June 8, 2011, - 7:00 pm

Not Sure About This Abortion Billboard

By Debbie Schlussel

One of the many hypocrisies in American family law is that if a woman wants to get an abortion, she has 100% control over that decision, even if she is married.  The father has no say.  Yet, if she decides to give birth, the father of the kid–who also has no say  in that decision–must pay child support.  I am pro-life, but I find this contradiction ridiculous.  That said, I’m unsure I like the billboard put up by New Mexico man, Greg Fultz, declaring his upset over his girlfriend’s abortion.  He doesn’t name her, so he’s really only shaming himself, and, to me, it’s just another annoying outgrowth of internet attempts by everyone to put their private lives and dirty laundry out there for the world.

I think the billboard is kind of low class, actually, and maybe he should have married her before fathering potential kids.  Plus, he’s not even sure if the baby was aborted or miscarried.  It’s a free country, and he can say or do whatever he wants.  I just don’t like it.  I don’t agree with a court ordering him to take it down on the grounds that it’s “harassment,” and I think he could successfully challenge that unconstitutional limitation of his First Amendment free speech rights in an appeal.  On the other hand, if the kid wasn’t aborted, then the woman has a possible defamation claim against him, though such a claim would be clouded by the fact that he doesn’t name a specific girlfriend.

A New Mexico man said today he will fight to keep up a controversial billboard that suggested his ex-girlfriend had an abortion.

The billboard has a photo of Greg Fultz holding the outline of a baby with a playground in the background. The large text beside the photo reads, “This Would Have Been a Picture Of My 2-Month Old Baby If The Mother Had Decided To NOT KILL Our Child!”

The sign is on White Sands Boulevard, the main thoroughfare in Alamogordo, N.M., and has been up since mid-May. Fultz’s ex-girlfriend Nani Lawrence took him to court with a petition for domestic violence and charges of harassment and invasion of privacy.

Fultz, 35, claims that Lawrence was pregnant with his child during their six-month relationship last year. He admits that when the relationship ended, the baby was lost, but he does not know whether it was due to an abortion or a miscarriage. Fultz says that Lawrence would not tell him what happened. . . .

“My original intentions when I started this campaign were quite simple,” Fultz said. “I just wanted to shed the light on pro-life issues and fathers’ rights. I have had no closure over my own personal loss and that’s where the billboard came into play.”

Last week, Otero County Domestic Violence Court hearing commissioner Darrell Brantley recommended an order of protection for Lawrence and that the billboard be removed by 8:14 a.m. on June 17 on the grounds of harassment.

I like the idea of provoking thought over the hypocrisy and lack of father’s rights with regard to unborn children. But, again, I think this is a low-class way of doing it. And I’m not sure it will change any minds. I think he should have the right to know, though, what led to the baby’s death. And, as I noted above, he should have a say–as all potential fathers should but don’t–in the baby’s fate.

What do you think about Greg Fultz’s billboard?

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41 Responses

I say this guy is some a**hole who still hasn’t gotten over the fact that his relationship is over. He probably does believe her when she says she miscarried and just wants to hurt her in the worst possible way. Now everytime she and her family drive past this sign, they have to mourn they baby they lost all over again! Mission accomplished!

Lee in IL on June 8, 2011 at 7:26 pm

Debbie I think you’d do a good job carrying my child. We could hire an attractive, Yiddish speaking nanny.

A1 on June 8, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    Heyyy…..I had dibs on Debbie long before you did.

    But yeah, I’m not for this billboard myself. Why didn’t he marry her? Instead he’s got egg on his face and couldn’t keep his zipper up.

    Squirrel3D on June 8, 2011 at 10:19 pm

I’m on the guy’s side. I also take umbrage with Debbie’s assertion that it was a “low class” thing for the guy to do. He’s mourning for his dead child, he’s angry at the inequity of family law and its bias against straight fathers and he’s expressing that anger and sadness in a way that brings much needed attention to the issue. Not sure of a “high class” way of doing that that is within the capabilities of an average guy.

DS_ROCKS! on June 8, 2011 at 8:33 pm

great billboard- effective not low class-sheesh are you saying he should be pc about it? huh doesnt matter if he doesnt know the truth that board stands on its own. the ex has no case and the court is wrong he should fight keep it up–also if the girl is involved in the court decision couldnt he use that fact to get full disclosure so he can find out what happened

markcon on June 8, 2011 at 8:57 pm

To me, it’s a question of the end vs. the means. Granted the means are low-class and in poor taste, but given the tyranny of abortion in our society today, I don’t see how things could get worse than they are. Maybe this will stir up discussion about the unfair laws and the dominance of abortion (murder). I don’t see how that can hurt. Abortion is all-powerful already; we have nowhere to go but up.

The domestic violence sounds like a he-said she-said. What domestic violence is worse than the murder his girlfriend allegedly committed?

Little Al on June 8, 2011 at 9:30 pm

Looking at that picture that guy should be happy he found any woman willing to have sex with him.

UN-C.A.N.I. X-MEN on June 8, 2011 at 10:03 pm

I dunno, I kinda like the Billboard. Reasons stated were extremely valid (why DS is unsure of whether it’s a good thing or not).

~I’m right on board with the lack of say a man has in the matter. Even when I was pro-abortion, the thought of the men’s lack of rights would wander around my mind ever so gingerly. Now I can proudly say I dislike their lack of say/rights.

~Dude has gotta know what ACTUALLY happened to the babe!

~6 months relationship? What a joke! An innocent baby pays (maybe?) because these fools play “adult” and get physical within just 6 months. That’s slutty and foolish. People are so base today I reckon they have forgotten DATING is to find out if a person is RIGHT for marriage material…it’s not a getting-to-know-you-sex-a-thon. People are disgusting today. It’s all so base.

~Now this fool fo’sure knows that this silly lady is NOT for him. Price he paid was extreme (maybe?)

It’s hard to feel empathy with people today when they act more primitive than animals.

Let’s hear it for the feminist movement! The silliest and most futile cause I have ever heard of and have been (sadly)part of. They sicken me.

Skunky on June 8, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    Skunky, since you mentioned Andrew Breitbart in your message, I will comment on Breitbart himself. He originally said that he wasn’t going to release the photos of Anthony Weiner being half-nude, but he decided to release the photos of Weiner and black-mail the dude!

    But I also believe that the folks top in the DNC food-chain forwarded Breitbart the photos of Weiner and Breitbart being the shill-hack he is agreed to the DNC and exposed the X-rated photos of Rep. Weiner. Skunky, I don’t know who’s ethics are worst, Anthony Weiner for exposing his private area or Andrew Breitbart for exposing the photos of him and black-mailing him? And speaking of which, we all know over the last few years or so, some muslim pressure groups attempted and failed to get rid of DS’s law-license and fake far-right conservatives (Michelle Malkin, Ed Morrissey, John Hawkins, Cassy Fiano, Emily Zanotti, etc.) attempted and failed to get rid of DS’s law-license as well, and I don’t know who’s worst in this situation, the muslim pressure groups that harrass Debbie or the far-right fake conservatives who harrass Debbie?

    “A nation is defined by it’s borders, language & culture!”

    Sean R. on June 9, 2011 at 1:41 pm

      Good on you Sean…you said it BEST when you said you do not know who is worse…pervert Weiner or that arrogant POS Breitbart. DS warned us about that lout and as always…she knew what she was talking about.

      Weiner was the Dem we all loved to hate. His downfall is good to see because he is such a bad guy (his partner in crime is Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz!) BUT his humiliation was complete and I do believe that he mea culpa’d BECAUSE of the X photo Breitbart had.

      And Breitbart is a disgusting spotlight whore who lies and sells his soul to satan. He said he would NOT release it and he DID. I hope that POS has his own downfall soon. He is a charlatan fraud and his arrogance has out-paced Bill O’Reilly’s.

      Again, DS was RIGHT. On the facts and NOT due to something silly. I’m a believer!

      Skunky on June 9, 2011 at 9:33 pm

They might get him because the billboard originally had National Association of Needed Information (N.A.N.I.) on it the girlfriend’s name is Nani Lawrence. He I.D. her on the billboard and that can be called harassment and invasion of her privacy.

Time Wave on June 8, 2011 at 11:51 pm

My view? I think it should be between a couple but if your mate makes it public, then you should have the right of reply.

In this case, I’m amused the same leftists who say women should have equality deny it to men. Don’t be detained by their hypocrisy; its par for the course.

And abortion of course is never about women’s rights since it takes two to make a woman pregnant. I’m not defending irresponsible men but women shouldn’t either be let off the hook.

NormanF on June 9, 2011 at 12:39 am

(Ok, I just found out about the X photo of Anthony Weiner.

It got out due to that fraud WHO DS HAS WARNED US ABOUT Andrew Breitbart. After he said he WOULDN’T!!!)

I despise that piece of latrine slime now. Thanks to DS, I watched him closely…and as ALWAYS, her thoughts on him are RIGHT ON THE MONEY.

He’s a sleazegrinder supreme, too. I didn’t buy his rotten book because I took DS’ opinions seriously and he looks so arrogant on the cover…which backed up what DS has said about him.

I just want to put it out there that even though sometimes we wanna doubt DS when she tells us certain Conservatives are doosh-bags….DON’T.

I’m a true believer now. I will NEVER doubt her. That is why we get so crestfallen when she gives us the good-guts on supposedly GOOD Conservatives. We know the truth behind it.)

Skunky on June 9, 2011 at 12:55 am

Wait, that’s a dude in the picture?
WTF

Tom on June 9, 2011 at 7:12 am

Without empirical evidence that this child was lost to abortion, I feel the billboard was in the poorest of taste. The psychological pain of a miscarriage is brutal. The worst part of which is the self doubt & guilt-ie: “what could I have done differently” or “this had to be my fault”. I am 100% pro-life and I do appreciate that a dialogue on fathers rights is necessary and has been ignored for far too long. But this case was not the proper conduit to open that discussion.

MarySJ on June 9, 2011 at 8:16 am

What sentient life form would have sex with this man?

Tanstaafl on June 9, 2011 at 8:39 am

@Tanstaafi–apparently the only girl this 35yo can get is an 18yo!

According to today’s (6/9) Chicago Tribune, even New Mexico’s Right To Life Commitee has withdrawn support for this billboard. It has recently come to light that Fultz has a history of stalking and domestic violence. Not exactly a shocker.

Lee in IL on June 9, 2011 at 9:42 am

No, this is really not good. It gives a bad name to the Father’s Rights Movement. This is a protest which serves no purpose other than the harassment of the woman who is the object of Greg Fultz’s malice. While the billboard statement should be protected as a free speech issue, there are far more worthy parties to get behind than this man. In fact, as Debbie has noted, if no abortion occurred, his ex-girlfriend would have a good defamation case against Greg Fultz. .

worry01 on June 9, 2011 at 10:29 am

If that child was not aborted,IMHO this guy is exposed on a defamation claim.(not that he probably has anything to go after). It also illustrates the problem with civil harassment statutes. Does putting up a billboard constitute a “pattern of conduct.”? I would argue no and the billboard is protected speech as to any government intervention.(assuming there is no defamation)

Brian Cuban on June 9, 2011 at 10:56 am

According to newsgather.com, this guy has made misogynistic statments on Twitter:
Under the Twitter handle “prdpgn” he has issued the following statements:

“What do you tell a woman with two black eyes? Nothing. She’s already been told twice.”
“What does a battered woman do when she comes home from the hospital? The dishes, if she knows what’s good for her.”
“What do you do if you see your ex running around in your front yard covered in blood and screaming for help? Stay calm, reload, & try again.”
“It’s not that I regret meeting you, it’s that I regret not running you over with my car before you walked out on me.”
Fultz demonstrates a love of violence against women that makes it all too clear that his billboard antics were meant with the deepest of malice. His ex was lucky to be rid of him, and frankly it’s all the better that any potential child of his remains unborn. Who knows what other types of violence Greg Fultz is a fan of?

Mominminnesota on June 9, 2011 at 11:09 am

    If that is the case, there is certainly an argument for a pattern of conduct to justify a harassment charge(even though I think civil harassment statutes based solely on speech are unconstitutional in general)

    Brian Cuban on June 9, 2011 at 11:28 am

    Another man-hating “womyn.” Congrats.

    DS_ROCKS! on June 9, 2011 at 11:42 am

Dickhead!

CornCoLeo on June 9, 2011 at 11:09 am

A pro-life organization called Right to Life New Mexico had originally endorsed Fultz’s billboard but pulled their endorsement when they discovered that Fultz was unsure whether Lawrence had an abortion or miscarriage.

If she had a miscarriage, I hope there is a consequence to this guy putting up this billboard.

Mominminnesota on June 9, 2011 at 11:12 am

Another case of a lover scorned. I had this story scoped out in an instant. Mr. Fultz is yet another bitter unmated man, enraged over the fact that She Ended It. Given his personality and background, maybe his ex was onto something.

People like this give the pro-life movement a bad name. Indeed, the main reason why I have grown very cool toward the pro-life movement over the years is losers like this guy.

Seek on June 9, 2011 at 12:03 pm

Low class. But an indication that anti-abortionists are winning the argument.

pat on June 9, 2011 at 1:10 pm

There are several things on abortion. First, I feel that society should not be telling anyone what they can do with their body. If a woman wants to be a prostitute, then the law should only cover her potential for transmission of disease. I do not see any way that a woman is harming someone by an abortion. In many ways, taking birth control pills is similar to having a series of mini-abortions. So removing a fetus at 3 months is of little concern.

Second, the cat is out of the bag. It is rediculous to think that we can return to a period of time that made abortion an unacceptable option. It it is made illegal, then it will just go underground.

Third, have you ever seen a child that a couple did not want. The physical and mental damage to that child can not be described. I would much prefer the fact that the child was not given the opportunity to live in such abuse.

We need to seek means of getting the government out of our lives. Eliminate the drug laws and other “moral” laws that actually cause more harm than good. Restore our freedom. As it is, the liberals are using abortion to split conservatives and others that want to achieve these goals. All they have to do is roll out the emotional issue of abortion and the argument and efforths to return freedom are doomed. Just look at what they did with the recent budget bill discussion.

david7134 on June 9, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    David…your opinions are so facile.

    Once a baby is conceived, there is no reason to THINK that they should have never been born (not due to anything the innocent child did, BTW). THAT is the cat REALLY being out of the bag, but YOU never thought of that, did you? In essense, you are also saying the baby…at it’s youngest and most in need of a loving, protector …SHOULD be killed heinously in lieu of living. You better think about that a bit. It’s something a 12 year old girl would think. And very heartless.

    You sound like a Losertarian. Losertarians are NEVER gonna win and they are NOT Conservatives. Ron Paul is a weirdo. Get over it.

    Skunky on June 9, 2011 at 7:04 pm

      They are playing you like a harp. Read a little more on female physiology. And not from the Catholic web sites.

      david7134 on June 9, 2011 at 11:13 pm

        David, you’re a loon and have no clue what you’re talking about.

        I never read Christian websites. As with most Liberals/Losertarians…you’re just not clued in to anything but group-speak and bumper sticker logic.

        Skunky on June 10, 2011 at 9:14 am

@ david7134: “I do not see any way that a woman is harming someone by an abortion”

You’re quite right in your case, david7134; I wish *you* had been aborted. Certainly would have been no great loss there.

DS_ROCKS! on June 9, 2011 at 5:37 pm

I’m pro post-birth abortions for Muslims until the 5,000th trimester.

The sooner they all get to their “heaven”, the better the world will be.

Abort Islam...Now! on June 9, 2011 at 6:31 pm

Actually the girls name is CANI. I know that info. And her initials are at the bottom of the billboard. BTW she is retarded. No really, mentally challenged. Unbelievable.

NOT SO FAST on June 9, 2011 at 7:20 pm

The billboard pushes the envelope a bit, but it isn’t totally tacky.

I agree with you that it’s totally absurd that the WOMAN decides whether or not to get an abortion, but if she DOESN’T, the father has no choice as to whether or not to support the child.

Miranda Rose Smith on June 10, 2011 at 2:25 am

I totally disagree with you Debbie and am actually quite astonished with your contradictory viewpoints. You continually criticize men on your blog for not being masculine and standing up for their status as the patriarch. When a man does stand up for half of a relationship you don’t throw your support behind him. Would you rather have him carrying her purse, while he keeps his mouth shut?

Now I am going to assume that this baby was aborted. Why? He is closest to the situation, brazen enough to put up a billboard and do you actually think the mother would admit to an abortion?

On first sight, this does seem low class. Put it is also committing a rare feat, which is to put a very personal and human touch on the issue of abortion. Did you not empathize with his plight? Well if you did then the billboard achieved its goal. I think the real reason why we think it is low class is because it makes us feel uneasy.

You should let up on this guy and give us your thoughts on the new news surrounding Rima Fakih and her sharmutah ways.

DBoAtty on June 10, 2011 at 9:07 am

    I really am tired of hearing from men who EMPATHIZE with Fultz’s “plight.”

    I´m assuming they know about the battered-wife jokes he´s posted, and the fact that Nani is getting a protection order from a Domestic Violence Court (Otero County). I´m assuming they know that Fultz refused to marry Nani when it was discovered she was pregnant (this according to Fultz’s lawyer). I´m assuming they are considering the possibility that a miscarriage occurred.

    Under these circumstances,I can only come to one of two conclusions regarding those who empathize with Fultz: 1) that they are extremely credulous innocents and believe Fultz put up his sign motivated only by the noblest of sentiments, or 2) that they are hardened cynics who EMPATHIZE with Fultz according to the true meaning of the word — they identify with a stalker, understand his peculiar brand of “pain,” and want to help him make the bitch PAY.

    Face it — Fultz as a person is not the ideal inspiration for ANY cause but his own, all politics aside.

    Georgia Jones on June 11, 2011 at 9:31 am

if she did miscarry she should sue the dude for blood libel and slander

Ploni on June 10, 2011 at 2:30 pm

again i say– I see no personal info on billboard.most people seeing this sign wont know if this guy is scum.
think of the guy as an actor and a generalized male talking about a girlfriend. a stand in for all in this situation.
words are powerful- murder the act of killing is low class but that accusation fits the crime of abortion.

I hope debbie didnt feint from the assault on her sensibility from such a vulger public airing of protest/accusation of this country’s shame. after all a proper person just doesn’t air their laundry where people can see- just throw it(baby)out with the dirty water and forget about it, act like a man.

“He doesn’t name her, so he’s really only shaming himself, and, to me, it’s just another annoying outgrowth of internet attempts by everyone to put their private lives and dirty laundry out there for the world.”

markcon on June 10, 2011 at 5:48 pm

Men should pay child support if they create a pregnancy because they have the option to wear a condom (98% effective) or to get a vasectomy.

Since a woman is the one who bears the responsibility of gestation, with that onerous responsibility comes a corresponding right — the right to opt out. Once a child is born, men develop paternal rights, and they should be more than satisfied with that.

There seems to be a lot of bitterness out there over child support. It´s logical that the same kind of irresponsible men who refuse to wear a condom would whine about child support later on.

Fultz has said (through his lawyer) that he refused to marry Nani Lawrence when she got pregnant. His hypocrisy is staggering — he refused his ex the protection which marriage would have given her and her unborn child. Now he attacks her publicly on the premise that she aborted the child he refused to make legitimate.

Georgia Jones on June 11, 2011 at 9:00 am

    the right to opt out?? need i comment on such a #@(^*(^$$## statement.if you find it so onerous choose to not have sex!!!! or at least protect yourself.
    oh yea kill the baby its just a bastard.
    you make me sick.
    thought this story was about the billboard not the guy.
    Hey future babies- dont bother looking forward to that first breath if your dad is a low life- sins of your father has condemned you- offf with your head

    markcon on June 13, 2011 at 12:10 am

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