and the signature of the registrar of such document on it.

I.e., this document certifies absolutely nothing!!! It is not admissible in court to certify one for a background check, a teaching credential, citizenship, a passport, local, state or federal office, etc.

However, there is one detail pointed at FR and several blogs that really does stand out:

How is it that the Nordyke twins Mom and Obama’s Mom have the exact same “date of signature” handwriting and “date” adjacent to their signature???

This suggests that an existing BC or COLB was doctored. Could be the twins BC…could be an adoption BC or COLB…

…we’ll never know until someone inside the DOH of Hawaii tattles…or a judge finally says, “Enough of this crap!!!” and issues a subpoena.

=8-)

mrrabbit on April 28, 2011 at 12:43 pm

I Love how the Registrar on Obama’s Long Form COLB is UKALALEE. You Know, the Tiny little Guitar that was invented in Hawaii used by Tiny Tim and Don Ho.

Emudude on April 28, 2011 at 12:53 pm

#1 Vato you are right. They have the means ($’s) to do a perfect job. The COLB is certainly real in that it does exist. The only nagging question I have is why don’t all Hawaiian birth certificates circa 1961 say “Certificate of Live Birth”? I’ve seen some that say “Birth Certificate” and have an embossed seal.
In any case, as you say it’s a loser. He’s there now. Let’s try and get him out ASAP.
Let’s just add this to the pile of lies and deceptions and move to some more immediate issues. Like the economy and gas prices and the falling value of the dollar and the debt and the Middle East…??
There will be some that carry on the fight but they know that not BO, nor any of his people will ever admit that the BC is faked.
They are like Sisyphus who was condemned to roll the stone up the hill and each time it neared the top it would roll back down.
They just must do it.

Vuulfie on April 28, 2011 at 1:15 pm

It’s just a distraction – Robert Gates is moving, David Petraeus is moving….think of the timing and think if Obama has ever done anything that didnt benefit himself. He couldve released this anytime in the last two years.

J: Do not post links to that anti-Semitic, calorically-gifted bitch, Melissa Clouthier, who praised Muslim death, rape, and torture threats on my life and my family and said her nutcase friend was funny for praising the anti-Semitic threats. The same goes for that website. DS

jdiz on April 28, 2011 at 1:34 pm

jdiz, that is an excellent point. President Obama is playing chess while these “birthers” and conspiracy theorists are playing marbles. Obama purposely let the birth certificate drag on to bring the fools out and let them make fools of themselves. Then when Trump brings it up and starts getting a rise in the polls, Obama pulls out the certificate, effectively making Trump and other birthers look like clowns to the indepedent voters who count.

All the while, the major shifts in personnel at the White House are all but ignored while people post things online about Obama being the secret son of Malcolm X (are we in Bizarro world or what?). We need to get serious here. Obama is a failure as a President, but he just may get another four years because the people opposing him seem to be even bigger failures…

FIETTS on April 28, 2011 at 2:42 pm

Feets give it UP.

Are you that obtuse to not understand that the so-called conspriracy is of your hero Zero’s construct?

He was the only candidate/Prez NOT to release it and spent $2 Million to keep it out of court. No, you can’t explain that, you’re all about tinfoil hats and the grassy knoll. Those who have been open to this fraud will NOT be fooled by your sleight of hand.

Zero has a history of being a fraud. He did NOT write his two published books. Explain that?

His selective service form is a FRAUD. Explain that?

His paper trail of actual writings is slim BUT his writings that are public are NOT brilliant but bland and pedestrian. His two books have two distinctive writing styles. Explain that?

His gorgeous/ wife is a fraud and set up a system at Chicago University Hosp. that booted the poor so that more affluent patients/clients could get 5 star service.

With all those (and more!) on their curiculum vitae it goes without saying that ANYONE pro or con Obama would have to grab their beard and say hmmmmmm?

It is NOT a distraction because it is part of the fraudulent construct of how a complete anti-American charlatan like Zero could be elected leader of the free world.

It is ALL PART OF THE DECEPTION.

Some of us were NOT hosed, but I guess it doesn’t matter because people just can’t take it in the proper context…which is MaObama is a COMPLETE fraud, is NOT who he says he is and has hinky stuff squirming out of his past no matter what way one looks. But that’s ok. Even David Brooks, David Frum, Dana Millbank and Peggy Noonan need to have friends.

The aggregate problem is that the Prez is a FRAUD. It’s about the collective clues, not some conspiracy theory label! Nice try.

Skunky on April 28, 2011 at 5:07 pm

Skunky, I’ve lived long enough to know that all is not what it seems on the surface, so I’m not entirely discounting your arguments. But I’m also a believer in stepping in the arena if you want the victory. If all of what you said about Obama is true, the fact remains that Obama ran….and ran…and ran…and ran…and he won until he reached the Presidency (despite the fact that he did get his butt handed to him in his first poltical race, but again, he stepped back in the ring and ran again). If what you say is true, then President “Dubya” would have had to be in on the “deception” by creating conditions in this country so deplorable that an Obama would be elected. If Obama is indeed a fraud, then someone OF SUBSTANCE needs to step up and run against him….that is the only way.

FIETTS on April 28, 2011 at 6:32 pm

Those who want to diminish the “birther” issue are missing the point. Whether or not he was born in the US is really not at issue here. (well, if proven that he wasn’t then it’s a constitutional crisis…but that’s something else) The issue is that Obama has been treated with kid gloves by the press; indeed he has been protected. Because of that, we have no idea who this man really is. What makes him tick? Leaders don’t actually do much but set the tone and the tone they set is based on their character. We elected a man who’s character was whatever the press said it was, not what it truly is. By poking and prodding this issue along, we uncover one layer at a time just like his fake birth certificate. We have a right, and indeed a responsibility, to do this work and know what is in this man’s heart. His daddy was NOT a goat herder as he has told us numerous times. His story is so full of holes it makes swiss cheese jealous. Trump is proving Obama a liar and a scam artist. We need to know how he got into Harvard, and who supported him. Know that, and he’ll be finished. Check this link and the links contained within…you’ll see what I mean.

Eric on April 29, 2011 at 8:54 am

http://goinggoinggalt.wordpress.com/

Eric on April 29, 2011 at 8:55 am

Sorry, FIETTS, no matter how “tough” it was in the political hellhole that Chicago is, he still passed through Harvard and Columbia BECAUSE HE IS BLACK.There,I’m not afraid to say it,no matter what modern day Big Brother( LEFT Wing,as we know ) is reading this and filing it.

Phineas on April 29, 2011 at 8:33 pm

All the evidence,literally and from associates at those schools, shows that he did, or wrote,next-to-NOTHING useful or substantive while he was at either of those colleges.Same with his “community activist” years,and especially, in Congress. But ,with the controversy about this brewing again, I’m sure Ayers & Dohrn will quickly write some totally phone BS to pass for college material,and various Columbia/Harvard people will be paid off,or threatened,Left Wing-style,to lie through their teeth.

Phineas on April 30, 2011 at 10:30 am

all this talk makes me think of the peter sellers movie, being there, about a guy with no recorded past who makes his way up to running for president. anyone ever seen that?

nickjames on May 1, 2011 at 6:39 am

Skunky, This is pertinent. Guess what, it wasn’t Sherlock Holmes who had his signature on the document investigating John Mc Cain’s eligibility and it wasn’t his side kick, Watson, either. The Constitutional facts and requirements are in black & white and for the ‘supposed Harvard lawyer’ to have known the facts and totally ignored the Constitution for his own advantage. Well, this goes beyond the height of arrogance. He’s made fools of the American voters.Barack Hussein Obama sen.’s file with the USA Immigration dept.is another piece of the puzzle but no doubt the records have been scrubbed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJgY86nmEHc&feature=player_embedded

Eyes Wide Open on May 1, 2011 at 7:26 am

Please see http://alohareporter.com/2010/03/hawaii-considering-law-to-ignore-obama-birthers/ for the first “original” publich of the birth certificate. This had to be modified tho as it clearly shows Obama was born in Kenya, he was brought back, and Grandma filed for certificate.

Please note here, that per the laws at the time (1961) the mother had not been in the US long enough to transfer citizenship to her child born out of the Country.

tammy on May 2, 2011 at 5:50 pm

Fools, he did not release it because the short form is a copy of the long form and HE did not have the long form and had to get a court order to have it released. He did not release, Hawaii released it to FactCheck
Enough already.

hallie on May 14, 2011 at 6:33 pm

Who cares about his birth certificate. Everything about Obama is false, lie and you might as well say he is a cult leader hell bent on destroying the country we live in. Heck every country we have stood against he supports and condones our greatest allies. Some may say its racism but to him and all his so called people get the f@#k out of office so hopefully we can get someone to fix what you have destroyed.

lee on July 15, 2011 at 9:19 pm

Have you ever done any reading on the birth certificate issue?

It is not about the bullsh*t “Birther” label that liberals concocted as a euphemism for “racist.” It is about studying the facts and the work of what other people have done for the past three years.

Debbie, i’ll send you a free copy of my book, “alias Barack Obama: the greatest identity fraud in history,” if you agree to read what I wrote about his first birth certificate forgery and why that is infinitely more important than this latest Adobe trifecta (it required the use of Acrobat, Photoshop, and Illustrator to create it), and, dare I say it, more important than his forged SSR.

Please visit my website.

Ron

Dr. Ron Polland on September 22, 2011 at 7:15 am

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