June 27, 2012, - 6:25 pm

MORONS: Most in US Believe in Outer Space Aliens ( & That Obama Will Fight Them)

By Debbie Schlussel

Well, now I get why so many Americans believe the BS that 9/11 was an inside job and not committed by Islamic terrorists and why so many voted for Barack Obama. They are morons, by and large. Thus, the popularity of the Kardashians, etc. Most Americans believe that there are extraterrestrial aliens and real-life “Men in Black” agents who fight them. I suppose it didn’t occur to them that if either of these groups existed, we’d have known about it by now. I love science fiction, but that’s the point: it’s fiction. I believe that some planets may support the existence of insects and plant life, but that’s it. There aren’t versions of ET or the aliens from “Alien,” “Star Wars,” etc. Sadly, far too many Americans have bought into this idiocy. While only a third believe that they exist for sure, more than 84% either believe it or aren’t sure (which means they believe it, too). And more than half of Americans actually believe we have a squad of secret agents fighting off aliens like in the movies. Oy.

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More than a third of Americans say UFOs are not a fantasy. That’s the word from a new National Geographic Channel study finding that 80 million Americans are certain UFOs exist and that one in 10 believe they’ve spotted one. . . .

Seventeen percent of Americans don’t believe UFOs exist, 36% think they do, and 48% aren’t sure. . . .

About 79% of those surveyed think the government has kept information about UFOs a secret from the public, and 55% believe there are real-life Men in Black-style agents who threaten people who spot UFOs.


So what if they stopped by? The survey shows:

•22% would try to befriend the alien, 15% would run away, 13% would lock their doors, and only 2% would try to inflict bodily harm.

•If angry aliens did attack Earth, 21% would call the Hulk in to deal with it, 12% would call Batman, and 8% would call Spider-Man.

•Nearly 65% think Barack Obama would be better suited than Mitt Romney to handle an alien invasion.

Wow, good to see Obama’s cornered the market on the all-important idiot demographic. But we knew that. And you know that if there were, indeed, aliens, he’d act just like President Jack Nicholson in “Mars Attacks.” And get the same response. That’s the same way he acts with the Muslims who hate us.


“Mars Attacks” President Jack Nicholson Gets Killed by Aliens After Kissing Their Asses

Yes, I know, the government’s secrecy regarding Area 51 and much-redacted documents regarding outer space lends to the suspicions and crackpottery of the kooks. But, come on, if we can’t maintain secrecy regarding our national security, the Bin Laden assassination, and our treatment of Islamic terrorists, we could not possibly keep the lid on outer space creatures.

Like I said, the survey results explain a lot and probably correlate with what they explain. For example, I’d bet those who believe in aliens and a “Men in Black” squad are squarely in the 9/11 conspiracy theory crowd and Obama voter pool. Would have been more interesting had National Geographic dared to survey that and release the results. That’s the poll I would do.

One thing about the survey isn’t clear to me. Believing that there are UFOs doesn’t necessarily mean you believe in aliens from outer space. After all, the acronym stands for “Unidentified Flying Object.” And we all know that there have been sightings of things that have never been identified but could just be something unremarkable like a plane or a meteor or something.

In any event, the survey (and I don’t know how large the sample was for it) shows that America is chock full of conspiracy theorists without a lot of intelligence or evidence to back it up. But we knew that, too.

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A true nation of morons. This is what happens when we don’t teach science in school.

Is there life on other planets in our vast universe? Mathematically most likely.

Will we ever see life on another planet?

Physically and mathematically impossible. The closest solar syste to us is 12.3 lightyears away, and nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. Now, assuming, and this ia a tremendous assumption given that the odds of there being intelligent life on a planet is extremely small, that there is life on this planet, that life would have to travel 187,000 miles a second, 30.5 million seconds a year, for 12.3 years to reach us. And that does not include bathroom breaks.

Jonathan E. Grant on June 27, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    LITTLE AI

    U SOUND LIKE A GODDAMN MMUSSIE LOVER

    SHUT YOUR FACE

    john on June 27, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    Jon,

    Nothing I have seen has yet invalidated the Anthropomorphic Principle regarding human uniqueness.

    That’s why the existence of intelligent alien life must for the foreseeable future be regarded strictly as science fiction.

    NormanF on June 27, 2012 at 8:54 pm

      The basis of biology is the intersection between chemistry and mathematics.

      Operating on the basis that there are billions of galaxies , each one having hundreds of thousands or millions of suns, with many suns have from 1 to multiple planets, the odds of having a sensient being on another planet is possible.

      Why? Basic chemistry is dictated by the nature of the formation of the sun, beginning with hydrogen, which,through a variety of nuclear fusions, leads to heavier elements, including carbon. The electrons of the basic elements of life are mathematically based, leading to the formation of basic amino acids in something called a primordial soup. We have found amino acids on asteroid particles. From the primordial soup, primitive life forms can form, and lead to other higher life forms.

      Having said all that, the planet upon the life form is to exist must be in a pretty exact size and position in relation to a correctly sized sun for life to occur. There must be oxygen or sulfur, the gravity of the planet must allow for an atmosphere that does not dissipate into space, the temperature must be neither too hot nor too cold for life, there must be fresh water and salt water (hence, a too hot planet will cause the water to evaporate), there must be a certain amount of light for photosynthesis for plants of some sort to grow for food for any life forms, there must be solid earth (a gaseous planet cannot suppport intelligent life), etc.
      These conditions are hard to find, but do exist in some planets in some galaxies.

      Hence, higher life forms may exist on other extremely distant worlds, but we will NEVER, EVER,be in contact with such life forms, because nothing can travel unchanged traveling faster than the speed of light, and such a planet that can support us is too far for any creature to reach us. If such a creature could reach us, and had such intelligence, we would be wiped out by them, as they would see us as a lowly species, and maybe a food source.

      People who “see” aliens, or Elvis, or Jesus in a piece of toast are just crying out for attention. (No offense to Christians, but if Jesus were to come back, he would not come back as an image in a burnt piece of bread. People who claim that are being sacreligious and trivializing Jesus).

      Jonathan E. Grant on June 28, 2012 at 11:41 am

        Very nice comment, actually – but I disagree that life must be some sort of reflection of what we see here, in what I perceive as the narrow slot you’ve assigned life.
        If I’m off-base, please say so…

        On our OWN planet, we have salt-water only creatures, fresh-water only creatures, and those that migrate back and forth – plus those that can only survive in “brackish”, a semi-salt-water mixture.
        So needing salt AND fresh water seems unlikely. And given that complexity alone, the rest of what you said seems sort of narrow-minded.
        We have found bacteria in 300+ degree water, in volcanic vents in the deepest, darkest areas of the ocean we can yet explore. They use the HEAT to fuel biochemical reactins, similar to photosynthesis. These single-cell organisms survive the heat and the pressure…
        Would it be impossible for bacteria to survive in frozen conditions, too? Antarctic ice suggests they survive there, as well.
        Some do photosynthesis; some are hunters.

        Given the myriad differences – and the subsequent potential of evolutionary chance – could we not have organisms – intelligent or not – which could survive a far lower atmospheric pressure, or far greater? Perhaps something that could live in an acidic bath, by secreting a basic-pH mucous?

        Etc. Sentient life could be very different, but I’d expect certain paralels, myself: bilater symmetry, if in anything resembling our world; maybe even more, say like a cephalopod, like an octopus (which still exhibits bilateral symmetry, but is less obvious.)
        We’re not even the only intelligent life on Earth, either – Dolphins, Whales, Pigs, and some of the great Apes are still fairly intelligent. (And dolphins and whales are more intelligent than the apes; and pigs are smarter than dogs, which makes them also smarter than most humans. ;-) )

        Jean on December 18, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    Fupid stools!

    As goes... on June 27, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    Excellent post Jonathan E. Grant.

    Confederate South on June 28, 2012 at 12:30 am

I have to disagree. After all, I saw a photo in a respected weekly publication in the 90s showing President Clinton shaking hands with an alien visitor from outer space.

(I had to clarify ‘outer space’ because our political [mis]leaders are shaking hands with other illegal aliens all the time).

Little Al on June 27, 2012 at 6:42 pm

But more seriously, we should keep results like this in mind when we mindlessly promote ‘democracy’ around the world. It is rare in the Western intellectual tradition to promote the kind of free-wheeling democracy that liberals and all too many conservatives support nowadays.

Going back to Plato, great thinkers have expressed reservations about democracy, and even going back to ancient Greece, democracy was limited to those citizens considered capable of exercising it wisely. Current conceptions of democracy are coincident with the rise of Marxism and socialistic theories that are just about as mindless as the belief in hostile space aliens.

Little Al on June 27, 2012 at 6:55 pm

but debbie! jesus came to me in my sleep

or sos i thoughts it was jesus but it was really an alien

he come to me all the time about how mussies is taken over

john on June 27, 2012 at 7:22 pm

Miss Schlussel, Et Alia:

Like yourself, I too, agree that there ARE “U.F.O.”s, i.e., Unidentified Flying Objects, which might be almost any unexplained phenomenon, and not necessarily a spacecraft from another planet.

Also, like yourself, I too, believe that there are MANY worlds just like our own.

My chosen faith, The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints even teaches that some of those worlds are populated by people just like ourselves, for we all have the same Creator.

Due to that religious belief, I’ve had it explained to me that even though we Earthlings can only speculate about those distant planets, the people on those distant planets know all about us and our world.

That’s because Jesus Christ is their lord, just as He is ours, and for them to accept the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ, they have to first know about His life here on Earth – - – , i.e., they have to know all about Earth – - – and us mortals.

Like many other folks, I volunteer my Toshiba Satellite personal notebook computer to assist universities in processing raw data as part of the Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence (i.e., “S.E.T.I.”) project.

Remember the famous “WOW!” signal?

That was an intelligent radio broadcast detected in 1977 by the “Big Ear” observatory at Ohio State University.

The signal lasted for just over one full minute, and appeared to originate from the area of Sagittarius.

The electrical power required to broadcast that intelligent radio signal was thirty times stronger than anything currently existing on Earth.

However, despite extensive scanning, that singular anomaly has NOT been repeated, and thus far, no other intelligent radio signal has yet been detected.

Here’s something else to consider – - – ,

All of us know that NASA is sending exploratory probes deep into Space, never to be returned or recovered.

So, what if people on other worlds are sending (or have already sent) exploratory probes towards Earth?

Now, that being said, we must remember that in addition to other planets, stars, galaxies, et cetera, there are also multiple parallel dimensions.

Didn’t Albert Einstein or somebody theorize about that?

What about Stephen Hawking?

I’m not real educated, but it seems to me that one or both of them taught about “string theory”, plus the Universe and Time having parallel curving arcs, which intersect and create wormholes through which creatures could pass from one world to another.

After all, what do you think Heaven is, but simply another parallel dimension that we mortals can’t presently see with our mortal eyes?

Mormons believe that all of us once lived in another parallel dimension, the Pre-existence, prior to being born into this life, and we believe that at death, we’ll pass into another parallel dimension, the Spirit World, beyond which are even more dimensions, each and every one of them being parallel dimensions of only this planet.

Mormons also believe that the day will soon come (if it isn’t already here) when there will be regular communication and/or visits from beings in these parallel dimensions.

No, it won’t be spooky, weird Hollywood stuff, with “Men in Black” doing battle.

Remember, these beings represent the Lord, and are here on a divine angelic mission.

Come to think of it, when we offer up a prayer, aren’t we, in effect, sending forth a communication from our mortal world to the unseen parallel dimension and/or distant world wherein resides the Father of us all?

As for the comment that travel between distant planets is physically and scientifically impossible – - – ,

Imagine, if you will, all the everyday, run-of-the-mill normal technology we currently take for granted, and ask yourselves if any of our ancestors could have even DREAMED of such things?

Indeed, when I was a boy, Space travel and going to the Moon was pure science fiction, the stuff of a Sunday evening Walt Disney television show.

And now – - – ?

On our computer screens, we can watch, LIVE, as NASA broadcasts video of real spacemen actually floating around and building stuff in Outer Space!

When I was a soldier in the United States Army stationed in Germany, I listened on the microwave radio at Spangdahlem Air Force Base as Neil Armstrong stepped foot on the Moon.

Who would have ever thunk it?

So, really, what IS still truly beyond the realm of possibility?

There are SO many things we still do not know.

But, we’re learning, huh?

Thank you.

John Robert Mallernee
Armed Forces Retirement Home
Gulfport, Mississippi 39507

John Robert Mallernee on June 27, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    John:

    It is a mathematical probability that there is life on some of other planets in some solar systems in some of the other billions of galaxies that exist. However, no sensient creatures can travel the many light years it would take to reach earth and survive. Indeed, our sun will become a dwarf sun before that is likely to happen.

    Besides any creature smart enough to surmount these problems would see as intellectual fleas. We would be the inferior species and we would most likely be wiped out faster than the Spanish wiped out the Indians in the Caribbean islands.

    Jonathan E. Grant on June 27, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    Lots of food for thought and yes, when we verbalize anything, those sound waves go out into infinite space. A Catholic friend once mentioned that it is theoretically possible to capture the very words of Jesus that he originally spoke. That would be true of Moses too but we’d have to go a lot further out.

    Italkit on June 29, 2012 at 11:14 am

This young generation is exactly right! Obama will be as succesful fighting illegal aliens from out of space as Abe Lincoln was at tracking down vampires.

I thought Muslims were stupid people believing the crap that Islam is. Some here are not much smarter.

bob on June 27, 2012 at 7:54 pm

It’s taken a while but I now think these weirdos who claim to have been abducted by aliens are sad narcissists yearning for attention. I used to just think they were kooks and mentally ill. I was correct but now I understand their sickness more acutely.

I can’t stand ‘em. What freaks! I do like to listen to “AM Coast To Coast” but just ‘cuz it can be fun and creepy and the fear always wears off by the morning light.

I never like the UFO shows. Puts me right to sleep. Yuck! Give me the hauntings and ghosts and killer stories. They have mentally ill people on the show and even more listen!

My summation of human beings these days is not a very good one. If there are aliens (which I don’t believe!) they better watch out for us or they could be WORSE than we are (shudder!)!

Skunky on June 27, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    Skunky, how did you get your avatar?

    skzion on June 28, 2012 at 11:07 am

      Skzion, I just google-imaged Lily Munster…she has a skunk streak like mine (or I have one like hers…).

      I am artsy so I picked the one that was most vibrant!

      Skunky on June 28, 2012 at 5:21 pm

You believe in a talking plant that gave a guy rules, yet UFOs that thousands have seen aren’t real? Hmmm

Truthgasm on June 27, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    Get real! One is called stupidity and one is called faith.

    If you don’t have faith, you’re lacking. If there are UFO and Aliens and I don’t believe in ‘em (and I don’t) so what? If I believe in God and Christ and there is none, so what. It enriched my life more than an human has!

    It’s win-win for me you arrogant atheists. If there is nothing I don’t care and if there is, that is an added bonus!

    Skunky on June 27, 2012 at 9:29 pm

Don’t dismiss the possibility of aliens visiting Earth. You folks haven’t really studied the UFO phenomenon. They may be extraterrestrial or inter-dimensional.

Harvey Fenwick Lung on June 27, 2012 at 8:19 pm

Years ago, when I lived in Idaho, I remember how much fun it was to be driving those lonely roads late at night, listening to the “COAST TO COAST AM” radio program, back when Art Bell was still the host.

There’s no comparison between Art Bell and George Noori, and even George Noori admits that.

By the way, I feel SOOOO cheated!!!

How come I don’t get to see UFOs and visitors from Outer Space?

Oops!

I’d better remember my BIG mistake – - – ,

My brother-in-law once asked my opinion about alien abductions, and I sort of joked about it.

Then he said it happened to him, but he would NEVER tell me about the details about it because I’d just demonstrated my lack of acceptance that such things were possible.

John Robert Mallernee on June 27, 2012 at 8:54 pm

When people stop believing in G-d, they’ll believe in anything (not sure who that’s attributed to.) And it’s very evident.

DS_ROCKS! on June 27, 2012 at 9:16 pm

Deb-

I am truly surprised that you would make a pronouncement about ‘alien life’ and ‘UFOs’.

To the best of my knowledge you have neither professional or experiential expertise on these subjects.

Bugs and Plants? …..maybe…

Mr. Spock, Han Solo (who shot first!), E.T., Robinson Crusoe on Mars? ….maybe…

NO life anywhere outside of Earth? ….maybe…

Nobody knows… the Drake Equation is less worthy than a rant on MSNBC…

Nobody knows…

The late Astrophysicist J. Allen Hynek went from being the USAF go-to skeptic, to their strongest legitimate critic…yet at the end he knew nothing more than when he started.

……so anyway, thanks for reading my rant….

Nick Fury on June 27, 2012 at 9:19 pm

This ain’t got anything to do with UFOs or ETs (at least, I don’t think it does), but about a zillion years ago, I had an “X-FILES” experience.

I was hitch-hiking across the Country, and was caught out in the open, walking along the deserted highway in rural Kentucky late at night during a severe electrical storm, immediately following a tornado.

A day or so later, it began.

While visiting my Uncle Sidney and Aunt Ellen in West Paducah, with a loud yell, I suddenly jumped from my bed, having felt a tremendous electrical shock.

The shocks kept coming, again and again, with no relief.

I could literally feel each charge physically building within my body, until it exploded with a crescendo of electrical shock.

I was just about out of my mind!

At my request, my uncle drove me to the crossroads, so I could continue hitch-hiking.

As I was travelling through Tennessee, the guy I had caught a ride with stopped at a bar.

At the bar, I smoked a cigarette (this was before I converted to the Mormon faith), and someone commented,

“Look at that fellow knock FIRE from his hand!”

And, it was true.

I would snap my fingers and blue sparks would fly out.

Whenever I shook someone’s hand, they would get a shock.

If I reached for a doorknob, blue sparks would arc from my hand to the metal knob.

During a foggy night in Mississippi, I was afraid to cross a bridge, for I felt the power of the high voltage lines which, on the bridge, were at the same level as my head.

So, I waited at a gas station until I could get a ride.

In Alabama, I stopped to visit Grammaw and Grampaw, but the misery of the continuous electrical shocks just made life impossible.

So, I left the house in the middle of the night, but as I walked along the highway, I was stopped by the police.

When I tried to explain, they thought I was crazy, but they let me go.

The next(?) day, I caught a ride with a preacher and his son.

Exhausted, I finally fell asleep.

I don’t know what happened, but when I awoke, they both were staring at me with horrified looks on their faces.

Later on, I was in Missouri, having walked along some three days with nothing to eat and no sleep.

I saw a large tree in a green field outside a farm house, where I collapsed and fell into a deep slumber.

When I eventually awoke, the worst was over.

I still got occasional mild shocks, and I was VERY susceptible to static electricity.

But, I was no longer sending blue sparks from my fingertips, or shocking people when I touched them, and I could finally relax and lead a normal life, as I wandered from place to place, penniless, exposed to the elements, and wondering where my next meal was coming from.

By the way, in retrospect (for back then, I was ignorantly naive), I’m also absolutely certain that in my travels, I was approached by homosexual serial murderers on at least two occasions, once in Alabama, and once in Kansas.

Why was I not a victim?

Only divine intervention could have deterred them from carrying out their nefarious designs.

So, do any of you folks have a logical scientific explanation for my personal “X-FILES” experience?

John Robert Mallernee on June 27, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    It’s a COOKBOOK!

    Tempus_Fugit on June 30, 2012 at 2:42 pm

I’m willing to entertain the notion that Obama is a UFO. Does that count?

Tanstaafl jw on June 27, 2012 at 10:48 pm

There’s video tells you all you need to know about the relative intelligence of an extraordinarily large cross-section of America: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8

Ralph Adamo on June 27, 2012 at 11:16 pm

Why the focus on flying saucers? They are but one of thousands of ridiculous things that millions of people believe. 20% of the population also believes that Sherlock Holmes was a real person, 30% believes that Elvis Presley is alive, and something like 75% believe that “reality” TV shows like “Wife Swap” are neither scripted or rehearsed (believe me, they are both).

Irving on June 27, 2012 at 11:35 pm

The study of DNA and mathematics should lead any reasonable person, let alone a scientist, to the conclusion that evolution is impossible.

Understanding & believing the two main Jewish history books (AKA Old & New Testaments), should lead a scholar to the conclusion that there are other worlds inhabited by spirits, but certainly not physical beings. Since said books don’t really make mention of any other extra-terrestrial (physical) beings, a believer of those books should come to the conclusion that the vastness of the universe gives testament to the vastness of Elohim.

Romans 1:20-23

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Dr Dale on June 27, 2012 at 11:39 pm

I gotta disagree with the Divine Miss D on this one.

Have you been to Wal-Mart, Deb?

C’mon. I don’t know about you, but those are not my people, and alien replicants failing to hold their shape in our gravity is the only logical explanation.

Jack on June 28, 2012 at 12:00 am

    Walmart was also the scene of a very deadly scene in West Memphis. Arkansas.
    May 20, 2010. Two Sovereign Cititzens killed West Memphis Police Officer Bill Evans and Sergeant Brandon Paudert on an Interstate outside of West Memphis.
    The suspects then fled to a Walmart parking lot where they were killed by other police departments responding to the crime.

    Confederate South on June 28, 2012 at 12:40 am

      My deepest sympathies to the families of Officers Paudert and Evans. These officers died needlessly at the hands of criminals.

      Confederate South on June 28, 2012 at 12:47 am

        My deepest sympathies to the families of Officers Paudert and Evans. These officers died needlessly at the hands of criminals.

        Confederate South on June 28, 2012 at 12:47 am

        Reply

        Mine too.

        Miranda Rose Smith on June 28, 2012 at 4:41 am

TAKE ME TO YOUR LEADER!

There is NO Santa Claus on June 28, 2012 at 12:17 am

“We are the Borg.

You will be assimilated.

Resistance is futile.”

~California state legislature

Airmet Tango on June 28, 2012 at 1:18 am

    “You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.” -islam

    Harvey Fenwick Lung on June 28, 2012 at 11:28 am

If angry aliens did attack Earth, 21% would call the Hulk in to deal with it, 12% would call Batman, and 8% would call Spider-Man.

Why not Tobor, the Eighth Man or Giganbtor:-)?

Miranda Rose Smith on June 28, 2012 at 4:22 am

    So 65% of Americans think that Obumbo would defend us against aliens? WTF! This bozo won’t even protect the US from actual illegal aliens coming into this country. Through his actions he all but told the Gov. of AZ to take a flying leap. This shows that the Obamabots aren’t playing with a full deck. I happen to think that Odummer is an actual alien himself. Someone call George Lucas and tell him that we have a Gungan posing as our president.

    Ken b on June 28, 2012 at 10:48 am

    Or, me? I’m armed to the teeth with weapons I obtained from the Gilgamesh Union of Concerned Vertebrates. It took some doing getting all the anti-matter blasters through the Stargate – stargates don’t like anti-matter condensers – but we got’er done. Hell, we’ve got dissemblers, Factual Quote Rockets, airborne hypocrisy deflectors and even a Black Caucus Self-Imploding Field Generator that is something to behold, let me tell you.

    Jack on June 28, 2012 at 11:00 am

I just want to say ever since the movie, FORREST GUMP came out and those scenes of JFK that were added by computer graphics, people actually believed Tom Hanks character really was standing with JFK! That is not even as bad as when the first JURASSIC PARK came out and people really thought there were REAL dinosaurs on film. Since then I am no longer surprised when movies show special effects and there a few number of dummies that believe what they see and hear on film. I can go on with the commie Oliver Stone film JFK and people believe that is actual historical film. Sad, very sad and depressing.

Mario on June 28, 2012 at 5:51 am

It’s not only a nation of morons, it’s a world of morons…90% of the worlds population, give or take, believe in an invisible being no one has ever seen…how is that different from people who believe in beings from other worlds no one has ever seen…
Yes, it’s a nation of Morons, but the world is no different…To quote Prot from Kpax: “it’s amazing you humans have made it this far”….

Yossi on June 28, 2012 at 6:56 am

Irrespective of the UFO / space alien issue, that Obama enjoys significant leads in certain swing states if (biased, slanted and skewed) polls are to be believed, in a sense, is proof that many Americans are indeed shallow, superficial and stupid – highly gullible and impressionable, and easily swayed by emotion (not to mention being easily bought off like a cheap hooker on a street corner). These are the types of people who watch a misogynistic uber-leftist like Bill Maher on his HBO propaganda show and “think” (if at all) that he “speaks truth to power.” (Yeah, right, “truth” – more like something out of the old Pravda or Izvestia.) Plus getting their “news” from Jon Stewart. But the belief in space aliens is but a window on this phenomenon of the three “S’s” I mentioned.

ConcernedPatriot on June 28, 2012 at 7:17 am

What percentage of “The View” watchers believe in aliens from outer space?

Little Al on June 28, 2012 at 8:18 am

    Doesn’t the show itself positively demonstrate the existence of alien life?

    Jerry on June 28, 2012 at 2:54 pm

Gosh, I thought Forrest taught Elvis how to dance and everything! Wow! So okay, that’s BS, but I still think Obama might be an alien. I think he forgets what planet he’s on sometimes, and look how fast he’s getting so grey! I read something about some aliens being “greys” or something. Just sayin’.

GC on June 28, 2012 at 9:50 am

“There is no Dana, only Zule.”

WilliamMunny on June 28, 2012 at 10:08 am

Debbie, something is wrong. One of my posted comments has been deleted.

S: No. Please e-mail me to let me know which it is. DS

skzion on June 28, 2012 at 11:00 am

The UFOs most people talk about are the fallen angels and demons described by Holy scriptures and ancient historical texts. These things have been seen by NASA astronauts, including the ones on the Apollo missions, they have been seen by police officers, airplane pilots, military and civilian, and many other people who have credibility. UFOs and “aliens” have been discussed by many people in high authority, such as US presidents, world rulers and the Vatican. The Vatican even has it’s own astronomical observatory.
One of the things that is “fake” about the UFO phenomenon is that belief that these things come from other planets or other solar systems. When the governments of the world are ready to tell the people “what they know” about UFOs and “aliens” they will be presenting them either as enemies that we have to unite against (and form that one world government they want) or that they are here to “help” us, and set up a one world government and push thier radical environmentalism, population reduction and control of the people.

RT on June 28, 2012 at 12:04 pm

We can talk our heads off about the (non-)existence of alines, gods, prophets, messiahs, the Eighth Man (thanks MRS for the childhood flashback), dinosaurs, Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons. But one thing for certain…

If aliens were to visit our planet, they’d be Communists.

Strike up the Internationale.

The Reverend Jacques on June 28, 2012 at 12:08 pm

1. Time/Space isn’t dependent on Chemistry, DNA or Biology. It is about E=mc2. It is a quantum relationship and can be “bent” so that what we think of as “light years” may not be actual years as we measure them. We live in a very limited number of dimensions. There are many more out there and just possibly some have found the nexi of them.

2. What exactly is it that Ezekiel saw in the “Four wheels?” Can anyone here give an RATIONAL explanation? Do we yet have words for something that will be invented in another 2,500 years if we’re still here?

3. Jewish extra Biblical literature is full of accounts that cannot be explained scientifically and yet they were seen by those whom we trust as Sages and Prophets.

4. The TaNaKh also talks about phenomena like in Ezekiel’s experience. e.g. the Burning “bush.” There are also commentators such as Rashi who believe that Genesis 1 speaks of a previous creation that was destroyed. From the Christian side, James Scofield posited the same scenario.
Why is G-d referred to in the Hebrew plural as “Elohim?”

Fiction, particularly Hollyweird has trivialized this idea but thinking people from time immemorial have pondered these things in regards to Creation. I don’t see any reason to assume these beings would be hostile or vengful if they do visit. What really are angels?

Italkit on June 28, 2012 at 12:56 pm

What are you gonna believe: A survey or your own eyes?

In the 1970s I lived in the south Michigan town of Hillsdale, the site of one of the most extraordinary series of UFO sightings in US history.

The 1967 sightings were reported by mass media, but their numbers were underreported. Literally thousands of people saw the craft. The county’s civil defense director saw them. Police and other emergency personnel saw them. An major-airline pilot I met at the local airport showed me an Instamatic photo he had taken during daylight of a UFO. He lived locally and flew out of Detroit.

I spoke to probably hundreds of people over the years who acknowledged seeing the craft, at night and during daylight, some at close range. A woman I worked with told me of a very close encounter her family had. Every report I remember was rendered with a promise of confidentiality, not to make waves or get noticed.

Hundreds of Hillsdale College students gazed at the UFO movements simultaneously on multiple occasions. The sightings continued for weeks.

The Air Force sent a “team” of investigators to Hillsdale to discount the sightings. Its expert was J. Allen Hynek, later to become head honcho of the country’s biggest organization of UFO believers — MUFON, I believe.

You’ve heard of the term “swamp gas” as a synonym for BS? That originated with Hynek, who attributed the sightings to the theoretical concept of methane from local swamps igniting in the air and creating a mild Northern Lights-like effect at night. The phenomenon has never been observed, by the way.

Of course the sightings, replete with steady and blinking lights in bright patterns, moving slowly and quickly across the sky, and daytime observations, are totally out of sync with the Air Force claims. Nonetheless, all they wanted was some throw-away excuse to debunk thousands of people.

I often flew around Hillsdale in private aircraft. There were no swamps. It’s doubtful they all disappeared in the 5 years after the sightings.

The investigators would have known there were no swamps, but that didn’t stop them from dumping swamp gas on the mass media, which dutifully soaked it up.

I’ve never seen a UFO but have met many, many people in my lifetime — including plenty of pilots — who have. It’s not a science fiction scenario. It’s a common human experience.

As for those who — without any evidence in fact or reason — dismiss the experiences of astronauts, military pilots, radar stations, airline pilots, scientists, Christians, Jews and your own neighbors — that’s your fail.

We all have the option of wrapping ourselves in ignorance.

Jerry on June 28, 2012 at 2:48 pm

I would way that the encounters publicly reported seem less than credible. Also, the alien abduction claims seem to resemble sexual fantasies. As for alien life, it probably exists on worlds far too distant for us to reach for centuries to come, if ever. As for intelligent life, it is probably very rare at any given time and very far away. What could be considered even semi-intelligent life on Earth began less than two million years ago with Homo erectus. Other factors such as having a large moon for the size of our planet(slowed down our rotation and stabilized Earth’s wobble)and an oversized iron core(protective magnetosphere) were the results of a collision with a large planetary body early in Earth’s history. This prevented the Earth from becoming a larger Mars or Venus. Also, it has to be admitted that SETI has been a failure. A program specifically designed to monitor the heavens for alien transmissions has come up with no verifiable signals from alien beings after many years of trying. Also, our Earthly transmissions have streaming out into space for over a century now(with far more powerful signals being put out over the past fifty years). Everything from Herbert Hoover addressing the country to Bonanza have introduced our existence to anyone within dozens of light years from us. At some point, one has to assume that there is no one to contact within a reasonable distance to the Earth, or that such beings have no wish to communicate with us. Weird programming from the History Channel aside, it would be wiser to operate on the assumption that we are alone until a serious alien effort at contact is made. Living in a world of escapism or fantasy is the surest sign of decline in any civilization.

Worry01 on June 28, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    Your post is a meandering journey in speculation and personal opinion, totally lacking empirical evidence. The fact is that the logbooks are full of not just individual sightings with multiple points of documentation, including radar recordings and sightings by military and air transport pilots as well as non-specialists, all of them reporting phenomena not attributable to any publicly known human aircraft.

    We may or may not be visited by wanderers from elsewhere in the galaxy or from other dimensions or other times. Maybe in fact the phenomena are expressions of the occult. Who knows?

    You choose to draw conclusions on the basis of personal fantasy rather than recorded information, such as that which I posted a little earlier and which is verifiable. Your reasoning is comparable to the story of the medieval monks or priests who held extensive debates on the question of how many angels could dance on the head of a pin.

    It’s a bit comical to view someone pondering why visitors from another planet or another dimension, if that’s what they be, don’t respond to our TV and radio transmissions when those signals — totally diluted beyond recognition — reach those planets or alternate locations years later.

    Jerry on June 29, 2012 at 4:30 am

      Jerry, what do you bring to the table empirically?

      “It’s a bit comical to view someone pondering why visitors from another planet or another dimension, if that’s what they be, don’t respond to our TV and radio transmissions when those signals — totally diluted beyond recognition — reach those planets or alternate locations years later.”

      Jerry, you just defeated your own argument. If what we transmit cannot be received by anyone very far from our solar system, how would these aliens know that we even exist? The Universe is a big place Jerry. Even with our limited technology, we are able to view astronomical objects that are billions of light years away. Why would a silent Earth draw the attention of anyone? If you are going to assume that your aliens lack the ability to pick up weak radio or television transmissions from Earth, they would have absolutely no reason to know that we even existed.

      As for what you call meandering, it is also known as backing up what you are saying to most people. The Earth did luck out in that it suffered a collision with a planetary sized object that did not destroy it early on. In the aftermath of that collision, the Earth absorbed that other body’s core. Also, the debris from that collision went into orbit around our planet as a ring of debris that through gravitation processes became the Moon we see today. The enlarged core meant that the Earth got an extension on the life of its magnetosphere. This semi-liquid core creates a magnetic field that shields the Earth from most harmful radiation and prevents the Solar Wind from depleting the lighter elements of our atmosphere, such as Oxygen, Water, etc. If you want to see what happens when a magnetosphere is dead on a planet that is roughly our size, you just have to take a look at Venus. It was much like the early Earth long ago, but no longer. The iighter elements of its atmosphere were stripped away, which left an arid surface with a dense mostly Carbon Dioxide atmosphere with crushing pressures. Rain on the Venus of today is Sulphuric Acid. Finally, the average temperatue on Venus, day or night, is close to 900 degrees Farenheit. Mars was even less fortunate than Venus. After its magetosphere died roughly three bilion years ago, its lesser gravity could not even retain much of even the most noxious atmosphere. The Martian atmosphere has roughly 1% of the density of the Earth’s today. Without its magnetosphere, the surface is bathed in dangerous to lethal radiation(for humans) each day. We can even today see evidence that water once flowed on the surface of Mars for sustained periods, which means that it had an atmosphere of sufficient density to prevent liquid water from sublimating into vapor as it would today. Also, if liquid water flowed on Mars for sustained periods of time, there were at least parts of Mars that would have had an Earth like warmth. Mars is now a sterile and frozen rock compared to the Earth. Be grateful that you exist Jerry. It is the most unlikely of things. As for the sentient beings who inhabit the Earth, they enjoy the unlikely occurence of being alive and the nearly incredible good fortune of having intelligence.

      Who needs Erich von Däniken’s “Chariots of the Gods”? The Egyptian Pyramids, Stonehenge, the Moal of Easter Island, and even the Nazca Lines were the product of men. They represented the beginnings of civilization in various parts of the world. Why should these builders share the credit with aliens for what they accomplished? Why would aliens capable on interstellar flight and dimensional got to the trouble of building such crude Neolithic and Bronze Age structures? Give the workers, the planners, and the leaders who drove them the credit for these ancient marvels. They were not extraterrestrials with a sick sense of hunor.

      Worry on June 29, 2012 at 12:30 pm

Is it possible that there’s life out there more advanced than earth? Could it be that they’ve determined that earth is not worth their time to conquer? maybe

Truth on June 28, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    It’s no big chore to imagine that space travelers might seek out respectable planets with truly intelligent and harmonious life forms rather than the self-destructive and malevolent human idiots who dominate this third-rate volcanic rock.

    Jerry on June 29, 2012 at 4:35 am

I actually believe that aliens may exist in a planet similar to earth in another galaxy, maybe even in the milky way. But not in the Solar System.

But if any aliens did visit earth, I’d be more willing to believe that they are benign, than I’d be willing to believe about Muslims.

Infidel on June 29, 2012 at 8:10 am

Modified by request:

I would way that the encounters publicly reported seem less than credible. Also, the alien abduction claims apparently resemble sexual fantasies more than anything else. As for alien life, it probably exists on worlds far too distant for us to reach for centuries to come, if ever. As for intelligent life, it is probably very rare at any given time and very far away. What could be considered even semi-intelligent life on Earth began less than two million years ago with Homo erectus. Other factors such as having a large moon for the size of our planet(slowed down our rotation and stabilized Earth’s wobble)and an oversized iron core(protective magnetosphere) were the results of a collision with a large planetary body early in Earth’s history. This prevented the Earth from becoming a larger Mars or Venus. Also, it has to be admitted that SETI has been a failure. A program specifically designed to monitor the heavens for alien transmissions has come up with no verifiable signals from alien beings after many years of trying. Also, our Earthly transmissions have been streaming out into space for over a century now(with far more powerful signals being put out over the past fifty years). Everything from Herbert Hoover addressing the country to Bonanza have introduced our existence to anyone within dozens of light years from us. At some point, one has to assume that there is no one to contact within a reasonable distance to the Earth, or that such beings have no wish to communicate with us. Weird programming from the History Channel aside, it would be wiser to operate on the assumption that we are alone until a serious alien effort at contact is made. Living in a world of escapism or fantasy is the surest sign of decline in any civilization.

I take the excessive interest extraterrestrial encounters as a sign of malaise and desperation. Our society is having more and more trouble functioning, and is beginning to breakdown in many areas. The solutions offered either do not really address the problems that we have or are not feasible(renewable energy). We are experiencing what 4th century A.D. Rome and the Weimar Republic faced before their demise. Their problems were not insoluble, but the will to take any affirmative action was wanting. A society in which a Barack Obama or Debbie Wasserman Schultz become prominent political figures is heading into the septic tank rapidly. A great darkness is coming, but very few perceive it. Only when the exits are sealed and the darkness unfolds will it begin to dawn on the public that something is quite wrong.

This little scene comes to mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgmfV5VLHvs

Worry on June 29, 2012 at 11:24 am

“Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools”

Dr Dale on June 29, 2012 at 10:50 pm

Well, I don’t know about that Debbie. I’m pretty educated; Mensa and all that, and I happen to believe the universe is teeming with life. I don’t buy all that crop circles, aductions, and livestock mutilation stuff. I wouldn’t be suprised if aliens haven’t even stopped by once or twice but given how advanced they’d have to be, we couldn’t be anything more than bacteria to them. However, I have a confession. worry that if aliens did come, they’d be some biker alien species and kick our collective butts! Remember the episode from Twilight Zone, “How to Serve Humans”?

Paul on July 1, 2012 at 11:40 am

According to a report in the Daily Rash, not only does Louis Farrakhan claim that he’s been abducted by UFOs twice, he says the second time that his captors were Jewish. That is one crazy dude! http://www.thedailyrash.com/louis-farrakhan-claims-his-alien-ufo-abductors-were-jewish

Laura on July 1, 2012 at 6:11 pm

“I believe that some planets may support the existence of insects and plant life, but that’s it.”

Rly? Explain why, then. Why would humans be the only intelligent specie in the cosmos or even in this arme of the galaxy? Why would Earth be the only planet where complexe life exist?

Sure there are plenty of cases where weather balloon, jet fighters or even drones flying over Washinton DC have been identified as UFOs but that doesn´t mean every case is.
UFOs aren´t a matter of believe for me, I have seen them and no, it wasn´t a weather balloon, hallucination (someone else saw it too) or a military airplane, piloted or not. Not with such speed and size.
It is wrong to automatically assume they are the product of an alien civilization from another planet beyond the solar system but yes, they certainly do exist.
You are also right on one thing, if they where launched by the US armed forces or even the Soviet or Chinese red army, if there indeed where contacts with extra-terrestrial, it would have come out.
Also, Obama is more likely to surrender, then collaborate eagerly.

Was the The 1952 Washington D.C. UFO incident caused by weather balloons?
50 years later, a few of them flew over the white house again, on the 16th of July to be precise, which was the 67th anniversary of the trinity test.

Can you tell us it isn´t that the possibility opened by the existence of UFOs scares you, that you aren´t living in denial somewhat? I mean, there wouldn´t be any MAD with who or whatever built these things, is there?

It is like knowing there is an anonymous person that knows of your existence, watches you from a distance from time to time and could blow you up at any time by pushing a red button, whever he or she feels like it.
There is nothing you can do (except perhapse move far away from civilization) against this person and chances that this person is brought to justice for doing that is nearly zero, if he or she decides to do it.
True, that person allowed you to be born in the first place and in 42 years, have never done anything hostile against you but you might still have problems feeling safe and not wish to dwell on it too much.

Jaws on July 2, 2012 at 11:51 am

I DO believe in intelligent elsewhere in the universe. Even random chance is in favor of that. (I’d see confirmation that we are the ONLY intelligent life as proof of God, but I believe God exists anyway… moot point.)

But:
IF there are aliens,
AND they contact us,
AND they have good intentions,
I believe the government would try to kill them.

and
IF there are aliens,
AND they contact us,
AND they wish to enslave us,
I believe our politicos would fall all over themselves to kiss alien ass.

The purpose is to ensure that THEY are last to get eaten… nothing more. But should aliens bring anything of value, any ideas, any technology – they would be driven off as “destructive” and evil. Destructive of government hegemony, most likely…

So far, the surest sign there IS intelligent life out there? None of it has tried to contact US… :-P

Jean on December 18, 2012 at 4:18 pm

A good weapon for use in self – defense here is employment. If I´m your employer and you tell me that aliens don´t exist , I order you to go find an employer who thinks aliens don´t exist , then I fire you.
If you think 9 – 11 was something else than an inside job , I fire you.
At the work place , you´re working for the company and you´re part of the job environment. You don´t do what your employer tells you , you´re fired. People listen to that kind of argumentation. The disgusting lie that life on other planet doesn´t exist was dreamed up by sick brains. The truth doesn´t matter to people who don´t believe in extraterrestrial life. Fear does. Hence , if I am an employer and one of the employees doesn´t believe in ET and wants to keep all the other employees in line by force feeding them with pro – government bullshit instead of allowing them to think on their own terms , I can kill this person´s career. The fear of losing one´s career will always be greater than the fear of confronting the truth.
I may not be an employer in my country today , but let´s wait and see what the future brings.
Firing you for saying ET doesn´t exist is my response to letting people know what´s going to happen if attempts are made to turn our working environment into a catatonic state.
Respect the employer , the employer respects you. Don´t , and you end up unemployed.
Control the UFO – ET 9 – 11 debate via the use of employment as a weapon. We´re so many now , we don´t care about a few people trying to tell us that there is no ET or that there is some Ashtar Command or a Great White Brotherhood. If you try suing employers who fire people who don´t believe in ET´s they´ll simply go around the law and find ways to make sure they don´t end up in jail.
Welcome to the 21st century. Bye bye anti – animism.

a.v. on February 2, 2013 at 2:03 pm

By this post I am not saying I think I am being an employer as of present , but I am saying how easy it is to use fear to get people who don´t believe in the existence of extraterrestrial life to just shut the hell up while the others talk.

a.v. on February 2, 2013 at 2:06 pm

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