August 28, 2012, - 4:28 pm

Obama’s/McCain’s/Hannity’s Libyan “Democrats” Destroy Mosque b/c Not Extremist Enough

By Debbie Schlussel

Hey, it’s the new Libyan Arab Spring “Democrats” that Sean Hannity and John McCain supported (Hannity was for them before he was against them, a la John Kerry–and now pretends he was against them, but click on the link and you’ll see the video where he attacked Obama for not supporting the Libyan rebels) and urged Barack Obama to arm and support (which he did). And look how tolerant they are of their fellow Muslims–same as it ever was in the Islamic world. Police stood by and allowed it to happen. As I’ve noted before on this site, different Muslim sects don’t recognize each other as being true Muslims. That’s especially true of most Muslims regarding Sufi Islam, which they regard as apostasy. (Sufis can be either Sunni or Shi’ite, but many Sunnis and Shi’ites reject them.)

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Al-Sha’ab Mosque: How Muslims Treat Fellow Muslims

Also, it’s incredible that our own U.S. military has ruined the careers of several soldiers who volunteered to serve because they made the mistake of accidentally burning some korans in Afghanistan. Meanwhile, how many korans were destroyed in the Al-Sha’ab mosque and fellow Muslims don’t give a crap because they can’t blame it on America (or the Jews)?

Armed men have bulldozed a mosque containing Sufi Muslim graves in the centre of the capital, Tripoli, in broad daylight, in what appeared to be Libya’s most blatant sectarian attack since the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi. . . .


It was the second razing of a Sufi site in two days. Ultra-conservative Islamists wrecked Sufi shrines with bombs and another bulldozer and set fire to a mosque library in the city of Zlitan early on Friday, an official said.

Libya’s rulers have struggled to control armed groups competing for power a year after Gaddafi’s fall. . . .

“What is truly regrettable and suspicious is that some of those who took part in these destructive activities are supposed to be of the security forces and from the revolutionaries,” [president of Libya's newly elected National Congress, Mohamed] Al-Magariaf told reporters.

He did not elaborate on how security forces took part.

A Reuters reporter witnessed the bulldozer level the Sha’ab mosque as police surrounded the site and prevented people from approaching. They did not stop the demolition.

Inside the mosque, empty graves lay gaping in the rubble.

“A large number of armed militias carrying medium and heavy weapons arrived at the al-Sha’ab mosque with the intention to destroy the mosque because of their belief that the graves are anti-Islamic,” said one official who declined to be named.

He told Reuters that authorities tried to stop them but, after a small clash, decided to seal off the area while the demolition took place to prevent any violence spreading. . . .

A man who appeared to be overseeing the demolition told Reuters the interior ministry had authorised the operation after discovering people had been worshipping the graves and practicing “black magic”. . . . Salafis have formed a number of armed brigades in Libya. They reject as idolatrous many Sufi devotions, which include dancing and the building of shrines to venerated figures. . . .

The Sha’ab mosque housed close to 50 Sufi graves inside and, outside, the tombs of Libyan Sufi scholar Abdullah al-Sha’ab and a martyr who fought Spanish colonialists.

Remember, this is how Muslims treat each other when they are in control. Think they’ll treat you any better? Dream on.

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25 Responses

I don’t know about you Debbie, but when I first heard about this I thought “Let’s sit back and enjoy the entertainment”.

IAM: Believe me, I ain’t sheddin’ no tears over this (except crocodile ones). It’s like the HAMAS-Fatah, Sunni-Shi’ite, and Assad-Syrian Rebel wars. I wish they could go on forever and that both sides would lose. But it is important to point out, yet again, how absurd it was for us to back the Libyan rebels and do away with Qaddafi, who while crazy, was a force of stability who had an agreement with us that he honored regarding WMD/nukes. And it is always important to point out how these Muslims never get along with each other and that they will only treat us worse than they treat their fellow co-religionists. DS

I_AM_ME on August 28, 2012 at 4:52 pm

Yup… a “moderate” Muslim is a contradiction in terms.

And mysticism has no place in Islam today.

But what they do to each other, they do to the infidels. We’re told that Islam is Dar al Islam – the House Of Brotherhood. That’s far from the truth as we see in Libya and other places around the Muslim World.

Any one who expects Muslims to like us is dreaming, when they don’t even like other! Keep that in the mind the next time you hear taqiyyah BS from Muslims that they have resolved all their conflicts.

Let Libya also be a lesson about the kind of “democracy” the Arab Spring ushered in.

NormanF on August 28, 2012 at 4:55 pm

We must be tolerant and supportive of our allies in Libya.

Perhaps we should use Afghanistan as an example. Just because our peace partners there beheaded 10 people yesterday, does not mean they are not strong advocates for peace and tranquility.

Little Al on August 28, 2012 at 5:04 pm

Love seeing them destroy each other

As goes... on August 28, 2012 at 6:05 pm

Yuck. I am disgusted with these vermin. They are such a danger and a sick mutation yet too many still buy that ROP bullsh.

It’s still hot and still summer and I see the dumb women dressed for winter. What a wasted life.

I’m wondering what will happen in Syria. The dopes are all upset and say someone must step in. I know when we see what they do to each other and children it can hard to see (Megyn Kelly even cried on air) but the bottom line must be remembered. DS’ last line in this column.

Skunky on August 28, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    Yeah Skunky I remember when Megyn Kelly cried about that on the air. I was saying to myself what a moronette.

    Ken b on August 29, 2012 at 11:23 am

Unfortunately our PC dumb asses are our greatest obstacle to real peace.

samurai on August 28, 2012 at 8:34 pm

Romney supported the Libyan action as well: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/03/romney-supports-military-action-in-libya-criticizes-president-for-decision-making/

SS: Absolutely he did (as did Newt Gingrich, etc.). Glad you pointed that out. The only Prez candidate I saw who opposed it (other than nutty Ron Paul) was Michele Bachmann. DS

Stephen Schochet on August 28, 2012 at 8:38 pm

“Also, it’s incredible that our own U.S. military has ruined the careers of several soldiers who volunteered to serve because they made the mistake of accidentally burning some korans in Afghanistan. Meanwhile, how many korans were destroyed in the Al-Sha’ab mosque and fellow Muslims don’t give a crap because they can’t blame it on America (or the Jews)?”

Excellent point, Debbie.

DS_ROCKS! on August 28, 2012 at 8:41 pm

I notice that Islam seems to excel in destroying history. I suppose it is “Islamophobic” to notice the pattern in other places they get control of. They are even discussing desroying the paramids in Egypt. (They are just waiting to secure their control for now; it will come up again). I’m sure these are all just ‘Isolated incidences”. I think all those Islamic ass kissers might contimplate what would happen to Jerusalum and the holy lands if they get control of it and replace Isreal there.

jerry doegen on August 28, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    Jerry, it is a good observation. Islam considers all the occurred before it to be either unimportant or evil. It is totalitarian in its outlook and practice.

    Worry01 on August 28, 2012 at 10:49 pm

Yes, Laurie, J, I was.

Little Al on August 28, 2012 at 10:27 pm

Debbie even though he’s nutty I think Ron Paul was in a way the most competent candidate. Romney is more of a consensus candidate who pleases no one. RP isn’t pro Israel but unlike BHO he also isn’t pro Muslim Brotherhood. Also I’m currently trying to set up a shidduch date, the guy says he’ll call the girl (after seeing her fb pictures) and then he doesn’t call. Why do they do that?

A1: Actually, Ron Paul is VERY pro-Muslim Brotherhood. He supports HAMAS and voted to continue to send them aid. He’s very anti-Israel. He’s not honest or consistent (or competent). DS

A1 on August 29, 2012 at 1:36 am

Debbie, do you have any info on your statement that RP supports muslims? I know he at some point was the only vote against usa helping Israel or something like that.

max on August 29, 2012 at 2:04 am

Pawn Vannity, Michelle Barfkin, Fig Newton, Obamny et al etc. “Gag me with a spoon!”
What percentage of Vannity’s take for “warriors” actually goes to the “warriors”?

Isn’t one of Obamny’s guys leading the way in Florida to redistrict Con. A. West’s district out/off the congressional map?

As far as the bulldozing goes; the more thing’s change, the more things stay the same. Just more bullshiite.

Sick_Boy on August 29, 2012 at 9:35 am

I was no fan of Moammar Gaddafi, but the way he was treated by the United States in the end was deplorable. The man had actually given up his weapons of mass destruction and agreed to keep his nose out of trouble. For the most part, Moammar Gaddafi did this. It was one of the few legitimate accomplishments of the Bush Administration. Also, it set up a template for persuading other leaders of terror states that there was a non-suicidal way to get out of the terror business and remain in power. President Barack Obama undermined Moammar Gaddafi and abandoned him. This will be long remembered by other countries throughout the world. A dictator might as well oppose all reforms and fight to the bitter end, since any moderation or decency on their part will go unnoticed or unrewarded by the Americans. Mr. Obama has taught dictatorial regimes throughout the world that the United States cannot be trusted, and are wholly unreliable once the heat is on.

Worry01 on August 29, 2012 at 9:45 am

This incident with Libya just highlights the further disingenuness of dopes like Sean Hannity and John McCain. I remember when both of these idiots beat the Odummer Administration up verbally to support the knuckleheaded rebels against Gaddafi. Being that Vannity in particular has no good principles it is no surprise that he tapdanced and did his John Kerry for it before I was against it routine. Like you said Debbie I could give a rat’s ass about this barbarians. Let them do themselves in and save us the trouble.

Ken b on August 29, 2012 at 11:20 am

I agree w/ I_AM_ME and Debbie regarding these Alien vs Predator conflicts (Debbie, please tell us you’ve added these to the file ;)) Just wish all Muslims would be sucked into them, and take forever to get done.

Also, the stuff about Sufi mysticism – all that is just a shroud – in a manner of speaking – to veil their real face. Note that the Chechen jihadis in Russia, the Kashmir Jihadis in India and the Turkic Jihadis in the former Soviet Central Asiatic Republics as well as China’s Xinxiang province – all of them happen to be Sufis. Numerically, Sufis are just 2% of the world’s Muslim population, so frauds like Stephen Schwartz who use them as an example of what Muslims can be, are practicing their own taquiyya.

If we could watch Muslims in Libya, Egypt, Syria, Yemen et al live on weekends like we could Baghdad during the early days after Saddam’s fall, trust me, it would be a lot more entertaining than 90% of the movies that come out of Hollywood today. Although I guess popcorn isn’t a staple food that can replace our regular meals.

Infidel on August 29, 2012 at 2:30 pm

Im a supporter of Col Gaddafi and Saddam too; thank you America for replacing those men who made all poeple equal in their society and repsected women and children with extremists.

Uncivilised barbarians need to be ruled by dictators…

PP on August 29, 2012 at 6:01 pm

I don’t know if Hannity is duped or if he thinks about these things. But the GOP elitiists, leadership, whatever you want to call them, they are for the same policy in the Mid-East as Obama. I mean they are probably not as radical, they probably wouldn’t invite terrorists to the White House, but it is the same direction. I sometimes think Obama is evil while Romney and company are just stupid. It is like man-made global warming I get the idea that the Dems are using it for power while the GOP leaders like Gingrich and Romney actually believe in it. But in the end their motivation is unimportant; what matters IMO is that conservative voters need to admit, because I think deep down they know it, is that our problems are Beltway problems, not just Obama problems, that Obama is a mere symptom of this elitist, progressive disease. And that if people want, justifiably IMO, Obama out, then they should be equally IMO motivated to change the GOP leadership that aids and abets him. And one reason I am not voting for Romney is that IMO he will as head of the party funnel rescources and campaign for moderates in GOP primaries which is were IMO real change begins. This Akin affair and how Romney and the RNC are handling it is a perfect IMO example of what I am talking about Yes, I want Obama out too! No I would never vote for him, I would hope no one in a free country would. No I am not a Ron Paul or a Gary Johnson supporter, not a libertarian, my candidates are people like Bachmann and Akin. But I think far more more important than getting Obama out is getting Conservative leadership in Congress, and Romney IMO is a big step backward in that regard.

Stephen Schochet on August 29, 2012 at 6:05 pm

I’m also going to say the task that faces us IMO needs bigger action; it cannot be done gradually. Changing Obama for a RINO is cosmetic at best; Real change is much harder job. I mean right now, in the USA, Nancy Pelosi has a way better chance has a way better chance of being Speaker than Bachmann and that is because of the RINOs in Congress not the liberals. The RINOs would not vote for her. And if she, or somebody like-minded was Speaker Obama’s BS would likely be defunded or voted down. The Tea Party must try IMO to make the 2014 GOP primaries national in scope rather than liberal. IMO if we were to retire John Boehner he would likely be replaced as Speaker by Eric Cantor and to me that is groundhog day. Every time we send conservative freshmen up there there is a two year attempt both by the GOP leadership to co-opt them. I would argue that Alan West, who voted for the Continuing Resolution, to raise the debt ceiling and now has “Repeal and Replace” on his web page is useless to conservative cause; he has IMO been assimilated into the RINO borg. Even if people disagree about West what I am saying to really have a chance at an effective change you have to remove the entire GOP leadership and all their committee heads in one fell swoop. A change so big that a Bachmann type, it doesn’t have to be her specifically, but someone like minded becomes Speaker. IMO this picking off the RINOs piece meal is not going to work. Now I know this is a daunting task but if people want real change that’s IMO at the very least what it is going to take.

Stephen Schochet on August 29, 2012 at 6:22 pm

PP, I wasn’t a supporter of either Saddam or Gadaffi, but both of them were better than those who ultimately succeeded them. In Gadaffi’s case, he actually cleaned up his act and tried being on the good side of the US. W/ fatal consequences.

Well, I’m hoping that Assad will last long, so that more Sunnis from allah-knows-where are sucked into this Syrian war, and get killed. The one reason Syria is totally different from Egypt or Libya is that this isn’t a mere uprising against a dictator: it’s a thinly disguised attempt by Sunnis to seize power from the non Sunni Baath coalition of Alawites, Druze, Christians and others. As far as the non-Alawite part of this coalition goes, this is not out of any love for the Assads, but a recognition that if this regime falls, those groups will be on their hit list.

Already, Christians have fled other cities like Aleppo and are fleeing into Lebanon: if the Sunnis were to actually capture power in Damascus, all the Alawites and Druze would be massacred. That’s why they are so fiercely defending against this enemy, unlike in Libya, where both pro and anti Gadaffi had the same religious beliefs and either side could switch to the other. Not so in this case.

And much as I loathe Iran and Hizbullah, I do admire what they’ve been doing here – helping the Assads drag on the fight. When two top Syrian army chiefs got assassinated last month, Iran pulled off the assassination of Prince Bandar and that too, in Saudi intel hq in Riyadh – who had just been promoted for getting this done. The Russian & Chinese support to that regime too has helped elongate things. OTOH, you have fighters from other countries show up in Syria on the Sunni side, making them good fodder for the Syrian army. The UN can try intervening all they like, but they’re totally clueless about the Shia-Sunni underpinnings of this war.

So as Debbie once said about Libya, in this case too, let allah sort it out.

Infidel on August 29, 2012 at 10:17 pm

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