August 23, 2012, - 5:25 pm

Turkish Man Molests Sleeping US Passenger – Guess the Religion (VIDEO)

By Debbie Schlussel

Hey, yet another example on the dung-heap of “Islamic modesty”:

A North Bergen man is accused of sexually abusing a woman who fell asleep during a five-hour United Airlines flight from Phoenix to Newark Liberty Airport.

Bawer Aksal, 48, was arrested Tuesday when the plane landed.


According to prosecutors, Aksal was seated next to a woman who had the window seat. They didn’t know each other.

At one point during the flight, prosecutors said the woman fell asleep. When she woke up, prosecutors said Aksal had one hand in her shorts and another in her shirt.

According to the FBI complaint, Aksal, who was breathing heavy whispered to the victim “Kiss me.”

Prosecutors said the alarmed woman told Aksal to get off of her and slammed down the armrest. She then told a member of the flight crew what happened. The victim’s story was backed up by the passenger sitting on the other side of Aksal, who was isolated on the plane after the alleged incident and arrested as soon as the flight landed.

Police said the flight crew isolated the suspect on the plane after the alleged assault. . . .

According to the complaint, Aksal was interviewed by law enforcement officers when the plane landed and read his rights. Nonetheless, according to the complaint, Aksal admitted groping the woman, but claimed it was consensual.

Read the federal criminal complaint. I wonder what his immigration status is.

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Muslims should be placed in secured pet carriers before boarding the plane. This is stuff is insane.

Turkey is supposed to be one of the more moderate and progressive Islamic lands. We now know what this is worth. You have a man pushing fifty acting like an out of control thirteen year old. Also, why did Bawer Aksal think that claiming the molestation of a sleeping woman was consensual would be believable by anyone? Also, why did Aksal think that engaging in a sexual act in a public place like a jetliner was in the least bit appropriate? Islamic modesty seems to go just one way. Islam seems to be a breeding ground for misogyny.

Worry01 on August 23, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    Yes, Muslims should not be allowed on the plane with other religions or secular beliefs. I have never flown commercial airlines after 9/11. This is my boycott on the airlines.
    If they would offer “muslim free planes” I would fly commercial again.

    TinaR on August 24, 2012 at 9:43 am

    This man is not Turkish. He is a Kurdish descent. His name has nothing to do with Tutkish descent or region. He verbally attacked me on the Internet bc he was defending the PKK terrorism in Turkey

    Chica on August 24, 2012 at 11:50 pm

Charming guy… I mean I’ve heard of people wanting to get admitted to the legendary Mile High Club but what on earth could he have been thinking making a sexual advance on a woman he didn’t even know?

With Muslim passengers, you can never quite know what to expect. Like sexual assault by jihad.

Just more of things you wish you knew about Islam and hoped to never find out!

NormanF on August 23, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    Norman, I am a believer in getting to know something, even if it is ugly and horrible. What you do not know or understand is very much like a shark that is one hundred yards off the beach. You may get in for a swim, and paddle around without a problem. However, the very next you try to do the same thing, the shark will be waiting for you. I would rather have more knowledge rather than less in order to avoid such situations. Finally, learning new things or deepening one’s understanding of what one has previously learned keeps you alive and vital. Those who give up on or have never engaged in advanced learning miss much of the world, and lead only half a life.

    Worry01 on August 23, 2012 at 6:38 pm

      Worry,

      Islam is like the shark in Jaws. Now you see it, now you don’t.

      But its quite dangerous to the unwary.

      That woman can be thankful she wasn’t raped or killed! She was fortunate. The flight could well have ended on a tragic note.

      NormanF on August 23, 2012 at 6:52 pm

        Norman, I sent you a link on the Heathrow thread. I would be more than curious about your opinion of it, and whether or not it is relevant to the topic. Thank you for your past, present and future responses.

        Worry01 on August 23, 2012 at 6:56 pm

          Worry,

          I saw the piano composition. My hearing unfortunately is shot! Others may develop an appreciation for it.

          NormanF on August 23, 2012 at 7:11 pm

          Oh, I understand. It was called “Gloomy Sunday”, and was composed in Hungary in 1933 as Hitler was coming to power and the whole world was coming unglued. Gloomy Sunday had the reputation of inducing suicide. I thought it appropriate music to play at Heathrow and Gatwick as background music.

          I am sorry about your hearing.

          Worry01 on August 23, 2012 at 7:20 pm

DISGUSTING P E R V E R T S.

As goes... on August 23, 2012 at 5:59 pm

The federal complaint goes into graphic detail about what Bawer Aksal did to the victim.

I won’t repeat it on here to avoid giving sicko freaks and perverts unwarranted pleasure who come might come across this thread but I will confine myself to making one observation.

Since when it is a consensual act to invade someone’s private body parts without their knowledge? If he don’t know that’s breaking the law, he was either depraved or incredibly stupid.

Its safe to say however this case turns out, he won’t be flying the skies in this country again for the foreseeable future.

As for Islanmic modesty, well its just a myth. This is another example of how Muslim males can’t control their animal impulses around women. It has nothing to do with whatever country they happen to come from.

Its Islam! And this didn’t happen in Tahrir Square. It happened on a plane in flight over the continental United States from Arizona to New Jersey.

There are plenty of would be Aksals out there.

NormanF on August 23, 2012 at 6:29 pm

@Worry01 – the Turks are pigs. Doesn’t matter if they are progressive.

This incident does not surprise me in the least.

Road Warrior on August 23, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    Road Warrior, I was being sarcastic about the Turkish reputation for moderation. A good Muslim cannot be a moderate, since that would indicate hypocrisy or actual unbelief in the Islamic theological model. One cannot be the actual friend of an unbeliever, since they are a warning or caution from Allah. Only in cases of great distress or need may a Muslim even simulate good intentions towards a kafir. With outsiders, most engage in taqqiya or kitman when a relationship is needed with an unbeliver. It is akin to a John hiring a prostitute, even though in the unbeliever’s actual situation is unkown to them. As a prerogative of being a Muslim,this concession can be withdrawn as soon as the necessity is past. The former hotility or outright attacks resume as against the former infidel friend. It is as if the John has told the prostitute to leave(only the former friend is
    sitting in the client’s lap figuratively).

    Worry01 on August 23, 2012 at 7:16 pm

He’s not a Muslim he is Jewish !

Billy k on August 23, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    I think Mohammed worked for Mosad, and Allah was his control.

    Worry01 on August 23, 2012 at 8:01 pm

      Crack is good! LOoks like everyone is on it!

      Billy k on August 23, 2012 at 8:24 pm

“Guess the Religion”, eh?

Uhhh…. was he Buddhist, no doubt?

DS_ROCKS! on August 23, 2012 at 7:31 pm

No doubt a Wiccan… why we pander to these frauds and show them such respectful treatment is beyond me!

NormanF on August 23, 2012 at 7:58 pm

He could be an atheist or agnostic? You never, but I wouldn’t rule out muslim!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on August 23, 2012 at 10:25 pm

There used to be a practice called “Keelhauling” where an offender or criminal, whatever, was tied to a line and then hauled either under a ship from port to starboard side or down the length of the keel. Either method generally resulted in the death of the individual by drowning or by getting sliced to ribbons by the barnacles that attach themselves to the keel of the ship. Too bad we couldn’t bring back the practice and toss this animal out of the airliner and have him bounce along the runway behind the plane as it lands. Whatever is left of him can then be scrapped up, put in an envelope and sent to his family.

Naddy Bumpko on August 24, 2012 at 12:29 am

    Dear Mr. Bumpko: Doesn’t the Constitution ban cruel or unusual punishment?

    By the way: Non-Moslems occasionally try to get fresh with woman passengers on planes. It must have been terrifying for that poor woman to WAKE UP and find that man crawling all over her. UGH!!!

    Miranda Rose Smith on August 24, 2012 at 4:54 am

      That wasn’t “getting fresh” Miranda, it sounds more like rape.

      Mike in Dallas on August 24, 2012 at 12:34 pm

        That wasn’t “getting fresh” Miranda, it sounds more like rape.

        Mike in Dallas on August 24, 2012 at 12:34 pm

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        It may have been pretty close to attempted rape. I said it must have been terrifying. It was far worse than just sitting, on a plane, next to a man with wandering hand trouble.

        Miranda Rose Smith on August 26, 2012 at 7:09 am

      Millions of people fly in this country every day without incident. Western men are capable of behaving themselves around women no matter how they choose to dress. That’s one side of the picture.

      Here’s the other side: ask yourself why Muslim men can’t maintain self-control besides an uncovered woman on a a five hour cross-country flight.

      This isn’t the only thing they do as “practice” for some future terrorist atrocity. Maybe this was some sort of test, who knows.

      And as long as we allow them to fly with us, incidents of this sort and others on our planes in the name of jihad against us are guaranteed to happen in the future.

      NormanF on August 24, 2012 at 3:20 pm

We’ll never be like Muslim savages.

That said, a strange man who needed to put his fingers in a strange woman’s private body parts and on her breasts without her permission is need of serious help.

This would probably qualify as first degree rape in some jurisdictions since its irrelevant what was used to penetrate the vagina and anus. All that matters is intention and the victim was not in a position to give consent to any sexual activity that was initiated.

Hopefully this pervert is going to go away for a long time and no one will miss him!

And again, lets not have Jeff Jacoby lecture us again how modest Muslims are compared to the followers of other religions. Its getting old!

NormanF on August 24, 2012 at 1:11 am

    Islam only truly imposes its modesty requirements on women. One gender gets to dress more or less normally in public, while the other one must wear a garbage bag with eye slits. The woman is in essentially a portable prison or pet carrier.

    Worry01 on August 24, 2012 at 1:25 am

During travel in 71, my fiancé was frequently groped by helpful Turks. Even in my presence. Nothing new or unexpected in this story.

Jimbo on August 24, 2012 at 1:22 am

Norman, the tough thing is that the things we know about Muslims are so horribly unbelievable that if we tried saying that to a normal person who knew nothing about any of this, s/he would think we were paranoid.

Like Worry, I too believe in knowing that worst that there is to know about people. Problem is that it’s next to impossible to convince others of it, and in the event that something like it does happen, it is impossible to make the case that that is true about the Muslim population at random. End result is that too many tragedies that might have been preventable happen to be not preventable.

Worry, I wouldn’t bother about their nationalities – whether they are Turkish, Arab, Somali, Paki, Afghan, Iranian, Bangladeshi, Indian Muslim, Malay, Indonesian or whatever, I’d trust them as far as I can throw them. And needless to say, I’m not Olympic material.

Infidel on August 24, 2012 at 3:57 am

I tried to find out his address because I lived the first 28 years of my life in North Bergen, bleah! Interestingly, there is a “Jonathan” Aksal also 48 years old.

Italkit on August 24, 2012 at 4:30 am

    There’s no info on any of the free pages except to list several close by towns as the residence for “Jonathan” and one Hasan also 48 yrs. old.I guess they could be triplets and a cousin born and named the same year.

    Italkit on August 24, 2012 at 8:19 am

It’s possible that it really was consensual and then the girl changed her mind. I mean, why didn’t she wake up before she did?

sabril on August 24, 2012 at 4:54 am

A woman does have the right to change her and withdraw consent. And the man who doesn’t listen, is in a world of hurt.

NormanF on August 24, 2012 at 6:26 am

I mean change her mind.

NormanF on August 24, 2012 at 6:26 am

Right. Muslims are perverts. None of those Catholic priests who molested boys were perverts were they? At least this guy doesn’t have a Church hierarchy covering up for his crimes. Perversion spans all cultures and all religions. Can you name me any religion that never had any perverts? I didn’t think so.

Davidus Romanus on August 24, 2012 at 9:54 am

Oh by the way, last time I checked, North Bergen was in New Jersey. Does that mean New Jerseyans are all perverts?

Davidus Romanus on August 24, 2012 at 9:56 am

We can only hope that some lib judge doesn’t lower the sexual molestation charges down to a misdemeanor and this pervert will have to register as a sexual offender for life.

Rochelle on August 24, 2012 at 10:05 am

There was NO way the man could have understood that consent wasn’t freely given:

- No brother or father assaulted him to get him to leave her alone
- She didn’t refuse
- She wasn’t covered head to toe

So, OBVIOUSLY, she asked for it.

/end sarc

LindaF on August 24, 2012 at 10:59 am

Nine people were wounded and two people were killed outside the Empire State Building in Midtown Manhattan Friday after a disgruntled women’s accessories designer named Jeffrey Johnson shot his 41 year-old former boss. The two dead include the gunman, who was shot and killed by police near the tourist entrance of the landmark skyscraper.

mmm guess his religion?!?

Jew on August 24, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    Jew, did you see his picture? More likely his initials, JJ, stand for Jamal Jihadi. The company where he worked with Steve Ercolino was Hazan Imports. So that doesn’t say anything about Ercolino who was probably the token infidel but it might say volumes about JJ. I posted a couple of links on the Spam thread. There’s some very “provocative” stuff in his background, including his “hobby” of bird watching. Nice legitimate reason to walk around with telephoto lenses on your cameras.

    Italkit on August 26, 2012 at 5:48 pm

Good thing the jet didn’t land in Saudi Arabia. That poor woman would have been stoned to death for being a whore.

Once in a while on August 24, 2012 at 1:07 pm

He wasn’t doing anything wrong. Sexual humiliation of the infidels is a legitimate form of jihad: http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/02/sexual-jihad-demoralising-and.html

Najis Kuffar on August 24, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    Yup – same reason they rape and mutilate their victims. None of this is new. And cuz she was “uncovered meat” it was an open invitation to show her the manifest superiority of Islam. They don’t care about being caught. They care about being victorious and this is the sacrifice that Islamic terrorists make to propagate Islam. In this case, the man’s fingers were mightier than the sword.

    NormanF on August 24, 2012 at 2:27 pm

“A woman does have the right to change her [mind] and withdraw consent.”

Agreed. Is that what happened here?

sabril on August 24, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    DID YOU by any chance read the STATEMENT of the EYEWITNESS???

    The witness who saw that the VICTIM was asleep and the creep was “messing” with her while she was asleep…. just seconds before the victim woke up.

    Alabama Pride on August 24, 2012 at 2:56 pm

No but even if that was case, the moment she withdrew consent, he had a legal duty to stop and then it wasn’t consensual – when he still proceeded at that point and then it became sexual assault.

No doubt his lawyers will blame his inability to control his urges on the way she dressed and try to blame her as a slut.

I don’t see that working here since its not a typical he said/she said rape case story. There are witnesses and it just isn’t good for him.

I expect that he will be convicted and have to register for life as a sex offender if he gets out of prison. And the best part is there are a only limited number of places he can live in this country with that kind of designation.

Serves him right!

NormanF on August 24, 2012 at 2:47 pm

It’s the womans fault! if she had been wearing a Burqua, Like all women should, the site of her skin would not have aroused him.
put her in jail. (sarcasm) (for the sarcastic impaired crowd)

sal on August 24, 2012 at 6:03 pm

So this I’m guessing MUSLIM dirtbag thought that groping a sleeping woman was consensual. What clued the dummy in on that fact when she woke up and told the creep to get off her or the other passenger’s eyewitness account. We all now how these barbarians treat their women and they’re covered up in sheets. I guess that it is too tempting for this rat bastard to see
a woman dressed in shorts and a top. I just hope that the court throws the book at this perverted maggot.

Ken b on August 24, 2012 at 10:33 pm

this is just disgusting!

Dave on August 25, 2012 at 2:56 am

The problem is we keep thinking Muslims are people when their religion makes them create an animalistic, violent, degrading, disrespectful culture and society where they really are animals. These dogs need to be checked in the baggage compartment with the other animals. However, keep them on cargo flights only. We shouldn,t degrade our own American pets with these wild animals. My thoughts and prayers are with the American woman.

andrea405 on August 25, 2012 at 10:34 pm

That’s all well and fine, but where are her four witnesses?

/endkoran

Piss be upon him on August 26, 2012 at 2:44 am

As shocking and abhorrent as this is… I know for certain that the Muslim religion (nor any other religion for that matter) has anything to do with a sexual predator’s behavior. There are sexual predators in every corner of the world, native to their respective lands, cultures and religious beliefs. As to the aggressor’s naturalization status…. there too, there a legal and naturally born U.S. “citizens” who perpetrate unbelievably brutal and far more violent crimes every day in every state in the country.
I suggest you turn off the FOX News and get out a little.

JCB on September 6, 2012 at 2:39 pm

Blegh

Ruh on December 2, 2012 at 8:07 pm

OMG, GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT. HE IS NOT TURKISH. AND THERE IS NO NAME AS BAWEL IN ANY TURKISH HERITAGE. TYPICAL STEREOTYPING.

John on February 2, 2013 at 6:29 pm

A lot of unbridled racism here, starting with Debbie’s original question about Aksal’s religion. One person doing something reprehensible should not reflect on an entire religion or race. The paranoia expressed here reminds me of how White people used to (and some still do) fear African American being in the vicinity of White women.

Debbie, here are some questions for you: “Brutal Aryan Brotherhood Murders: Guess Race and Religion”; Klan and Neo Nazi Violence since 2010: Guess Race and Religion.” Just google the first part of each question to get examples of the glories of your race and religion.

No race and religion is blameless and the White race and Christian religion have probably done as much or more violence than others.

Doc Ray on August 6, 2013 at 8:54 am

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