May 12, 2009, - 2:45 pm

The Sad Truth About Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser–Star, Narrator, & Producer of “The Third Jihad”

By Debbie Schlussel
**** SCROLL DOWN FOR UPDATE ****
This morning, a friend invited me to lunch with M. Zuhdi Jasser, MD, the Syrian-American Muslim who wants us to believe that most Muslims are peaceful because they don’t belong to mosques. He is in Detroit to promote, show, and answer questions on “The Third Jihad,” the movie he and the Clarion Foundation funded and have since released.
The Clarion Foundation also contacted me over the weekend, urging me to promote this movie, but they refused to respond to my questions about it and Jasser. And I don’t recommend it because of the behavior, disinformation, lies, and double-speak of Dr. Jasser. For the same reasons–which I’ve mentioned on this site previously–and others, which I note below, I declined my friend’s invitation.

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You see, the message Mr. Jasser is spreading is contrary to the one he claims in the movie. The movie warns of the homegrown jihad we’ve been warning about for years, since before 9/11. But Jasser’s statements regularly contradict the movie. He’s two-faced, and a liar. And you simply can’t believe a single piece of fertilizer coming out of his mouth. He openly lied to me in an e-mail, claiming he’d never discussed a topic on Detroit radio, which he expressly did discuss on the air for a full half-hour.
Jasser has consistently appeared on Detroit radio shows and TV and radio shows around the country, saying the usual bullcrap, i.e., that Islam is a peaceful religion, that the majority of Muslims are peaceful because they don’t belong to a mosque, that CAIR and MPAC and ISNA, etc. don’t represent Islam.
Jasser also said on a Detroit radio broadcast earlier this year, that it’s unfair to blame the imam of a Minneapolis-area mosque or the mosque for recruiting a number of secular Somali boys to become terrorists for the Al-Qaeda network’s Al-Shabaab in Somalia. He claimed to know the imam of the mosque and be familiar with the mosque in excusing the two, but even the parents of the missing boys blame the mosque and the imam, and the FBI admits it’s investigating the mosque and the imam (who is on the no-fly list and has been for ages).
Sorry, but that’s baloney. Islam is not peaceful. Whether or not Muslims belong to a mosque is not the determinant of their radicalism, only an adding factor. I know some extremely secular Muslims who drink alcohol and haven’t been to a mosque in decades. But they love Hezbollah and HAMAS and hate Jews, Christians, America, and Israel. If the majority of Muslims are really peaceful and don’t support terrorist groups, why did I see ten thousand Muslims–during the workday–marching on the streets of Dearborn and Detroit in support of Hezbollah and HAMAS in both 2006 and early 2009? Why do Bin Laden, HAMAS, Hezbollah, Ahmadinejad, and Nasrallah remain the most popular figures and entities in poll after poll of Muslims? Why do a third of young American Muslims support homicide bombings?
Dr. Jasser was kicked out of his mosque in Arizona, a pretty good sign that Islam is, in fact, radical, and they don’t want his pretentious claim otherwise. I’m sorry, but CAIR, ISNA, and MPAC do represent Islam more than he does. Far more, despite his claims otherwise. It’s like when Communist fantasists and utopians used to tell me that I can’t judge Communism by its manifestation and practice in the Soviet Union or Cuba or China, because they don’t practice “real” Communism and don’t represent this silent, imaginary majority of Communists worldwide who love peace and don’t throw people in jail for a life of torture for writing a poem. Sorry, Zuhdi, but you know better. And yet, you continue to lie. I asked Jasser how many Muslim members he has in his organization, the “American Islamic Forum for Democracy,” and he didn’t respond. He’s told others it’s about 100. That’s not even negligible. It’s downright embarrassing.
Not negligible are the speaking fees and other payments and funding Dr. Jasser is getting from this speaking tour, a good chunk of it courtesy of the Clarion Foundation, which in using him as its two-faced spokesman seems not to heed its own eponymous clarion call. I dream (and will forever dream) of the day we will see a Muslim (which means an ex-Muslim) or an Arab who is actually putting forth a consistent, truthful, truly peaceful message . . . and not some uninformed double-talk, milked as a money-making enterprise. Jasser, Hanan Tudor a/k/a “Brigitte Gabriel,” Walid Shoebat, and other frauds have all made a mint after they opened up shop post-9/11 (and lying about what and who they are). Before then, they were nowhere to be seen. Apparently, the underside of the rock was quite cozy ’til then, but afterward the outside suddenly became far “greener.”
And then there’s the bold-faced lie Jasser told me, denying he’d ever even spoken of the mosque in Minnesota that recruits jihadists, when in fact he had. When I responded with the details of the interview in which he’d done that very thing at length and excused this extremist mosque and its imam–calling him on his bald-faced lie–he didn’t respond back. No surprise.
Dr. Jasser told those who attended today’s lunch with him that he’s against interfaith efforts. Yet his bio is filled with them, and he brags of them, including his participation in the “Children of Abraham,” a far-left organization run by an anti-Israel Jew by the name of Brenda Naomi Rosenberg (she authored a petition condemning Israel during the Israel-HAMAS war earlier this year). Not mentioned in his bio is Jasser’s active involvement in and repeated donations (in 2005 and 2006) to Seeds of Peace, the moral equivalency summer camp for kiddie Islamic terrorists in the making in Maine, which I told you about previously on this site. It was founded by Yasser Arafat’s favorite biographer and topics at the camp have included that the Holocaust never happened.
Below is the exchange I had with Jasser when he contacted me after I first wrote about him. Following that is my e-mail to the Clarion Foundation, after they contacted me to promote their and his movie. No response from them, either. No surprise. When the facts aren’t on your side, there are two options, lie or remain silent. Jasser does both. The Clarion Foundation did only the latter. But their disinformation campaign headlined by Jasser is not the heroic thing it’s portrayed to be.
Remember, “taqiyyah”–the Islamic concept of lying to and deceiving infidels–is something Dr. Jasser doesn’t talk about. But something he practices far more than he preaches.

From: M. Zuhdi Jasser mzjasser@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 5:13 PM
Subject: Correction requested
To: writedebbie@gmail.com
Dear Ms. Schlussel—We have never been in contact before. I will keep this brief. Please do not hesitate to contact me directly in the future if you have any concerns or wish to engage in a discussion with a Muslim who is unabashedly anti-Islamist. Sorry, but the excerpt below from your column is false. http://www.debbieschlussel.com/

One other thing: This episode demonstrates the absolute unreliability of the statements of Zuhdi Jasser, the so-called moderate Muslim who pushes upon us the BS that the majority of Muslims are peaceful (which is why thousands of them marched on the streets of Dearborn in support of Hezbollah and HAMAS for weeks in 2006 and 2009).
Jasser kept claiming that Shirwa Ahmed’s mosque and the imam of the mosque, Sheikh Abdirahman Ahmed (who is on the no-fly list), are blameless and moderate, even though many Muslims from that mosque become radicalized by him and travel to Somalia to kill countless others.
You can’t believe a thing Jasser says. And you shouldn’t believe Robert Mueller has finally come to his senses 7.5 years after 9/11. He continues to pander to, excuse, and apologize for mosques like the one that was the impetus for Shirwa Ahmed’s Somalian one-way explosion trip.

I would imagine the source you received it from must have transposed my name in their attribution meant to be of someone else. Not only have I never written or spoken publicly about Ahmed’s mosque or the Somali situation but our group (AIFD) certainly believes they are being radicalized by their leadership. I have absolutely no idea where you made this false attribution from . I have spoken in generalities to a reporter or two about my deep concerns about the radicalism of that mosque which would actually be in line with your concerns. Please refer me to the link/source from where you made this false attribution and I will get it corrected or help clarify what you may be interpreting. You mention that I “kept claiming Shirwa Ahmed..” I have never spoken of or written about this imam. Once you have verified this on your own, I would ask you to please correct your comments appropriately. All of my writings and interviews are at our website at www.aifdemocracy.org. We pride ourselves on being directly confrontational against the apologetics of Islamist groups and their imams and leadership. In fact, additionally to your other comments, I spoke at large events in Detroit expressing my dismay and disgust with the local Muslim support of Hezbullah and Hamas. That is just some of the public record I have established in this area. In fact CAIR and other Islamists in the Detroit area published this drivel after my appearance in Detroit last year: http://www.arabamericannews.com/news/index.php?mod=article&cat=Community&article=851. You can see here as well as all over the internet that the Islamists you target are certainly no fan of my work.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards, Zuhdi Jasser
President, AIFD

In fact, my comments about what Jasser said were not comments a source sent me as he wished had happened so he could worm his way out of it. I heard him say these things with my own ears. Here’s my response.

From: Debbie Schlussel writedebbie@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Correction requested
To: zuhdi@jasserim.com
Dr. Jasser:
Words and facts are stubborn things. I heard you say these very words on two different appearances on the Frank Beckmann show–one while you were in Detroit and another around Christmas or the New Year. A friend who has been justifiably disturbed by your message and by Beckmann called me both times you were on. I know what I–and others–heard. And you repeatedly say that the majority of Muslims are peaceful. They are not. Sorry. And you said that it was not the mosque or its imam. I suggest that you go back and listen to both of your interviews as your apologism and claims about Muslims are disinformation. You specifically excused the Abubakar As Saddique Islamic Center and its imam. Your memory is short. Mine is long and precise. And I was sickened to hear you make these excuses for these people, while continuing to get the blind worship of less-informed lights like Frank Gaffney and extreme ignoramuses like Beckmann (who admitted on another show that he didn’t even know who John Maynard Keynes was).
I wonder how many members of your organization are actually Muslims and not just people who like your message. I’d bet there are very few Muslims. FYI, your friend Frank Beckmann, on his show, repeatedly legitimizes open Hezbollah supporters Imad Hamad (a “former” PFLP terrorist and Hezbo/HAMAS supporter, and FBI Award revokee) and Ali Jawad (a man who openly supports Hezbollah, a well known agent for the group, and who was convicted of insurance fraud in federal court). The more you appear on that show, the more it tells me about you–not just by your apologism for some mosques and many Muslims, but by your very presence on the show.
I am well aware that many Muslims don’t like you because they are extremely Orthodox and they think you are helping the enemy, but as even Stephen Coughlin admitted when questioned after he spoke in Detroit, your message–that Muslims are mostly peaceful–is fraudulent and hurts our cause. Ditto for your apologism for the Abubakar As-Saddique Islamic Center and Imam Abdirahman Ahmed, whom you specifically excused from culpability.
Unlike your lemmings like Frank Beckmann who is an ignoramus former sportscaster, I actually can correctly pronounce Zuhdi (I know it isn’t Judy, unlike him), and I don’t buy into your fraudulent message. Islam–not a few extremists, as you claim–is the problem.
DS

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From: Clarion Fund press@clarionfund.org
Date: Sun, May 10, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Subject: “The Third Jihad” Premieres in Washington, DC – CAIR Declines the Invitation
To: writedebbie@gmail.com
Debbie Schlussel-
We just wanted to drop you a quick note to tell you about the premiere of the Clarion fund’s newest documentary film, “The Third Jihad.” The event will take place this Wednesday, May 13, 2009 at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., and will include a screening of the full version of the feature-length film as well as a media briefing with the film’s narrator, Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser, and its producers about the threat of radical Islam in America.
Though Clarion invited several American Muslim groups to participate in a roundtable discussion with Dr. Jasser – a devout Muslim and chairman of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy (AIFD) – all of them declined the invitation. Among those organizations to decline the invitation was the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a surprising turn of events considering the group’s usual insistence that a representative of their “mainstream Muslim” staff be present at such events to offer a “balanced perspective.” In fact, since the beginning of 2009, CAIR has requested such representation in at least three U.S. events focused on radical Islam.
While we hope to distribute this release to the media tomorrow, we wanted to give the blogging community the first shot at it: who better to begin the discussion about “The Third Jihad” – and continue the discussion about the threat of radical Islam in America ‚Äì than the talented men and women of the blogoshpere [DS: sic].
Sincerely,
The Clarion Fund

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From: Debbie Schlussel writedebbie@gmail.com
Date: Sun, May 10, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: “The Third Jihad” Premieres in Washington, DC – CAIR Declines the Invitation
To: Clarion Fund press@clarionfund.org
I just wanted you to know that it has come to my attention that the Clarion Fund is sending money to something called the Sam Adams Alliance, or at least that’s what Sam Adams’ CEO Eric O’Keefe claimed to me. You should know that Sam Adams Alliance’s web director and trainer, on her blog, praised and defended Muslim death threats against my life, which included Holocaust denial. Are you, in fact, giving a dime to Sam Adams Alliance? You should also know that Zuhdi Jasser in two interviews on Detroit radio said:
1) that it is not right to blame the Muslim imam of the mosque who is recruiting Somalis to become terrorists back home, when even the FBI and their families acknowledged he is the one recruiting them; and
2)that the majority of Muslims in America and elsewhere are peaceful and don’t support terrorism, which is interesting given that 10,000 Muslims marched in favor of Hezbollah and HAMAS daily in Dearborn during the Israel Hezbollah war; and when Bin Laden and HAMAS are still the most popular entities in poll after poll around the Islamic world.
Does Clarion agree with these misguided viewpoints expressed by Zuhdi Jasser?

Like I said, no response. Of course, not.
**** UPDATE, 05/14/09: The Clarion Foundation did indeed finally respond, four days after I contacted them:

From: Clarion Fund media@clarionfund.org
Date: Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: “The Third Jihad” Premieres in Washington, DC – CAIR Declines the Invitation
To: writedebbie@gmail.com
Debbie-
We did not “refuse” to answer your questions as you posted on your blog. Rather, we checked with every department within our organization to make absolutely sure that no such donations to the Sam Adams Alliance were made. After much research, we are quite sure that Clarion Fund has not donated anything to the Sam Adams Alliance. Please correct this inaccuracy.
Regarding Dr. Jasser, the Clarion Fund remains 100% committed to our goal of educating Americans on threats to national security, and Dr. Jasser is a close and important partner for us in our drive to accomplish this goal.
Best,
The Clarion Fund

My response:

From: Debbie Schlussel writedebbie@gmail.com
Date: Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: “The Third Jihad” Premieres in Washington, DC – CAIR Declines the Invitation
To: Clarion Fund media@clarionfund.org
I e-mailed you on Sunday. It’s now 6:30pm Wednesday afternoon. I operate on Internet turnaround, not 1800s printing press deadlines. I will correct that, but I think you should let Eric O’Keefe from Sam Adams Alliance know that you want him to stop claiming he’s getting money from you.
Do you agree with Zuhdi Jasser that Israel and the West Bank are “the occupied territories” as he told Pamela Geller on her radio interview? Do you agree with him that it’s not right to blame the imam of the Minneapolis mosque for brainwashing and recruiting terrorist to go blow themselves up in Somalia? Do you agree that it’s right that he would flat-out lie to me and deny that he’d ever discussed that mosque when he had on the air for about a half hour? Also, do you agree with Zuhdi Jasser that most Muslims are peaceful and don’t support Hezbollah or HAMAS? Clearly you don’t follow the polls or watch the streets when Muslims hold protests, if you believe that.
Islam is a national security threat, and every time you promote Jasser’s view that he and his 100 Muslims out of a billion Muslims are representative of the real Islam, which is “peaceful,” you are lying about the true national security threats. Wake UP.

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From: Clarion Fund media@clarionfund.org
Date: Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:54 AM
Subject: RE: “The Third Jihad” Premieres in Washington, DC – CAIR Declines the Invitation
To: writedebbie@gmail.com
Debbie-
Thank you . . . We will be in touch with Mr. O’Keefe to set the record straight.
Best,
The Clarion Fund

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From: Debbie Schlussel writedebbie@gmail.com
Date: Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: “The Third Jihad” Premieres in Washington, DC – CAIR Declines the Invitation
To: Clarion Fund media@clarionfund.org
You should be aware that his director of web development and blog trainer, Emily Zanotti, defended Muslim anti-Semitic Holocaust denial death, rape, and torture threats on my life. I certainly hope you will never give $ to such an organization, and I was incensed when he told me you were. You still haven’t answered my questions on Zuhdi Jasser, though.

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32 Responses

Nice job Debbie. I know from you the truth about Steven Emerson and Walid Shoebat (very disappointing to me, particularly in the light of the high value of Emerson’s documentary “Jihad in America”) but what is the problem with Brigitte Gabriel?
To know from a credible source like you that she is a fraud would devastating blow because she appears to be doing so much in raising awareness across the U.S. with her organization “Act for America.”
I don’t agree with many of your opinions, but I value your blog because you do some of the most cutting edge research that I have ever seen. However, an underrated blog is not enough to organize Americans to resist the jihad.
If Brigitte is a fraud, is there any legitimate organization we can join to resist the jihad?
[PD: UM, THIS IS NOT AN "UNDERRATED BLOG" AND IT GETS FAR MORE READERS AND TRAFFIC THAN HANAN TUDOR (GABRIEL'S REAL NAME) DOES. BUT THANKS FOR THE INSULT. SHE HASN'T ORGANIZED AMERICANS TO RESIST JIHAD. SHE'S ORGANIZED DUMMIES AND LAPDOGS TO PAD HER BANK ACCOUNT. SHE OPENLY PRAISED AND FUNDRAISED FOR AN ORGANIZATION THAT DEFENDED MUSLIM JIHADIST HOLOCAUST DENIAL DEATH THREATS AGAINST MY LIFE. THIS IS "RESISTING JIHAD"? YOU THINK YOU NEED TO JOIN THIS PHONY AND HER LEMMINGS TO RESIST JIHAD? WAKE THE HECK UP. I WILL BE WRITING MORE ON THIS COMPLETE PHONY, HANAN TUDOR A/K/A BRIGITTE GABRIEL, WHO IS NO EXPERT IN THE LEAST ON JIHAD. SHE'S PRAISED PRO-HAMAS/HEZBOLLAH BENAZIR BHUTTO AS A "MODERATE" AND SHE TOLD BILL O'REILLY THAT OBAMA IS DOING A GREAT JOB REACHING OUT TO MUSLIMS, "BETTER THAN BUSH." AND SHE SAID SHE HAD NO PROBLEM WITH IT OTHER THAN HIS BOW TO THE SAUDI KING. IF THIS IS FROM WHOM YOU ARE TAKING DIRECTION, YOU ARE A COMPLETE FOOL. DS]

Pavlov's dog on May 12, 2009 at 4:52 pm

I think Debbie has been burned by a quite few Muslim and Christian Arabs so that’s why she’s now leery of being associated with them. And who can really blame her? Most of those she met turned out to be Islamopanderers. And she says she has yet to meet ONE who will take a real stand against the Islamic jihad. So when she blogs posts like this one, its from experience. Heed it.

NormanF on May 12, 2009 at 6:16 pm

Deb:
AND TO THINK I WAS GETTING EMAILS FROM THIS ISLAMOFASCIST PHONY GABRIEL AND HER GROUP ACT FOR AMERICA! THE IDEA!
Well I have taken myself off the email subscription list.

NEPatriot on May 12, 2009 at 6:27 pm

I think Debbie would say you did the right thing. Allies are needed in this fight but we need sincere allies and not people who weaken us and undermine us at every turn. That’s why Debbie does the hard work – so you know who is against Islamism for real and who is in it only to fatten their bank account. Life is short and we face today an enemy more numerous with far more territory, influence and power at its disposal than the Communists ever did and America is too divided to fight it effectively.

NormanF on May 12, 2009 at 6:39 pm

[Pavlov's dog:
If Brigitte is a fraud, is there any legitimate organization we can join to resist the jihad?]
Debbie – I believe you should answer this. After all, reading the right articles on the internet (especially yours), as valuable as that educational activity is, cannot possibly be enough. We would actually like to be able to do something.
What good is the information you provide us if we cannot do anything with it?
People are going to join organizations like Brigitte Gabriel’s if they have nowhere else to go.
[IAM: HER NAME IS HANAN TUDOR, NOT "BRIGITTE GABRIEL," WHICH IS HER PORN/STAGE NAME. WHY DO YOU NEED TO JOIN AN ORGANIZATION TO FIGHT JIHAD? IT'S THE THINGS YOU DO EVERY DAY ON YOUR OWN THAT ARE WHAT WORKS, NOT SOME UGLY LEBANESE FRAUD'S FAN CLUB AND BANK ACCOUNT PADDING BASE. I RECOMMEND ORGANIZATIONS LIKE CAMERA.ORG. BUT I'M MORE OF A BELIEVER OF INDIVIDUAL THINKING AND BEHAVIOR. DS]

i_am_me on May 12, 2009 at 7:14 pm

Debbie
Thank you for the lowdown on Jasser, yet another taquiyya artist who feeds into the mainstream myth that most Muslims are not hostile to the US or its Infidel underpinnings.
One thing about Gabriel/Tudor is her willingness to identify herself as an Arab: from what I read, Maronite Christians typically resent any insinuation that they are Arab. As you point out, her praise for Bhutto demonstrates what a dummy she was – today, it’s under Bhutto’s husband that Pakistan is on the verge of becoming the next Taliban ‘emirate’.
And the best resistance to the Jihad is individual, rather than in groups. This sort of guerilla warfare is impossible for CAIR to combat – they can go after Anti-CAIR, JihadWatch and so on, but there is no way they can go after enough of us willing to operate on our own in exposing Muslims for what they are.
Also, the only good Muslim is an ex-Muslim. Or a dead one.
[IP: MARONITE CHRISTIANS DO NOT CALL THEMSELVES ARABS BECAUSE THEY AREN'T ARABS. THEY ARE PHOENICIANS. JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU MORE OF WHAT A DUMMY HANAN TUDOR (PORN NAME: "BRIGITTE GABRIEL") IS. ALSO, OF COURSE SHE IS WILLING TO CALL HERSELF AN "ARAB." SHE WILL SAY WHATEVER IS NECESSARY TO GET HERSELF ON TV AND TO GET ANOTHER $10K SPEECH. DS]

Infidel Pride on May 13, 2009 at 2:15 am

DKS: I dream (and will forever dream) of the day we will see a Muslim (which means an ex-Muslim) or an Arab who is actually putting forth a consistent, truthful, truly peaceful message . . . and not some uninformed double-talk, milked as a money-making enterprise.
Ali Sina seems to fit this bill nicely. Only thing I don’t get about his FFI is that it insists on trying to maintain that they are opposed to Islam, but not Muslims, on the grounds that the ex-Muslims among them have Muslim relatives whom they don’t want to alienate. Well, guess what – they already are, due to them jettisoning Islam.
I dunno whether this is Ali Sina’s own stance, or that of those partners of his who run the site.
[IP: I LIKE ALI SINA. HE IS A TRUTH-TELLER. DS]

Infidel Pride on May 13, 2009 at 6:04 am

I too was on her email and quit awhile back; just a gut feeling I had. We all have hope that we need all we can get in our fight against stealth jihad in America; but I’m glad to see some backup on my gut feelings about BRIGITTE GABRIEL.
Besides she mentioned once in an interview, she was a liberal and voted for Gore..go figure.
We need to have zero tolerence; no compromises or we lose.
I agree we don’t have to join a group; it’s encouraging to know we are not alone. My whole neighborhood in St Louis is populated with Bosnian Muslims (one who just ran for alderman/woman.)
I know most true churches are against any kind of eastern religion and their main objective is to convert; but I never always understood (until now) the complete ideology and global domination of, the culture of death, Islam.
Hitler probably got his trainings of systematic genocide through the Muslims and they joined together in WWII; The Neo-Nazias and the black Nation of Islam in America teamed up in America in the 60s. We got our work cut out for us.

Sybil on May 13, 2009 at 8:16 am

Sybil,
the nazis were allied with the arabs. we only defeated the nazis.
How come it is illegal in Germany to fly a nazi flag where it once was national pride but, here in America you are free to fly it anywhere?

Scott on May 13, 2009 at 8:42 am

Hitler probably got his trainings of systematic genocide through the Muslims
Posted by: Sybil at May 13, 2009 08:16 AM
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Food for thought:
http://prophetofdoom.net/Mein_Kampf.Islam

Shy Guy on May 13, 2009 at 8:47 am

Perhaps there are two different korans. One for militant muslims and one for moderate muslims. Perhaps there is a lighter side of mohamad, islam light. Only half the jihad, same low price. Or maybe Mr. Jasser has been threatened or his family has been threatened so he won’t say too many bad things. Like Churchill said (the British Churchill), “You have to feed the alligator and hope he doesn’t eat you.” Oh, I think I got that wrong.

Scott on May 13, 2009 at 8:49 am

Hey Sybil, try this on for size:
“Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers ñ already, you see, the world had already fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing Christianity! ñ then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so.”
A quote from Adolf Hitler, 28 August 1942 [p. 667 Hitler's Table Talk; 1941-1944 translated by N. Cameron and R.H. Stevens, Enigma Books (1953)]
Debbie,
Thanks for the expose on this person. I am not going to waste my time on a bad group, but I STRONGLY disagree with you about there not being a need to join or create a group. You may think me a fool, but as individuals reading, seething, and commenting, we are little more than a debating society.

Pavlov's dog on May 13, 2009 at 12:43 pm

Well, I am upset by this information. I accept it as true as I have found Debbie to be a thorough researcher and always honest. I was contacted by phone last year and asked to donate money toward this film’s production. I did not donate but I believed that the film was worthy based on a very long, friendly telephone conversation. Never once in that conversation did the caller mention Dr. Jasser! He never mentioned that the film was produced, based on or invovled the perspective of a particular Muslim American! I do, however, see that mentioned on the Clarion Website (today). Perhpas, the caller thought that piece of information would be detrimental to fundraising. So, I understand the consternation of other commenters here. I think I cannot be “taken in.” And I allowed myself to hear what I hoped to hear. I did mention the production of the movie to some others in a positive way. I feel chagrined. Lesson learned: Spend more time checking things out!

crazycatkids on May 13, 2009 at 12:58 pm

I heard Camera. orgs Andrea Levin speak once. She was quite effective discussing media bias.
After Rabbi Kahane died, I really have no desire to join another organization. I try to help by writing letters, calling talkshows, and joining some protests.

Underzog on May 14, 2009 at 7:00 am

“There are many of us who are totally frustrated having to sit by and watch the pro-muslim groups organize and become a voice in the community with NO or very little response.”
Amen to that.
I still think Debbie is one of the most cutting-edge investigative journalists on the web.

Pavlov's dog on May 14, 2009 at 8:39 am

“I still think Debbie is one of the most cutting-edge investigative journalists on the web.”
This is not all I said. I also expressed disappointment with Debbie’s dismissive and self-righteous attitude towards people who feel the need to join organizations.
Now I am even more disappointed that someone in control of the comments has had the audacity to edit my post.
If you don’t like what I said, just remove the WHOLE THING!
[PD: THAT IS, INDEED, WHAT YOU SAID. YOU ALSO PERSONALLY INSULTED AND ATTACKED ME. YOU'VE POSTED SEVERAL SUCH DISMISSIVE AND INSULTING COMMENTS. WHEN ANYONE DOES THAT, I EITHER REMOVE THE COMMENT OR EDIT IT. AS YOU WELL KNOW, I DIDN'T ATTACK ORGANIZATIONS, I ATTACKED A PHONY, DO-NOTHING FAN CLUB FOR HANAN TUDOR A/K/A "BRIGITTE GABRIEL," WHO RAISED MONEY FOR AN ORGANIZATION DEFENDING MUSLIM DEATH THREATS ON MY LIFE AND MY FAMILY. WHEN YOU DON'T LIKE YOUR WORDS DISTORTED, THINK HOW YOU DISTORTED MINE TO DEFEND THIS LEBANESE BIMBO AND FRAUD. ANYONE WHO FEELS THAT THEY MUST JOIN AN ORGANIZATION TO FIGHT JIHAD IS CLUELESS. DS]

Pavlov's dog on May 14, 2009 at 12:53 pm

If Mr. Jasser is serious about the threat of radical Islam he would quit his faith altogether, like many other Islamic apostates have done, and declare his freedom from the tyranny of Islam. Then he could tell the truth about what Islam truly is.
I wrote him a letter about two months back asking him this very question but I never received a reply. Perhaps it is because he is a coward or perhaps Jasser is simply trying to lull us all to sleep with “the peaceful Islamists of America”.
Perhaps if more people wrote him he might get the message and respond.

al Kidya on December 18, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    So people should leave their faith if a bunch of radical nutters cause problems … good heavens there would be no faith left lol

    SAB on July 27, 2010 at 4:48 pm

      We are talking about islam, not “faith.” Only islam is a totalitarian, political ideology based on the words of mohammed. mo was a rapist, a torturer, a child abuser, and a narcissist who demanded that all muslims live their lives as closely to his as possible. Therein lies the problem

      If you revere mo, you are not peaceful.
      If you don’t revere mo, you are not a muslim.

      No “peaceful muslims.” It’s an oxymoron.

      Living in perilous times on July 24, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    After watching The Third Jihad I wanted to email Zudhi Jasser and ask him the same question you brought up. Given the quotes from the Koran in support of violent jihad for world supremacy that he narrates in the documentary, how does he stay a practicing Muslim? If you’re still out there listening, could you and I start a dialog about this? I’m working on a novel that exposes false prophets and evil excesses in history and in present time in ALL of the religions of the book – Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. I started with the premise that there was a “good Islam” that had been corrupted by radical leaders. But the more research I’ve done, the closer I come to believing that Mohammed was the original false prophet at the heart of radical Islam. Would value the ability to email with you.

    Tom

    Tom on February 27, 2011 at 8:56 pm

      To start a dialogue, we must ask: How can anyone say they be lieve in a faith whose creator was a murdering, beheading, rapist? If you follow him, you are not peaceful. If you leave him out, it is no longer islam.

      Once all of us who wished for the “peaceful muslim” wake up to this simple fact — there is no islam without mo mo based his life and belief system on violence.Therefore, as much as we may want it, there cannot be a “peaceful muslim.”

      Living in perilous times on July 24, 2012 at 5:48 pm

Hi Debbie, I am a practicing Muslim, and while we will most likely disagree on many issues and your (mis)-understanding of Islam, I do agree with you that Mr. Jasser is a two faced individual without substance and any principals.

It is outside my hand (even if I had ample time to explain Islam to you) to change your heart & mind about your (mis) understanding of Islam, as the changer of hearts is the almighty, but if you are ever interested in getting a different perspective and potentially coming across what might make more sense, then feel free to email me.

Tawab on August 21, 2010 at 8:32 am

wow! America is truly going down the tubes!

when lines like this receive any sort of credibility then we need to beware!:

“Islam is not peaceful. Whether or not Muslims belong to a mosque is not the determinant of their radicalism, only an adding factor. I know some extremely secular Muslims who drink alcohol and haven’t been to a mosque in decades. But they love Hezbollah and HAMAS and hate Jews, Christians, America, and Israel. If the majority of Muslims are really peaceful and don’t support terrorist groups, why did I see ten thousand Muslims–during the workday–marching on the streets of Dearborn and Detroit in support of Hezbollah and HAMAS in both 2006 and early 2009? Why do Bin Laden, HAMAS, Hezbollah, Ahmadinejad, and Nasrallah remain the most popular figures and entities in poll after poll of Muslims? Why do a third of young American Muslims support homicide bombings?”
“Muslims” who drink alcohol, don’t attend mosque, and don’t practice Islam, hate anyone and support terrorism don’t represent Islam.i am glad you put those two categories together..non-praqcticing muslims and supports of terrorism Also a survey that hasn’t polled every single young Muslim in America can never purport anything about 1/3 of young American Muslims

“I dream (and will forever dream) of the day we will see a Muslim (which means an ex-Muslim) or an Arab who is actually putting forth a consistent, truthful, truly peaceful message.”eed is say more! the idea that an ex-muslim is qualified to discuss Islam is an fallacy based on an argument from authority.

“Remember, “taqiyyah”–the Islamic concept of lying to and deceiving infidels–is something Dr. Jasser doesn’t talk about. But something he practices far more than he preaches.”
Why the deception? this isn’t the definition of taqiyyah

“This is very disturbing. Are there no Muslims or Arab Christians in this country who are legitimately
anti-Islam/anti-jihad?”
More facetiousness! why would a Muslim be anti-Islam or ant- jihad? tell me, what do you think jihad is?

“Thank you for the lowdown on Jasser, yet another taquiyya artist who feeds into the mainstream myth that most Muslims are not hostile to the US or its Infidel underpinnings.”
No Muslims are hostile to US period!!!

“Also, the only good Muslim is an ex-Muslim. Or a dead one.”
Need i say more about the above comment!!! no credibility!!!

“I LIKE ALI SINA. HE IS A TRUTH-TELLER.”
Ali Sina is a proven Muslim hating liar who represents the phenomenon of “ex-muslims revealing the trutyh about Islam”. What should disturb the genuine seeker of truth is how consistently these “former muslims” show their complete lack of knowlr=edge about Islam

“fight against stealth jihad”
What is stealth Jihad? i would like a definition before i laugh

“but I never always understood (until now) the complete ideology and global domination of, the culture of death, Islam.
Hitler probably got his trainings of systematic genocide through the Muslims and they joined together in WWII; The Neo-Nazias and the black Nation of Islam in America teamed up in America in the 60s. We got our work cut out for us.”
Need i say more about this nonsense and how it shows a lack of underswtanding of Islam and history for that matter!!

Hitler probably got his trainings of systematic genocide through the Muslims

“If Mr. Jasser is serious about the threat of radical Islam he would quit his faith altogether, like many other Islamic apostates have done, and declare his freedom from the tyranny of Islam. Then he could tell the truth about what Islam truly is.
I wrote him a letter about two months back asking him this very question but I never received a reply. Perhaps it is because he is a coward or perhaps Jasser is simply trying to lull us all to sleep with “the peaceful Islamists of America”.
Perhaps if more people wrote him he might get the message and respond.”
Perhaps you are unaware that “radical Islam” is completely non-existent. Until Americans are ready to talk about their true enemies and stop connecting terrorism with Islam, there is no hope.

“I still think Debbie is one of the most cutting-edge investigative journalists on the web.”
Even if that were true, what she definitely is not is an Islamic scholar and her opinions about Islam hold no weight.

“It is outside my hand (even if I had ample time to explain Islam to you) to change your heart & mind about your (mis) understanding of Islam, as the changer of hearts is the almighty, but if you are ever interested in getting a different perspective and potentially coming across what might make more sense, then feel free to email me.”

i wonder if she e-mailed you

muhammad abd al-haqq on August 24, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    Sadly once again we see the taqiyya of islam in action
    A cult that mandates the telling of lies to advance its cause,a cult that refers to non muslims as the vilest of creatures and instructs its followers not to befriend non muslims
    A cult where the leader encouraged the murder of those who offended him and the telling of lies to lull the prospective victim/s into a sense false security,a man who had no compulsion about breaking an oath–
    Misunderstanding islam– Deborah has it nailed for what it is.

    Tommy on June 21, 2012 at 10:02 am

@Debbie – Jasser states that approximately 40% (~1,200,000) of Muslims in America agree with his position of Country first, islam second – another 40% or 1,200,000 attend Mosque every Friday and the remaining 20% or 600,000 are not active and seek only peace and quiet which is why they fled the tyranny of their former theocracy State …

This is consistant with his statement that most muslims do want peace or certainly are not jihadists, so please enlighten me why his open plea for reform and seperation of mosque and state is wrong ?

GringoBob

Bob Cash on September 16, 2010 at 6:26 pm

I am new your blog. What has Brigitte Gabriel done?

D: There is no “Brigitte Gabriel.” That’s the fraudulent porn name used by the utter fake Hanan Tudor, who knows little about Islamic terrorism and raised money for an organization that praised Muslim death, rape, and torture threats against me and my family. She goes to Black churches and praises Barack Obama and praised Obama’s Muslim outreach. She’s a total liar and fraud. WAKE. UP. DS

Daisy on December 17, 2010 at 2:40 pm

Sorry, but it seems like there has already been a judgement against Islam before the conversation even started. You have already determined that you hate Islam, are threatened by Muslims…so how can we talk?

When will we stop using our blogs and comments sections as a platform for biased interpretation based on our agendas or strong political platform I don’t see the point in discussing the matter. zzzz (And no, I am not a liberal far from it, didn’t vote for Obama)

Who cares what this Syrian so called Muslim thinks? Why don’t you ask a “real” representative of Muslims, someone who is respected by Muslims or an American Muslim who understands our American Culture who just happens to be Muslim?

Many seem to forget history. Muslims came to American on those slave ships. African slaves were living in terror, amongst terrorist who did sinister things to slave men, women and little girls and turned around on Sunday and praised the lord in the church- that didn’t allow blacks to worship. Do you see the hypocrisy here? Why can’t we see that with over 2 million American in prisons, one million abortions, that Muslims and Islam isn’t America’s problem, we have our own issues. (Before we start talking about 9/11, lets talk about building 7)

Yes there are Muslim hypocrites also who wave the religion like a trophy and then hit the Jack and coke when no one is watching. Why do they do it? They use religion for their own selfish platforms. You can’t serve two masters, the dollar and power, and then say you are so God fearing and speak for your people. Wake up people, we had our hands in much of the instability in the Middle East, and we pretend like we didn’t overthrow democratically elected governments overseas and in Latina Americans (Iranian coup 1953) When domestic hate groups are on the rise in this nation and you have our own domestic terrorist running into buildings and bombing things (doesn’t get as much news coverage) what this man thinks, his movies are irrelevant.

M. Zuhdi Jasser, MD is irrelevant period. He doesn’t represent Muslim Americans but those out there that want to use him will milk his double standards for all they can. . So just because he put out the kind of video that strokes your worst fears, you shouldn’t have automatically embraced him in the first place.

Lets think about this irony for a moment. We are a country that says we believe in freedom and justice, we have a beautiful constitution, but somehow we ignore all manner of wisdom when it comes to implementing the constitution.

I don’t trust disinformationist of this world who love to used fake Crypto Muslims or Christians to do their bidding. Ask the ones representing Christians about gay clergy and gay marriages performed in the church….need I say more.

Islam like any religion has good followers and bad followers. When you see folks overseas behaving badly talking about Jihad it is mainly political theater and backwards thinking folks who are funded by……. know or care little about their own religion.

Look around you, not all Muslims are Arabs, or even Pakistanis, did you know that the largest ethnic group of Muslims are African Americans and I am not talking about Nation of Islam. I am talking about highly skilled and educated people who marry first and have their children under that union, are tax payers, and contribute to society. The second most fastest growing group are Latinos. There is a huge Mosque in Mexico City out of all places.

A lot of you are afraid of Islam. You listen to what some guy who is funded by an Israeli group says because he is feeding into what you want to believe and think. I am here to tell you that Muslims (especially immigrants) are more afraid than you are. They live simple lives and want what most Americans want. The freedom to practice their own religion, work, marry and live in the pursuit of happiness. They don’t hate Americans, or plot to do evil. In fact many of them are in the high tech field. They get recruited by American companies. They work in Engineering and Medicine, they open businesses. They wash their feet, and face like Jesus did before praying, and pray 5 times a day, they don’t eat pork, they fear God and don’t abort their unborn children. They are traditional, and some are not traditional. Some are your doctors, others are teachers. They open up free medical clinics (Shifa Clinics) They cook fabulous meals from around around the world. Many of the ladies cover, just like the Mother of Mary covered wearing scarves. Modesty is something many Christians talk about, but for Muslims, it is a vital part in their lifestyles. It doesn’t mean that all practice it. Muslims serve in the Army, Air Force, Marine and Navy, they vote. They don’t speak out politically because they are afraid they will be targeted by the government and haters. Muslims and Christians have one huge thing in common. They believe in your prophets,they believe that Jesus was the Messiah, even Jews are still waiting. They have one chapter in the Quran that is devoted to Mary mother of Jesus.

My friends we need to change our ways. We need to take a fresh look at Muslims in America. Study Spain and how Muslims, Christians and Jews lived in peace for hundreds of years before the Pope decree to “cleanse” Spain. In fact it was the Turkish who rescued many Jews and invited them to settle in Turkey hundreds of years ago. To this day there is a Turkish Jewish population, just like there was in Iraq, and is in Syrian, Morocco, Iran…

I am asking my fellow Americans to stop demonizing Islam and Muslims and start focusing on our own problems that affects all of us. Exa: open borders, drug and gang cartels, the family, morality issues, domestic violence against women, drug problems in our society, AIDS, etc…

I am sure my post won’t make it through the gate keepers, for those reasons I am most likely wasting my time but wanted to give a different perspective.

Lynn on March 12, 2011 at 3:04 pm

Wow, Debbie. Thank God a non-Muslim such as yourself is such an expert on this.

Yo Mama on May 15, 2011 at 1:23 am

Above, a person asked: “Debbie, I just posted a story about Kamal Saleem on my blog. Do you know if he’s a phony too?”

I’d love to see your reply. On another of your links, you call him a charlatan con man, but don’t go into any detail.

Phil on July 24, 2011 at 9:41 pm

Man you one fucking bastard. I will cut of your hands and feet and let you lick the earth while you die like the motherfucker you are! Bastard!!!

Your death on August 22, 2012 at 7:00 pm

The Art of War by Sun Tzu, should be required reading in every High School Social Studies or History class. US Military academies require it. Many heads of large corporations read it. Mao led a revolution with an inferior force and conquered and his government is still in power. and Hoang Minh Thao advised General Vo Nguyen Giap, the Commander and Chief of the N. Vietnamese, on the theories and principals of Sun Tzu which were employed successfully against the Americans-a superior force. Throughout time inferior forces have used the theories and lesson taught long ago by Sun Tzu in order to gain victory. The Arabs and Islam are now using the same teachings to wage their war upon countries and armies of superior force. Why has the doctrine survived so long? because it works. The proof is in the pudding. Americans are either naive, foolish or just plain stupid if they cannot see what the relationships between “radical” Islam and “peaceful” Islam. They working in coalition with one another to make an internal overthrow of the US. It is already occurring in Britain, Spain, Russia and other parts of Europe and it has started here. The terrorists of 911 were trained in America by American flight schools and American pilots. Could this be anymore Sun Tzuian?

Sean on November 22, 2012 at 7:02 am

You omitted another option: One can continually repeat falsehoods AS IF they were facts, like you did.

What you stated about Juhdi Jasser is an understatement. He is equivalent of a Black person’s “uncle Tom”. I am not surprised that the masjid asked him to leave. It’s sad that he mischaracterizes Muslims and Muslim organizations the way that he does.

But more appalling is YOUR mischaracterization of Islam. Based on your posts, Debbie, you know VERY little to NOTHING about Islam.

If and when non-Muslims commit the same or similar misdeeds, you (and other Islamaphobes) don’t blame those persons’ religion. You blame those individuals. Why isn’t the same applied across the board? If you only know the BASICS of Islam, you’d know that Islam does NOT teach any to kill innocent people. You, apparently, don’t even know the basics. You, like all Islamaphobes, hypocritically misjudge the group and their religion based on the misdeeds of the few.

Those “Muslims” whom you claim drink alcohol and haven’t been to the mosque in decades”….. That, alone, places doubt on them being Muslims at all! What? MINOs (Muslims in Name ONLY)??!! What makes them Muslims?

You might know more Muslims than you think. That upstanding person in YOUR community or the outstanding citizen you deal with on a regular basis who you admire MIGHT BE A MUSLIM!

We don’t all look alike OR wear any particular outfits. Go meet some Muslims in your area and learn a thing or two about Islam (that’s contrary to your current mindset about Islam).

Galen Muhammad on June 26, 2014 at 1:03 pm

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