May 24, 2012, - 11:37 am

Shocker: Another Muslim Honor-Killing for Being “Too Western”

By Debbie Schlussel

A number of readers sent me the story of the latest Muslim honor-killing perpetrated by a Muslim father and mother against their daughter in the London-area of England because she was becoming “too Western.” I’m not sure why anyone is shocked by this. And we’ll see more and more of these in the U.S. and Britain, as our Muslim populations continue to grow because we did nothing to keep them out at the immigration point and now they are breeding and multiplying like Burmese pythons in the Everglades.

THIS. IS. ISLAM. . . .

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We’ve already seen more and more of them and that will explode exponentially. Should probably be a sport in this summer’s London Olympic Games. It’s not anything unexpected. When you bring in a group of people who bring their backward beliefs, practices, extremism, and intolerance to your shores, and you bend over when they refuse to assimilate and demand that you accommodate, what else do you expect? Also no surprise, the sister didn’t say a word to police until she herself was caught in a crime. Human life means nothing to these people. Nothing, whether it is in the killing fields of the Muslim world or anywhere else where they invade.

A teenager told police how she saw her mother and father murder her sister by forcing a bag into her mouth and suffocating her, a court heard today.

Iftikhar Ahmed, 52, and his wife Faranza, 49, are accused of killing their daughter Shafilea Ahmed in a suspected honour killing at their family home in Warrington in 2003. Both deny the charges.


Shafilea’s younger sister Alesha allegedly witnessed the murder but did not tell police until 2010 when she was arrested in connection with an unrelated robbery at her parents’ home.

The prosecutor Andrew Edis QC told Chester Crown Court: “She (Alesha) describes what is an act of suffocation by both her parents acting together.”

He said they put their hands over her face “to close her airways so she could not breathe,” adding that “she had a bag forced into her mouth.”

Alesha then allegedly saw her father moving a bundle wrapped in bin liners, which she assumed was her sister’s body, into a car.

Mr Edis said Alesha, who is on witness protection, was awaiting sentence on the robbery charge. . . . Today, 22-year-old Alesha started giving her testimony to the court.

Speaking from behind a purple screen just metres from her parents, Ms Ahmed told the court her parents were very restrictive and there was often conflict over what Shafilea would wear, her friends and who she was speaking to on the phone. She said:

Shafilea was leading a life she thought our parents would not approve of … There would be physical abuse directed at Shafilea. It was both of them. My mum more because she was at home more.

. . .

In 2003, the Ahmed family travelled back to Pakistan. Ms Ahmed said that Shafilea had run away in the weeks before, and made clear she did not want to go.

She told the court that on the morning the family were due to leave, she overheard her mother and uncle talking about the preparation and use of a sedative called Nasha. . . .

Andrew Edis QC for the prosecution, told the jury that Iftikhar and Faranza murdered their daughter when their abuse did not appear to have any effect on her. He told the court:

The defendants, having spent the best part of 12 months trying to really crush her, realised they were never going to be able to succeed and finally killed her because her conduct dishonoured the family, bringing shame on them.

The court heard that police placed a covert listening device in the home of the Ahmeds in November 2003 when Shafilea was still believed to be missing.

In conversations with her other children, Farzana can be heard telling her son: “If the slightest thing comes out of your mouth, we will be stuck in real trouble. Remember that.”

Andrew Edis QC said that Shafilea’s body had been stripped of anything that might be used to identify her.

Yup, another example of the utter “peacefulness” of the so-called “Religion of Peace.”

The thing is, most of these women who were honor-killed probably aren’t that “Western.” They probably still hate Jews and Blacks and want Israel wiped off the map. It’s just that they dated a non-Muslim guy and/or wore skinny jeans and a tank top. And most of them were probably destined to become future Muslim breeders and womb donors. So I don’t shed the faux-tears and plastic outrage of the many phony anti-jihadists.

Yes, it’s tragic, but a speck of dust compared to the infinitely much larger tragedy of how the West has willingly agreed to play host to this cancer while it’s taken over and metastasized. We are the great wimps. The great do-nothings, as we continue to be invaded.

As for this and most other Muslim honor killings on Western shores, it’s a wash. They shouldn’t have come to the West or been allowed in. And once they’re in, if they kill each other off, it doesn’t bother me, so long as they leave us out of it.

Let allah sort it out.

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49 Responses

Its funny that ex-pats from ex-British colonies like Pakistan end up bringing their barbaric customs from home to the UK. They re-create there what they sought to escape in their old homeland.

I’m not unduly bothered by it as long we’re not the victims. If they can’t live peaceably among themselves, I’m inclined to let Allah sort it out. The day they become truly “Western” is the day I’ll celebrate.

Until then, let’s be on our guard and stop importing them into the West.

NormanF on May 24, 2012 at 11:50 am

    You know about San Diego’s Honor Killing… I just wonder why IT DROPS OFF THE PRESS SO QUICKLY. NO ARRESTS NOTHING. I admit one less muzzie thrills me, however. But with an arrest, that can become

    As Goes... on May 24, 2012 at 1:48 pm

      TWO LESS MUZZIES

      As Goes... on May 24, 2012 at 1:49 pm

      Another disturbing trend is that the police in the U.S. seem to be taking a hands-off policy on these Sharia Law “honor” killings.

      In one case, the murder of Fatima Abdallah, the murderers weren’t even investigated because the police conveniently ruled the murder a “suicide,” even though forensic evidence indicated otherwise.

      And in the Alawadi case, in which the murderer tried to make it look like a “hate Muslims” crime by planting a phony note, Debbie was probably the first commentator anywhere to immediately recognize that the murder was an honor killing. The day she posted her story, I also found signs that Debbie was correct: (1) a witness described the broken glass to Alawadi’s house, and the pattern indicated that the murderer broke the window from the inside of the house, but tried to make it look like a break-in; (2) interviews with Alawadi’s daughter showed a person who did not respond as though her mother was murdered (and she seemed relieved, if anything); (3) photos of Alawadi’s husband also showed no signs whatsoever of grief, shock, or anything like that.

      Also, on the very day of Debbie article on the Alawadi murder, I correctly predicted several things:

      Because the police would eventually discover that it was an honor killing and not a “hate Muslims” crime, the Islamists, the Leftists, and the Media would stop looking into the story, proving that none of them really care about even Muslims getting killed. They only care about their pervserve political agenda.

      But the most disturbing prediction of all, was that I’ve suggested that the police would be tempted to look the other way, ignore the honor killing altogether, and let the case fall through the cracks. The El Cajon Police (near San Diego, CA) have, so far, done exactly that. They even permitted Alawadi’s husband and daughter to leave the country. Although the El Cajon Police can’t possibly call this murder–executed with tire iron blows to Alawadi’s head–a suicide, they can do nothing. And that’s what’s happening. The El Cajon Police is afraid to interfere with a Sharia Law murder, and get the Muslim community upset by getting involved in personal “family” business.

      In the end, it looks like the El Cajon Police have no cojones.

      Ralph Adamo on May 24, 2012 at 6:20 pm

“As for this and most other Muslim honor killings on Western shores, it’s a wash.”

Indeed.

Thanks for putting this in perspective.

Red Ryder on May 24, 2012 at 11:50 am

The thing is, most of these women who were honor-killed probably aren’t that “Western.” They probably still hate Jews and Blacks and want Israel wiped off the map. It’s just that they dated a non-Muslim guy and/or wore skinny jeans and a tank top. And most of them were probably destined to become future Muslim breeders and womb donors. So I don’t shed the faux-tears and plastic outrage of the many phony anti-jihadists.

Debbie

This is precisely the reason I don’t care much about the activism of Robert & Pamela.

These honor killings are useful in showing us what barbarians Muslims are, so that we are careful enough to keep them @ a distance, and avoid dealing w/ them at all, if possible. But they certainly should not be the reason for us to sympathize w/ and rally behind the Muslim victims: there are enough non-Muslims who get killed everyday by Muslims who are far more deserving of our support. If we need people to sympathize w/, there are all those Christians in Nigeria, Indonesia and Pakistan, Buddhists in South Thailand, Catholics in Mindanao, Hindus in Kashmir and Bangladesh, Sikhs in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and other groups of people persecuted by Muslims. And if it has to be within the US or the West, there are non-Muslim victims of Muslims who can be sympathized w/.

The other problem w/ supporting the victims of these honor killings is that their friends and relatives, while regreting that they’re dead, are certainly not anti-Islamic. They will very fiercely defend Islam if confronted about the Islamic reasons for those killings, as Pamela found out in her confrontation w/ one of those people supposedly on ‘her’ side. That’s another reason why the sympathy for these ‘victims of Islam’ is completely misplaced.

The other things is that by remaining Muslims, these people – had they lived – would be passively enabling Islam (e.g. giving CAIR the opportunity to include them in the demographic that they represent), and being Westernized lulls Westerners into thinking that they are a part of a benign trend, which they’re not. Since all the evidence demonstrates that Muslims don’t integrate well w/ any non-Muslims due to their inherent intolerance of others, there can be no integration of Muslims into non-Muslim societies w/o harm to non-Muslims. From that pov, the sympathy and support for honor-killing victims is counter productive.

Essentially, what Pamela & Robert are doing is something that is useful in the short term in showing them as sympathetic figures, but pretty damaging long term.

I agree w/ Debbie – let allah sort it out!

Infidel on May 24, 2012 at 12:45 pm

    I must say I agree with you – when frauds like Scamela & Robert defend the victims of “honor killings” – they are implying these people should be allowed to live in the West which is the opposite of opposing the spread of Islam! There is no evidence Muslims integrate into Western societies or accept our way of life. Honor killings demonstrate the exact opposite. As you observed, there are plenty of non-Muslim victims of Islamic imperialism, persecution and genocide on whom we should lavish our support and sympathy. Those are the stories that never get play in the mass media and you won’t see the poseurs highlight their plight. What are we – chopped liver? In other words, attention is being given to the people who least deserve it.

    Let Allah sort it out, indeed.

    NormanF on May 24, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    If Moslems are barbarians, okay; except that, in better use of language and logic, barbarian conduct proceeds from that mentality which is subject to a criminal ideology. I concur with those who say that, Islam is a criminal ideology and—but in some few aspects—no religion, at all, . . .

    PhillipGaley on May 25, 2012 at 9:25 am

Let allah sort it out indeed. The sister on the stand sounds like she was bad but that would be redundant.

Skunky on May 24, 2012 at 1:09 pm

What can one say about a sister who kept silent on her sibling’s murder for years? Islam has a code of silence far deeper than the Cosa Nostra. It is just what we know. There is a lot we will probably never know since Muslims don’t turn to infidel courts of justice to solve disputes amongst themselves.

Since they are not loyal to our societies, the bottom line is they shouldn’t be here at all.

NormanF on May 24, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    Norman, I think that Cosa Nostra picked up a lot directly from Islam.

    Richard on May 24, 2012 at 2:58 pm

I agree with Norman, the day when muslims immigrate to our borders and shores and “assimilate” and adapt to our values, cultures, lifestyles, etc. then I to will celebrate and be less wary and vigilant towards them, and this is NOT so-called “anti-muslim” rhetoric, this is plain old common sense and being vigilant. And I know at the sametime NONE of us are saying that this girl deserved to die, she didn’t deserve nothing evil like that happended to her, the problem is that this family immigrated to Britian and didn’t adapt to British lifestyle.

They could’ve easily left their backwards views, thinking, practices back in their native country of Pakistan instead of bringing it to Great Britian’s borders & shores. And this is the problem with muslim immigration these days, seems like whenever they migrate to another society, they become VERY xenophobic, by knocking out numerous kids, collecting welfare, could careless for the laws of the new society, don’t assimilate, etc.!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on May 24, 2012 at 1:16 pm

If this is what they do to their own children — can you imagine what they would do to yours given the chance?

I can’t believe how stupid and shortsighted people are thinking they’ll just “import” muslims for “blessed diversity” and actually hope something good will come out of it.

MUSLIMS DO NOT ASSIMILATE INTO THEIR HOST SOCIETY. THOSE WHO TRY GET KILLED.

Ron M on May 24, 2012 at 1:26 pm

SeanR,

If there was any Muslim society that would have adopted Western habits and a democratic framework, its Pakistan, due to the long rule by the British. Instead, its been ruled by dictators for nearly all of its history and it persecutes minorities and women. Its the Islam and that is why its history has diverged significantly from that of its democratic and tolerant neighbor, India. You don’t see Hindus seek to kill Jews or deny women rights.

There you have your test case on integration and freedom. I’m sure there are a handful of truly Westernized Muslims but they are a minority and like I said, until there is a sea change in their societies, we should not only not let them in – we should remain on our guard. And this has nothing to do with race or prejudice against individuals. Its all about the ideology – Islam.

NormanF on May 24, 2012 at 1:27 pm

It is interesting the mother told her son,

“If the slightest thing comes out of your mouth, we will be stuck in real trouble. Remember that.”

She new that they were committing murder, breaking the law, and not performing an honor killing. Otherwise she would have told her son that this was an honor killing of a religious nature.

I suspect the mother and the other sister were afraid for their life and ending up on the honor killing list.

These types are not interested in assimilation but to spread Islam by any means including murdering their own children, either with honor killings or strapping C4 to their bodies and converting them to human bombs.

America, get out of the Matrix, take the red pill and wake up. Remember the Nick Berg video. Dearbornistan is the beginning of the end of our rule of law and good culture.

Panhandle on May 24, 2012 at 1:42 pm

Let’s see, they killed a muslim who will no longer produce more muslims…..wow where do I send money for their defense fund?

Theo van Gogh on May 24, 2012 at 3:25 pm

The Nick Berg video (if available) and similar ones (if available) need to be played on HUGE screens in public places between now and November. Maybe the resultant nightmares and vomiting will bring US voters to their senses. Hopefully, they would be some people with the inner strength to carry this out.

Not Ovenready on May 24, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    Oven, I agree with you.

    However, with Mitt Romney who saw fit to take it to his “Republican” primary opponents yet won’t take it to Obama-Putin we are like a million quantum leaps away from it ever happening.

    What a pity. It’s the truth and people NEED to be scared by it!

    Skunky on May 24, 2012 at 8:40 pm

Warrington is not in the London area, but in the North of England, nearly 200 miles away from London. Do you ever try to check your facts?

C J Walters on May 24, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    Re distances…Debbie is writing in the U.S., where that distance is equal to a spit (i.e., no distance at all).
    In England, it’s probably a 3-day drive – if the cops haven’t closed the motorways for a minor collision.

    brickwood on May 26, 2012 at 11:35 am

      Thickbrick,

      Yes, distances in the UK are not comparable to those in the US, for fairly obvious reasons. Nevertheless, Warrington is in the UK, not the US, and by no stretch is it in the “London area”. No, the journey would not take three days, but probably about three hours.

      Obviously, you know nothing about the UK.

      C J Walters on May 28, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    Warrington is 166.69 miles from London.

    Eyes Wide Open on May 27, 2012 at 6:21 am

      I said “nearly 200 miles”. You said “166.69 miles”, a remarkably precise figure which you presumably picked up from some website or other (I am assuming you have never visited the UK, correct me if I am wrong here). Either way the difference is not very significant and does not affect my original point that no-one in the UK would consider Warrington as part of the London area, either geographically or culturally.

      C J Walters on May 29, 2012 at 3:58 pm

The last part of your post is your usual hate-filled racist garbage, comparable to your comments on the Norwegian massacre. The appalling details of this young girl’s murder are for you nothing more than an excuse to push your racist agenda. Please don’t try saying Muslims are not a race. Everyone can see what you mean.

C J Walters on May 24, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    CJ please tell us why even though you think this is a hater site and DS is full of hogwash WHY you still come here and read stuff you don’t believe in? Be honest if you can.

    But I don’t think you can be honest. YOU hate it here but can’t stay away and the message appalls you so much you even comment. WHY????

    A HEALTHY person stays away from sites they disagree with. You will NEVER see me chillin’ at a Rachel Maddow site. I detest her and it’s better for me to not waste my time on a person whom I disagree with and who I think is mentally ill. Even if I listened to U2 while staring at a cement wall the time would be better spent.

    What is your excuse? Get a life!

    Skunky on May 24, 2012 at 10:25 pm

      Skunk,

      What is the point of having a comments section if only supporters of DS such as yourself are considered acceptable? Personally I find some of the comments here horrifying and hope they are not representative of US opinion as a whole. I notice you do not comment on the main points I made, other than with a tirade of personal abuse.

      Drakken,

      You know nothing about me and have no right to make these personal comments. Like Skunk, you have no comments to make that are not personally abusive and, in your case, implicitly racist as well. Have you ever been to Europe? Do you know anything about it?

      C J Walters on May 25, 2012 at 4:10 pm

        Listen up CJ Walters, the reason why you think our comments are horrifying in you’re warped and perverted mindset is because you are living in your own personal bubble and NOT seeing reality for what it really is! Bro, what is you’re opinion on this specific story, do you condemn these people for honor-killing their child or are you going to continue to make excuses and shill for islam like the typical useful idiot dhimmi you really are?

        And enough with the same old boring and tiring statement of “racists”, let me ask you this again retard, what race is islam and what race are muslims supposed to be you buffoon? Answer that question HONESTLY and don’t give me the BS liberal clap-trap that you’ve been spewing out on this blog. And Skunky is right about your ass, if you don’t like it here that much, then WTF are you commenting here? Lookit, I loathe many far-left websites such as Think Progress, Media Matters, SPLC, Huffington Post, Democrat Underground, Daily Kos, etc. and guess what stupid, I don’t comment there and waste my time with dumbass left wingers like you’re ilk. A sane person doesn’t troll and comment on websites and blogs that he or she doesn’t like, why can’t you do that CJ and quit wasting our time with you’re naivette, stupidity, demagoguery, idiocy, etc. Let us who see’s reality and lives in the real world comment!

        “A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

        Sean R. on May 25, 2012 at 5:47 pm

          Where have I made excuses for honour-killings? People like you who think Europe is coming under Muslim control are the ones living in your own personal bubble and NOT seeing reality for what it really is.

          C J Walters on May 25, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    C J W,
    muslim is not a race…
    Chistian is not a race…
    Hindu is not a race…
    Buddhist is not a race…
    Judaism is not a race…
    …get the drift?

    Religion is not a race and neither is the cult of islam.
    ahhh…
    …but of course, you must be referring to the ‘superior arab’ founders of islam, not all the other dhimmis, infidels etc. that are subordinate, I mean subscribe to the Cul.., er, “religion”.
    So please, honestly (if you can) tell us what YOU mean.

    theShadow on May 25, 2012 at 1:58 am

    Warrington is not in the London area, but in the North of England, nearly 200 miles away from London. Do you ever try to check your facts?

    C J Walters on May 24, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    Dear Mr. Walters:

    Good point.

    However, however much you may disagree with Debbie, she is not a racist. The essence of racism is a belief in INNATE differences. You find me one place where Debbie says “They’re born that way.”

    Miranda Rose Smith on May 25, 2012 at 2:35 am

    Moslems are not a race, nor is Islam. Moslem or barbarian conduct proceeds from that mentality which is subject to a criminal ideology. I concur with those who say that, Islam is a criminal ideology and—but in some few aspects—no religion, at all, . . .

    PhillipGaley on May 25, 2012 at 9:30 am

Shafilea’s younger sister Alesha allegedly witnessed the murder but did not tell police until 2010 when she was arrested in connection with an unrelated robbery at her parents’ home.

Does that mean she was arrested at her parent’s home or she robbed her parent’s home? Who edits this newspaper?

Miranda Rose Smith on May 25, 2012 at 1:56 am

Let allah sort it out.

Dear Debbie: I don’t agree. The Arabs can’t help it if their entire culture is hate and lies and propaganda. They can’t help hating Jews and Israel. I don’t like the idea of a now-so-called “Palestinian,”(read ARAB,)terrorist, even one who would happily kill me, having to live in Hamasland or Fatahland.

For the European suckers for Arab propaganda who wail about how Israel oppresses the “Palestinians” and expelled them from their ancestral homeland, I have, to my shame, no pity. They’re supposed to be civilized. They have access to facts. They pretend to be moved by Anne Frank, may the al-mighty avenge her blood. But Anne Frank was a Jew who wanted to stay alive and their attitude towards Israel, when they call for boycotts against and divestiture towards Israel, shows that they have absolutely no sympathy for Jews who want to stay alive. Anybody who calls Israel an apartheid country thinks that Anne Frank and her family were running an apartheid attic.

By the way, did it ever occur to any of these people that if Israel is illegally occypying “Palestinian” land, then Jordan is Palestine and should take in the now-so-called “Palestinians?”

Intellectually, I realize that an Islamized Europe would be a disaster for Israel, the United States and the world, and that millions of innocent people would suffer hideously. But, though I’ve prayed to G-d to cleanse the thoughts of my heart, I can’t help feeling schadenfreude when I think that, if these people ever get their wish and Israel is, G-d forbid, destroyed, the Islamofascists will be free to concentrate on Europe,where a lot of these people live. I’ve been saying for years that the European Union Army couldn’t fight off a Brownie troop armed with plastic baseball bats. The Arabs will be free to rampage through Europe, doing what Arabs do, any chance they get, any country they take over, to a lot of these liberal suckers for Arab propaganda.

Miranda Rose Smith on May 25, 2012 at 2:23 am

CJ Walters
You sound like one of those self hating self loathing white liberal/progressive/marxist who cannot bend over backward fast and far enough to appease the very savages that hate you. You and your ilk will be the ones to suffer first because the savage muzzys aren’t going to spare you because you were nice to them, you are nothing more than a future Darwin award winner and I say good riddance. Your children will curse you for your cowerdice.

Drakken on May 25, 2012 at 1:35 pm

Miranda R Smith
Don’t write off the Europeans yet, you will be amazed at how fast and how far the Euros will go to protect themselves once that ball starts rolling,sure there will be casualties and cities will burn but throw in the nationalist card and the non native muzzy colonizers will know what fear is. Pay particular attention to Germany and Austria and what is happening there. There will be war and it will be sooner than anyone thinks and the reason I think and know this is because no one in the last 40 years has done anything to stop it and the muzzys feel emboldened by by our lack of action and will keep pushing us until we push back. The people of Europe have their backs against the wall and are sick and tired of being victims of muslims and having the muzzys shove their abomination of a false religion down their throats. Nationalism at the end of the day will wipe out the the muzzy scourge that currently aflicts Europe.

Drakken on May 25, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    Don’t write off the Europeans yet, you will be amazed at how fast and how far the Euros will go to protect themselves once that ball starts rolling,sure there will be casualties and cities will burn but throw in the nationalist card and the non native muzzy colonizers will know what fear is.

    I hope you’re rght.

    Miranda Rose Smith on May 28, 2012 at 2:54 am

Hey CJ, where in ANY where of my messages have I said that Europe is falling under Islamic rule? You’re mixing me up with Drakken, and you know what CJ, Drakken is RIGHT he has a point bro, there government is bending their asses backwards to them who are NOT assimilating to European lifestyles, culture, etc., that is “xenophobia” dumbass, xenophobia is when immigrants who migrate to a new society and does not adapt, assimilate to that new socieities lifestyles, etc. and imposing their countries way of life unto the folks of the new and current society, that’s xenophobia CJ, get that through you’re thick empty-head man.

So it is you who’s living in you’re bubbly buddy, NOT us, where seeing reality, you on the other hand are living in you’re own isolated world and doing the “Three Monkey’s” of “see no evil, speak no evil & hear no evil”. And yes, what is your opinion and views of this sad story that muslim parents honor-killed their daughter because she was considered too western!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on May 25, 2012 at 8:42 pm

I gave my views in my first comment. “The appalling details of this young girl’s murder are for you nothing more than an excuse to push your racist agenda.” Unlike you, I am not seeking to exploit it for propaganda purposes.

C J Walters on May 26, 2012 at 6:30 am

    CJ, dear, not everyone here has the same view. For example, to me, Muslim life has no value, except as entertainment when it ends.

    That said, I disagree with Debbie et al. Regarding honor killings. We must consider the goal: a world without Islam. We want to cause reversion from Islam to real religions. Reversion is hindered when Muslim men can enforce adherence to Islamic custom. While a Muslim life has no value, after reversion, the same person’s life does have value.

    Thanks for sharing your concerns.

    skzion on May 27, 2012 at 10:42 am

      skzion (also Sean R,Drakken, Skunk etc.)

      For what it’s worth, I have no particular admiration for Islam, nor any other religion, (e g Christianity or Judaism). I am a European and an atheist. However, I cannot see how comments like skzion’s above: “the goal: a world without Islam” can be interpreted as anything but a call for a new holocaust, albeit on a much larger scale than the previous one. You must know quite well that Muslims are not going to be converted en masse to another religion.

      C J Walters on May 28, 2012 at 3:59 pm

Dumbass, since when is reporting the truth, giving out the facts considered propaganda? And since you had the nerve to call DS a “racist” what race and ethnicity is islam you moron? My lord CJ you’re like a damn child, how old are you BTW? Am I sending message’s to a minor?

And do you know what the term “propaganda” mean? Apparently you don’t know and since you’re not that intelligent CJ let educate you on the word propaganda, propaganda-“doctrines disseminated by an organization/group.”. That’s what the word propaganda mean, and last I checked and learned CJ, Debbie does NOT work for organization, group, etc., she’s NOT a front-woman for NOBODY silly. And did you read the whole article, NOWHERE did Debbie said that this girl should’ve died, she NEVER said anything like that, and NONE of us never said that this girl should’ve died, what her parents did to her was pure and complete evil!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on May 26, 2012 at 1:26 pm

“You’re mixing me up with Drakken, and you know what CJ, Drakken is RIGHT he has a point bro, there government is bending their asses backwards to them who are NOT assimilating to European lifestyles, culture, etc., that is “xenophobia” dumbass, xenophobia is when immigrants who migrate to a new society and does not adapt, assimilate to that new socieities lifestyles, etc. and imposing their countries way of life unto the folks of the new and current society, that’s xenophobia CJ, get that through you’re thick empty-head man.”

In other words neither of you has a clue about Europe, have probably never been there, or anywhere outside your own small patch of the USA. Immigrants who arrived in the USA in the 19th century (and earlier and later) were not noted for their willingness to assimilate to the lifestyles of the existing population, which is why they killed most of them off.

C J Walters on May 26, 2012 at 3:49 pm

Well it looks like CJ Walters is like a petulant child and doesn’t want to see reality, oh well, as a future Darwin Award winner,useful idiots of the left do have its plus side, useful idiot leftist/progressive/marxist like this I do hope don’t breed. To address your little petulant rant about Europe, I live there and here in the US Sparky, I have worked in the middle and far east for many years now, and since my kith and kin are from Germany and Austria and I am a 1st generation American, I do know what is happening over there for a fact unlike you, who believes I feel therefore I am as your policy positions. As for calling me a racist? That word has zero meaning since you progressive marxist have used and abused that word so it has zero meaning other than shut up any type of debate and observations, so you can take the race card and shove it where the bloody sun don’t shine boy. Racist no, culturalist yes. My Western Culture and western lifestyle are worth preserving since we gave the rest of the world the 21st century and all it has to offer, with that said, your bloody welcome you bloody ingrate.

Drakken on May 26, 2012 at 5:07 pm

VERY TRAGIC (an understatement). Why is it the CONSERVATIVE women that take note of cases like this, over and over again, as opposed to Liberal Women’s groups that are supposedly so Pro-Women.

Colleen Barry on May 28, 2012 at 2:46 am

C J Walters

Useful idiot leftists who cannot differenciate between western religions ie Christians and Jews versus islam and claim all are the same are completely bloody lost, trying to explain the difference is completely lost upon you. You are obviously raised upon the false notion of all cultures are equal when is is so obvious that a window licker like you can see it but want to be one who appeases our enemy in the vain hope they will spare you, well I am here to tell you that they won’t and pussys like you who think they can live in harmony with savages are rudely shown otherwise at their and their kins wellfare.
There is a sign above my office in the middle east that simply states, fuck them and love ours, everyone goes home. I would highly suggest you get used to the idea, but the again, you won’t fight for anything and will simply perish so your betters may live.

PS

Skunky, as much as I do enjoy what you have to say, I really wish you wouldn’t used obummer and Putin in the same sentence for Putin would run circles around obummer. Putin is a Patriot for Russia, obummer? God only knows and I am not so sure as what that socialist stands for other than it is not good for the rest of us.

Drakken on May 28, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    I did not say I regarded all religions as equal, just that I do not subscribe to any of them. Living in the UK, I do not, unlike you, see murderous Islamic hordes appearing on every street corner.

    I am sure your “sign above your office in the middle east” goes down very well with all the people (if they exist) who you do business with there. “Middle East” is a rather vague term, could you be more specific about where it is?

    C J Walters on May 29, 2012 at 4:13 pm

CJ
I would love to take you to some fun places in Berlin, Cologne, Amsterdam, Rotterdam,Barcelona and London for that matter it would open your little progressive mind especially after midnight. I would suggest that you be armed though because I highly doubt you would be able to defend yourself and the Polezei or Polite won’t be coming to your aid in time of need.

As to where I work in the ME? I made it vague for a reason, it is called OPSEC, so take the hint.

Drakken on May 30, 2012 at 7:24 pm

hey those people need to go to jail cause u cant kill someone just 4 beeing to merican

savvannaahh on November 7, 2012 at 5:14 pm

Its so strange, a muslim person commits to a crime, and islam goes on trail. Honor killing got nothing to do with Islam, its culture thing that sick ppl do, unless the person is sick in the brain who would kill their own blood? how can someone kill their own child, sis? this is sickness and it got nothing to do with Islam, how many ppl a day kill worse than that in north america and europe? how come their religion never goes to trail? why ppl make it so big deal when a muslim commits a crime? it won’t matter what religion you believe, a criminal is a criminal period! I am a muslim and i live in north america, i don’t hate nobody just coz of their religion, i have a daughter and my daughter is just normal american teen who is going to univercity next year in different state, and she drives, she goes partying with her friends, she got all her freedom and she will choose how she wants to live, all i had to do is to teach her right from wrong, i hope ppl will stop insulting any religion just because someone did something wrong. peace and love

Nora on April 26, 2013 at 9:04 am

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