May 3, 2012, - 3:01 pm

Hey, Another Non-Trayvon Story That Doesn’t Meet the Race Narrative: 4 Black Men Beat White Marine to Death

By Debbie Schlussel

Yet another murder you won’t see Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton protesting . . . or all of the major news networks and media outlets covering like it’s the story of the year.  Now, if it was the reverse and four White thugs beat to death a Black U.S. Marine who served two tours of duty in Iraq, this would be top o’ the news all over the place. Oh, and “conservative” race-baiter and National Review editor Rich Lowry would be outraged, the way he was for Trayvon Martin (and praised the Black Panthers and Sharpton). But when it’s four Black men beating the White U.S. Marine to death, it’s the sound of crickets chirping.


U.S. Marine Zachary Gamble (w/ Son Luke) Beaten to Death by Four Black Thugs

Police have arrested four suspects in connection with the beating death of a former U.S. Marine who was found unconscious outside of a party at a Cobb County, Georgia, apartment complex in March.


According to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Arthur Batchelor, 37, Tarell Secrest, 36, and Jason Hill, 35, were taken into custody on Tuesday for allegedly killing 34-year-old Zachary ‘Zach’ Gamble. Another suspect, 38-year-old Sean Hall, of Atlanta, was arrested on Monday. . . .

All four suspects have been charged with felony murder, aggravated assault and aggravated battery. They are being held without bail in the Cobb County Adult Detention Center, police say. . . .

When officers arrived on the scene, the 34-year-old man was discovered unconscious on the ground. Police, however, believe Gamble’s fatal injuries did not stem from being hit by a vehicle.

Gamble was taken to Wellstar Kennestone Hospital in Marietta, where he was removed off life support on April 8 without ever regaining consciousness.

While Gamble’s autopsy results have not been made public, the victim’s relatives have said that Gamble died from severe head trauma . . .

Gamble, who served two tours of duty in Iraq between 2001 and 2005, is survived by his 7-year-old son, Luke.

How sad that this man served his country and twice survived the infestation of Islamic terrorists, only to return home and get beaten to death by the people he served and whose freedom he protected. Disgusting.

But, again, no Treyvon Martin-esque media outrage for him.

Reader Duane:

Under any circumstances if a black marine were to be beaten to death by 4 white thugs you would have Shartpon, Jackson, NBPP, the MSM, and half a dozen Justice Department officials would be there ready to bring the racists to justice, but this will go largely ignored.

Exactly.

Say a prayer for Zach Gamble. May he rest in peace. And say a prayer for his fatherless young son and his mother, who must bury her son.

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119 Responses

@ petebone(head) “Do you really think if a black guy shot a white kid walking home none of the news would carry the story?”

Typical progressive disingenuous misinformation. I was going to say that either you get all of your “news” from the MSM or that you are being disingenuous by trying to assert a fallacy. I think you’re just being a douche.

Of course you know that VAST numbers of heinous, gruesome and brutal, newsworthy stories of black-on-white crime are ignored by the MSM and/or the race of the assailant is covered up.

No, petebonehead, white are shot by blacks every day and when they are reported it simply would say “boy shot walking home from school”, just as it always does.

Knock off your lame agitprop here and go blather on your liberal boards with your Obamautomaton buddies.

DS_ROCKS! on May 4, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    DS_Rocks, you’re talking to a sad, effete wimp who ALWAYS sides with the Progressives. So when he says a side(s) won’t budge he is PROJECTING as he always does.

    Those with a brain changed sides (like me) when they realized the MSM was trying to dictate the story and that Trayvon was not a chubby-cheeked 13 YO and that Zimmerman was not a white KKK member overtly looking for black blood.

    PLUS he only posts to be a contrarian critic and yet no amount of level-headedness (that is usually here) will change his bone-headed mind. He’s sticking with his side, truth be damned!

    He also only comes out when gay or race stuff is being discussed because he knows NOTHING on almost everything else.

    Skunky on May 4, 2012 at 2:54 pm

      Skunky: “sad, effete wimp” lol! – I love the way you write!

      DS_ROCKS! on May 4, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    A ‘group’ (media word) of blacks (I will NOT call them AFRICAN-AMERICANS because either you’re an American or you’re not) attacked 2 Virginia Pilot staff members at an intersection, beating them. That was 2 weeks ago and it’s just now coming out. The newspaper chose not to report it because the police reported it as ‘simple assault’. Again, it was a gang of whites beating 2 blacks….well that’s another thing all together. Again, it was swept under a rug.

    Proud American Infidel on May 4, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    I can think of many stories here in Seattle, (this place is not the liberal haven everyone thinks it is), about blacks committing crime against whites. It seems pretty regular and it’s never reported as “boy shot walking home from school.” I

    Also, when was the last time a black/brown/tan kid was kidnapped and the media covered it?

    And Skunky we’ve been thought this before if you haven’t got the stones to talk directly to me I wish you’d just stay the eff out of it.

    PS “I just think your being a douche.” You stay classy DS_Rocks

    petebone on May 4, 2012 at 9:52 pm

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton , neither of who can be described as real men of honour or with a record of non racialism, should be held responsible for all the new victims who will be brutalised in the name of Trayvon Martin by blood thirsty idiots who take these scoundrols, parading as holy men, serious. They have exposed the fact that they do not believe in justice but rather in judging men on colour rather than facts. People talk of radicals in other parts of the world but these two men are just as terrible because from their recklessness flows mob justice and injustice.

Llewellleo on May 4, 2012 at 2:45 pm

Everyone is a racist and it doesn’t give any of them an excuse to do this kind of crap jeff. Your making excuses for them and for tre or whatever his name is. They did this to a guy that not only had a kid, but protected people like you and tre or whoever else out there that thinks they have an excuse and use the race card crap. I am disgusted by people like you jeff and these thugs or whatever they are, for as much energy that was put into all these marches and crap they could use that to clean up their neighborhoods and better themselves, instead they sit there and get reverend jackson or the ambulance chaser to make a huge hub bub about it and do nothing to solve the problems in their own backyard. race card is a crock and all this racism every where or whites are the only ones that are racist is crap too. Society is what has everyone believing this junk. Anymore its just an excuse for people to be lazy and not put the work in that needs to be done.

jb on May 4, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    jb,

    “Your making excuses for them and for tre or whatever his name is.”

    I am not makine any excuses for them. Read ALL my posts on this thread.

    Here’s my first comment that I wrote on this thread (click on “OLDER COMMENTS”):

    [“Zach Gamble, RIP. May his memory be for a blessing. And may G-d bless the Gamble family with strength and comfort to the Gamble family.

    Thank you for reporting this story, Debbie. The LSM and faux conservatives’ double-standards by ommission is disgusting. I also agree with reader Duane as quoted by Debbie and with all the other comments in this thread as of this writing.”

    JeffE on May 3, 2012 at 5:32 pm]

    I am not going to repeat or summarize what Debbie and others have said. Read them.

    Here is also what I wrote on this thread (this current page):

    [“…The four black people who beat up the Marine are indeed racists. …”

    JeffE on May 4, 2012 at 1:08 am]

    How is that making excuses for them? The answer is that they are not. In case I was being too ambigious for you, let me also say that what the four black men did to the Marine, that I hope that they get the death sentence and then rot and burn in hell.

    Also I did not make any excuses for Trevon Martin, in your saying that I did you either can’t read or are lying about me. I said that I did not like the LSM media’s double standard on this and the Trevon Martin/George Zimmerman situation situation. In case you didn’t notice, the LSM bias is in FAVOR of Trevon Martin, not against. Also I have a low opinion of the race baiters Jesse Jackson and “Wierd Al” Sharpton.

    You are upset at me because I have also condemned racism against black people as well. The two are not mutually exclusive. Blacks generally are no more responsible for the actions of these and other black thugs than all white people are responsible for the actions of the KKK and other like minded groups. For evidence, read Sean R.’s comments. He has stated the exact same thing as I have and he’s black. He and I have already identified other regulars here with the same stance. If you are upset at me because of this position, too bad, and go back to Stormfront along with Eric, but either way, QUIT LYING ABOUT MY POSITIONS.

    JeffE on May 4, 2012 at 8:10 pm

Don’t expect any MSM to carry stories like this, they need Obama re-elected and this might hurt.
Along with his racist AG, Holder, they are no different than Taylor or Mugabe.
This “Reign of Terror” by Obama and Holder has to end and REAL justice needs to be served.

Rick L on May 4, 2012 at 3:25 pm

Wow!!! Such racism on here!!! Every single one of you should be ashamed of yourselves for making statements related to race, period!!! You show your ignorance wide and clear!!! The fact is, it’s amusing to see you guys tie this story to Obama, let’s get real here, what does he have to do with it? Plus this story is from March, when it was covered, and the arrests were covered!!! Stop trying to make this a “race war” when one doesn’t exist. Did these four murderers say they killed him because he was white? What if they simply targeted him to rob and kill him? I mean, let’s use a portion of our brains here, and say, this isn’t correct, and we hope these guys get life in prison or the death penalty, but to try to blame the media for covering, but no national outcry over this, is ridiculous. Let’s keep in mind these guts were caught and arrested, the big stink in the Martin case, was Zimmerman NOT being arrested, even after the lead detective originally recommended it. I’m not passing judgement on the Martin Case, I’m just simply stating, that’s why there was a huge stink about it, he wasn’t arrested in the case. Had he been arrested initially, it’d never been a huge national outcry.

Pthil on May 4, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Imbecile, where NOT being racists here, so please quit doing the “Boy Who Cried Wolf” and call people racists for no reason, it’s getting old, boring and unoriginal, if you want to criticize some of us, then ok, be original instead of doing the BS of racisim, I’m really sick and tired of it.

    To me this ought to be a “hate-crime”, because four black guys assaulted and killed a white US Marine Corp. dude and for what? The problem is that the “media” barely mentioned this story and swept it under the rug, can’t you actually see that buddy? And NO none of us are calling for a race war, so you owe us an apology for slandering folks like myself (and I happen to be a black person BTW, so go ahead an say that I’m a self-hating black person, BULLS___T!) and the rest of the posters for not knowing where exactly where coming from with this sad story.

    “A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

    Sean R. on May 4, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    All I see in the comments that are on this story is black this white that. People are so anxious to put a color driven motive on attacks nowadays. Why not put more effort and mind power towards the fact that innocents are being murdered. Good people are falling victim to animals. Groups of people, regardless of what color they are, are going out and committing heinous crimes, taking lives, ruining families and leaving destruction in all directions. Focus on the big picture instead of honing in on their ethnicity. Maybe if we stop putting these stupid race labels on things we could come together and try to fight back. Maybe as a whole we could put a stop to it or at least make it less frequent.

    prhymeexample on May 5, 2012 at 2:55 am

Check out this guys video: http://www.black-and-right.com/2012/04/02/video-of-the-day-163/

stevec on May 4, 2012 at 8:49 pm

@petty-How do you know the cops gave Mr. Zimmermann …atta boy… from the cops? Were you there? Seems your preconcieve notions have taken over your thinking.

Mario on May 4, 2012 at 10:44 pm

Over emphasizing the race, gender, sexual preference or any other discriminatory factor is only overshadowing the real issue. A MAN was murdered. Ignorant people come in all different colors. If I were beaten by a white person, seeing as I’m black, I wouldn’t want people that cared about me to so aggressively be outraged because that person was WHITE. I would want them to be outraged because they were a lowlife and they attacked another person. That whole treyvonne, or however its spelled, thing was overhyped. It should have been a story of a tragic slaying of a young, innocent boy by a grown as$ man. Like this story of the Marine. It should be that he was brutally & unjustly murdered. A MAN, not a white man, but an honorable soldier who risked his life for his country was taken from this earth and his family due to ignorance. The more you play into the race issue, the more divided we become and the more you lose sight of what’s truly important. PEOPLE are killing PEOPLE.

prhymeexample on May 5, 2012 at 2:45 am

You guys are all missing the point and would rather have a “who’s really right” contest than to accept the fact that you’re all clouded with mass racism hysteria. A MAN was MURDERED. Was beaten to death. Outnumbered, he lay in the street and shortly thereafter, DIED. Forget the color of the assailants. 4 ignorant, blood thirsty ANIMALS savagely brutalized a man who served and protected this country. Get over the races. Ignorance is ignorance. Crime is crime and WRONG is WRONG. Stop arguing about how uncovered the media left this story due to its color scheme and start being offended that someone so valiantly served for our freedom and had his life taken from him & his family on his one home turf. Stop with the childish bickering over “blacks” and “whites”

prhymeexample on May 5, 2012 at 3:15 am

    Prhymeexample, you’re sorta missing the point sir or maam, this incident should’ve been a “hate-crime”, four black guys assaulted and took the life of a white male who served this country for all of our freedoms and liberties, etc. And also my friend, the media swept this story under the rug and ignored it, only FEW sources worldwide reported this story and bought it to the table.

    Also regarding the Zimmerman-Martin story in Florida, what are your exact views on that issue, when you had race-baiters like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, New Black Panther Party, left wing media, etc. screaming racisim for lord knows what, like George Zimmerman went on out of his to deliberatley harm black people for his own pleasure (which was not the case). That story should’ve been a “local issue”, and NOT a national issue thanks to the liberal media, Sharpton, Jackson, NBPP, etc., and to put frosting on top of the cake, Obama demagoguged that incident by saying, “If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon Martin”, and you didn’t hear Obama said, “If I had another white friend, he’d look like Zach Gamble”!

    My friend, don’t you see the racial hypocrasy and racial double-standard here? When whites attack blacks and other minorities, it’s a hate-crime, but if blacks or any minority attacks a white person, it’s not labled a hate-crime, please see the double-standard and acknowledge what’s really happening.

    “A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

    Sean R. on May 5, 2012 at 3:40 pm

First of all NONE OF YOU know what you are talking about. Just because a person gets into a fight or altercation and the perps are of one race and the victim is a different race DOES NOT constitute it being a hate crime. Check the definition of a hate crime. That has to be the motivating factor in the case. Just because a black guy hits a white guy or vice verse doesn’t mean its a hate crime. ALSO, none of you know the REAL story. Only what you read or hear from the media. This was a part in which everyone involved was there. The victim initiated the conflict. Not to say he got what he deserved, but he was not innocent in the whole situation (unlike Trayvon Martin). So stop comparing EVERY single issue with Trayvon Martin. Like someone else said, if they would have just arrested Zimmerman in the first place then there wouldn’t have been any outcry. White people (yeah I said it) never seem to see the whole picture……and for the IDIOT that said “Blacks” instead of African-Americans,one who is born in America is an American you DUMB ASS……..

Manson09 on May 5, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    You really mean’t to say you WHITE HONKY DUMB ASS, right? Hey, let it all hang out.

    Ron Wolf aka "Columbo" on May 5, 2012 at 4:16 pm

And another thing………it is funny how even before a trial or conviction people are so quick to find someone guilty……….whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Manson09 on May 5, 2012 at 3:54 pm

I meant to say it was a party in which everyone involved in this case and the victim were there

Manson09 on May 5, 2012 at 3:57 pm

I will make it one hundred comments. Will race be mentioned? Will the criminal backgrounds of the assailents be mentioned if any? NOOOOOOOO! YES, I assume by their actions they have felonious backgrounds. And, by the way, did anyone notice any anti-white remarks heard from this pack of animals in the past? Of course not.
But someone will probably accuse the dead father of using the N word. I know because I lived in a predominently black community and whenever there is a b vs w confrontation most likely someone will say the white guy used the “N” word. It even happened to me at a Pontiac Michigan City Council meeting where I objected to an anti-semitic rant by a speaker and was told to sit down.

Ron Wolf aka "Columbo" on May 5, 2012 at 4:06 pm

Here’s the difference, you uber-tr a m/p. These men were arrested and charged right away, while Zimmerman was walking around free for over a month after he shot and killed the unarmed teen. See the difference? Good.

Earl on May 5, 2012 at 8:25 pm

Story headline should read “a roving pack of black thugs murder white man in hate crime”

Truth on May 6, 2012 at 11:09 am

    You’re an IDIOT……it wasn’t a hate crime asshole. they all were friends, they went to the same high school together, they grew up together. but i guess its IMPOSSIBLE for that to be the case huh? (blacks and whites can’t grow up together and be friends from childhood) the victim was suffering from post traumatic stress from being in Iraq and was threatening to cut people’s heads off. This was not just some random attack or hate crime. No one deserves to be beaten to death or ANY kind of death, but i just wish people would stop categorizing this as a hate crime. and for the RECORD only one of the defendants has a criminal record for DUI…….the rest have a CLEAN record………Everyone who has made ignorant and racist assumptions/implications about this case should turn around and KISS THEIR OWN ASS…….

    FMM09 on May 6, 2012 at 6:54 pm

@Mario

The side that said wait for all the facts, never had an agenda. I would agree with that but I think there are a lot of people on both side of the issue that made up their mind at the start and have listened to the facts. Folks like Al Sharpton have from the get go yelled,”It’s RACE, It’s all about RACE!” Well folks on the right were yelling “It’s a 2nd amendment right! And it was self defense!” It pretty straight forward that it it neither a race thing or self defense. But neither side will listen.

I do think DS has used stories to make here own points. I only used the word hijacking because I think several times she has used stories that really fell outside the realm,(a story about Brain Davis that became about Tiger Woods, Tom Futton speculating about Obama becomes facts about Obama, even a story about a Lebonesse chef making the biggest serving of humus becomes all humus in Garden City supports terrorism.)

petebone on May 6, 2012 at 2:10 pm

If they are race baiting why don’t you idiots just shut up and say you hope to get justice for Trayvon also.

Instead you go on and on, and you are race baiting just as much. I hope this marine finds justice, its a horrible situation, but you are ignoring what triggered the outrage over the Trayvon case… Zimmerman, followed him, and initiated the problem then fired on him claiming self defense when the situation he created was out of his control. If a guy was following him around, when does it become Trayvon was acting in self defense from Zimmerman?

The outrage is that after a month no arrest was made, in the case of the Marine, RIP, the arrest was made right away. It’s not even comparable, the issue black people have with the police is that they feel they get made examples out of for crimes, and then when they are wronged they receive no justice.

Which they may not have if it wasn’t brought to the front page by some people. Did it get out of control, yes, but only because our equally idiotic politicians, and commentators decided to make this a politicized issue….

Who cares, let George Zimmerman burn, why do we have to defend this guy just because he has a gun and we believe in the second ammendment. He is pill head moron, no one calls the cops 45 times in a few months is in their right mind. So what, their were burglaries… I’ve had that and I’ve been held up at gun point, do I think the people who stole my car radio need to get shot? No. Yea I was pissed but the CD player was a piece of crap, I wouldn’t of came out firin on them I saw them doing it lol.

You are just as horrible of human being doing all this as Jesse Jackson and the morons on MSNBC, both are atrocious despicable beings.

CT on May 6, 2012 at 7:19 pm

@petebone- seems most of the agenda I saw and heard was from the left, I was seeing and reading about. The New York Times, LATimes, CNN, Huffington Post are not conservative/right wing by any stretch of the imagination. The talk of the right I was hearing was defending the Stand Your Geound Law and carrying a conceal weapon. Both laws are in the books. Most of the defenders of these laws were saying that the trayvon shooting was being used as a way to garner popular appeal to repeal these through legislation. If there were any in the Right claiming this incident for further increase of conceal and carry, I did not hear or read unless some troll said on a blog.

If you are naive to think that anyone that blogs does not have a political viewpoint, I can not help you on that. Debbie has shown her hatred for Muslim terrorists and she makes no bones about it. If she present a story that shows how for example Whole Foods is bending over backwards for Ramadan but discourages any advertising for Christmas or Chanukah of course she is going to say something about. No different than what Mother Jones said about Chinese workers in Chinese plants being overworked, underpaid, and getting hurt, sick and dying, making Apple products. Mother jones magazine has their viewpoint and political slant and thy cater to other people that believe or/and agree with that slant.

Mario on May 7, 2012 at 3:31 am

This incident is terrible no matter that it happened to a White or Black Marine. I am a former Marine myself and really sympathize with the victims family. Let me also say that this story probably should have had more publicity. Even with this, this case still cannot be compared to the Martin/Zimmerman case. In reading this article, I discovered that it is a fact that all four suspects have been charged with felony murder, aggravated assault and aggravated battery. These 4 Black men may not get what some people would say they deserve, but nevertheless they will get SOMETHING. George Zimmerman admittedly killed Trayvon Martin in so-called self defense, and was not arrested and charged with 2nd degree manslaughter until 44 days after Trayvon Martin’s death. To this day he is a free man out on bail whom I think will be found innocent. He will get NOTHING. I agree that both stories should be publicized, but neither death is good and all should be punished fairly.

Don on May 7, 2012 at 3:32 pm

Facts are facts. Blacks do not have the ability to adapt, perseverse, compromise, overcome or think before they act; including “some” of the so-called educated African Americans. Darwin said it best. “Those who are most fit, survive” and that doesn’t mean running the 100m in 10.6 seconds. If it wasn’t for whites bringing blacks to this country the species would be “endangered” because of AIDS in Africa. Fact, Why do SAT scores of Whites, Asians and Hispanics continue to rise while scores of Blacks continue to fall? Blacks can not compete with other races as a whole so idiots like Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson are all Blacks have. Get rid of the excuses and your race will progress; hold on the past and your face will eventually die. None of what I’ve said is RACIST. It’s FACT.

John Doe on May 7, 2012 at 6:21 pm

Its sad when its like this the race card has to be played ……but I’m here to set the record straight first none of these black men u call them are raciest I knew all 5 people I was at dat party dat night I can’t believe that these guys done the crime I believe in innocence until proven guilty so stop towing ya stones and playing the race card cause u have no idea what the real story is

nicaboo on May 11, 2012 at 7:03 am

We are all made in God’s image. You go figure it out. See you all on the other side soon for the answer. Blessings, Bob K7VHQ

Robert Wheeler Todd on July 12, 2013 at 5:16 pm

R.I.P. Zach and thank you for your service. May god look over your son and wife in this sad time of their lives. We have you and your family in our prayers.

Robert Glass on July 13, 2013 at 12:36 pm

I think the media should check themselves. People kill people. Not because of the color of their skin. They kill them because they have hate in their hearts for everyone. We should unite as a country against all violence!!! Not pick and choose.

casam101 on July 14, 2013 at 11:00 am

The four black BOYS could get fair justice lined against a wall and a 9mm Smith&Wesson firing into them. Go ahead and make my day: Get extremely angry or mouthy and post something I can sit back and laugh at.

Vietnam Vet on July 14, 2013 at 6:42 pm

You failed to mention how Secrest and Gamble were life long friends from Middle School. They were all getting wasted and doing coke.

Doing coke and drinking booze tends to lead to fights.

Antonio on July 16, 2013 at 9:25 pm

Yes is a sad day in hell when we lose a marine when hes not even in action the fact an point is hes had a chance to live his life an will get justice trayvon was only 17 an just bout to start his life an he got no kustice cause of a profing prick that thought he was a cop neither of these hanise crime are right my condolinces to his wife an kid may there souls rest in peace

patrick on July 18, 2013 at 3:57 am

This is another hate crime that was ignored? Why did this not make headlines as travon and the St. louis issues?

Missouri on August 16, 2014 at 6:37 pm

Get lost, Eric! We don’t need racists like you here. Go back to Stormfront and other racists websites like that.

JeffE on May 3, 2012 at 8:34 pm

Why are there always bleeding heart (I assume white people) like you on every website always protecting blacks even after reading a terrible story like this? O.K. You’ve proven that you are bigger than all of us, when, if truth be told, you would be the first to cross to the other side of the street if you saw a group of blacks coming down your side on a dark night, dumb bunny!

Janet on May 3, 2012 at 9:01 pm

Janet,

I hope that you are not talking to me. If you aren’t then disregard what I’m about to write to you; if you were, then keep reading:

I condemn all bigotry and racism. I’m not trying to prove anything other than to give my comments and condemn reprehensible comments whenever I see them. You should be saving for angwer for people like Eric, not me.

JeffE on May 3, 2012 at 9:10 pm

Yes, Jeff, I am talking to you, and I don’t know how you can defend a race of people so adamantly when you have just read a story about what they did to that poor man because, dare I say it, they are racists! Your logic escapes me. I didn’t see you defending the poor man who lost his life. Why should I be angry at Eric? He only called them a name. They took a man’s life. Which is worse?

Janet on May 4, 2012 at 12:36 am

Janet, first read my 12:49 am post to you and the this.

It looks like that I misunderstood your initial and follow-up criticism of me. I thought that you are black and are criticizing me for being a white who is pretending to be opposed racism while I’m still secretly a racist becuase I’m white. I’m not alone in this as Drakken came to exactly the same conclusion and criticized me for speaking too kindly to you and accussed me of appeasing you. That shows thst you need to be more clear in the way you express your criticism. It turns out that your criticism of me is that you think that because four black men beat up a white Marine, that therefore all black people are evil. In which case, you are dead wrong. The four black people who beat up the Marine are indeed racists. That doesn’t justify casting the whole group the same way, and a lot of regulars here are black themselves. Sean R. is one, please read his comments including his mentioning who the other regulars here who are either black and/or of oher races. They condemned what the four black men did to the Marine. Please read their comments. They can explain this a lot better than I can.

JeffE on May 4, 2012 at 1:08 am

One more thing Janet:

Re:

“I didn’t see you defending the poor man who lost his life.”

Earlier in the thread I wrote:

[“Zach Gamble, RIP. May his memory be for a blessing. And may G-d bless the Gamble family with strength and comfort to the Gamble family. …”

JeffE on May 3, 2012 at 5:32 pm]

SIF–Seeing is Fundamental.

JeffE on May 4, 2012 at 1:13 am

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