July 24, 2012, - 2:22 pm

What Batman Shooter James Holmes & Some Muslims Have in Common: Where He Got the Money

By Debbie Schlussel

Yesterday (Monday) Morning, I appeared on San Antonio ABC Radio’s “Jack Riccardi Show,” and Jack asked me where I think the Aurora, Colorado Batman shooter James Holmes got the money to buy thousands of dollars in guns, bullets, and tactical gear. I told him I’d bet he got it from student loans and/or federal aid to students. And I was right. On Monday Afternoon, University of Colorado officials announced that Holmes was paid $26,000 per year for his studies. (The money was apparently a grant from the government’s National Institutes of Health to study neuroscience.) Although the money was not a loan, it was, indeed, federal aid.

As I told Riccardi, a secular Muslim client of mine once told me that University of Phoenix and Davenport University–two national chains of for-profit colleges (I call them “McUniversities”)–have a lot of students who simply live off of thousands of dollars in federal aid and go to school forever. The client told me that University of Phoenix began to crack down on this, but that Davenport did not. He also told me that many Muslim students engage in this as a sort of “halal” money (permissible money) because it’s the money of the infidels and seen as an easy scam. And there’s very little oversight. Since 9/11, I know that federal agents briefly looked into foreign students doing this and using it to live while they either didn’t attend class or had someone take their tests for them, as has happened in several student visa fraud rings. But the feds did little about this–students collecting loans and other federal aid while they were not legitimately in school, even though some of the students collecting the money had apparent terrorist ties.


And, so, I’m not surprised that this is apparently how the massacre perpetrator James Holmes was able to acquire enough money to carry out his plot, even though he was unemployed and his parents seem to be of modest middle class means. It was very easy to do and fly under the radar.

If students linked to Islamic terrorism can get away with it, why not this average, unknown White guy? If students can go to the online universities for years on end and live off of the aid, it’s not surprising that Holmes, who had special grants from the government for his specific, unique course of study, could do the same.

Doctoral students receive free tuition, and most get federally sponsored 12-month grants of $26,000, about $500 a week.

I’m sure there will be all kinds of grandstanding Congressional committee hearings and pretense of clamping down on this. But it’s been going on for years. And if it didn’t take 9/11 to tighten up the system, this won’t change it either. There is always a way around the system for terrorists and monsters who mastermind evil.

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48 Responses

I love how Debbie’s articles are like turning the kitchen lights on the cockroaches – watch ‘em scurry!

DS_ROCKS! on July 24, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    Where is the oversight?

    As Goes... on July 24, 2012 at 3:25 pm

      ?? . . . . what oversight?

      PhillipGaley on July 25, 2012 at 11:18 am

It is amazing that student grant usage does not require a paper trail. You might as well hand someone a stack of bills, and walk away. Could the University of Colorado find itself in trouble for not monitoring the use of its grants? Forcing James Holmes to furnish copies of bills, receipts, and other materials in support of his expense claims would have stopped him dead in his tracks. His first attempt to acquire an armory and explosives cache would have led to his expulsion and at least civil charges of misuse of funds being filed against him. This is an example where catching someone committing a minor would have probably stopped or at least impeded the commission of a greater crime.

Worry on July 24, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    Usually loans are paid out by the semester and the student only gets the difference between the loan amount and college costs after classes start. Some schools wait quite some time but the honest student doesn’t get rich on them. I had a few about 10 years ago. What I found interesting is that around college towns, rents are high because landlords assume a bunch of students will share. This makes it hard on someone like myself who was older and married to find affordable housing even with a working husband. Major matters too. I was an art major, very high expenses every semester for materials. So I still don’t understand how, unless grants are different and they’re paid upfront for the full year, he could have financed all this stuff alone. And yes, my loans are paid off.

    Italkit on July 24, 2012 at 2:49 pm

      The rent is high because landlords know that students have these government backed loans, they know students have money and will pay rent.

      This is the same reason why tuition at colleges is very high, because universities know that students will have money via federal loans.

      And so we have these twenty something year old adults who have thousands of dollars worth of loans with no prospect of finding a job.

      max on July 24, 2012 at 3:16 pm

        We’ve out sourced our work to China… is it any wonder young people can’t find work today?

        Basically, as Debbie wrote some time ago, we’ve stopped making stuff. Everything in the stores is imported.

        When Debbie and I were children, everything, with a few exceptions was still made in America. A nation that consumes everything and produces nothing, like ours does nowadays, has no real future.

        That’s true in our Obaconomy, which is tough. Just don’t hold your breath waiting for a true American revival.

        NormanF on July 24, 2012 at 4:13 pm

          The outsourcing started in the 80s, can’t blame Obama for it. To top it off, we now are bringing in cheap foreign workers from India on H1B visa and hiring them in masses while american STEM(Science Technology Engeneering and Math) workers are with out a job.

          max on July 24, 2012 at 4:32 pm

          NormanF,

          And whose fault do you think THAT is?

          Face it, American workers are OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive. When business conditions are more attractive in a Communist country such as China, that alone should be enough to convince Americans that they are doing something wrong.

          Statusmonkey on July 25, 2012 at 1:47 am

        I know that max, what I’m saying is that $26K isn’t a lot of money so he and the muzzie terrorists need more than just a loan or a grant and it doesn’t mean they aren’t enrolled. A combination of $25K in loan and and additional $26K will cover living expenses plus the $10K tuition. Have you priced a text book lately? Some of the science and math ones on the grad level cost upwards of $200 EACH and most profs want you to buy the NEWEST edition, so no used ones. Anyone who has “extra curricular” activities needs a sponsor, so while it’s true that your tax dollars are funding terrorism, you have to look further. This student loan/grant business is a distraction. Follow the HIDDEN money.

        Italkit on July 25, 2012 at 2:20 am

          and only a few of the chosen get grants of any substance.

          Italkit on July 25, 2012 at 2:22 am

      Good point.

      The “starving student” expression is real enough. After all the monthly expenses, there’s little left for most students.

      Holmes didn’t come from a rich family and unless he had unreported income from somewhere, its hard to see where he got all the money up front to pay for his private arsenal.

      I don’t think the federal grant covered the entire amount and I would love to know how he paid for rent (I am assuming the landlord covered utilities) and food at the same time. This adds another layer of mystery to Holmes’ life.

      There are unanswered questions to which we’ll probably never know the full truth.

      NormanF on July 24, 2012 at 4:07 pm

      Thank you for being a voice of reason.

      Debbie wants Holmes to be an Occupy Wall Street black bloc terrorist with ties to al-queda that Obama is funding through outrageously liberal college loans that payout without any paper trail so Obama can take away our guns.

      Go ahead and use that Debbie. Breathlessly, please.

      Anon77777 on August 15, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    Worry,

    I’m opposed to it! As a law-abiding citizen, I understand accurate information should be provided to determine if we’re eligible for a public service.

    But I don’t want our government to do to me what Israel’s government did to a terrorism victim named Kay Wilson. I don’t wanted to be treated like I’m the criminal.

    And documents, like bills of lading, receipts, expense statements, etc. can be forged. Islamic terrorists know this.

    They would like nothing better than to have the rest of us burdened with mountains of extra paperwork while they find ways around it. And they always do.

    Making the rules tougher will only make live harder for those of us who live by the rules. I guarantee you doing that will not stop a single evil person or Islamic terrorist bent upon
    inflicting mayhem.

    We shouldn’t be punished for something Holmes’ did. That’s merely security theater (like at the airports – hellloooo TSA?) and sooner or later even your rules will get substantially relaxed because its just too much work!

    If you can find a way to target just the bad guys, I’d be all in favor of it.

    NormanF on July 24, 2012 at 3:58 pm

I was going to comment before I answered Worry, if you still believe this guy acted alone?

Worry, just to be clear, Student loans and grants are for all related expenses including reasonable living expenses which include transportation. Unis can’t be bothered tracking several thousand students thru every grocery, toothpaste and bus fare purchase. They also don’t want to bog students down in this petty accounting. It’s assumed that if the student is attending classes, he used the money properly.

I had posted earlier that it was “possible” for student loans to cover these purchases but Debbie, what was Holmes living on if all his grant money was going for WMD? No, I think he used it for living, $26K is not a lot of money, and got the money for armaments elsewhere.

Italkit on July 24, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    In a better world, I would agree with you Italkit. Also, there is a way to do it without the paperwork being excessive. Personal expenses could be handled through a pre-paid debit card. There would be a papertrail to audit if there were questions. Also, as credit card issuers already do, algorithms to note unusually activity, such as excessive online purchases or big ticket items. Visa or Mastercard debit cards could be issued instead of disbursement checks or automatic deposits, which are obviously not easily tracked. Because of the large sums involved, allowing student grants and loans to go under the radar of audit is far too risky now.

    It is cheaper to check out a student’s grocery bill now than to have to pay out millions towards settling civil lawsuits down the road.

    I do not like what is happening either Italkit.

    Worry on July 24, 2012 at 3:33 pm

      Worry, who do you think does the grunt work in Uni business offices? Don’t you know those are work study jobs so it’s other STUDENTS and come on! a big State uni just has too many students to go thru their visa bills.

      Italkit on July 25, 2012 at 2:26 am

    I do not think that I said James Holmes acted alone. It is possible that he got assistance or encouragement from others. What makes me suspicious is the rather odd behavior of his family and his access to funds for his purchases(assuming no grant or loan money was used). From what I have read before Mr. Holmes’s last job was a part-time one at McDonald’s.

    Worry on July 24, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    Agreed….. I imagine explosives like those found in Holmes’
    apartment weren’t jury-rigged. If you have to send a bomb squad to the suspect home, I’m sure his federal grant couldn’t pay for such high-quality stuff. Like I asked Debbie, where did he acquire them? You can’t just walk into a hardware store and buy them and I think the precursors to make explosives are tracked by the federal government. No way he could have flown under the radar with that kind of acquisition.

    NormanF on July 24, 2012 at 4:20 pm

      It was reported that Holmes ordered 6,000 rounds of high-powered ammo online, but not a peep out of or a red flag raised by anybody…

      Those who are more familiar with ammo than I am are free to correct my impression, but that sounds like enough ammo to supply a small police department for a month or two…

      Linky Drake on July 26, 2012 at 1:47 pm

Well, those student loans – this all is polish jews fault Debbie. They have done it to destroy America and build new Israel instead… Pure evil!!!

Eve on July 24, 2012 at 3:10 pm

OOOH, was that a slap at Israeli me, Eva? FWIW, I’m not polish, thank God!

Italkit on July 24, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    Be glad you are not – they are the worst. They moved from poland and surrounding countries – they are everywhere in America trying to blame on muslims and step by step taking over the country.

    Eve on July 24, 2012 at 3:40 pm

      Eve, sweetie, thanks for reminding us of how detestable–and whiny!–the Polaks are.

      skzion on July 24, 2012 at 4:26 pm

      Whatever dude.

      Worry on July 24, 2012 at 7:32 pm

..yada yada yada…’federal aid to students’….

please help me understand, Deb, why we have more records and know more about Holmes’ background than we do about Bearick Barry Barry Soetoro Hussein Obama Harrison J. Bounel????

Nick Fury on July 24, 2012 at 3:31 pm

@ Ital “$26K is not a lot of money”

Uh, it is to me.

When you have a mortgage, car payments, braces for the kids, sky-high electricity in summertime in southern California, $4/gal. gas (when it used to be $1.85 before Obama), etc., we’re clipping coupons just to meet our basic obligations.

Now, a college kid who can live off of 4-for-a-dollar ramen noodles and shop at thrift stores (I did that during my college years), 26K goes a long way toward buying an AR-15, gas masks, etc.

I could sure use $26 right now to replace my old car with the broken A/C.

DS_ROCKS! on July 24, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    DS_Rocks, that’s what I mean and it only barely covers expenses in college if you are rooming with a few other people and living on Ramen. In terms of buying power, it’s not a lot today. Read my reply to Worry above about tuition, the cost of grad level books in science and math and you’ll understand what I mean. Deduct the $11K for tuition and fees at his level then try to live on $15k including buying about $1.5-2K in textbooks, driving on $4 gallons of gas. You’re lucky to cover rent and Ramen.

    Italkit on July 25, 2012 at 2:36 am

…maybe Axel Von Zipper might post an answer here..?

Nick Fury on July 24, 2012 at 3:38 pm

Nothing will happen…. he’ll never to repay the money.

No lawyer is going to file a lawsuit because Holmes’ is essentially judgment-proof.

There’s no squeezing the stone when its dry. And the victims’ families won’t get money from the government for their expenses related to James Holmes’ terrorism. Now there’s irony for y’all.

While he ripped off enough fed money to buy explosives. Again, Debbie where he did buy them from? I would love to know!

If he could divert the money, you can bet Islamic terrorists passing themselves off as students here also divert their grants to terrorism. And how many legitimately do study here? No one really knows.

And who checks on them to make sure the money is being spent as its intended? Imagine that, tax-free income for the rest of your life (studying in school). And I was a sucker paying for my graduate school education!

Live and learn.

NormanF on July 24, 2012 at 3:41 pm

Its true Holmes’ and Islamic terrorists probably game a legitimate program intended to help truly deserving students.

When the human mind is wont to do evil, essentially the law can do nothing. You can’t read people’s minds and none of us wants to live in a society where the government can know what we’re thinking.

In a free society, we’re pretty good at self-policing our own behavior. But there will always be people who for one reason or another, decide to break the rules. We will always have them with us.

NormanF on July 24, 2012 at 3:47 pm

Is that true what the resources are providing: the MENSA IQ level is lower for americans than for any other nation? Apparently it must be the highiest 2 per cent of the whole population. Well done america!!!

Kak on July 24, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    To the aptly named kak: if you are going to pose as superior, you should at least write intelligibly. Maybe it’s the Polish educational system.

    skzion on July 24, 2012 at 4:24 pm

      nope :-) The are just by the boarder and I have no clue about their educational system. BTW one of them is my parents gardener…

      Kak on July 25, 2012 at 2:51 am

    Kak, try evolving some before posting again. This is not the place to work out your illiteracy problem.

    Worry on July 24, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    Mensa lowered their admission standard from 2% to 3% a few years ago. They do separate out the 1% however as the special among the special. I left when they couldn’t figure out that it made more sense to assign chapters geographically that by zip code.

    Italkit on July 25, 2012 at 2:38 am

I’m not smart enough to have been a graduate student and get student ‘loans’ (sic), but are student loans the only source of financial aid that graduate students can get? Or that undergrads get while ‘preparing’ for graduate school? Of course not.

And re the lack of regulation of student loans(sic). It seems that student loan recipients, gentleman farmers, welfare recipients, etc., regulation is non-existent. It is just the evil businessmen who are regulated seriously.

Little Al on July 24, 2012 at 3:55 pm

BTW, “Eve” is apparently “Kak,” which, if one Googles for the definition of the latter, makes complete sense.

skzion on July 24, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    Is Kak becoming Eve, or is Eve becoming Kak?

    Worry on July 24, 2012 at 7:37 pm

      Guess it’s good I turned in my MENSA card, I missed that. OOPS!

      Italkit on July 25, 2012 at 2:40 am

Debbie, I’m a fan of yours. But I believe you owe the parents of James Holmes a huge apology for contending they were liars and obstructing justice after ABC and NBC misrepresented Mrs. Holmes’ statements. I expect the Left to be shameless and never to apologize. But I expect more of you.

RoboSlater on July 25, 2012 at 4:43 am

And BO wants to reduce interest on student loans, make more student loans, encourages more to go to college, and maybe not pay back student loans?? Is this a signal to the muslims to COME ON OVER AND WE WILL PAY FOR YOU TO DESTROY AMERICA????

Lyn on July 25, 2012 at 1:23 pm

Gun sales in Colorado have spiked after the shooting.

The lesson is the police won’t be there to protect you and that’s a correct assumption.

The Aurora theater management banned RTC permit holders from entering the theater. All their “gun free” zone accomplished was to create a venue where a homicidal maniac like Homes could slaughter a lot of people at will.

Sure the cops got there but in these kinds of cases its usually almost always after the fact. We have to defend ourselves and I for one would never allow the idiotic management of any business to strip me of my right to carry for self-defense.

If they insist, I’ll take my business elsewhere. The bottom line being we are responsible for protecting our lives and that of others. No government on earth can truly remove the killers in our midst.

NormanF on July 25, 2012 at 3:09 pm

Sorry, as I’ve been taking You seriously, this time it’s a bit of fantasy – You shouldn’t see a bad Muslim in every corner of the street !
Please, take a fact this guy is obviously disordered. Nevertheless he should face what he deserves.
Much love.

drklimczak on July 26, 2012 at 4:12 pm

To the woman who wrote this article and all the islamaphobia dumb a out there. It is not only “Muslims” you ignorant a.. People have been doing the student load scam for ages….. People need to stop blaming everything on Islam. Maybe people should educate Them selves on something before they are going to make a statement about a religion they know absolutely nothing about. It’s sad to say but guess what most Muslims know the Jewish and Christian religions better than people who claim to be from one of those groups. Unless you have studied Islam then you can not make a sound statement. Simply because you having no fing idea what your talking about.

Ashley on July 27, 2012 at 9:52 am

Ps before every one gets their panties in a bunch I know she said a secular Muslim friend of hers….. Well the man obviously does not know his religion him self enough to share with her or he would have shared the difference between the Muslim groups so as to educate her not to classify them all together.

Ashley on July 27, 2012 at 9:55 am

This, like all the other articles on this website, is extremely poorly written. Most people who choose to set up a blog may not be factually correct all the time but at least you would expect the level of English to be of a standard that could get a student through high school.

Brian phillippe urk Lolles on July 28, 2012 at 1:38 pm

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