September 27, 2012, - 4:58 pm

FOX News Uses Netanyahu Hitler Salute Pic – PAWNN (Prince Al-Waleed News Network) @ Work; UPDATE: Schlussel Gets Results!

By Debbie Schlussel

**** UPDATE. 09/28/12: After Politico links to Schlussel post on FOX News Netanyahu Hitler salute pic, FOX News finally changes photo (without correction notation or apology). We Get Results! ****

Many readers have sent me links to Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin “Bibi” Netanyahu’s speech, today, at the United Nations–all of them with approving “hurrahs” and “attaboys.” But, per usual, Netanyahu talks a good game, then goes back to Israel and does nothing but kick more Jews out of their homes in “settlements.” Talk is cheap. And Netanyahu typically speaks loudly and carries a soggy matzoh ball (instead of the proverbial big stick). He has never and will never do anything on Iran, with or without U.S. help (which was nowhere to be seen under eight years of Bush, not just four years of Obama). While it is true that fewer Israelis were murdered under Netanyahu than under other capitulator Israeli Prime Ministers, he’s not exactly the far right-wing Jewish militant he’s made out to be. He’s a compromiser extraordinaire and toward the center-left side of the center-right Likud Coalition. That said, look, below, at what FOX News chose as its photo for the story on the Netanyahu speech. That’s right–a dictatorial Hitler salute.

Yet, Matt Drudge and most of the right-wing echo chamber online are only faulting AP and Reuters for the use of this same, exact photo. Um, what about FOX News a/k/a PAWNN (the Prince Al-Waleed News Network)? Does it always get a free pass from real journalism because it pretends to be “conservative?” Only hypocrites have that attitude. And, sadly, there are a ton of ‘em on the right and in the “pro-Israel” crowd blindly mesmerized by FOX News.


“Fair and balanced”? Only if you’re judging by Al-Jazeera and Al-Arabiya “standards.”

If you’re going to give FOX News a pass on the same egregious behavior that you call out AP for, why even have FOX News? It’s not the alternative. It’s just more of the same old crap.

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I’m not a fan of Netanyahu and talk is cheap.

That said, the world’s hatred of Jews always sinks to new lows.

Not that I expected any great improvement this Jewish New Year in their attitude towards the Jews and Israel.

One photo is worth a thousand words.

NormanF on September 27, 2012 at 5:05 pm

Has anyone ever seen Al-Waleed and Ringo Starr in the same room?

DS_ROCKS! on September 27, 2012 at 5:27 pm

No Muslim with young children would allow a person with Muhammad’s reputation to sleep one night at their home. The “Blood Libel” was once used as an excuse to murder Jews now it has been turned into The “Muhammad Libel”, but the hatred stays the same.

chowching on September 27, 2012 at 5:29 pm

Oh Puhleeeeeeeeeze! That’s not a NAZI salute. A NAZI salute is straight in front with eyes front. You don’t salute looking off to the side with you mouth running. It’s a sign of respect and submission. I’m not a Bibi fan either, but get serious. Now no one can raise their arm to point without it being a NAZI salute? Israelis like other Mediterranean types gesticulate when we speak. I didn’t listen to the speech but I’m guessing that he was indicating that “on this side…” or something similar.

Italkit on September 27, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    I agree with you!

    The Nazi salute is particular to the Arabs. Making a gesture with one’s arms – that is not ideological. People make a point with body language every day.

    I don’t care how people interpret the Prime Minister’s gestures. I leave that up for those who have sick minds. Let them think what they want.

    That said, tough rhetoric is not going to get Iran to change its direction. Like I’ve observed in the past, its not a question of Israel’s means, its a question of Jewish courage.

    NormanF on September 27, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    Your point is well taken. But you gotta admit, this photo stirs a lot of animus. No, it’s not precisely a Nazi salute, but that’s what everyone will THINK when they see it.

    Mary on October 3, 2012 at 2:14 am

Chowching,

A Jew was murdered was last week in Israel by Islamic terrorists over the “100 Jews” financed the “Innocence Of Muslims” anti-Islam trailer blood libel. The blood libel has always led to dead Jews!

Not a single Muslim was killed by an infidel because YouTube ridiculed their “prophet.”

NormanF on September 27, 2012 at 5:36 pm

Yes, it would have been nice if they had shown him with the centrifuge diagram.

Little Al on September 27, 2012 at 5:38 pm

And it would be good if contributors could focus on the essence of the subject, and not get distracted by irrelevancies.

Little Al on September 27, 2012 at 5:39 pm

And to belabor what should be obvious to a learned Mensa contributor, the point isn’t the arcane knowledge of Israeli gestures, it is what a gesture like that will mean to most of Fox’s viewers, and the clearly deliberate choice to use a picture like this instead of one with the centrifuge diagram. Even if viewers don’t think of Hitler, they will think, at least for the most part, that Netanyahu is dogmatic and obstinate.

Little Al on September 27, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    LA, I agree and your last sentence is why I brought in the regional reference. Maybe I’m particularly sensitive because when I went back to the US for a spell in 1994, I was almost charged by a co-worker who thought my gestures were “threatening.” During the time I was away. “personal space” had become an issue and people were very sensitive to any motion of the arms and hands. It’s really out of control in some places and I guess my idea was to educate people so they could see we weren’t just making apologies for Bibi’s politics. I see no reason for you to be offended by the comment engendered by my “dirty lens.”

    Italkit on September 28, 2012 at 4:17 am

      OK

      Little Al on September 28, 2012 at 2:01 pm

Like Debbie said, Netanyahu is far from being an extreme right-wing Jewish militant.

His intention is to survive in office and as to what he intends to do about Iran that remains to be seen.

My guess is we will see no Israeli strike on Iran this year.

NormanF on September 27, 2012 at 5:53 pm

And it puts a compromiser like Netanyahu in a difficult position, when he has to deal with the US Foreign Policy apparatus, which is anti-Israel, pro-Islamic Brotherhood (to say the least), and where there is little Jewish pressure on Obama and his cohorts, and with evangelicals, pro-Israel in the abstract, getting confounded by Fox — perhaps that is the point of the unflattering pose shown for Netanyahu.

Little Al on September 27, 2012 at 5:57 pm

Well, they’d do anything to put the content of his speech in the background so as to dissipate the points raised into oblivion and imply dictatorial/negative/apartheid image of Israel.

jakob on September 27, 2012 at 6:04 pm

“Talk is cheap. And Netanyahu typically speaks loudly and carries a soggy matzoh ball”

Wow.

I_AM_ME on September 27, 2012 at 6:35 pm

It is just another one of the unsubtle slights that that many in the media delight in using against people they do not like. That is to be expected of anti-Semitic leftists. What offends far more is that a supposedly more conservaive news network without any professed anti-Israel bias uses the same still photo that others have used to demean Prime Minister Netanyahu and Israel. Fox News ever more reflects News Corporation’s increased ownership by Islamic interests.

Worry on September 27, 2012 at 8:05 pm

And yet it will be heaps of so-called Conservatives who still love PAWNN news and watches it’s crappy-ass shows.

That’s why such a stinker as that 5pm show is a hit. That show should have died on the vine but lots of dopey Conservatives prop it up.

The only thing I like about it is that it makes me LOLOL every time Rush Limbaugh calls Andrea Tantaros “Angela Tarantula”…for some reason it cracks me up wickedly….

Skunky on September 27, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    @Skuzzy,

    Sounds like you are easily amused – surely the sign of a towering intellect.

    Statusmonkey on September 27, 2012 at 11:45 pm

      What would you know about towering intellects, Muslim Monkey?

      skzion on September 28, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    Skunky, it is a left over program stocked with second tier contributors. I do not think even Newt Gingrich would be caught dead on it.

    Worry01 on September 28, 2012 at 2:41 am

      That’s right, Worry. The show is for utter morons. Even if I still watched PAWNN I would not watch it.

      Skunky on September 28, 2012 at 9:06 am

Whenever I read of “red lines” (a peculiarly popular Israeli usage), I snort and roll my eyes.

skzion on September 27, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    @Gay Obama,

    LOL, but that’s your reaction to anything that makes sense.

    Statusmonkey on September 27, 2012 at 11:43 pm

      Muslim Monkey sez:

      “@Gay Obama,

      LOL, but that’s your reaction to anything that makes sense.”

      Oh touche. Obviously, MM doesn’t know that the peculiarly Israeli talk of so-called “red lines” is a joke to anyone who actually knows something about Israeli politics, as such talk is mere bluster, typically followed by the Israeli bombing of empty fields. Thus, Bibi’s lectures to Hussein about “red lines” are both laughable and contemptible.

      Muslim Monkey shows, yet again, that he is an ignoramus.

      skzion on September 28, 2012 at 2:43 pm

        Skzion, don’t waste your time reading or replying to his retarded drivel. It is not worth it because he is insane and insanely boring. Anyone who reads his narcoleptic blather knows he makes zero sense and you wisely laser-pointed what a fraud he is because he is insanely jealous and angry with us and that *ALWAYS* trumps his supposed ideology. He’s a sad wanker.

        He also reads EVERY WORD we write. LOL. That shows what a nutter he is. I never read his posts and it’s so soooooo easy to ignore not because he’s a boring bastard (and he is!) but because he starts his boring posts so obviously. He’s such a help…heh, heh, heh.

        He’s too gone to realize with every stalking post of his he advertises freely what an unstable and dumb mess he is. It cracks me up and I don’t even read a word of his ZZZZZZZZ-inducing crap.

        Just ignore his sad ass as I do. He’s a dopey loon. That’s why I don’t care what he thinks of me and that is why opinion means s*** to me. You don’t need to respond to the loon. Nobody cares what he says…not even BOB DOLE.

        Skunky on September 28, 2012 at 9:51 pm

          Skunky, it is like having someone who has tertiary syphilis rant and rave at you. There is no point to feeding the delirium.

          Worry01 on September 29, 2012 at 5:56 am

          Skunky, as I said in a later column (I’m catching up), if Muslim Monkey were a mere troll, I’d agree with you, but as his idiotic attacks show him to be a bully, I now think he should be confronted rather than ignored. Certainty I will not spend much time on it.

          It really pisses me off that this scum attacks those who defend this site and oppose Islam.

          skzion on September 30, 2012 at 1:15 pm

I’m not no fan and/or supporter of Mr. Netanyahu myself, I to think the guy has some baggage on him and is kinda corrupt and DS explained out in this article. I’m really not that surprised with the photo that Fox News put out, because about 20% of the companies stock is owned by the arabs, ie, a muslim prince in Saudi Arabia.

But for the entire right wing establishment in this country to only fault AP and Reuters is no different than the left wing establishment who says nothing to very little about Obama’s flaws, policies, etc.

PS, Debbie, what’d did you think of Mr. Netanyahu’s speech earlier on today at the UN, some conservatives say that his speech was patriotic, etc. I think it sounded pretty good, but I want your views DS on the PM’s speech earlier on today?

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on September 27, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    Kinda corrupt? Bwahahahahha! Although in comparison to Barak and some others, he’s not so bad but Sean, he’s a politician. Calling him corrupt is a redundancy. ;D

    Italkit on September 28, 2012 at 4:19 am

FOX News has never been pro-Israel – except perhaps at a superficial rhetorical level.
I made a video on this a few years ago –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jWWf_gVSKw

Nigel on September 27, 2012 at 10:26 pm

Another excellent post, Debbie.

However, there are two steps beng taken to correct the record on the right’s intellectual dishonesty of giving Fox News a pass. The first is this present post; the second is Politico writing about the Netanyahu photo, which includes an update that gives a link to DS’s photo of the Fox News website committing this offense from this post.

http://tinyurl.com/95eefft

I hope that this won’t stop here, but I fear that it will.

JeffE on September 27, 2012 at 10:46 pm

Update:

The Fox News link now no longer shows the offending Netanyahu photo, replaces it with another photo–thanks to this post by Debbie.

DGR (Debbie gets results).

However, no correction or apology from Fox News.

JeffE on September 27, 2012 at 11:44 pm

JeffE, the photo is not offensive, it’s the SPIN these so called journalists have put on it that is.

Italkit on September 28, 2012 at 4:21 am

    Italkit,

    When I said that the photo was offensive. I didn’t mean that Netanyahu did anything wrong. What I meant was that it was the media photographing him at that moment and then portraying him as giving the Nazi salute that is what is offensive. Concerning what his intent was, I agree with NormanF on September 27, 2012 at 5:42 pm. Therefore, there is really no disagreement between us.

    JeffE on September 28, 2012 at 7:15 pm

      There’s nothing wrong with the photograph. We are actually agreeing if planning the photo, which is pretty hard to do, trust me, having been an event photographer at times, and then captioning it as it was can be called spin. These photos are not planned. When you’re there clicking away with an automatic camera, you are not even “seeing” what you’re capturing. You’re just focusing (yaa, bad pun) on the angles. You go back with the film or memory card and tons of shots and hope you have something usable when they are developed/downloaded.

      Italkit on September 29, 2012 at 12:53 pm

Off-Topic, but I wish all the observant Jews on this website a happy, healthy, kosher Succot.

Miranda Rose Smith on September 28, 2012 at 5:28 am

What does that photo tell you about media bias against Israel?

There is NO Santa Claus on September 28, 2012 at 8:04 am

    That’s EXACTLY the issue Santa. It’s the image and meme they WANT projected…not the actual facts. Spot on.

    Skunky on September 28, 2012 at 10:58 am

Netanyahu as Debbie implies, is an utter fraud. Masquerading under a right wing, nationalist banner he is no better then his predecessors who at least were honest about their policies. He is a member of the Israeli power structure, like the power structure in this country,Democrats and Republicans alike, whose only interest is self interest and who don’t give a damn about anything else.

Jerry G on September 28, 2012 at 8:47 am

Thanks, Debbie, for reminding Americans that Bibi talks the talk of the Right, but walks the walk of the Left. I know he is corrupt, if less so than most Israeli politicians. But there is one up-and-coming politician in Israel who is free of corruption, a genuine idealogue with a great plan to realize Israel’s potential and secure its future. Read about him at JewishIsrael.org.

Phil on September 28, 2012 at 11:06 am

Debbie the Gentiles tend to either dislike or fetishize us. This picture belongs to the “dislike” community. Also I know we’re just days into 5773 but already I can’t contain a kvetch: Why do you make me “click to read more” on your longer posts? I suggest we get rid of that so I don’t have to click, click again and then resume reading. It would enhance my DS.com experience and you’d easily break even due to my increased frequency and staying time.

A1 on September 28, 2012 at 12:05 pm

A1, why on earth would Debbie want to enhance your experience here?

skzion on September 28, 2012 at 2:45 pm

FOXNEWS is the most pro-Israel and not antisemitic TV channel in the USA.

RUPERT MURDOCH TILL MAIN OWNER AND HAS DONE MORE FOR ISRAEL THAN ANYONE IN THE USA.

bob on September 28, 2012 at 3:37 pm

Israel treads a dangerous path. It seems that Mr Netanyahu is becoming a little out of control and a thorn in the American governement’s side. Who knows how this one will play out.

Beryl on September 28, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    Really Beryl? I guess that makes sense if you pull Iran and the Palestinians out of the picture. If not, you are probably just another Stormfront junkie.

    Worry01 on September 29, 2012 at 5:47 am

    Something tells me Netanyahu is waiting for the upcoming election before he makes any kind of decision about Iran. Obviously, Obama’s declaration of “we’ve got your back” was hollow and false, so what else can the man do if he’s being left to twist in the wind by the US?? At least this is what I’m hoping is the case.

    As to A1′s comment above, I’m not inclined to either dislike or fetishize the Jews. But no matter. The time for such intensely personal responses is long past. For me, as the Godfather would say, “it’s only business,” and my interest is national security. Right now, the knee-jerk anti-semitism of some in the media and government, far beyond being simply tiresome and ignorant, could end up costing us ALL a great deal.

    Israel is our ONLY ally in the middle east. Considering all the incredibly dangerous unrest that’s obviously brewing, Obama’s anti-Israel stance is making me NUTS!!!

    The issues for the Israelis are far more complex, I know, but right now, American citizens need to see the bigger picture here, and I’m not sure they are. And that dumb horse’s a$$ of a photo didn’t help, I’m sure. As far as I’m concerned, this is NOT the time to confuse the issue by making Netanyahu look stupid. What the hell were these people thinking?? We’ve got a dead ambassador, a razed Libyan embassy, and an Iranian leader hell-bent on developing nukes. Honestly, sometimes it seems to me that fiddling while Rome burns has become our national pasttime.

    Mary on October 3, 2012 at 2:59 am

let me see, israel is surrounded by a billion nazi ragheads howling for the jews blood but is all the jews fault?we all know that we are at war with iran and pisslam but refuse to admit it which is dangerous for america.do our politions realy believe that there is a difference between a radical muzzie and a muzzie?israel should attack iran either with conventional weapons or nuke the bastards.nuke all the raghead capitals!save one for russia china and maybe washington because i would not miss dc.

BRUCE on September 28, 2012 at 3:58 pm

You have gone off the deep end – that is not a NAZI salute. You are looking for something not there

Mark
Newar, CA

Mark D on September 28, 2012 at 9:13 pm

The United Nations heard plainly a Twelver declare an end-times apocalyptic message of his faith and yawned.

Hillary took a pill and got into another limo.

The world burned.

Jack on September 29, 2012 at 1:09 am

You little Debbie outfit….

Debbie how do you know Fox intentionally used a photo of Bibi to make him appear like Hitler? I’m Jewish and would never have even noticed the photo had you not brought it up. You’re sensitive woman. You may be right but good grief I find it very hard to believe it was intentionally done. Don’t get mad at me either.

just sayin on September 29, 2012 at 4:47 am

    Just, you might try reading. It was not only Debbie who noticed it. Of course, that would interrupt your inane narrative which is akin to what a drunk gives a bartender at closing time.

    Worry01 on September 29, 2012 at 5:45 am

How well you are named Worry01. Do you see a Nazi behind every corner lurking in the shadows. All professional photographers are trained to capture the most expressive gestures a person makes. No way in hell Fox would overtly and intentionally conjure up Bibi as Hitler, dumbass.

While were at it, trying to get a person fired for saying “Go back to Israel, Jews.” Is PC to the hilt. Followings Debbies hypersensitive logic here, POS H Stern would have been out of a job long ago. Debbie’s own narrow ass would be in trouble too.

Beginning to sound like the SPLC around here. Chew on that for awhile.

just sayin on September 29, 2012 at 10:37 am

Have to agree Just, that was straight out of Sharpton’s playbook. Schlussel is losing it.

Netanyahu Fan on September 29, 2012 at 10:57 am

just sayin’ and Netanyahu’s only fan don’t get it.

Debbie is applying the tactics of Muslims and the Left against Muslims and the Left. This is an effective way of responding to them, and it also causes their tactics to have a downside FOR THEM.

(I suspect that sayin’ actually DOES get it but is from the dark side.)

skzion on September 30, 2012 at 1:44 pm

Interesting, Bibi was doing a waving gesture with his left arm with palm facing in the left direction, fingers closed, that is definitely NOT a Nazi salute (actually, that Nazi salute is the Bellamy salute invented by an American socialist and the Nazis copied it). This leftist tactical photo was clearly an attack on Bibi, depicting him as a “Nazi” doing the salute, but the editors failed to realize that Nazis only does hand-salute with the RIGHT arm straight ahead, not with the left and to the side.

Photo-journalism editorial FAIL.

Bob on September 30, 2012 at 2:51 pm

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