September 29, 2011, - 1:00 pm

EXCLUSIVE: Abdulmutallab Jurors Excused for “Religion,” “Single Mom” Reasons; Judge Severely Limits Terrorism Evidence

By Debbie Schlussel

Check out this order issued by Federal Judge Nancy Edmunds excusing for cause some of the potential jurors in the impending trial of Islamic terrorist Undiebomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab.

As you’ll note one of the jurors, Juror #26, was dismissed for “religious reasons.”  What exactly does that mean?  Does it mean that the juror was a religious Jew and could not serve because of the upcoming holidays?  Or does it mean something else . . . like the juror was Muslim and felt he/she couldn’t agree that this man is really a terrorist?  Or was it something else?  Sadly, we may never know . . . unless we can get our hands on Juror #26′s jury questionnaire answers.

As you’ll also note there is the disturbing trend of the “Single Mom” excuse.  At least two jurors, Juror #92 and Juror #318, got out of jury duty because they are single moms.  That’s ridiculous.  If you choose to get pregnant and have a kid out of wedlock, this is now an excuse to get out of performing your civic duties while men and married mothers are penalized and stuck?  Yes, if you provide your kid a mother and father in the ever extinct nuclear family, you are sentenced to jury duty.  But screw around and become a baby mama, and you get your “Get Out of Jail Free” card.  What’s wrong with this country?  You get punished for doing the right thing.

Let’s say a married couple decide to only have one parent work and the other parent has responsibilities at home.  Well, they don’t get the same break as a single mom, and they have to spend money they .  Let’s say both parents are working and they need both incomes to survive, just as much as “Single Working Mother” Juror #92.  I wonder if a “single working dad” would get the same privilege of avoiding jury duty in Judge Edmunds’ court.  I doubt it because Judge Edmunds is well-known a left-wing feminist appointed by George H. W. Bush, and while she’s always been very liberal, she’s gotten worse and more open about it over the years.  She served for years on the Detroit Jewish Community Relations Council, the unrepresentative, unelected group that deigns to speak for me, and she frequently expounded on her wacko, left-wing views (very improper because many of her statements regarded issues and cases that might come before her).

You should also check out this other recent order Judge Edmunds issued in the case.  Pay special attention to the second page.  Judge Edmunds, who has a history of being soft on terrorists (including accused Al-Qaeda terrorist Omar Abdul-Fattah Shishani) and their co-conspirators, refused to allow federal prosecutors to introduce a video of Osama Bin Laden praising the UndieBomber as evidence in the trial.  She also refused to allow almost all of the “Inspire Magazine” evidence.  Inspire is Al-Qaeda’s magazine, and it included instructions on how captured terrorists can pass messages in prison, undetected.  During his stay in prison in Michigan, Abdulmutallab was caught with the instructions, hidden inside his clothing.  Judge Edmunds severely limited the evidence on this that can be shown to a jury.  Why?

Like I said she’s soft on Islamic terrorists, perhaps as soft as she is on single moms.

Alhamdillullah [praise allah].

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31 Responses

While I fully agree that being a single mum is no excuse for getting out of Jury Service, I would have to point out to you that not all single mums are that way through choice or through “screwing around”. How do you know that none of them are widows? More than that, how do you know that none are widows of service personnel who have given their lives in conflict?

I’m aware that a percentage would, indeed, be covered by your blanket condemnation, but you cannot in all honesty point the finger of moral superiority without knowing all the backgrounds.

Alison on September 29, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    Alison, it’s quite simple. Any moron could easily figure it out. RIF.

    DS said SINGLE mother. She did not say “divorced mother” or “widowed mother”. Single mothers are indeed NOT the same as divorced or widowed mothers. The other two have more respect for the ever disappearing nuclear family. The single mother is a selfish being. A dangerous one too. One that is destroying the integrity of America, like it or not.

    I know many DEFENSIVE sorts won’t like that, but facts are stubborn things…no matter how much misguided “compassion” muddies it up, at the end of the day, it’s a simple mathematical FACT.

    Thanks DS. An interesting post on THREE things (all wrapped in ONE) making America worse…terrorists, their dhimmi sympathizers and single mums…the dumbest and most selfish of the lot.

    Skunky on September 29, 2011 at 6:24 pm

WOW! The breaks this guy seems to get from the Judge.

WOW! The breaks the Jurors seem to get from the Judge.

DOUBLE WOW!! Has Alison ever lived in or been to WAYNE COUNTY or COURTS there? Suggestion: Alison, please take a day and visit the Courts downtown and, if possible, watch a Jury Selection process and an actual Trial. But, yes, your statement is correct…how do we know all the options? So, as a reward, I may be sending you tickets to Disney World…just stay home and wait for the Mail PERSON…thought I’d say Mail Man, didn’t you? Silly.

ps: I wonder if PASTOR YOUCEF NADARKHANI being tried in Iran for APOSTASY – Death Penalty case – will receive as much kindness from the Judge(s) as ABDULMUTALLAB seems to be receiving here? The former wishes to show the love he has for mankind and the latter wishes to show the love he, seemingly, has for pieces of mankind.

Dennis on September 29, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    @ Dennis. I didn’t expect you to say “Mail” anything. I’m in the UK where we have Postmen. And yes. I call them Postmen. Just because I said not all single mothers are single by choice (and, to reply to Skunky, I know that reading is fundamental – a single mother, by definition, is one where there is no father around for ANY reason. I am a single mother due to widowhood so I do know what I’m talking about. I’ve also done Jury Service, so I don’t support it as an excuse/reason for not doing so by any others) does not make me a raging feminist who wants to change established titles and words. In fact I’m far from being so.

    Just because Debbie interprets “single” mother to mean one who has never married does not mean that the original document interprets it in the same way.

    However, I’d love a trip to Disneyworld if the offer still stands. Having been a single mother – because of widowhood since I seem to have to differentiate – I could never afford foreign holidays once my children were fed, clothed and taken care of. They’re both grown up and flown the nest now, so I can indulge myself without having to worry! Debbie can give you my email address when she’s back!

    Alison on September 30, 2011 at 1:11 pm

      No Alison, you are a widowed mum. NOT a single mum. A tragedy took your hubby away NOT stupidity and selfishness.

      Skunky on September 30, 2011 at 11:16 pm

        Skunky, whatever you call it, I still brought up my children on my own with no man around. For me, that’s SINGLE. The fact that I had a wedding ring makes no difference at all as to the words that are used. A rose by any other name would still bring on my allergies, and all that.

        Also, my late husband was actually killed by stupidity and selfishness. I had a husband who was a violent alcoholic and, to keep my girls safe, I was abused physically, mentally, emotionally and sexually for some years. But hey, at least I married the evil toad, right? He died of alcoholic liver failure. That’s the only cause listed on his death certificate. And no, I DIDN’T ignore the signs beforehand. It’s all very well to lay down what should and shouldn’t happen, but unless you’ve walked in those shoes your opinion in this regard, while you’re fully entitled to it, doesn’t really carry a lot of weight.

        Alison on October 1, 2011 at 1:40 pm

          Alison, you just laid your sh** out for all to see. As Tiarosa stated, you are just as stupid as the SINGLE MUMS. Roll around in your own stink if it delights you.

          And take your DUMB Liberal “If you have not walked a mile in my shoes” and SHOVE IT. It’s lame and stupid as DS has pointed out many, many times. Some of us work hard NOT making mistakes of the ilk of single mothers.

          My opinion is ONLY important to those who want to learn from a cautionary TRUTH. My opinion, if taken, will only LESSEN the damage of the single mothers out there. My OPINION will do NOTHING to ameliorate the DAMAGE idiots like you spread like a cancer. MINE is an opinion that can be taken or left at the curb…the ACTIONS are where the real damage is done. Wise UP.

          Skunky on October 1, 2011 at 8:52 pm

          Alison,

          Concerning your post of October 1, 2011 at 1:40 pm, I am not sure what exactly you were trying to accomplish in your post. In your earlier posts, in response to Debbie’s point about how single mothers shouldn’t be excused from serving on a jury, you pointed out that in your own case you are single due to you being a widow. You had Skunky, and I’m sure some others–and for sure including me, convinced that therefore Debbie wasn’t referring to you. If only you had stopped there, you would have successfully made your point.

          But then, you had to write the details in your last post about how both you and your late husbund had made horrible choices and how your husband’s death was entirely avoidable. Thus leaving Skunky no choice but to respond the way that she did–harshness and all–and also indeed unintentionally confirming what Tiarosa wrote in her post. And also, if Debbie wasn’t referring to you before, I’m sure that she will after reading that last comment of yours for reasons that both Skunky and Tiarosa articulated. So my moral–in addition to what both Skunky and Tiarosa had said about single moms plus some divorced moms, and, such as in your case, a widowed mom–is to learn in a debate when to quit while you’re ahead.

          JeffE on October 2, 2011 at 2:25 am

          Alison,

          P.S. Slight correction to my post above. Actually, even your first paragraph was fine. If only you stopped there. It’s your second paragraph which my post refers to.

          JeffE on October 2, 2011 at 2:36 am

Debbie: Not all single moms are out of wedlock. My girlfriend is divorced (he abused her) with two young kids, one with special needs. I help her every way I can. But Daddy is gone, and there are some things I can’t do, like take the kids to the doctor because of privacy laws. I don’t believe all single moms should be excused from jury duty. But I would urge you to think again before criticizing all single moms as lazy and morally degenerate.

Fleiter on September 29, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    And Fleiter, I would implore you that you should NOT be dating a divorced mother. She should be spending all her time with her kids and NOT you. You take attention and time away from her being the best Mum she can…and with Daddy gone and a disabled child, she has her work cut out for her.

    And besides, your presence sexualizes the home to kids who are not only down a dad, but prolly greatly resent your presence.

    Yup, selfish adults always care more about their sex lives than kids (sometimes their very own kids). OT can prolly testify that a lot of his clientele suffer as kids from broken or widowed/widowder homes…and whose time with the parent(s) was compromised by interlopers.

    Skunky on September 29, 2011 at 6:33 pm

      Yes, they do, Skunky, all the time, and you have a very good point, especially if Mr. Fleiter has no long term plans for his GF with him—but a two parent household tends to be better than a one parent one, and, if Mr. Fleiter is intending to make an honest woman out of his GF, that might be nice. So, without knowing more, I would be agnostic on Fleiter.

      Occam's Tool on September 29, 2011 at 9:04 pm

      Skunky: You have got to be kidding me. My girlfriend needs all the help she can get with those kids. I provide the kids with another adult for guidance. I do homework with both. I buy them gifts, including toys and needed items. I play with them. I’ve heard this Dr. Laura nonsense before. But if anybody sacrifices in this relationship, it is me. The kids always come FIRST. And that’s how it should be. As for sexualizing the home, hah. That’s a good one. Let’s see you try to have an active sex life with a single mom when her kids are in the house. We can barely kiss each other without interruption. Any intimacy between us is usually far away from the kids when they are staying with their grandparents.

      Fleiter on September 30, 2011 at 2:58 pm

        LOL Fleiter. If you respect her so much, put a ring on her finger. IF I were a single mum (and I would NEVER be that selfish) I would NOT be having unmarried sex…I’d be too busy with MY KIDS. They are not yours, you are not the dad and you don’t even respect her as you would have married her by now…instead of using her and taking her time away from her children…who should have her time NOT YOU.

        Be all agro you want, buddy. I am not the one ACTING like I am married and taking a mother’s time away from the kids. You both are thou’. Pretty disgusting and shame on you both.

        Stop focusing on WHO may have held the mirror up to you. They are not near as harmful to the kids as you two winners are being. I’ll take THAT to the bank anyday.

        Skunky on September 30, 2011 at 11:15 pm

Is it possible that this guy could walk? Personally, I prefer that single moms not be on the jury. They are most likely Oprah and The View fans, and could very well vote “not guilty” when the defense concocts some sob story about how Abdulmuttalab was abused or deprived in some way.

adam on September 29, 2011 at 4:14 pm

Debbie,

Jury duty is NOT more important than child care. I know it is important that people do their civic duty, but I am, shall we say, jaundiced in my views, pehaps because I have been sued 5 times by prisoners, one time by fraudulent joinder in a Zyprexa case, and one time because my colleague screwed up (NOT, fortunately, my partner). I have never lost, never settled, been deposed only once for one case,(the fradulent joinder case was dropped so as to avoid a counter suit for fraud by Lilly) and have always been dismissed. Therefore, I regard most cases as crap, and most jury time as wasted time.

In addition, some other classes of people get off Jury duty entirely. I, for example, if I was given a jury duty summons, would get my boss to get me off for medical necessity reasions as a rural inpatient hospital doctor. I wouldn’t be selected anyway—I’m an MD who has been an expert witness hundreds of times and has no respect for attorneys not named Debbie Schlussel, Ton Kratman, or Jennifer Rubin. I’m better educated and smarter than 99.99 percent of people selected for juries, I’m a rampaging Conservative, and I despise almost all attorneys living save for the 3 above (and one old ex-girlfriend who is a nice person.) But that’s just me.

Occam's Tool on September 29, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    OT, I just heard show on “Patent Trolls” and how they keep upstart companies from sometimes getting off their feet because some patent holders sue and sue without making a product. It was enraging and I was thinking (just today) how some lawyers have earned their bad connotation.

    Skunky on September 29, 2011 at 6:40 pm

      There are good and bad in all professions. But the last clown to sue me was suing me on a VERY technical matter, but could not find a SINGLE expert witness in the ENTIRE US who would testify for her against me. She was trying to say that it was a situation a layperson could understand (it was NOT), and fought her case until the Judge dismissed it on the State level and a DIFFERENT court and Judge did so on the Federal Level.

      Like I said, I have a jaundiced view of the legal system. I have spent perhaps five to seven years of my life under one lawsuit threat or another, won them all, never stepped in court, and now have IBS and hypertension. Maybe I have a grudge.

      But few attorneys I have met are like Debbie. I should add one more attorney to the list of those I like, only this one, I love. The attorney who helped me adopt my son in Guatemala waived her fee because he required specialist surgery, and she wanted that money spent on him. She is not just a good person, she is one of G-d’s Angels.

      Occam's Tool on September 29, 2011 at 9:13 pm

      Thought you might like this…
      http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/441/when-patents-attack
      It’s about companies that exist just to but patents and then sue.

      petebone on October 1, 2011 at 8:11 pm

I think these “softies” are easy going on Muslims because they are afraid of them and any retribution that may occur. The muslims’ terror campaigns have worked if that is actually the case. I cannot come up with another logical explanation for Americans and our institutions (courts, cops, etc) giving them so much latitude otherwise. Is it fear that drives so many to go easy on these people? Sad if so.

Ed on September 29, 2011 at 5:36 pm

Osama bin Laden praising him seems absolutely material to the case – it would show more motive – for the terrorist to gain extra recognition from a respected muslim leader as he was.

DS_ROCKS! on September 29, 2011 at 6:39 pm

I just hope the scumbag doesn’t get a jury composed of his peers.

Jarhead on September 29, 2011 at 9:34 pm

I want a juror in the jury that wants to be there and wants to do the right thing. Not some skank that has shown terrible judgement in her own life. Not some skank that has no sense of duty to country. Just my .02.

samurai on September 29, 2011 at 11:26 pm

There are probably a lot of newly registered welfare recipients who voted for Obama and who are being called to jury duty for the first time. Don’t let yourself wind up in court.

David Lanham on September 30, 2011 at 3:05 am

In Texas a woman (single or not) can be excused from jury duty if she has children under age ten. Probably Michigan is different.

IMO a fair chunk of the “divorced moms” should be lumped with “single moms” because too many women these days don’t choose wisely when picking a husband. Yes some do turn evil but usually there are signs. . .

tiarosa on September 30, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    Tiarosa, I agree with you 100%. EXCELLENT point!

    All together, it is a huge cause of the cultural rot we are experiencing today. Good on ya, Rosa. Great point!

    Skunky on October 1, 2011 at 11:23 am

      Skunky! Firstly my apologies for annoying you with my reply to your own. That most certainly wasn’t my intention. I merely wished to point out that assuming a prevailing situation doesn’t guarantee its accuracy.

      I blame nobody but myself for my situation – although I still maintain that there had been no previous indication of my late husband’s “proclivities” before we married, and I had known him since the age of 16 – even though we didn’t begin any form of romantic relationship until MUCH later. And I have worked VERY hard to support myself and my daughters, and have contributed considerably to my community while taking as little as I could in return. I don’t want a medal – a lot of women in my situation do the same – but I don’t want you thinking of me as a layabout good-for-nothing who has a hand out all the time, taking much and giving little. I’m not.

      But I REALLY have to take offence at your calling me a liberal! Madam, some things simply cannot pass, ahahahah ;P I am FAR from being a liberal, or a Liberal. Granted I am undoubtedly less to the right than you or Debbie, or indeed most of the people who reply here – but one swallow does not a summer make. I’m English, so our conservatism isn’t as far right-wing as yours is, but I DO consider myself to be so (even if our current majority governmental party is a disgrace to the name).

      But I AM truly sorry to have angered you. I have read many of your replies over the past while and, why I often find I disagree with you, I do admire your ability to back up your point both consistently and in a generally erudite manner.

      Best wishes!

      Alison on October 2, 2011 at 9:19 am

        Alison, I do not believe you are Liberal all around. I just think that the old “you have no idea unless you walk a mile in my shoes” argument is a real conversation stopper. It’s a technique that Liberals use to stop the argument AND to shame the opponent because the person using the technique believes that the opponent has not considered AT ALL the other persons side. That is not always true. Some people work very hard making judicious decisions to AVOID trouble down the road. It’s hardly ever fun BUT it does serve to aid in the person making better decisions. So that is truly the only Liberal thing I could accuse you of.

        And as I always say, when someone is defensive about an opinion, the FEELING supersedes the soundness of the argument. I understand it’s hard to feel as if one is attacked personally to want to defend a position, but if one does that without critical thinking, they are just hurting themselves.

        I am VERY passionate about the topic of single mums and broken families. I just want people to open their eyes to the damage being done to their own families and society as a whole. It doesn’t have to be this way but because of the 60′s, this nonsense if destroying lives that could have more stability in them.

        Skunky on October 2, 2011 at 11:41 am

          Dear Skunky,

          You are wonderful, as always.

          By the way, while we are dealing with ANOTHER RoP terrorist scumbag, 2 MORE Jews won the Nobel Prize in Medicine today. Subtracting the 9 peace prize winners, that’s 172 Jewish winners of Nobels. If one subtracts out the 13 literature winners, that’s 159 winners in Economics, Physics, Medicine, or Chemistry. NO other group of 13 million people have put up stats like that.

          Occam's Tool on October 3, 2011 at 2:37 pm

“I wonder if a “single working dad” would get the same privilege of avoiding jury duty in Judge Edmunds’ court.”

I don’t know about his court, but as the sole breadwinner of our household I was excused from jury duty because I couldn’t afford to not work. And I would have like to have done it.

petebone on October 1, 2011 at 8:24 pm

Whatever happened to this guy’s, um, anatomy, anyway? Blown off? Burned up? merely singed? Damn, never did see the details.

Maybe it will come out in trial. You have to be a member of one sick religion to go blowing off your valuables.

BethesdaDog on October 4, 2011 at 12:01 am

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