June 11, 2013, - 8:58 am

Snowden No Hero – Should Be Prosecuted Like Manning; Partisan Hypocrites: Despite Denials, Limbaugh Others Supported More Invasive Bush NSA Wiretapping

By Debbie Schlussel

Edward Snowden, the private contractor, who violated his top secret security clearance and gave away secrets of government data mining to detect terrorists, should be prosecuted. Make no mistake. He is NOT a hero. He’s merely an arrogant, misguided egomaniac. And he’s no different than Bradley Manning, the soldier who gave away secrets to Julian Assange, for them to be publicized to the world. Many conservatives rightly called for Manning’s prosecution. Why do they hypocritically now make excuses for Snowden?

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Edward Snowden, Bradley Manning: Same Difference & Both Should be Prosecuted

On Friday, I heard a caller tell Rush Limbaugh that “we all–including you–supported this” under Bush. Limbaugh disagreed, claiming that right after 9/11, he said on the air that he hoped the terrorist attacks wouldn’t be used by the government to take away our rights. He then claimed he was always against this. But Limbaugh’s memory is selective. In fact, when a group of Arab Muslims (including HAMAS CAIR), left-wingers (including Greenpeace and the late Christopher Hitchens), the ACLU, and libertarian-“conservatives” on the right filed a federal lawsuit in Detroit in January 2006 to stop Bush NSA telephone wiretapping, Limbaugh supported the Bush wiretaps and supportively read my article on the plaintiffs and participants on the air. Those wiretaps were far more invasive than the the Snowden-revealed program of mining phone numbers and e-mails for patterns. And Limbaugh and most on the right supported the wiretaps without warrants. Now, they are upset over a program that is far more constitutional. There is nothing that violates any right to privacy here because conversations and e-mails are not being recorded, unless and until there is probable cause.

It was laughable, yesterday, when Limbaugh read, with approval, a British newspaper’s differentiation of Snowden from Manning because Snowden is “smart” and “has a girlfriend” and “a life.” Huh? He’s an arrogant 29-year-old with a girlfriend who is an “acrobatic dancer” (one step above stripper, but still complete with pole). These are silly “distinctions” without a difference to what he did: jeopardize national security and break the law. But let’s say she was a ballroom dancer and they lived in a mansion. So what? We’re now judging a guy’s violation of national security based on class and snobbery? Really? A soldier–Manning–is “not credible,” but a pencil-necked, egomaniacal Millennial who hides in Hong Kong is? A soldier who disclosed national security secrets is to be condemned because he disclosed secrets because he is gay (at that time, Don’t Ask Don’t Tell was still in place), but a contractor–who took over $100,000 in annual pay (and–newsflash!–cashed the checks, because he’s such a “principled guy”) is not to be condemned for breaking the law and informing Islamic terrorists what we are doing? Thanks, Rush. Good to know you’re a snob. But both of these cretins should be prosecuted, just like you and other conservatives (such as FOX News’ Michelle Fraudkin) were calling for the leaker of information regarding the far more invasive Bush NSA wiretaps in 2005 to the New York Times to be prosecuted.






This conceited Gen Y geek, Snowden, said he disclosed the information–and put Islamic terrorists on alert–because he wanted “the public to decide.” Um, I don’t need the public to decide every aspect of national security. I don’t need people who watch “Keeping Up with the Kardashians” and “Teen Mom” and “Two and a Half Men” to have a vote in what we do to keep America safe. I don’t even want the pro-Trayvon Martin/New Black Panthers/Islam Rich Lowry and his National Review reader-idiots to have a say. National security is national security, and the masses don’t get a vote on what we do to keep America safe. America is not a democracy. It’s a republic. And we don’t have–thank G-d–a Ross Perot fantasy of national rule by computer vote on everything we do. The country would cease to exist if we did it that way. There’s a reason that what Snowden had is called “top SECRET” security clearance. It’s supposed to be a secret. The public has no right “to decide.”

I had to laugh, again, over a headline atop this morning’s Drudge Report, about how Democrats love government surveillance when it’s Obama, instead of Bush, doing the surveilling. Well, you can also say the same of the reverse, since most Republicans and conservatives supported far more invasive surveillance when the opposite was true, but now they are shocked–shocked!–that the government is looking at their phone records. And that’s the thing about demagogical partisans. There are no shortage of them on every side of the ideological divide. I’m not looking to partisans for protecting the country. I’m looking to principles. If you supported government surveillance in 2006, you should support it in 2013. If your support depends on what letter comes after the name of the President doing the data collection, you are a fraud and a hypocrite and not to be taken seriously. I’m interested in what keeps us safe.

Is the data mining of every phone call and e-mail excessive and overkill? Perhaps. But that’s only if they were listening in–China-style–to each call and reading each e-mail. That would be unconstitutional, but it’s not what’s happening here. In fact, what’s happening here is that data is collected and algorithms are run to look for patterns. That’s effective, and it’s necessary in our day and age with the technology we have. People need to catch up. This isn’t listening in on Ma and Pa Kettle’s analog landline telephone calls. We’re not in those days anymore.

Yes, with all this they didn’t get the Tsarnaev Bros. No system is perfect, and we even ignored the Russian warnings on Tamerlan Tsarnaev (but if the government had started tapping his phone conversations then, the ACLU, Rand Paul, and HAMAS CAIR would be all over that with lawsuits). I don’t trust the Obama administration, and the IRS scandal is appalling. We should be skeptical when government uses information to hurt people whose viewpoints they don’t like. But that’s not what’s going on here. There’s no evidence of that. There’s only the self-appointed saving–and we don’t need to be saved–by some loser high school drop-out contractor who managed to finagle his way to a $122,000 per year job and top secret security clearance, when he clearly wasn’t to be trusted at all.

For years, I’ve written on this site about the problems with the Tea Party embracing anti-Semitic, whack job libertarian politicos like Ron Paul and his son Rand. And I wondered how long it would be before the success of the Tea Party would lead to crazies like the Paulistinians ultimately reaching the pinnacle of leadership in the conservative movement, where they were once the pinnacle of pin-up boys for America’s fringe neo-Nazis. Well, it wasn’t long at all, sadly.

The crazy black helicopter crowd now rules the roost (and continues to ally with the crazy ACLU/terrorist lobby left and HAMAS CAIR on this). Rand Paul, who has Presidential stars in his eyes, says he will file a lawsuit all the way to the Supreme Court. Well, good luck with that Rand and the Paulistinians. Remember the NSA wiretap lawsuit of 2006, I wrote about above? In 2007, those wiretaps were held constitutional, and those included surveillance of actual conversations. This is just about mining of meta-data and mega-data. Not unconstitional, you libertarian “legal scholars.” Yup, gotta love the Paulistinian crowd. Always responding with “the Constitution” to every single question, and yet they really don’t know much about constitutional law, since there’s nothing illegal going on here.

A week or so after the Boston Marathon bombings, Rand Paul wrote a letter to the editor of the Wall Street Journal, in which he prayed for the constitutional rights of the “Arab American boys,” the Tsarnaevs (here’s a tip, Rand: they’re not Arabs, they’re Chechens). That’s who he is concerned with. Not you. Not your rights, not your safety. The rights of terrorists. Islamic terrorists. Their rights above your ultimate constitutional right: to life.

He chooses them. NOT you. And all of those who now condemn data mining when, in 2006, they supported NSA surveillance (at least the Pauls were consistent in their whackjobism from then to now) you are partisan frauds and grandstanders who don’t stand for a thing. You are no different at all from the Obamabots.

And you won’t keep me safe. If there is another terrorist attack, and there will be, the blood will be on your hypocritical hands.

While Rand Paul continues to empower himself and grandstand here, he’s also empowering Islamic terrorists (as is his new buddy, Edward Snowden–who will soon have an “acrobatic dancer girlfriend” in prison).

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The Arab democracy programme is better than the Arab Muslim brotherhood programme Obama has engaged in anyway.
Under the guise of extending what Bush did I’m sure.

Status Monkey: The Arab democracy program is the Obama Muslim Brohood program. Same thing. DS

LaSarus Reducted on June 11, 2013 at 1:55 pm

P.S. Everything is also stored for future possible review.

Paul on June 11, 2013 at 1:58 pm

Yes let’s just keep on thrashing Bush because lets face it there’s zero we can do about Obama.
He’s a Muslim and besides he’s black. We look like real A-holes saying too much bad about him. Like who are we to judge? I know totally.

Even when he goes to Israel and causes crap by the bucket load.
I know what we can do. We’ll curse Netanyahu. Yes damn you Netanyahu for being such a political hack push over and caving in.

Do we stand up to him. Hell no but we’re blaming you Netanyahu do you understand? Good. Because you’re a politician that’s supposed to be on our side an therefore a hypocrite. Do you understand? Good.
That’s settled now.

LaSarus Reducted on June 11, 2013 at 2:02 pm

I find it interesting to watch just who is coming down on the side of Barack Hussein Obama, the man who cannot utter the word Muslim terrorists but “violent extremists.” The man who says, “I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.” The man who says, “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.” He will protect our security. Debbie Schlussel has Obama’s back!

S. Klein on June 11, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    You should go back to Stormfront. What you are babbling will make sense there.

    Worry01 on June 11, 2013 at 4:55 pm

      Stormfront. Funny. Babbling? What are you talking about? Please explain.

      S. Klein on June 11, 2013 at 5:20 pm

        There is nothing funny about the bile spewed forth from storm front ,especially as most of it’s participants are US citizens .That is the type of filth that promotes anti semetic thought but are too gutless to shift their obese bodies away from the keyboard. If they were able to conmtrol the spread of the cultist followers of islam ,then maybe I would change my veiw. In the meantime,does the US spy agency follow them or promote them?

        Aron B on June 11, 2013 at 5:25 pm

          What is “funny” is that a Jew should go back to Stormfront.

          S. Klein on June 11, 2013 at 5:32 pm

I disagree with Debbie on this. The governments job is to govern , not spy on us. We had enough of this under the soviet union where even the babushka in the corridor would be feeding info about the residents in the apartment block. There is no difference between the OGPU,NKVD,KGB or todays secret police and the US government spying on it’s citizens and allies and keeping inforamtion. It has done no good with this info. If it had ,Lee Rigby would still be walking this earth .

Aron B on June 11, 2013 at 5:21 pm

    There are many Americans who believe, because Barack Hussein Obama is the democratically elected president of the United States, to go against Obama (to hurt him) is to go against or hurt America. Thus, Snowden is a traitor.

    I do not accept this view, but apparently that is what Debbie Schlussel and many other Americans believe.

    S. Klein on June 11, 2013 at 5:36 pm

Fox is reporting: “Justice Department officials consider charges against Edward Snowden…”

Since Debbie Schlussel is a brilliant and talented lawyer, maybe she can help Eric Holder craft charges against this traitor. No telling how much damage Snowden has already done to this regime.

S. Klein on June 11, 2013 at 5:30 pm

Not only is Snowden a hero, he is also very cute. A lethal combo. If he weren’t straight I’d totally hit on him :)

Titanic dude on June 11, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    Dumb.

    S. Klein on June 11, 2013 at 6:10 pm

    Td, I’m still waiting for anything intelligent from you. Not holding breath.

    skzion on June 12, 2013 at 9:53 am

    You are a total a-hole. Alot of young girls think the Boston bomber was cute too.

    Suddenly treason has become kosher on the right now that a democrat is in the White House.

    Laura on June 12, 2013 at 12:03 pm

      Our government is breaking the law and they aren’t following the constitution. If they are allowed to get away with this pretty soon they will be doing whatever they want, terrorizing the citizens like the Stasi did.

      marky212 on August 23, 2013 at 9:00 pm

“Rand Paul wrote a letter to the editor of the Wall Street Journal, in which he prayed for the constitutional rights of the “Arab American boys,” the Tsarnaevs”

Ha! What a freaking idiot.

DS_ROCKS! on June 11, 2013 at 7:16 pm

    Yeah DS and the idiot wants to be president someday. He’ll get my vote when hell freezes over.

    Ken b on June 11, 2013 at 7:31 pm

I have a feeling the whole thing about Snowden is theater. was there a planted question from the NSA?

General P. Malaise on June 11, 2013 at 10:01 pm

I wasn’t going to comment again, but after being forced to listen to the talk shows since I was in my car, I noticed that all they were talking about was the NSA surveillance. Meantime, the horrendous immigration bill will be discussed in the Senate, and the House seems committed to passing something, which in conference will wind up as the Obamabill. And they are just framing this as semi-opposition due to a change in the electorate. Virtually no discussion about how this bill will accelerate the erosion of whatever culture we have left.

Little Al on June 11, 2013 at 10:41 pm

Since the IRS scandal my trust in our Government has reached a new low. I don’t even trust the Postal Service let alone the NSA! Abolish them for all I care.

Brian on June 11, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    Abolish the NSA? And then when the next terrorist attack happens you will be among those that ask why didn’t they connect the dots after you gutted the program that tried to do just that.

    Laura on June 12, 2013 at 12:11 pm

I would just like to state the obvious.
If we had no muslims living in the west we would have no need for the patriot act or PRISM.
They are the Fifth Column living amongst us. They use stealth Jihad to weaken our laws, corrupt our culture and bite the hand that has been extended to offer them shelter, jobs and education. We offer them freedom from oppression. What do they do in return? They bite the hand that feeds them. They move to insinuate themselves into our system and bring about Sharia law. They bring about bullshit charges against trucking companies because they refuse to ship alcohol, a job they were hired to do and get out of court settlements instead of a pink slip . Welfare fraud, credit card scams, drug gangs sending profits to Hezbollah … And terror attacks..
Get rid of them.

Canadian Steve on June 11, 2013 at 11:20 pm

I agree that this Snowden guy isn’t a hero. Martin Luther King went to jail for his beliefs. Why doesn’t this guy have the courage of his convictions?

Ghostwriter on June 12, 2013 at 12:40 am

If Snowden lives a couple more weeks I’ll be very surprised, traitors like this guy deserve everything that is coming to him. Paranoia is going to run this idiot ragged.

Drakken on June 12, 2013 at 12:49 am

I disagree that Bush’s wiretapping was “far more invasive.” Invasive toward whom? Terrorists? Bush’s wiretapping was specifically aimed at terrorists and their networks. Very quickly it became apparent that terrorists’ networks didn’t consist of just one or two people that a warrant could specifically name in advance. If there can’t be flexibility in the following and monitoring of terrorists, then we will lose. “Warrantless” is and was the term critics loved to use to mis-categorize how our intelligence had to occasionally and quickly start monitoring someone who suddenly entered the terrorist-linked conversation and then who started communicating with someone else – if we wait to draw up papers to immediately follow that new person, we’ve lost critical info. While following the new trail and while actively wiretapping, then papers were drawn to officially warrant that new suspect – but to lose out on a new terrorist link and his/her communications with others related to the warranted tapping is plain silly and not suitable for war. Either it’s war, and we behave as such, or it’s a blue-collar crime that doesn’t involve life and death and we wait through all the drawing up of warrants so we may take our time and look into real estate fraud, or some other non-lethal, non-critical crime. EVERYONE in the U.S. wasn’t under a wiretap, which would have made Bush’s wiretapping far-more invasive, as you claim. It wasn’t far-more invasive, it was far-more targeted at murderous terrorists – and that is a fact. Targeting terrorists is good. That is why our pre-boarding airline procedures are a joke. We target everyone instead of profiling. We treat everyone like a would-be terrorist.

DK: Bush illegally tapped actual phone conversations of many Americans without a warrant (from the FISA Court or otherwise). That’s illegal, but I supported it, and the program withstood court challenge. This is not that. This is merely collecting phone number and e-mail addresses, usually where there is a foreign component. That’s legal. The Supreme Court has previously ruled that phone number collection is okay and that copying the addresses on every envelope mailed is legal. E-mails are the modern day envelopes. DS

Dina K on June 12, 2013 at 9:39 am

This data collections did not help the people of Boston on April 15, 2013. So how safe are we really? It should be stop! And it looks like everybody lies to Congress and gets away with it! So What I guess is your answer.

Nancy Perry on June 12, 2013 at 10:07 am

    How many other potential attacks were prevented? Many. Perhaps you think we can prevent terrorist attacks by using a crystal ball. I don’t recognize what passes for “conservatism” these days. Ronald Reagan was strong on national security. The paulbots have now taken over the conservative movement. As Debbie said, when the next terrorist attack occurs, the blood will be on the hands of the right as well as the left. You are willing to compromise national security for political expediency in going after Obama.

    Laura on June 12, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    You want to abolish the program because it isn’t 100% effective? How ridiculous. How many more attacks might have occurred without the prism program?

    Laura on June 12, 2013 at 12:24 pm

Debbie, it’s amazing to watch you deride the role of government in its efforts to flood countries with undesirables and alien culture, and manipulate policy in a way that only increases the role of government just so they can… wait for it…. flood the country even more and manipulate policy so they can increase their role and power, ad infinitum. Then you turn around and somehow want us to believe the beast you’ve just slayed and made out to be a monster is just some possibly misunderstood colossal who only had our best interest at heart. Which is it, Debbie?

What if the NSA agents in charge had Muslim-sounding names, and the whistleblower was some -stein guy? I’d be willing to bet your view and opinions on this ordeal would be one of righteous duty, and a story of a brave man shrugging off danger and persecution in an effort to inform his fellow citizens of the actual power the Government holds over its people. You know The People, right, Debbie? The Republicans are hypocrites, the Democrats are hypocrites, and you, Debbie, are a hypocrite. This warped sense of duty and rationale is a good reason why I have a hard time trusting Zionists like yourself.

Celestial Time on June 12, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    Debbie is not a hypocrite, but has been consistent on national security. Unlike most of the right. On the other hand Celestial, you are a hateful witch.

    Laura on June 12, 2013 at 12:51 pm

      National security for whom? You would have to be a bit insane or retarded to claim that the same government that purposely imports alien culture and puts in place politically correct mandates, laws and statutes would be a government to be trusted with the very tyrannical role of recording everything its citizens say and do just to save them from the things they, The Government, imported. You really do have to be batshit crazy to not see how quickly an already bad authoritarian government reaches critical mass of totalitarianism with this kind of power and carte blanche.

      Celestial Time on June 12, 2013 at 1:46 pm

        You certainly are a batshit crazy paulbot, black helicopter loon.

        Laura on June 12, 2013 at 4:56 pm

Sorry Debbie, but I disagree with you on Snowden. As far as I understand he has not revealed the names of American spies or CIA assets, he has not revealed the location of a secret Israeli defense facility, he did not reveal the Seal team which killed Bin Laden, he did not reveal the computer virus program used against Iran. So what harm was done by him revealing the extent of government snooping on its own citizens? And by the way. Were charges brought against those who were guilty of revealing the information I noted?

Jerry G on June 12, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    Snowden leaked classified material. He aided and abetted our enemies by doing so. That is treason in my book. End of story.

    And its funny that conservatives have not gone after Obama regarding those far more aggregious violations as you listed, but instead have chosen to go after him about drone strikes and the NSA, which are both legitimate national security operations.

    I know this is an antiquated view within conservative circles these days, but I actually fear jihadists more than the NSA.

    I remember when conservatism meant being strong on national defense.

    Laura on June 12, 2013 at 5:13 pm

Debbie…US National Security was jeopardized long before Snowden came on the scene. Every minute obama is on the throne, national security is at risk. Every minute bush was on the throne, national security was at risk. Every minute Bush1 and clinton were on the throne, national security was at risk. The business of the US government and its millions of “public servants” has become the selling of America. Public service has become a “pimping” service staffed by shameless pimps.

joesixpack31 on June 12, 2013 at 6:49 pm

“Introduction

In response to concerns that emerging technologies such as digital and wireless communications were making it increasingly difficult for law enforcement agencies to execute authorized surveillance, Congress enacted CALEA on October 25, 1994. CALEA requires a “telecommunications carrier,” as defined by the Act, to ensure that equipment, facilities, or services that allow a customer or subscriber to “originate, terminate, or direct communications,” enable law enforcement officials to conduct electronic surveillance pursuant to court order or other lawful authorization. CALEA was intended to preserve the ability of law enforcement agencies to conduct electronic surveillance by requiring that telecommunications carriers and manufacturers of telecommunications equipment modify and design their equipment, facilities, and services to ensure that they have the necessary surveillance capabilities as communications network technologies evolve. In May 2006, the FCC issued a Second Report and Order that required facilities-based broadband Internet access providers and providers of interconnected Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) service to come into compliance with CALEA obligations no later than May 14, 2007.

CALEA Compliance – Some Basic Information

Pursuant to CALEA, industry is generally responsible for setting CALEA standards and solutions. Unless a party files a special petition pursuant to CALEA section 107(b), the Commission does not get formally involved with the compliance standards development process. CALEA also does not provide for Commission review of manufacturer-developed solutions. Entities subject to CALEA are responsible for reviewing the Commission’s regulations and analyzing how this regulation applies per their specific network architecture.

A telecommunications carrier may comply with CALEA in different ways. First, the carrier may develop its own compliance solution for its unique network. Second, the carrier may purchase a compliance solution from vendors, including the manufacturers of the equipment it is using to provide service. Third, the carrier may purchase a compliance solution from a trusted third party (TPP). See CALEA Second Report and Order at para. 26. To contact TPPs, carriers may conduct an Internet search using such key words as “CALEA compliance” and “CALEA compliance help,” or any combination that will yield a display of TPPs.

Compliance Requires the Filing of System Security and Integrity (SSI) Plans

All telecommunications carriers, as defined by CALEA section 102(8), must file and maintain up-to-date System Security and Integrity (SSI) plans with the Commission, as those plans are described in 47 C.F.R. § 1.20005. This information collection has been approved by the Office of Management and Budget, control number 3060-0809, 77 FR 156 (2012). A sample SSI plan checklist is available online: CALEA Checklist 2013.


This data capture has been occurring since 1994. With the current GOP and Democrat’s, “history” only began after the 2000 election.
Funny thing, “Hackers” was playing on cable Wednesday.

Sick_Boy on June 13, 2013 at 3:45 am

The issue is murky and difficult, but two things come to mind.
When the issue of ‘workplace violence’ and ‘man caused terror’ are the ideological
presumptions, then this giant scooping up of everyone’s info: apparently ‘legal’ as DS the attorney pointed out, is the natural result. Rather than going after ‘muslims’ and the mosques where they all are trained to hear the voice of terrorism in some 80% of these houses of ‘worship’, and any other of the smaller numbers of people who profess love of destruction of the US, of free market economies and governments, and getting the info and tools to look for the obvious signs that turn humans into
slaughterers, then what is the benefit of a ‘security’ state mentality.
That’s what we’re speaking of here. Yes- Bush initiated this but I think he was pulled back and forced to get court orders when he pushed the issue, and I’ve read that he did comply. Here, we have the rise of the executively ordered security state by people who specifically got elected to do the opposite and instead- invented ‘workplace caused violence’ because they outlawed seeing anything inherently violent in the Qu’ran, Islam, and Mohammed. Thus, the FBI, CIA state dept. where not allowed to have anything in their training manuals hinting at anything Islamic as cause for concern.
It is a separate issue but one Jonathan pollard rots for some 26 yrs now in a lifetime
sentence for doing something illegal, for which most get about 3-5 yrs for his crime.
He gave info to the Israeli’s about that which directly effected their security and which we were by national agreements with Israel, supposed to provide to them, in return for them giving us all the info they had which is and was enormous about the other middle east nations and activities. But these bozos, who swapped out all this info they walk around currying political favor for their ‘bravery’.
I guess this was the ‘workplace violence’ that Obama so genuinely believes in.

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Snowden is a traitor – no debate about it. As a government employee with some knowledge in these matters, I can tell you that when you apply for a security clearance, you sign numerous papers stating that the knowledge you have exposure to is privileged, and that revealing it in any form is a violating of the law carrying jail time. He signed it, and he knew what the consequences were. He should suffer them. No matter what you think of the program, it is legal under FISA and Snowden knew that revealing it was illegal.

It sickens me that so-called conservatives are calling this guy a hero. If he really loves America so much, why did he speak to the Guardian, of all news sources -one of the most anti-American papers in the world? Why is he hiding out in a country controlled by China? Do people know what kind of spying and censorship China engages in on a regular basis. Why is he now telling China about how America spies on them? Surely that’s not knowledge that is going to help Americans.

My main problem with the spying is that it is a time-waster. If Obama and co would actually admit that we need to be focusing on Muslim communities, they wouldn’t need to waste valuable time and resources on the rest of America. However, putting that issue aside, Snowden is still a traitor.

As a side note, I don’t know how anyone could be snobby on his half? Didn’t this loser drop out of high school and the army, and not even attend college? His only snobbery cred are his douche hispter glasses.

Faye on June 17, 2013 at 7:35 am

    06/07/05/2013 A.D. edward joseph snowden is not now, never has been and never shall be a traitor, you have never met this man and you do not know anything about him whatsoever. he did the right thing by exposing the misdeeds being by our government.what if he is a high school dropout? that is no one elses business. he has never even set foot upon mainland chinese soil, he went to hong kong-which is an independent state with its own laws and currency. he is no more a loser than tom hanks, he has done this nation and the rest of the world a service by revealing what these elected leaders are up to-spying on law-abiding u.s. and european citizens alike,invasion of their right to total privacy. the real traitors are those upon or beyond capitol hill-HATS OFF TO EDDY!

    john christopher sutton on July 5, 2013 at 7:15 am

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