January 17, 2013, - 3:07 pm

New York Times Columnist Calls Jews & NRA “Pigs” – What if He Said That About Muslims, Gays, NAACP?

By Debbie Schlussel

Would Nicholas Kristof still have a New York Times column if he tweeted that the Gay lobby, HAMAS CAIR, and the NAACP were “pigs”? Nope. But he tweeted that the NRA and AIPAC–the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (the pro-Israel lobby, which BTW has remained mum on the Chuck Hagel nomination) are the two biggest “pigs.” And so hardly an eyelash is batted.

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New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof is facing criticism after retweeting a controversial message that referred to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee and the National Rifle Association as “the 2 most pig like lobbies” in America.


Longtime Israel critic M.J. Rosenberg, who was dumped by the liberal Media Matters for America for his use of borderline anti-Semitic language, authored the controversial tweet Wednesday afternoon. It called to mind recently unearthed statements by Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi that referred to Jews as “pigs” and “monkeys”–a common Muslim slur against Jews and Christians akin to the N-word.

“OBAMA told the 2 most pig like lobbies, AIPAC & NRA, to drop dead in same month. Next: Chamber of Commerce,” Rosenberg wrote.

The missive was then retweeted by Kristof and a slew of others.

Rosenberg regularly engages in anti-Israel activism on Twitter and has repeatedly used the term “Israel firster,” a phrase with origins in the white supremacist movement that many consider anti-Semitic.

As longtime readers know, I’ve been a frequent target of M.J. Rosenberg’s repeated anti-Semitic, “Israel firster” tweet attacks. He also said I’m not a real Jew, which is hilarious since I’m an observant Jew, and he’s a Jew In Name Only who’d have been swiftly beheaded by the Maccabees.

In any event, what is tolerated against Jews and gun-owners and supporters of Israel is never tolerated against Blacks, Hispanics, gays, lesbians, and so on. And that’s why Nicholas Kristof–who was tight with and a strong defender of convicted Islamic Jihad terrorist-in-chief, Sami Al-Arian, telling us that this mastermind of a bus-bombing that murdered innocents including an American, was an innnocent and decent dude–will continue to be celebrated by the left and its crown jewel/house organ, the New York HAMAS Times. Just as Mohammed Morsi’s comments about Jews being pigs are tolerated by the Obamaniks, Kristof’s comments are as well. And Kristof is a Morsi and Muslim Brotherhood fan, as I’ve told you before. He told us not to worry–that the Muslim Brotherhood is moderate, modern, and liberal. And the morons and frauds at the American Spectator cited him as a reliable source on this new Muslim liberal democracy that is Muslim Brohood Egypt.

And, again, as I noted, AIPAC hardly consists of “pigs,” in the sense of slovenly greediness. As I’ve noted repeatedly on this site, AIPAC really doesn’t do much to help Israel (more here), so much as it does a great deal to sustain its multi-million dollar bureaucracy of liberal Jews in America who want to shove concessions and appeasement of Islamic terrorists down Israel’s throat. That’s why AIPAC couldn’t care less if anti-Semitic, anti-Israel, pro-HAMAS/Hezbollah/Iran Chuck Hagel gets confirmed and isn’t saying a peep. Rosenberg, by the way, spent many years on the AIPAC payroll, writing its “Near East Report” newsletter, so he’s a fraud and a hypocrite. But the point is that the vast majority of AIPAC’s members and employees are Jews, and this tweet was meant as an anti-Semitic slur. Period. As in, “Yay, Obama! He slapped down those evil Jews and those nasty gun owning nuts!”

So, it’s beyond comical that the organization would be called a pig. As for the NRA, since when is defending one of the two most important civil liberties (gun ownership–the other is free speech) a characteristic of being a pig?

Truth is, the biggest pigs on earth are uber-liberal elitists like M.J. Rosenberg and Nicholas Kristof. They’ve made careers out of living in slop.

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Thanks for this piece Debbie, and it’s just about time that this Nicholas Kristoff clown get’s the “pink-slip” for his alleged anti-semitic hate-speech towards jewish people and equating the NRA to pigs/pork.

You’re also correct, what if this left wing schmuck had said something similar about muslims, non-white minorities, CAIR, NAACP, ADC, etc., he would’ve lost his job from the get-go. And it’s time that we the people send x-amounts of letters to the NYT and demand that they fire Nicholas Kristoff for his hate-speech and intolerance, had this been a sane time period, he wouldn’t have been employed by the NYT, he would’ve had a regular job or career like the rest of us!

“A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

Sean R. on January 17, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    Your comment, as to what defines a Nation…could be correct if only U added this: EVERY NATION DESERVES IT’S LEADERS….Think it over please.

    Simon on January 17, 2013 at 3:47 pm

Maybe he’s a Polish (extraction) self-loathing Jew? What do you think!

@Rick_Buggy on January 17, 2013 at 3:42 pm

The US is returning to the early and mid-20th century beliefs, widespread in this country for quite a while, that Jews were racially inferior to Anglo-Saxons — one reason why Hitler and Mussolini were somewhat popular in the 30s.

From that perspective, it makes sense to attack AIPAC, not for what they do, but for who they are. They are probably the organization that came to mind because of his previous experience, and because an attack on them will help stifle potential Jewish criticism of Obama’s future projects.

And people like Kristof are being encouraged by the liberal rulers of this society. They are encouraged by the cringing and cowering of the Republican Party, and want to build on it to intimidate anyone else who might disagree with them. All of the devices such as Facebook and Twitter, which permit expression of views without any thought or reasoning to back them up, are being enlisted, to create an atmosphere of intimidation.

The Republicans could not effectively respond to the Occupy Wall Street nitwits, so the hope is that the current targets won’t be able to respond to this kind of thing either. Keep the Jews in line, and try to isolate the NRA as much as possible.

They may be modeling their campaign after Mussolini, who after the March on Rome, consolidated fascism step by step, or Stalin, whose smears of his opponents, many of them Jewish, made it easier to ultimately liquidate them.

There is no magical reason why the US is automatically exempt from these trends and developments.

Little Al on January 17, 2013 at 4:05 pm

Brutal fascist-hogs like Kristof and Rosenberg are the kind of pigs dancing around at the end of “Animal Farm” screaming that “Some pigs are more equal than others.” If I ever come across any POS who likes them, I will know they are my enemy.

And you are correct DS…anti-gay, anti-Hispanic/Latino & anti-NAALCP ANYTHING would never be tolerated. They are protected and untouchable (all the while, doing most of the damage that is corroding society) Like Kristof and Rosenberg.

Obama-Putin would feel right at home with these two pukes. If only The LA Times would release that Rashid Khalidi videotape…it would remove ALL doubt. Not that we really need it.

And don’t even get me started on those evil Moooooslims. Daily they show their true, Jihadi colours and in the sand the evil and stupid Liberal head goes.

When I point out I am not Jewish it’s not to proclaim one has to be Jewish to take these matters with deadly seriousness. It’s me putting out there that I am on the Jews/Israel side even though I am not Jewish and I take those who hate Israel and Zionism as an enemy. I want other non-Jews to be as invested as I am and see where the true evil beasts are…those who hate Israel and prop up the Mooooslim pigs.

Morsi was speaking truthfully from his evil, black heart. I know that and I will not equivocate for that swine and I take him at his word. If you don’t you’re a dhimmi or support the Jihadi war-pigs because you are one too!

Skunky on January 17, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    Skunky, it is appropriate that you mention Animal Farm. One of the most memorable parts of that book is the constant chanting of the sheep: ‘four legs good, two legs bad’ whenever any criticism of the pigs was expressed.

    The sycophantic press in this country reminds me of those sheep; always quick to recite the same smears and distortions, no matter what the instigating event.

    Little Al on January 17, 2013 at 4:36 pm

Thanks again Debbie! I would hear about “NONE” of this if not for you.

PDMac60 on January 17, 2013 at 4:21 pm

And yet, hundreds of thousands of Jews continue to get Pravda North (The New York Times) (The Washington Post is Pravda South).

Jonathan E. Grant on January 17, 2013 at 4:28 pm

    …….and vote in lockstep, for democrats, and will continue to do so in their blindness to the evils of liberalism. People ask me why Jews vote for an obama and other assorted politicians who do not have their interest at heart. I believe that the religion practiced by these folks is not Judaism – their true religion is liberalism. The worship idols and bow down to those who wish them harm. The other theory I believe is that subconsciously, they believe in the mistaken idea that, “If I behave, the tiger will eat me last.” Fools.

    Victoryman on January 18, 2013 at 10:31 am

Make no mistake about it, Kristof is not just expressing his own opinion. The position that the NRA and AIPAC are “pig lobbyists” is the OFFICIAL position of the New York Times. A group called CAMERA (Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America) did an exhaustive analysis of NYT articles and opinion pieces–called “Indicting Israel– and concluded the following:

“CAMERA’s investigation of New York Times coverage between July 1 and Dec. 31, 2011 reveals empirically that there is real cause for concern. The dominant finding of the study is a disproportionate, continuous, embedded indictment of Israel that dominates both news and commentary sections. Israeli views are downplayed while Palestinian perspectives, especially criticism of Israel, are amplified and even promoted. The net effect is an overarching message, woven into the fabric of the coverage, of Israeli fault and responsibility for the conflict.”

In short, the NYT is strictly a leftist viewpoint publication, and everything they write about is filtered through that lens. So naturally, they want more government control over our lives, less freedom and liberty, and they hate Israel–as a Zionist entity, for much the same reasons. The fact that the dominant family controlling the NYT–the Sultzbergers–are Jewish does not mean that they don’t hate Jews and Israel, contrary to what the more obvious anti-Semities posit.

However, I don’t agree with CAMERA’s other conclusion that the NYT writes the things they do because they don’t want to appear biased in favor of Jews and Israel. They are smart enough to know that the more obvious anti-Semities are going to accuse them of being biased in favor of Jews and Israel no matter how much vitriol they use against them in the articles and op-eds.

The problem, rather, is that they are dedicated leftists, and, in their twisted way of thinking, they believe that Jews will survive by “assimilating.” Before World War II, many of the German Jews actually thought that because they were so assimilated into German society and considered themselves “Germans-first,” that they would escape the wrath of the Nazis. Wrong. The Sultzbergers have exactly that some “mentality.” They have learned NOTHING. Thus, they are going to be backing the same gun control policies that Hitler and Stalin implemented.

Sometimes I wish that a really wealthy Jewish businessman who supports liberty, freedom, the Constitution, and Israel–someone like Sheldon Adelson–would buy a major U.S. newspaper and do some real reporting, and shove the NYT aside where it belongs.

Ralph Adamo on January 17, 2013 at 4:46 pm

    Ralph, under Hitler guns were deregulated from what I have read. Jews were restricted from owning firearms and other weapons. Are these references to Hitler a mistake and should be attributed to laws passed to satisfy the Treaty of Versailles around 1920? I’ll search some of Debbie’s old blogs. Maybe there is a reference somewhere.

    Visteo on January 17, 2013 at 6:47 pm

      Visteo you turd, your claims deserve only scorn.

      skzion on January 17, 2013 at 7:56 pm

        Skzion, there are many online sights that refute the Hitler claim. They all have the same information. This one was more interesting in the way it was presented…

        http://www.salon.com/2013/01/11/stop_talking_about_hitler/

        I am no Conservaturd or Libtard. If you have a link with something that looks credible, I would love to see it.

        Visteo on January 17, 2013 at 8:23 pm

          Yeah, Visteo’s no Libtard (giggle-giggle). He just hates the 2nd Amendment & tries (in vain) to make his Libtard, fascist, Utopian dream square against the truth he refuses to see.

          And siting salon.com is as credible if I tried to break an argument and sited Sean Vannity (giggle-giggle-giggle).

          My breaking his Libtard belief a few weeks ago, his questioning DS’ thread on “Dr. Blum” and now siting salon.com and to try to square his 2nd Amendment Libtard dream.

          Yep, follow Visteo. He’s got it goin’ on. LOLOL!

          Skunky on January 17, 2013 at 8:45 pm

          Visteo, no one can deny that there are now a LOT of website stories being put out everywhere conveying the following messages: gun control will protect citizens; Hitler and Stalin were against gun control, and that advocates of the second amendment are misinformed.

          However, there is no truth to ANY of those messages now so widely circulated that even when you are looking for real history, these messages clutter every search.

          Of course, if you go to the “ultimate authority on all things true and false”–Snopes.com–they will tell you that Hitler wasn’t in favor of gun control. But if you look into Snopes, you will find that they are full of crap and they always insert their leftist spin wherever they can. And deceit, disinformation, and misinformation is the stock-in-trade of all leftists.

          Nonetheless, I will give you the benefit of the doubt–even though you probably don’t deserve it, and provide you with a link to some REAL history about gun control and the Nazis. You read it–if you’re capable and are not the phony that I suspect that you are–if you want to learn the truth for a change, instead of listening to the endless, artery clogging, brain-dead, leftist drivel:

          http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/article-nazilaw.pdf

          Ralph Adamo on January 18, 2013 at 3:44 am

        Skzion, Visteo & Samir have something else in common (other than love of Islamic Jihad)…they both are dismissive when their argument has been conclusively broken (over their empty head).

        When I broke Visteo’s stupid argument on the 2nd Amendment and gun control, he wished a phantasmogoric “boyfriend” of mine to pistol whip and shoot me in the gulliver. Hypocrisy is so deliciously Liberal!

        But he’s passionately anti-2nd Amendment don’tcha know???

        And Samir pretends he can point out that passage in the Talmud he says is there (but is sounds soooo much like Islam) but isn’t.

        Projection is so Libtard & Jihadi at the same time!

        Skunky on January 17, 2013 at 8:31 pm

          Skunky, I only get passionate when you want to arm 5 year old school children for their own protection. Unlike a BB gun they may do more than shoot an eye out. You NRA radicals are all the same. You want to hand out guns like they were condoms at some Conservaturd orgy. You still think more guns on the street will reduce GUN violence? Yep, radical rhetoric with no regard for even common sense.

          If you can find a link to Hannity on Hitler taking guns (other than from Jews), please post it. I enjoyed the Salon presentation of the facts….which are the same facts as more reputable sites.

          Visteo on January 17, 2013 at 11:00 pm

          Visteo, you’re a Libtard fraud. I ALREADY dismantled the bizarro belief you have on gun control. YOU want more people to suffer rather than help themselves take down evil idiots.

          I’m VERY proud to be a NRA supporter. If it’s nutty to you I am on the right track. Whoo-hoo!

          It’s funny how ‘crypto’ Libtards don’t want to admit that they are Libtards. I am PROUD to be a Conservative and don’t equivocate like you.

          I was being sarcastic about Vannity, you dope. He’s an idiot. But I see you and Samir also hate Jooooooos too.

          You’re tiresome, STFU. I’m gonna start ignoring you because Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder.

          “Ain’t nobody got time for that”!!!

          Skunky on January 17, 2013 at 11:07 pm

          Vis also seems to think that some person or persons are supportive of arming five year olds Skunky. At some point you are no longer dealing with a political issue, but a cognitive disorder. Jared Loughner suffered from similar problems which reduced him to worshiping a skull near the end.

          Worry01 on January 18, 2013 at 11:29 am

          Thank you Worry. You quite rightly picked up on the point in Visteo’s mental defectiveness spewing that I should have hammered him on. I regretted forgetting to point that valid point out and am glad you did…and very succinctly. Danke!

          I’ll be ignoring his Libtard posts from now on. I can spend time here either learning from others or making valid points that are truthful and useful (and didactic!).

          Skunky on January 18, 2013 at 12:09 pm

          Skunky, Visteo is indeed a waste of time, just like P’Shaw and Samir. Imagine citing Salon as a source!

          The data on gun control are clear, as we already know: increasing the stringency either has no effect on various crime figures or it increases crime. Mostly the latter. This has been tested in before-and-after studies of the same place. That’s important because there can be background trends that need to be pulled out having nothing to do with a change in gun control.

          skzion on January 18, 2013 at 4:40 pm

      Go to the website of JPFO (for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership) and find their publication, “Gateway to Tyranny” — this is the best (i.e., most accurate) treatment that exists, regarding the creation, and implementation, of the Nazi gun-control laws.
      In fact, the Nazis — like all other socialists — used deceptive and insidious means to achieve their goals (in this case, the complete disarming of the German Jews). Thus, they could, at any time, point to their German Weapons Law of March 18, 1938, and accurately claim that it DID NOT exclude Jews from owning or carrying firearms — while failing to mention that IT DID — very clearly — exclude Jews from manufacturing, and selling, firearms! What we call, “a distinction without a difference!” For, if Jews couldn’t manufacture their own guns, and Jews couldn’t sell already-existing guns to other Jews, then where, exactly, could German Jews obtain ANY firearms at all? What Good Aryan of that day would DARE to sell a gun to a Jew, in THAT political, and social climate of SS intimidation? Most of the Germans had NO desire, to begin with, to sell a gun to a Jew! and those who would have ordinarily, were intimidated into inaction, lest they be spotted doing so, and ratted-out by their neighbors, or even their own children, who had been co-opted by the Hitler Youth movement! ALWAYS take whatever a socialist/communist/progressive (or their apologists) says with a pound of salt! There is ALWAYS something more to it, which is either left entirely unsaid, or, if stated, is intentionally misrepresented (or, if it’s being said by one of the Left’s Useless Idiots, then — possibly –unintentionally mispresented).

      Retribution on January 22, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    “Sometimes I wish that a really wealthy Jewish businessman who supports liberty, freedom, the Constitution, and Israel–someone like Sheldon Adelson–would buy a major U.S. newspaper and do some real reporting, and shove the NYT aside where it belongs.”

    What about Rupert Murdoch?

    Kershaw on January 18, 2013 at 11:41 pm

Well Ralph, the circulation of NYT has dropped precipitously, or so I recall. Unfortunately, those who do read it are disproportionately elite.

BTW, the NYT was *awful* while AIDS was spreading throughout the country, with epicenters in NYC and San Francisco. It put AIDS stories in unread places. It would not do much serious reporting on it. I say this to point out that the NYT is not so much a liberal publication but a Hard Left one. Its purpose is to destroy certain types of targets and thereby to undermine our country.

Actually, why not restrict its First Amendment rights? Surely we can make a more compelling case for that than leftists can for gun control. Treason is not protected. It’s time to describe what the NYT is doing more accurately AS treason.

skzion on January 17, 2013 at 6:12 pm

For a while I’ve thought that the anti-Semitic scum at NYT should be targeted with non-violent direct action.

Why is it that ACT UP could go after NYT and we can’t?

skzion on January 17, 2013 at 7:54 pm

This is the same Nicolas Kristoff who a few weeks ago tried to say that no one in the US has the right to crticize the rapists of that woman in India that died from her injuries while at the hospital. He equated that horrible gang rape that those animals did to what the teenagers did to a girl at Steubenville, Ohio. Yes both women did not deserved it, yet Nicolas critique was that we in the US has no “moral higher ground” since we condone this ourselves to occur in the US. By Nicolas logic then, if an animal kills a family with whatever weapon, I can not say anything due to what happened at Connecticut? What really amazed me was the fools that commented on Nicolas piece by agreeing and then they went on a typical “hate America” tirade of how we are the cause of all the worlds problems. This is guy is disgusting and if he gets terminated, no tears shed by me.

Mario on January 18, 2013 at 12:22 am

Sometimes, however, the NYT does surprise us. Consider, for example, the following Op-ed by Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Or, perhaps, the NYT editors simply enjoyed repeating the typical Muslim slurs and vitriolic propaganda against the Jews and Israel. In any event, I’ve reprinted it complete below, and provided the link at the end:

New York Times
Op-Ed Contributor
Raised on Hatred By AYAAN HIRSI ALI
Published: January 17, 2013

EGYPT’S newly elected president, Mohamed Morsi, was caught on tape about three years ago urging his followers to “nurse our children and our grandchildren on hatred” for Jews and Zionists. Not long after, the then-leader of the Muslim Brotherhood described Zionists as “bloodsuckers who attack the Palestinians,” “warmongers” and “descendants of apes and pigs.”

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Editorial: President Morsi’s Repulsive Comments (January 16, 2013) These remarks are disgusting, but they are neither shocking nor new. As a child growing up in a Muslim family, I constantly heard my mother, other relatives and neighbors wish for the death of Jews, who were considered our darkest enemy. Our religious tutors and the preachers in our mosques set aside extra time to pray for the destruction of Jews.

For far too long the pervasive Middle Eastern qualification of Jews as murderers and bloodsuckers was dismissed in the West as extreme views expressed by radical fringe groups. But they are not. In truth, those Muslims who think of Jews as friends and fellow human beings with a right to their own state are a minority, and are under intense pressure to change their minds.

All over the Middle East, hatred for Jews and Zionists can be found in textbooks for children as young as three, complete with illustrations of Jews with monster-like qualities. Mainstream educational television programs are consistently anti-Semitic. In songs, books, newspaper articles and blogs, Jews are variously compared to pigs, donkeys, rats and cockroaches, and also to vampires and a host of other imaginary creatures.

Consider this infamous dialogue between a three-year-old and a television presenter, eight years before Morsi’s remarks.

Presenter: “Do you like Jews?”

Three-year-old: “No.”

“Why don’t you like them?”

“Jews are apes and pigs.”

“Who said this?”

“Our God.”

“Where did he say this?”

“In the Koran.”

The presenter responds approvingly: “No [parents] could wish for Allah to give them a more believing girl than she … May Allah bless her, her father and mother.”

This conversation was not caught on hidden camera or taped by propagandists. It was featured on a prominent program called “Muslim Woman Magazine” and broadcast by Iqraa, the popular Saudi-owned satellite channel.

It is a major step forward for a sitting U.S. administration and leading American newspapers to unequivocally condemn Morsi’s words. But condemnation is just the first move.

Here is an opportunity to acknowledge the breadth and depth of the attitude toward Jews in the Middle East, and how that affects the much desired but elusive peace process between Israel and the Palestinians.

So many explanations have been offered for the failure of successive U.S. administrations to achieve that peace, but the answer is in Morsi’s words. Why would one make peace with bloodsuckers and descendants of apes and monkeys?

Millions of Muslims have been conditioned to regard Jews not only as the enemies of Palestine but as the enemies of all Muslims, of God and of all humanity. Arab leaders far more prominent and influential than Morsi have been tireless in “educating” or “nursing” generations to believe that Jews are “the scum of the human race, the rats of the world, the violators of pacts and agreements, the murderers of the prophets, and the offspring of apes and pigs.” (These are the words of the Saudi sheik Abdul Rahman al-Sudais, imam at the Masjid al-Haram mosque in Mecca.)

In 2011, a Pew survey found that in Turkey, just 4 percent of those surveyed held a “very favorable” or “somewhat favorable” view of Jews; in Indonesia, 10 percent; in Pakistan 2 percent. In addition, 95 percent of Jordanians, 94 percent of Egyptians and 95 percent of Lebanese hold a “very unfavorable” view of Jews.

In recent decades Israeli and American administrations negotiated with unelected Arab despots, who played a double game. They honored the formal peace treaties by not conducting military attacks against Israel. But they condoned the Islamists’ dissemination of hatred against Israel, Zionism and Jews.

As the Islamists spread their influence through civil institutions, young people were nursed on hatred.

In the wake of the Arab Spring, as the people take a chance on democracy, they and their new leadership want to see their ideals turned into policy.

For too many of those who fought for their own liberation, one of those ideals is the end of peace with Israel. The United States must make clear to Morsi that this is not an option.

This is also a crucial opportunity for the region’s secular movements, which must speak out against the clergy’s incitement of young minds to hatred. It is time for these secular movements to start a countereducation in tolerance.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a fellow at the Belfer Center’s Future of Diplomacy Project at the Harvard Kennedy School, and author of the books “Infidel” and “Nomad: From Islam to America: A Personal Journey Through the Clash of Civilizations.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/18/opinion/global/ayaan-hirsi-ali-morsis-comments-on-jews.html?_r=3&

Ralph Adamo on January 18, 2013 at 1:22 am

    Thank-you, Ralph, for the link:

    http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/article-nazilaw.pdf

    It is fact based, but I would draw a slightly different conclusion based on the facts. The author concluded,

    “If the Nazi experience teaches anything, it teaches that totalitarian governments will attempt to disarm their subjects
    so as to extinguish any ability to resist crimes against humanity.”

    The Nazi’s disarmed anyone who opposed their views. For the majority of the German people (including those who opposed the Nazi ideals, but kept their mouths shut) gun laws were relaxed under Hitler.

    I am not in favor of dismantling the Second Amendment. I am in favor of keeping guns out of certain peoples hands. If there were a group of people that openly called for your or my destruction, I want my government to take away their arms. Selling me a gun and telling me to defend myself is a crap NRA answer.

    Visteo on January 18, 2013 at 12:49 pm

Dear Debbie: First you insult Eva Braun, by comparing her to Jodie Foster. Then you insult pigs by comparing them to M.J. Rosenberg and Nicholas Kristof. Debbie, you really are getting too mean and unfair.

Miranda Rose Smith on January 18, 2013 at 1:49 am

In answer to the headline: he’d be a right-thinking American.

CG on January 18, 2013 at 9:18 am

May he live the rest of his stupid life without the benefit of Jewish medicine, science, music, literature, art, engineering, etc. Mmmmk?

Pray Hard on January 18, 2013 at 11:05 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31vm3-BQRJU

Really, click through to the YouTube video, then afterwards, here’s my question …

…. Nick Kristoff, seriously dude. How exactly are you, who are anti-gun, going to disarm Americans who, as in this video, cherish their 2nd Amendment Rights? A lot.

Think about it long and hard, Nick.

jack on January 18, 2013 at 11:05 am

Kristoff is typical of what the New York Times has become. The paper has more and more of the feel of USA Today in terms of its article length physical thinness The New York Times subscriber base is a shadow of what it was even twenty years ago. In the past, people nationally picked up the New York Times was different from their local rag in terms of the quality of the writing and length of its article. It was not plastered with AP or Reuters stories, but used its own reporters to cover major events, and to explain what was going on in detail. Those qualities have nearly vanished at the New York Times. Its straight news items have become more like its opinion pieces, and thus unreliable as a source of information.I suspect its print edition will become a thing of the past quite soon now.

Worry01 on January 18, 2013 at 11:21 am

    @Worry–

    If it makes anyone feel better, the NY Times has *always* been on the wrong side, since its founding. In more recent times, let’s not forget the Times’ pro-Stalin Walter Duranty, nor its pro-Castro Herbert Matthews.

    The paper has always been garbage, wrapped-up in phony Upper East Side cultural sensibilities. Just a case of the trendsetters and taste makers being able to convince all the sheeple that they were great.

    Red Ryder on January 18, 2013 at 12:37 pm

Here is what good, Conservative Australian voters know (and voting is COMPULSORY in Oz…since 1924) since 640k Australians were forced to surrender their arms to their increasingly Libtard, socialistic Gubmint. Hopefully, they’ll jettison the corrupt Julia Gilliard this year…

In the state of Victoria gun homicides are up 300%

Homicides are up 6.2%
Assaults are up 9.6%
Armed robberies (the robbers are ILLEGALLY ARMED) are up a whopping 44%

ANYONE who is still clinging to less guns equals a safer public is not very bright. In fact, Zombies avoid them because the Zombies’ desire is to feast on BRAINS…not bloody morons.

Skunky on January 18, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    Skunky, is this you or someone else spinning the facts? I can see your boyfriend has been unsuccessful at slapping the stupid out of you. I hope you did not go Postal on him. Here are some figures on GUN deaths per 100K in Australia:

    2010: 1.06
    2009: 1.04
    2008: 1.08
    2007: 1.12
    2006: 1.19
    2005: 1.04
    2004: 1.16
    2003: 1.45
    2002: 1.49
    2001: 1.68
    2000: 1.69
    1999: 1.83
    1998: 1.67
    1997: 2.31
    1996: 2.82
    1995: 2.59
    1994: 2.88
    1993: 2.89
    1992: 3.47
    1991: 3.57
    1990: 3.48
    1989: 3.26
    1988: 4.06
    1987: 4.25
    1986: 4.21
    1985: 4.31
    1984: 4.34
    1983: 4.20
    1982: 4.56
    1981: 4.15
    1980: 4.67
    1979: 4.71

    The US was around 10 compared to Australia’s 1 in 2010. Now go ahead and tell me how you debunked more guns = more deaths. Can I join you in Fantasyland?

    Visteo on January 18, 2013 at 3:11 pm

…..Should be “more guns” = “more gun deaths”

Visteo on January 18, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    Visteo, there are many here would who love to slap YOU silly.

    By the way, it’s nice that you can make up “data” and post it here.

    skzion on January 18, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    Visteo, you’re gonna hafta find someone else who’ll wanna participate in your disgusting circle-jerk. I will no longer be reading your pap.

    And I only wanted to respond to your inane post (peeps, my post contains the bona fide facts on Oz. Research for yourself) because I noticed that you changed your verbiage regarding my phantasmagoric “boyfriend” from PISTOL-WHIPPING and SHOOTING ME IN THE HEAD to just physically beating me. You’re consistent!!

    Libtardisms are the complete opposite of the faux-Libtardism ideology of the mentally ill Libtard.

    Visteo hates the 2nd Amendment, wants peeps to die (or suffer greatly like poor Kevin McCarron) rather than defend themselves
    lawfully. He also wants the people he disagrees with to be shot or pistol whipped. Let’s hear it for Libtardism consistency!

    Visteo I’ll never read another one of your stupid posts. Buh-bye, dummy!

    Skunky on January 18, 2013 at 4:32 pm

LOL. Skunky, I am for Second Amendment rights. I just don’t want criminals and the insane to have them.

Skzion, here is the website. Now you will be able to see how some are taking actual data and presenting it in misleading ways…

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/australia

Visteo on January 18, 2013 at 5:02 pm

Visteo, if more guns means less people like you that’s a price I’m willing to pay.

Frankz on January 18, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    Frankz, it means less people like YOU and ME. Spend wisely.

    Visteo on January 18, 2013 at 6:09 pm

You’re either a Libtard or you’re a Retard!

Kershaw on January 18, 2013 at 11:45 pm

Visteo, you’re wasting your time! You’re a Libtard and all your posts ooze of common sense! If Obama promotes vanilla ice cream then you better support chocolate ice cream because only mooooooooslim loving Libtards would go vanilla! Sean Hannity would be a fraud because even though he’s all for chocolate ice cream, he was seen drinking a vanilla milkshake back in 1989!

My favorite argument against stricter gun laws is how the second amendment isn’t about hunting or sports shooting, it’s about being able to defend ourselves against a tyrannical Government!! An AR-15 won’t help any of us defend ourselves against a tyrannical government, heck even a tank won’t do sh!t if we ever got to that point! The government has NUKES and we have our guns, a tyrannical government can knock us out before the first round even starts!

Kershaw on January 19, 2013 at 12:30 am

    That’s so cute. Visteo and P’Shaw can now jerk each other off. Maybe they can have a three-way with that nauseating Nikki Kristof.

    skzion on January 19, 2013 at 8:53 pm

Liberals are openly hostile towards opinions that are contrary to their own and do not hesitate to disrupt, very loudly and vocally express their opinions, attempt to silence those who oppose them, and boycott any business or person who opposes them. Meanwhile, conservatives quietly take it. We turn the other cheek to be beaten down time and time again. Well, I, for one, am sick of it. I am tired of quietly and respectfully listening while liberal fools express their opinions. I am tired of sitting quietly by while laws are passed and executive orders issued that are designed to trample my freedoms. And I am tired of my money going to support those who support these actions. The comments made by Nicholas Kristof are beyond contemptuous. I feel we should boycott the Times and any entity, local or national that advertises with them, until Nicholas Kristof is on the unemployment line. And we should make it abundantly clear to any future employer of this jerk that they will face the same. Perhaps when he has to take a job cleaning sh*t out of clogged sewer lines he’ll understand the error of his ways.

DeWayne on January 19, 2013 at 10:31 am

Kristof and the NYT have a long anti-Semitic record. By the way, the pig comparison is an echo of the medieval, anti-Semitic Judensau theme – check Wiki or Google.

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