March 27, 2012, - 1:56 pm

Trayvon Martin’s Filthy Porno-esque Tweets: If Obama Had a Son, Would He Talk Like This?

By Debbie Schlussel

I hate to give credit to slimy faux-conservative Schmucker Carlson’s “Daily Caller,” after he attacked me on a national radio show (he couldn’t handle that the host, Bubba, mentioned and praised me during what was supposed to be his silly interview).  But the website got access to the entire Twitter account of Trayvon Martin (follow me on Twitter).  They didn’t highlight any of the tweets and I wasn’t about to read through all 152 pages.  But the few pages I went through read like the dirtiest sewer ever.  I think these would make even Larry Flynt blush (well, maybe).  Many of them are “retweets” (to those not on Twitter, that means you resend to all of your followers something with which you apparently agree).  But some are just the vile filth he himself thought up.  One of them, about the panties, was his that someone else retweeted.  I couldn’t find his original tweet.

More Disgusting Trayvon Martin Obama Tweets . . .


Gee, I wonder why his “grieving” mother, who filed with the US Patent and Trademark Office, isn’t trying to trademark the Trayvon panties tweet.  Sadly, if George Zimmerman is tried, he won’t be allowed to introduce any of this vile filth in his defense because it’s not considered relevant or “fair” to the “victim.”  Victim, indeed.  I know I’ll be pilloried by the left and plenty of jealous faux-conservatives for saying this, but with his criminal record and vile filth, it’s becoming more and more apparent that George Zimmerman may have unintentionally performed a service to the world.  How many more crime victims and sufferers of his violence would the world endure from this thug had he lived?

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it’s becoming more and more apparent that George Zimmerman may have unintentionally performed a service to the world. How many more crime victims and sufferers of his violence would the world endure from this thug had he lived?

Dear Debbie: You, as a lawyer, must know perfectly well that the question is not whether or not Trayvon Martin was a vicious thug. The question is whether or not he was beating up George Zimmerman when Zimmerman shot him.

Regarding those Tweets: One thing they show is that many people have lost any sense of the difference between public behavior and private behavior. (I got a email from a man once that ended the relationship right there.)If a man wants to send his girlfriend an email saying “Baby, I want to **** your ***** till you’re bowlegged,” and she enjoys getting it, that’s between the two of them. (He should, of course, look, very carefully, at the addressee, before he presses “send.” He wouldn’t want to send that to the wrong pary.) Such writing has no place on Twitter, where all the world can read it.

Miranda Rose Smith on March 28, 2012 at 3:34 am

    CORRECTION:

    (He wouldn’t want to send that to the wrong party.)

    Miranda Rose Smith on March 28, 2012 at 3:44 am

    wrong, wrong, wrong, . . . mankind are social creatures; and as such, in the over-arching court of public opinion, the larger question, has most to do with whether various of the public think that, with this incident, they’re better off. What if the recent spate of burglaries against that neighborhood have now, suddenly been turned off, . . .

    PhillipGaley on March 28, 2012 at 11:23 am

    Twitter is a public website. These “tweets” are not private, and can be seen by the world, hence why they are being seen now.
    I agree with you, that private business and public business are two separate things, but had this been emails exchanged between two people, then you would have sufficient ground to stand on. But this is not an email, these are public messages, which reflect public actions.

    Charles Wilson on July 14, 2013 at 2:26 am

One of the striking things about this whole episode is that it shows the defensiveness of the Republicans, and of most of us who are opposed to the railroading of Zimmerman. Most defenders of Zimmerman are on the defensive, trying to show that he isn’t guilty, and that the “stand your ground” law should be preserved, in the face of liberal and Democratic Party attacks.

This is fine, and of course I support Zimmerman and the “stand your ground” laws. But I remember earlier days, in the 60s, after the black riots in the major cities. At that time there was a real offensive from the right, although it didn’t last very long. We had “law and order” candidates and community leaders, and there was a large movement to restore law and order.

Where is such a movement today? Crime is outrageous, much of it is not reported for political reasons, and here we are trying our best to defend Zimmerman and our right to bear arms. Why haven’t we taken the offensive? Harsher jail sentences, support for the police to be able to do the jobs they are supposed to do, harsher community sanctions for the criminal element, like some were saying in the 60s?

Of course they are afraid of being called racists. Regardless of what happens in this case, an inability to take the offensive will surely lead to a further breakdown of the law, and a strengthening of anarchy, with penalties being imposed only on those who are following the law.

Little Al on March 28, 2012 at 6:51 am

Was Trayvon tresspassing on the gated community? That would not absolve a murder but if he than attacked a person on community watch the case for self defense is much stronger.

Also how come his father fiance not hearing about shooting.

The parents have been trying to whitewash Trayvon reputation. I am a Florida snowbird and I have been informed of guy who was found not guilty of shooting a neighbourhood kid. Because of critical racist (Sharpton, Jackson, Spike Lee etc. etc.) not being involved it was not a national issue
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/local-victims-families-insist-floridas-stand-your-ground-2261206.html

madman on March 28, 2012 at 10:03 am

Obviously it isn’t “Elvis’s” ghetto anymore….it’s a new situation that way too many people don’t realize and is way underground to them. And if Obama is re-elected it will surface, and frankly there will be alot of people not ready to what is coming from the subsurface surrounding people who have no idea they are surrounded at this very moment. In plain English, everyone will have to start really watching their back. I’m surprised frnakly we don’t have more incidences like this in this country with the amount of “protection” the citizens now carry.

Mike C on March 28, 2012 at 10:28 am

Not the clean-cut, college bound, proper English speaking young man his parents would have you believe he is eh? Oh well, as my brother in law, a 17yr veteran Philadelphia Police Officer says, “The apple never falls/rolls very far from the tree.” So true.

Roger on March 28, 2012 at 11:21 am

Black males kill their own 93%. Black males rape their own. Black males impregnate their own. As rapper KRS-1 rapped its Self-Destruction. The Black community has refused to reign in their own. People like Al Sharpton have blamed White people for all the ills of the Black community. And Zimmerman is Hispanic.

CaliforniaScreaming on March 28, 2012 at 12:23 pm

@Charls on March 28, 2012 at 1:30 am

Why aren’t you at the category five chimp out in Sanford wit da brothas?

FrenchKiss on March 28, 2012 at 12:45 pm

This is from Breitbart and now the Left wants the unperson George Zimmerman arrested for his “own safety”:

At a Congressional forum on the Hill yesterday at which killed Florida teenager Trayvon Martin’s parents were asked to testify, Rep. Frederica Wilson (D-FL) took center stage. She claimed first that Martin had been victimized by racial profiling and a “botched police investigation.” But she went even further: George Zimmerman, the shooter in the case, she said, should be arrested “immediately for his own safety.”

If this sounds like the Nazi German schutzhaft, it is. In Nazi Germany, one could apply to the Gestapo to be taken into custody for one’s own “protection”, which was literally true. Now you find liberals advocating people be imprisoned without due process of law. Like I wrote, the presumption of innocence in America has been trashed.

NormanF on March 28, 2012 at 12:51 pm

Last week I told one of the Security Guards at Our “Gated” Community of 1,500 Condo’s [age 55+] that there were two kids age approx 3 & 6 years old fishing in a small pond next to Our Golf Course. The “pond” has very steep and slippery sides.
One of the Guards asked them to leave and the older kid said,”I don’t have to” and added, “go away and don’t bother me”. The Guard left to get his Supervisor, when they returned the kids were gone.
The following day, I saw three kids fishing. One was approx. 16 yrs old, one maybe 12 yrs old plus the 6 yr old from the previous day. Again I told a Guard. The Guard informed me that the older Kid told him to “go f-ck yourself”, this is Public property [which its not]. “I can fish here anytime I want”. He started pointing a cell phone camera on the Guard and said he would report him for “child abuse”. The Guard did nothing and simply left. I later told him, he should have called the Police and tell them its private property, there are “no fishing” signs up, plus a “fishing license” is required in NY. Just “imagine” if one of those kids drowned. Our “fenced in” gated “Leisure Village” would be “sued” for millions!
All three kids are White, the Guard is from Costa Rica. THIS IS WHAT THE YOUNGER GENERATION IS BECOMING. SHAME ON US! DAN,NY
BTW: None of the kids live or have relatives here. If I see them again, I plan on “recording” them and then call the Police and have all the proper “Laws” of “tresspassing” and “fishing” regulations to hand to the Police and make sure that they give these kids a good “warning”, or press charges.

Dan on March 28, 2012 at 2:40 pm

So this guy would look like Obama if he were his son. As Phil Leotardo on The Sopranos said “Well, the turd doesn’t fall far from the faggot’s ass”.

CornCoLeo on March 28, 2012 at 4:18 pm

I ask again was Trayvon trespassing? It did not give Zimmerman the right to shoot him but if Trayvon attacked Zimmerman if should give Trayvon more right to defend himself.

madman on March 28, 2012 at 4:18 pm

If he’s Obama’s son that would explain why his name is Trayvor Martin, because, like father like son, he would be an identity thief.

CornCoLeo on March 28, 2012 at 4:25 pm

I’d like to know what gives the Panthers a legal right to put a bounty on an American Citizen who was never charged with a crime? Seems to me like they are looking to pay someone to committ murder, and not even a peep from law enforcement. Imagine the outrage if Zimmerman had been killed and the KKK put up a bounty on Martin.

theShadow on March 28, 2012 at 5:59 pm

[No Charls/Charly you’re the one who’s incapable of thinking, using logic, using critical thinking, etc. and you know that you lost the debate and that’s why you have the nerve to slander & libel and call Skunky a racist in which she is NOT.]

Sean R., not only are you stupid but illiterate as well. I didn’t lose the debate, I pointed out that everything DS has posted about Treyvon Martin is total BS. Martin has no history of violence whereas George Zimmerman does. I suggest you keep an eye on the news since it looks like Zimmerman’s defense is starting to fall apart. The lead investigator of this case wanted to charge Zimmerman but higher-ups told him not to.

As for Skunky, I consider calling the first Black First Lady, “Chewbacca” to be racist. And thinking that she can’t be a racist because her dad’s half-Mexican and half-Black is of course very stupid.

Sean R., I think you should get a refund for your college degree because they obviously did a lousy job of teaching you.What I don’t understand is how an idiot like got into college in the first place?

Charls on March 28, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    It seems like our useful-idiot dumbass friend leftist-Charls/Charly did the typical of “rush-to-judgement” on this issue, rather than hear from all sides of the story on this issue and also listen and get the entire facts, and here’s you’re little soapbox rant Charls/Charly (try spelling you’re name correctly, you’re the one who’s both stupid and illiterate for misspelling your name).

    “not only are you stupid but illiterate as well. I didn’t lose the debate, I pointed out that everything DS has posted about Trayvon Martin is total BS. Martin has no history of violence whereas George Zimmerman does.”

    First off, BULLCRAP and RUBBISH, secondly on monday Debbie pointed out Martin’s violent past, she even linked a link that article she wrote, and it’s NOT fabricated you doofus. Another thing dumbass, explain to me why Trayvon Martin assaulted a city-transit bus driver prior to his death since he had no history of violence? And also Charls/Charly, why was he suspended from school on marijuana issues (I know it has nothing to do with violence, but marijuana is an illegal drug)? Here’s you’re other sentiment Mr. Demagoguge:

    “I suggest you keep an eye on the news since it looks like Zimmerman’s defense is starting to fall apart. The lead investigator of this case wanted to charge Zimmerman but higher-ups told him not to.”

    Once again, BULLCRAP, you moron, the left wing media did what you’re doing right now is “rush-to-judgement” and only getting their information from one-side, to me that’s extremely bias, the left wing media should also get their information from Zimmerman’s end as well to even things out and NOT rush-to-judgement. Charls/Charly, NONE of us including Debbie is saying that Zimmerman is a hero and he should get a “key” to the city of Sanford, FL. But Mr. Zimmerman needs a fair trial and also he is “innocent-until-proven-guilty”, and also the state of Florida has it’s “Stand-Your-Ground” policy where you have EVERY right to defend yourself if someone is physically attacking you, this has to do with the “LAWS” my dumbass friend.

    And also, I am very PROUD of my education and I’m not getting any refund from the college I attended to, an I had a pretty good education as well. As for Skunky when she refers Ms. Obama to “Chewbacca” I think it’s pretty funny, you need a sense of humor and know what satire, ridicule, and irony is, that’s what Skunky was using when she refered Michelle Obama to that word. Oh and BTW, during the Bush days, there was alot of pictures of him drawn as a monkey and an ape, was that racist of you’re far-left ilk doing that? I said it once and I’ll say it again, you’re the one who’s the friggin racist Charls/Charly and YES you’ve lost the debate, all you’re doing is giving out the left wing MSM’s talking points in which it’s complete fabricated rubbish!

    “A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

    Sean R. on March 28, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    Ha-ha “Charly” you are the dope because “Chewbacca” is a fictional animal called a Wookie…he ain’t even human. But her face looks a lot like his…especially the eyes.

    I don’t care if you think I am raaaaaaaacist. You’re dumb and boring and are a concern troll and I get you annoyed because I live rent free in your empty brain.

    Sorry, I am NOT gonna pretend Michelle Antoinette is pretty. She is NOT. But you keep pretending she looks better than RuPaul on his WORST day because she doesn’t.

    Who cares what you think? Not ME!

    Skunky on March 28, 2012 at 10:17 pm

      yal Charly is an affirmative action..troll..give me give me and always the victim! poor poor victims! No wonder Africa never advanced (only continent that never had a universal language and they are still killing each other!) I agree with you —ugly!! geez…

      affirmative action–“if I only had a brain…”

      disgusting on March 30, 2012 at 6:16 pm

[No Charls/Charly you’re the one who’s incapable of thinking, using logic, using critical thinking, etc. and you know that you lost the debate and that’s why you have the nerve to slander & libel and call Skunky a racist in which she is NOT.]

Sean R., not only are you stupid but illiterate as well. I didn’t lose the debate, I pointed out that everything DS has posted about Treyvon Martin is total BS. Martin has no history of violence whereas George Zimmerman does. I suggest you keep an eye on the news since it looks like Zimmerman’s defense is starting to fall apart. The lead investigator of this case wanted to charge Zimmerman but higher-ups told him not to.

As for Skunky, I consider calling the first Black First Lady, “Chewbacca” to be racist. And thinking that she can’t be a racist because her dad’s half-Mexican and half-Black is of course very stupid.

Sean R., I think you should get a refund for your college degree because they obviously did a lousy job of teaching you.What I don’t understand is how an idiot like got into college in the first place?

Charlz on March 28, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    There is no such thing as black bigotry right Chariz? To be a bigot you have to jump to a conclusion without giving a thought to the evidence. Obviously you have all the facts.
    Trayvon was suspended for nothing, calling himself NIGGA demonstrates his pride I suppose. Dressing like a thug ditto.
    Where do you live Chariz, let me guess it has no resemblence to an integrated neighborhood, whoops I apologize I mean’t “hood” no disrespect.
    I don’t hate you, I pity you for having to live surrounded by Trayvons. What kind of father and mother would handicap their kid with a name like “Trayvon”. Maybe parents who despise whites and all they stand for, an attitude Trayvon obviously picked up on. You trained him well dad. I disagree that he deserved to die, but I agree that Zimmerman had the right to defend himself from a mad hateful thug who could take his gun and use it on him. If you dress in wolf’s clothing be prepared to be treated as one.

    Ron Wolf aka "Columbo" on March 28, 2012 at 10:23 pm

Zimmerman is the victim. I recently removed from my site a black website as they reserve the right to edit what is printed on it. And they did regarding the Trayvon affair. What if the internet was as available during the Tawana Brawly sham used by Sharpton to rally black hatred against whites. This is still done in every majority black public school today. We are the villains (whites), they call us white europeons to differentiate us from their so called muslim brothers totally ignoring history.
Zimmerman is a putz thats a given. The crime he committed was to disobey an order from an officer to back off. That is all!
Trayvon is the racist, he had the plausible motive as Zimmerman was a white man challenging him and just for that reason he assaulted him with the intent to cause bodily harm. Has anyone looked into the history of Trayvon’s father who obviously approved of his sons thug look? I guess even Obama approved of it as well, would not be surprised if he wears a hoodie and glasses at his next press conference. Looks better than the turban he wore in Kenya.
As many African-Americans are prone to do I will quote from scripture: “There is none so blind as he that will not see.”

Ron Wolf aka "Columbo" on March 28, 2012 at 9:54 pm

One less weed in the garden of society.

Karl Ketzer on March 29, 2012 at 1:36 am

Suppose he was horny little brick, does it mean it was ok to kill him? I like porn lot, does it make me less of human then anyone else?

Sam on March 29, 2012 at 11:31 am

Suppose he was a horny little punk that talks dirty sexual things on his tweeter. Does it make it ok to kill him? or run after the guy and kill? I like porn lot, so you think my life is less valuable than someone else?

sam on March 29, 2012 at 11:38 am

HEY CHARLY, TRAYVON IS PAYBACK FOR O.J.. LIKE HOW IT FEELS??
Y’all guys defended O.J. til the end knowing he was a double murderer.

Where is Fred Phelps and his protestors when we need them????

CaliforniaScreaming on March 29, 2012 at 11:55 am

[First off, BULLCRAP and RUBBISH, secondly on monday Debbie pointed out Martin’s violent past, she even linked a link that article she wrote, and it’s NOT fabricated you doofus. Another thing dumbass, explain to me why Trayvon Martin assaulted a city-transit bus driver prior to his death since he had no history of violence?]

Sean R.,

Once again you embarrass yourself with your stupidity. MARTIN HAS NO HISTORY OF VIOLENCE. The cops have stated that Martin has NO CRIMINAL RECORD. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT MARTIN BEAT UP A BUS DRIVER. This rumor was based on an ambiguous tweet to Martin.

[But Mr. Zimmerman needs a fair trial]

Well Duh?!? That’s exactly what the Martin family wants but can’t get because Zimmerman wasn’t charged. Seriously man, you better get a refund on your degree because you’re just making a jackass of yourself.

Charlz on March 29, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    Charlz/Charly/Charls whatever the hell you’re name is (and try spelling you’re name correctly you doofus) that is NOT a rumor where Martin assaulted a city-transit bus driver, I’ve READ on just about all websites on cyberspace, far as I am concerend buster if you assault anyone that is a “crime” and that’s a history of violence. Unfortuantely for you’re falling all over yourself over the left wing media’s BS of fabricated crap and only taking one side and NOT do real reporting.

    You’re the one who’s embarrassing yourself buster, not me, I know what I’m talking about, and I’ve read this story not just here on “debbieschlussel.com” but on all other sites as I’ve said in my last paragraph. Since you questioned my education (I have a good education and proud of it you asshole), what about you’re education wise-guy? You need to go back to school or get a refund of the school you attended to, because you’re the one who’s making a huge jackass of yourself of doing “group-think”, “group-talk”, etc. and NOT thinking for yourself and using critical thinking.

    “A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

    Sean R. on March 29, 2012 at 4:57 pm

Looks like WH incumbent is selective about his ‘father/son’ relationships. Family and friends of 2 British victims murdered in cold blood by 16 year old thug talk up……

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2121855/Friends-murdered-British-tourists-criticise-Obama-lack-compassion-failed-reply-THREE-letters.html

No political mileage obviously.

Eyes Wide Open on March 29, 2012 at 4:53 pm

“Gang Leader for a Day” is a very interesting book about black ghetto culture. It was written some time ago, but still has enough accuracy to explain the behavior of Jackson, Sharpton, and lots of the hoodie wearers. You can get the book at Amazon — and, no, I’m not the author.

reader on March 31, 2012 at 4:37 pm

I’m sorry for you, Debbie. You are a great example of what it means to be completely consumed by hate.

There is nothing remotely balanced or insightful or thoughtful in this post that doesn’t serve your agenda, and with such a provocative comment about doing the world a favor, it’s obvious what your real agenda is.. and it has nothing to do with race.

Got you one more hit I guess.

blah_se on March 31, 2012 at 11:02 pm

So are saying that George Zimmerman, a man with a history of violence did us all a favor by killing this 17 year old boy who said nasty things online, which makes him a thug of some kind? So because he said some nasty things online that warrants being shot? If we followed your logic two thirds of the world would be dead by now and at least 90% of the children raised in the 2000’s and late 90’s would be dead.

Aaron on June 29, 2012 at 2:35 am

You should be ashamed of yourself for writing such filth. I hope whatever financial benefit you receive from disparaging the life of an unarmed child, is worth the karma that you will undoubtably receive in the future. Do you have any valid reason to believe that Trayvon was trying to do anything other than walk to his home? Of course not. Whatever Trayvon wrote on Twitter is irrelevant. Do you really want to dissect the tweets of 17 year olds to somehow determine whether they should be shot to death or not? What type of human being are you? You sicken me.

Shawn on June 26, 2013 at 1:35 am

Disgusting. Not Martin, though. This entire “article” is disgusting. All these tweets are posted for what reason? To combat the depiction of Martin as an innocent, likable young man? News flash – you are naive and closeted if you think young men in modern America mirror Wally Cleaver in any way. Not all of them say, write, or think like this, but a great many of them do. In urban communities where neighborhoods and music and entertainment encourage such behavior, how do you think children will mature? To suggest that these tweets are proof that Martin was a “thug” reflect a privileged and racially fearful perspective. Human beings are more complex than these simple labels, and while I acknowledge that some young men earn such titles handily, a tremendous amount of information about Martin’s real life is being ignored here. Yes, he posted tweets like this. He had some trouble in school. So do MILLIONS of young men of ALL races, yet those same young men manage to remain loving and responsible members of their families or communities. The term “thug” is an easy way for you to demonize Martin, a convenient way for you to willfully ignore the things that made him deserving of life.

And that’s what’s at issue here – a life. I’m disgusted to see comments on this article that use quotation marks around the word “grieving” when used to reference Martin’s mother. As though her tears were an act! Horrible and shameful. Martin did not deserve to die, and anyone pointing to “evidence” showing otherwise is jumping the gun. “Oh, but Martin was witnessed beating Zimmerman senseless! So what do you say to that?” I say that eyewitness testimony is NOTORIOUSLY unreliable (seriously… read up on this established phenomenon; one guy saying he saw something is paltry evidence). I say that I would defend myself using physical violence if a gun was brandished in my face after I was returning home from a candy run, too. I don’t know what happened that night and I don’t know if Zimmerman is guilty, but I can think like a logical adult and rule lots of things out. Reading filth like this blog article makes me regret that you sensationalists are garnering the most attention and airtime in the media right now. I thank heaven you’re not on that jury.

D-san on June 29, 2013 at 1:58 am

The one thing is most vital here is when the police told Zimmerman are you following him in the police told Zimmerman to stop following him you dont need to do that. Had he followed those orders given trayvon, would be alive to day. Zimmerman is a coward in he can come to Detroit Michigan in try following me in see what happen.

De' Andre Allen on April 9, 2014 at 9:26 pm

Charly,

No one claimed Zimmerman was a saint. He was still lawfully exercising his legitimate right of self-defense.

And I don’t appreciate being called a racist because I look at all sides of it, not just how its been portrayed in the media.

When you look at Martin’s character, the very least it creates is reasonable doubt surrounding the circumstances of his death.

NormanF on March 27, 2012 at 2:54 pm

Norman F,

I still have mixed feelings on how Zimmerman handled the whole situation. When he got out of his vehicle, he escalated the situation. And due to the news headlines about so many sexual deviants preying on youth, today’s kids are paranoid. If someone sees an unfamiliar car following them and then the occupant gets out, anything can jump off. Whether Trayvon was an innocent teenager or a “thug”, Zimmerman should have stayed his ass in the car until the police arrived.

Now I do agree with you on the racial aspect of the killing. Had Trayvon’s killer been Black (as it is in most cases of Black male homicide), this would have been a blurb on the local news, with nobody mourning except his family and close friends, and community leaders shaking their heads saying, “We’ve got to do something about these young boys.” As tragic as the Trayvon Martin situation is, there is an even greater tragedy unfolding with the number of young Black men who are killing each other every day….

D. O'Nay on March 27, 2012 at 3:21 pm

Norman F:

See my comment, which regrettably posted above when I intended it to be posted below. Trayvon Martin was lawfully exercising his right to self-defense, not George Zimmerman. As Martin’s cell phone transcripts with his girlfriend proved, Martin felt that he was being pursued by a criminal who intended him harm and acting accordingly. Zimmerman on the other hand does not have the right to provoke confrontations and claim self-defense.

“When you look at Martin’s character, the very least it creates is reasonable doubt surrounding the circumstances of his death.”

It only does in the minds of someone bent on exonerating Zimmerman because he represents the “conservative side” in the racial debate, a debate that will be totally irrelevant in a court of law other than Zimmerman calling Martin “a (expletive) coon” before ignoring the 911 instructions not to chase him.

And fellas, despite what Ms. Schlussel is leading you to believe, any comparison of Zimmerman’s character versus Martin’s character will favor Martin, especially in the context of a court of law. You have marijuana residue and sexually graphic tweets on one hand, and you have Zimmerman’s two domestic violence arrests and one arrest for assault on a police officer on the other. Also, Zimmerman’s history will be depicted in the context that Zimmerman provoked the confrontation with Martin where Martin wound up dead. Schlussel’s claim “Zimmerman was clearly not the aggressor but was on his back being beaten” does not prove that Zimmerman did not provoke the confrontation, but rather that Martin was winning what he clearly – again, see the cell phone transcripts between Martin and his girlfriend – and with a ton of justification believed to be a fight for his life.

The idea that Martin had no right to be afraid of the guy that was chasing him in his car is outrageous, and the jury that convicts Zimmerman of manslaughter will certainly agree.

Gerald on March 27, 2012 at 7:13 pm

Bingo!

If the race merchants would do something about black on black killings, arguably the most important civil rights in Black America in our time, they would be doing a public service.

There is white racism to be sure but nowadays it doesn’t compare to people of your own race killing each other… a black person in America today has more chances of being killed in their lifetime by a fellow black person than a white one.

That is the real American tragedy.

NormanF on March 27, 2012 at 3:28 pm

Norman:

“If the race merchants would do something about black on black killings, arguably the most important civil rights in Black America in our time, they would be doing a public service.”

While it is a pressing social, moral and public policy issue, it is not a civil rights issue. I should point out that whites were trying to “redefine” civil rights issues away from, well, civil rights, during the height of Jim Crow. It was wrong then, and it is wrong now. You can say that civil rights leaders should stop being civil rights leaders and start addressing internal issues. That is more correct, but what happens when legitimate racial issues happen? What then? It is more correct to say that there need to be more black leaders addressing internal issues, and that such leaders need more exposure and support. I don’t disagree, but truthfully, what can any black leader or organization do to stop black crime, which involves the individual decisions of individual people? Not a whole lot. Don’t you think that if there was something that they COULD do, it would be done? To put it another way: do you think that the NAACP, Urban League, SCLC, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton etc. LIKE black criminality? That they SUPPORT it? That it fits their agenda in some way? Of course not. The truth: there isn’t squat that they can do about it, because there is no way to control the behavior of 42 million black people, because if they could they would. So, what you have is whites asking black leaders to do something that they know to be impossible because they prefer that to blacks confronting racism.

In this case, here’s the deal: there is NO WAY to make the case that George Zimmerman should not be subjected to a trial, and furthermore Jews would most certainly want a trial had it been a black man killing a Jewish person under suspicious circumstances. Now there is going to be a trial, and the facts and evidence is going to be presented. That is a good thing. But had it not been for Martin’s mother and father going to the media and the activists, the Sanford Police would have continued to sit on a case involving the death of an unarmed man who was minding his own business when Zimmerman confronted him despite 911 telling him not to. Those are the facts whether you like them or not. This is not a national racial controversy because of the actions of Martins’ parents, civil rights leaders, Obama or even Martin and Zimmerman, but because of the Sanford Police Department, and no amount of discussing a dead man’s Twitter account or suspension over marijuana residue is going to change that.

“a black person in America today has more chances of being killed in their lifetime by a fellow black person than a white one”

And a white person in America today has more chances of being killed in their lifetime by a fellow white person than a black one. Black people are far more likely to admit the threat of black crime (because the term “black on black crime” was coined by the black community I remind you) than whites are “white on white crime” because the “white on white crime” issue is useless to whites politically.

Gerald on March 27, 2012 at 8:38 pm

The police report documented Martin beating Zimmerman severely. That’s what led them and the local DA to clear the latter in the first place. Interesting that every one considers Zimmerman’s past relevant but not Martin’s. Cuz you have already made up your mind, then you’d be correct a jury hearing this case would do the same. But when a guy has already been tried, sentenced and convicted in the court of public opinion, a lot of things certainly are going to happen. Justice simply won’t be one of them.

NormanF on March 27, 2012 at 9:06 pm

THIS was democrat on democrat violence. OBAMA IS TO BLAME!

Alabama Pride on March 27, 2012 at 9:09 pm

As Norman already told you, if the Grand Jury comes back with an indictment it will most likely be due to this full-tilt social pressure. I would not celebrate THAT in the time of Casey Anthony jurors and American Amanda Knox supporters. It chills me to the BONE!

I have no idea why you are so outraged. I was pretty outraged with the Zimmerman character (with limited knowledge…but I knew SOME because the media would NOT stop talking about it and it trickled in every hour on the news updates) when the picture was a 13 year old innocent eating skittles.

Then the truth came out. THAT is when I got upset because AGAIN the media is writing the script and NOT reporting the TRUTH.

But for some reason you are holding on to the fake narrative with a kung-fu grip.

(In Boston, a thug just was exonerated (and his co-defendant miss trialed!) FOR a triple execution murder…including a little baby and the two people were forced to strip in the street and then shot dead. A drugs deal gone badly. It was black on black. The family marched to the Governors’ office after the verdict (Deval Patrick…a black man) but they will NOT get justice. And now, with this Treyvon crap going on, they will never be able to get anyone to care because see, it was black on black. I’m pretty disgusted by it all and if you have faith in juries today YOU are NOT paying attention!!!!!!)

Skunky on March 27, 2012 at 9:17 pm

Gerald,

Where is your outrage when two black teenagers jumped a white child, beat him then set him on fire all the while screaming you get what you deserve whitey. More white people are killed by black people then white people Gerald – do your research.

MRobs on March 28, 2012 at 11:09 am

@Skunky:

I am not outraged. (Now the Zimmerman defenders on this site on the other hand seem PLENTY outraged.) I was happy when the Florida attorney general announced a grand jury on April 10. Now Ms. Schlussel can tell you about the nature of grand juries: they can indict a ham sandwich. The only question is what charge it will be: 2nd degree murder, voluntary manslaughter or involuntary manslaughter. There will be a trial, and whatever verdict results, I will accept. Unlike you folks, who have already determined Zimmerman to be innocent and any verdict otherwise to be illegitimate because of your racial and political views. Which makes you no better than the O.J. jury.

I am still waiting on somebody to acknowledge the cell phone transcript of the clearly terrified Martin to his girlfriend. You can either A) keep ignoring it or B) take the ridiculous position that a black male has no right to fear being a victim of crime.

Gerald on March 27, 2012 at 9:32 pm

@NormanF:

Chase me down in your car in the middle of the night and I will beat you severely too, or at least try to. If you wouldn’t do the same to me if I chased you down in the middle of the night, I would certainly like to know why, because I would HOPE that you would have the personal courage and morality to at least TRY to defend yourself from a criminal assailant instead of passively invite me to violate you in whatever way I choose.

A packing NRA member would have shot Zimmerman dead on the spot and not given it a second thought. Quit pretending otherwise.

Gerald on March 27, 2012 at 9:48 pm

Gerald, I am outraged because the media is LYING and hiding facts. I already told you when I knew LIMITED facts on this case it made me think that Zimmerman was how they INITIALLY described them…then Monday morning Jim Quinn started deconstructing the “meme”. Then I saw DS beat him to it by 5 hours.

I am outraged because I want the FACTS not a bunch of political identity politics crap. I can’t stand that sh**. Nor the careful tip toeing by genital-less Conservative pundits.

And again, it seemed as if there would be NO GRAND JURY for GZ because the authorities did NOT see why because HIS story had credibility…a story we had NOT heard until MONDAY. Now, there IS gonna be a grand jury and they will most likely indict because of the public outrage…which is based on LIES and race pimps like Hi-Jackson, Sharpton, that racist puke Spike Lee (who has never and will never side with truth over race!!!!) and the Nation of Islam. I’m not standing with those cretins!!!!

Martin did not get to have his day in court because he acted the thug and he got shown what that holds for. I am assuming that since the authorities NEVER informed the public of the truth when Martin was still the faux innocent 13 year old skittles eater that they were NOT going to bring it to a grand jury.

But now, because of the racist animals, this is gonna go to trial. THAT is what I am against. I don’t like the media lying to prop up a fake story to support the so-called “minority” and I don’t like public pressure by a bunch of lunatics forcing an indictment that NEVER was gonna happen.

It’s a lynching of someone by public pressure and I will NOT stand with it because it’s a bunch of nonsense. Wake up!

Skunky on March 27, 2012 at 9:59 pm

Let’s say you’re right, he was afraid. Martin should still have identified himself to the neighborhood watch officer and waited for the police. He would still have been alive today if he hadn’t acted aggressively. And I agree there are slacker morons on juries. Which I why I wrote a jury hearing this is going to be influenced by motives other than the truth like the OJ Jury was. All I wrote was based on the facts, Zimmerman had grounds for legitimate self defense. Now if the State Of Florida wants to waste taxpayer money to appease the mob and retry Zimmerman, it has that right. Its just that justice is not going to be done because Zimmerman won’t receive a fair trial and you’re like all his own accusers in saying he should be sent to prison. What ever happened to a man’s presumption of innocence? Whether you like it or not, he is still entitled to it and he should get a fair trial, regardless of whether you approve of what he did or not, because this is still America.

NormanF on March 27, 2012 at 10:47 pm

@Skunky:

I will reply to your response – which entirely ignores the facts of the case mind you – by asking you a simple question. How should Martin have responded to the criminal that was chasing him? Please answer that question directly and leave out the ancillary stuff: the liberal media, Obama and the civil rights leaders, black crime statistics, and what have you. Instead, deal with the fact proven by the cell phone transcript of the conversation between Martin and his girlfriend that Martin believed Zimmerman to be a criminal chasing him. Tell me what Martin should have done. Or better yet, tell me what YOU would have done, especially if you were exercising your second amendment rights to carry a firearm.

That is the thing, Skunky. Everyone is using the fact that Zimmerman is Hispanic as evidence in his favor. You would have used Hispanic on white crime statistics to support your belief that he was a criminal and justify filling him with lead. You know that it is true, Skunky. Just be intellectually honest enough to admit that the last thing that someone is going to think when pursued in the middle of the night that their pursuer is a neighborhood watch captain instead of a mugger or rapist.

This would require applying the same standards to Martin as you would yourself. As I told NormanF above, Martin reacted the same way that I would have. And as I told you, Martin reacted the same way that Amadou Diallo did. And as I told Norman F also, Martin reacted the same way that I personally hope that you would. I would hope that you would fight back, Skunky. And I refuse to call Martin a thug for doing so. If you do so, well I hope that you are not creating a standard that you yourself have no intention of living by yourself. Because had you shot Zimmerman that night, these same conservatives would be calling you a 2nd amendment hero.

Gerald on March 27, 2012 at 10:16 pm

Gerald, how many times have I posted what I will say AGAIN??? Is this “GroundHog Day”?

How would I have reacted if stopped by a Neighbourhood Watch dude? I’m a girl NOT a thug so I would tell him that I was going so and so. If it was a THUG who approached me it would be different…I have taken TWO RAD classes so I know how to get away FAST.

When the Obama-Media was initially LYING and and portraying Martin as a cute, 13 year old skittles eater i assumed by the top of the hour reports that Zimmerman shot him for NOTHING just because he was a black child. This outraged me!!!!

Then I found out he was not 13 and he is (or was) a thug and i would assume someone of Martin’s ilk wanted to act the thug…and now that the truth is getting out HE was beating the sh** out of Zimmerman and that Zimmerman was screaming for help (before Monday the report was no one knew who was screaming BUT many assumed it was Martin because then he was still the innocent 13 year old skittles eater).

What does any of this have to do with the TRUTH? That now, due to public pressure out for blood that Zimmerman is gonna have to give a pound of flesh to the lynch mob.

Gerald, unlike you I have ZERO Liberal guilt. Zero. It’s all purged and will NEVER return. I just want the facts!

Skunky on March 27, 2012 at 10:42 pm

Its not a crime to follow someone. Its a crime to assault them.

Simple and straight.

NormanF on March 27, 2012 at 10:49 pm

@Skunky:

0. Why would I possess liberal guilt? Think carefully about my background before you answer that question.

1. It is “Groundhog Day” because you refuse to answer the question directly.

2. “How would I have reacted if stopped by a Neighbourhood Watch dude?” I am sorry, Skunky, but this is evidence of my assertion in 1. It is known based on the cell phone call transcript that the frightened Martin did not know that Zimmerman was neighborhood watch, but thought that Zimmerman was a criminal pursuing him. And we also know based on Zimmerman’s own statement to the police that he did not identify himself as neighborhood watch to Martin.

Skunky, based on your own responses, it is clear that you are no more interested in the truth than the people wearing hoodies to these rallies. So, there is no point in continuing this discourse, but it is fruitless because you are determined to reject the fact that Martin believed Zimmerman to be a criminal. Groundhog Day? I feel the same way because you good folks still refuse to deal with the transcript of the cell phone call that a terrified Martin made to his girlfriend. You can’t because it forces you to acknowledge that Martin was acting in self-defense, or at least believed himself to be.

Gerald on March 27, 2012 at 10:57 pm

All right NormanF. Again, let you or anyone else start chasing me in the middle of the night and see what happens to you. But before you do, please know that I am registered to own a firearm, and I have also had plenty of target practice.

The transcript of the cell phone call proves that Martin felt that he was being pursued by a criminal, and neither you or the other “conservatives” on this page has the basic morality or sense of honesty to acknowledge it. Well hey, it sucks to be you. Glad that I am not in your shoes, because they must be painful.

As I said, you folks are no different from the people at those rallies wearing hoodies. You are no more moral. You are no more honorable. You are no more interested in truth, justice, law and order. You are the same. As for me, I am not. Does that make me better than you? No. It just makes me different.

And in closing I will repeat: do to me what Zimmerman did to Martin and I will do my level best to shoot you dead without hesitating.

Gerald on March 27, 2012 at 11:10 pm

I agree with you! Too bad they can’t figure that simple strategy out! We have a white/black racist President who started a racial war against all hispanic white Americans…

disgusting on March 30, 2012 at 6:22 pm

@NormanF:

“Let’s say you’re right, he was afraid.”

There is no “let’s say you’re right” NormanF. We know from the transcript of the cell phone conversation that Martin had with his girlfriend that he believed Zimmerman to be a criminal chasing him. And according to Zimmerman’s own testimony, Martin had tried to run away from Zimmerman once only to have Zimmerman chase him down with his car. It is simply a fundamental unwillingness to be honest based on the facts that you are privy to to pretend as if there is any possibility other than the fact that Martin was scared witless, and justifiably so.

So what are you going to do, Norman F? Recite some facts about how due to statistics on how blacks commit the vast majority of crimes in this country and that blacks are far more likely to victimize nonblacks than vice versa, or that because statistically a black person is more likely to victimize another black person that Martin should have have been afraid? Go ahead and talk about Obama, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the NAACP, affirmative action, the Great Society, and what have you, but none of that is going to make a bit of difference when Martin’s girlfriend testifies to the jury.

“Martin should still have identified himself to the neighborhood watch officer and waited for the police.”

Martin did not know that Zimmerman was neighborhood watch. And if you expect me to believe that you would have given your name to some mugger or rapist or some kidnapper pervert trying to throw you in the trunk of their car and then stood and waited for police, you are lying. You are coming up with some fantasy nonsense to suit your political grievances. If some criminal is chasing you, you are either going to run or fight just like Martin did. Or at least I HOPE that you would, and not just stand there screaming or catatonic like the female victims in horror movies.

“He would still have been alive today if he hadn’t acted aggressively.”

No, Zimmerman wouldn’t be on his way to jail right now had he obeyed the 911 operator had he not acted like a hero. And I tell you, NormanF, you chase me with your car in the middle of the night and I will show you what aggression is. Unlike Martin, I am of legal age to carry a firearm. I firmly believe that it is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6, and will act accordingly.

“All I wrote was based on the facts, Zimmerman had grounds for legitimate self defense.”

All I wrote is based on the facts, Martin had grounds for self-defense. You are not obligated to wait for a criminal to “strike the first blow” before defending yourself, and if the criminal is bigger than you – as is the case with Zimmerman and Martin – I would REALLY suggest that you don’t. So, Martin didn’t know judo where he could have used Zimmerman’s aggression against him. So sue him. Oh wait, you can’t because he’s dead.

Black males don’t have the right to defend themselves from criminals. Black males have to accept the collective burden of guilt for crimes committed by other members of their race and allow any nonwhite person who chooses to act in a threatening manner towards them to do so. Is that your position, NormanF? Because it certainly seems like it is. It certainly seems like you feel that Martin should have presumed that Zimmerman wasn’t a criminal just because Zimmerman wasn’t black. Or that he should have been less zealous in defending himself from Zimmerman just because Zimmerman wasn’t black. Sorry, NormanF., I won’t accept that logic, and neither would a jury. And again, I would honestly discourage you from chasing me down in a car in the middle of the night because if you do so I will shoot you dead. And when law enforcement comes, I will reply “What was I supposed to do? The guy was chasing me.” Self-defense. I walk. You’re dead. End of story.

“Now if the State Of Florida wants to waste taxpayer money to appease the mob and retry Zimmerman, it has that right.”

Again, a refusal to deal with the facts. The state attorney general had already set a date for a grand jury before you probably even knew about this case. And before the grand jury date was set, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement had already determined the Sanford Police Department investigation to be woefully inadequate and started their own.

And Zimmerman was tried already? When did that happen? I guessed I missed it. Doesn’t double jeopardy protect Zimmerman from a trial? Oh, wait. Zimmerman HASN’T been tried yet. Instead, he was found to have acted in self-defense by the same Sanford Police Department that refused to release the 911 tapes, claiming “the investigation is still underway” (which was a lie) and without even knowing about the cell phone transcript that discredited Zimmerman’s statement to the police.

“Its just that justice is not going to be done because Zimmerman won’t receive a fair trial and you’re like all his own accusers in saying he should be sent to prison.”

In that, I am no different from you and your ilk that has already determined that he is innocent. I will not repent of refusing to accept the self-defense claims of a person who provoked a confrontation with his own reckless actions.

“What ever happened to a man’s presumption of innocence?”

You mean the presumption of innocence that Trayvon Martin never got? Sorry NormanF, the law is the law. Even if Trayvon Martin is generally inclined to criminal behavior, there isn’t a bit of evidence that he was involved in criminal activity when Zimmerman began pursuing him. If such evidence existed, either Zimmerman or the Sanford Police would have provided it long ago. You can take the “Zimmerman took this kid out before he became a real problem” stance if you choose, but the law sees things differently.

“Whether you like it or not, he is still entitled to it and he should get a fair trial, regardless of whether you approve of what he did or not, because this is still America”

Talking out of both sides of your mouth, NormanF. I have already stated that I only wish for Zimmerman to stand trial for shedding the blood of a young man who was minding his own business before Zimmerman provoked a confrontation with him, and would still be alive today had Zimmerman simply obeyed the 911 dispatcher instead of trying to play hero. If a jury decides that Martin should have waited a bit longer before trying to defend himself, I will disagree but I will accept the verdict. Juries in places like Seminole County tend to side with police officers – and “neighborhood watch captains” – in disputes like this; a fact of which I have long been aware of and accepted as a fact of life. I just want there to be a trial, period.

But NormanF, your outrageous claim that were it some big black man chasing you in the middle of the night, you would have given him your name and waited for police arrive proves that you are no more interested in truth and justice than the people attending these rallies. Take a look at yourself in the mirror fella. You are being just as dishonest as they are. And no number of black crime statistics that you quote is going to change that.

Gerald on March 28, 2012 at 12:12 am

Gerald, you’re wrong! NO ONE is gonna win this thing that has because a huge f**king mess because THE TRUTH was NOT doled out properly as it SHOULD HAVE BEEN. It’s a bunch of lies and crap all mixed up to serve separate purposes!!

FIRST I heard dribs and drabs by the lying Obama-Media Press. THAT was not helpful (although you would have loved my opinion THEN because I thought Zimmerman was overzealous and did an awful thing when now I believe he acted in self defense!).

The Conservative pundits are too cowed by the “racial” thing to have strong opinions on this mess (but then again with the TRUTH not being 100% told why even take a stance??? It’s just like the fraudulent reports of Columbine!!!).

Racist blacks can get their hits in by a “hate whitey” free for all card. Enter the usual suspects like Jesse HiJackson, “Weird” Al Sharpton and perpetual racist Spike Lee.

The Dems are gonna be on board for the shamless “Race Pimps Inc.” because they don’t want to seem raaaaaaacist and go for a stronger hit at the 2nd Amendment.

People are going to make $$$ off of this mess…with Martin’s mum trademarking everything for glory, fame and $$$. And those horrible T-Shirts saying “Pussy Ass Cracker”.

Zimmerman will NOT get a fair trial if this goes to trial. Norman has explained that ad nauseam.

Youth are already looting and ransacking stores in the name of “Obama’s son”. Not for the dead kid BUT for their own selfishness and thuggery!

Obama is a racist so he will use the heat from THIS mess to get black votes and to stoke race wars because he does NOT see us as Americans but in subgroups. That’s why he could NOT wait to opine on this matter when he should have SHUT UP.

The Black Panthers and The Nation of Islam will get more DUMB members due to the heat of this hot topic.

So stop acting like you are the only respectable and proper person in this mess.

I re-read ALL your posts and every thread on this matter and I still DO NOT agree with you. Sorry, you’re wrong. I agree with Norman.

Skunky on March 28, 2012 at 1:01 am

Gerald,

The transcripts of that cell phone tell us only one side of the story. Neither of us was there that night.

Martin’s girlfriend is NOT a witness to the altercation between Martin and Zimmerman and cannot speak to the facts at issue. It may illuminate Martin’s state of mind but does nothing to clear up what really happened between them.

Its very unusual for state law enforcement authorities to overrule a local jurisdiction on a criminal matter. Please don’t insult my intelligence and that of other people by telling us neither public pressure nor politics were involved in the Attorney General’s decision to review the case.

Zimmerman has already been tried in the court of public opinion. You ignore it and act like its going to be tabula rasa in front of a jury. It won’t be and that is the truth.

What political grievances? Nothing gave Martin the right to assault Zimmerman and as for the use of force, I’m not one to second guess someone’s use of it, given the circumstances. You say I’m a hypocrite but you’re the one who is not giving Zimmerman the benefit of the doubt.

Since you say you wouldn’t wait for the police in the middle of the night, I find it interesting that you think Martin had the right to defend himself but Zimmerman doesn’t. And you want the latter put on trial because the vox populi wants to hang someone, any one because it looks like a racial incident.

And I bet if Zimmerman was black instead of being Hispanic, this wouldn’t be an issue. As Debbie noted, we’ve heard ad nauseum about Trayvon Martin and very little about the guy accused of killing him. Again, this is America and regardless of how you feel about what Zimmerman allegedly did, he has the right to be presumed innocent. But every one wants his blood and its fascinating the same Left that usually gives every benefit of the doubt to a criminal defendant is suddenly gung-ho on law and order.

Think about that when you say I make outrageous claims. Nothing is more outrageous than the grandstanding that has accompanied this situation.

NormanF on March 28, 2012 at 1:48 am

[@Skunky:

0. Why would I possess liberal guilt? Think carefully about my background before you answer that question.]

Skunky can’t think, she’s a complete moron and a stupid racist to boot!

Charls on March 28, 2012 at 1:30 am

“you good folks still refuse to deal with the transcript of the cell phone call that a terrified Martin made to his girlfriend”
Gerald on March 27, 2012 at 10:57 pm

What was the source of the transcript?

theShadow on March 28, 2012 at 5:37 pm

Now “CHARLY” it’s raaaaaaaacist to you.

And other than you calling me a racist and NEVER proving it (it’s very boring just like YOU) the other thing that makes me laugh at YOU is your limited vocabulary.

You always say “stupid”, “moron”, and “idiot”. Get a new repertoire you crashing bore.

I’m living in your empty head 24/7. There is plenty of room!!!!

Skunky on March 28, 2012 at 1:39 am

No Charls/Charly you’re the one who’s incapable of thinking, using logic, using critical thinking, etc. and you know that you lost the debate and that’s why you have the nerve to slander & libel and call Skunky a racist in which she is NOT.

You really are boring and un-original Charls/Charly, you don’t add NOTHING substinate to the discussion on this blog. You see Charls/Charly when I was a teenager over a decade ago I used to be like you, very lazy, didn’t use critical thinking, didn’t use logic, etc. But after I graduated from college I started to use alot of critical thinking, think for myself and no longer do “group-think”, “group-talk”, etc. like what you’re doing. And Skunky has kicked you’re sorry ass and embarrassed you in these debates over the last number weeks, months, etc. and when you start to use personal attacks, etc. you know that you’ve lost the debate with her or any of us who commented here.

So go back to LoonWatch, DailyKos, Huffington Post, Democrat Underground, Little Green Footballs, Think Progress, Media Matters, etc. and share you’re dopey and lazy intellectual thinking with those loons!

“A nation is defined borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on March 28, 2012 at 2:07 pm

Thank you Sean!

The crashing bore “Charly” has her/his anger on but that’s just about it. This Libbot only knows what it feels like to be a Libtard and not how to debate.

Personally, I get a kick out of trolls when they post, especially if they post very short unsubstantive posts because it screams they can’t debate. We always know how they feel but they never can break the argument.

I see them and the “dumb liberal” neon sign goes off in my mind and I laugh at them.

Skunky on March 28, 2012 at 5:06 pm

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