July 25, 2013, - 3:02 pm

HUH? Employers Object to E-Verify b/c It Weeds Out Illegal Aliens – Where NOT to Eat

By Debbie Schlussel

Today’s Wall Street Journal features a half-page article chock full of whining by employers that using the E-Verify system weeds out illegal aliens from their pool of potential employees. Um, isn’t that kinda the point of E-Verify? One of the employers even flat-out says that he doesn’t care if he’s hiring illegal aliens. Hey, at least he’s “honest.” You’ll hear a lot of this, whether or not amnesty becomes law. But it’s an attempt to stop the E-Verify component from going through with amnesty.

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Employers Whine About Having to Hire U.S. Citizens

The government is stopping us from hiring cheap, illegal alien labor. Boo-hoo. That’s the “substance” of the whining by such companies as Rocket Farm Restaurants, which would apparently rather sell America, Americans, and American jobs down the river than hire Americans and pay decent wages. Rocket Farm, by the way, is based in Atlanta and includes fancy, upscale JCT Kitch & Bar, No. 246, and The Optimist & Oyster Bar. Check out the sob fest of part owner and CFO Daniel VanLoh, who would rather hire Mohammed Atta as a dishwasher than do the right thing:

Since January, Daniel VanLoh has turned away nine new dishwashers and one line cook from his four Atlanta, Ga., restaurants within days of hiring them. The reason: Not one was authorized to work in the U.S., according to background checks he ran on the job applicants using a federal verification system, known as E-Verify. He says he’s now struggling to fill six openings, with some job seekers simply walking away after hearing that the company uses the free, Internet-based system to check their immigration status.






To date, Mr. Van Loh’s firm, Rocket Farm Restaurants LLC, has used the system to check 180 recruits. “It has significantly increased our recruiting costs,” he says. “We spend time and money recruiting and doing background checks on good candidates, and if the E-Verify comes back with a rejection, we have to start the process all over again.” Recruiting dishwashers is the most difficult. The jobs pay only $8 an hour, or 75 cents more than the federal minimum wage, and they involve a great deal of heavy lifting.

Translation: I can’t hire illegal aliens, and Americans won’t work for my substandard wages! Quick, somebody call the waaaahmbulance.

A close look at early E-Verify system users illustrates some of the challenges facing business owners who liked the old way—generally, simply asking job seekers to fill out federal paperwork, known as I-9 forms, and trusting that any proof of identity they provide is legitimate.

Specifically, since using the E-Verify system, many owners of small firms say it has become far more difficult to fill open positions. Others point out that using the system requires some employers to hire extra staff or upgrade computer equipment to manage the online process.

Um, yeah, because before E-Verify, employers who wanted to hire illegal aliens accepted any false ID, no matter how fake looking, and said, “You’re hired!” Now, they can no longer fall back on that fraud and must actually punch a name and social security number into a computer.

So sad, too bad.

This month, Georgia required small employers to screen applicants with the system, a move that extended existing requirements for larger firms. At least 15 other states, including Arizona, Mississippi and South Carolina, have enacted laws in recent years requiring at least some, if not all, employers to run E-Verify checks on job applicants before hiring them. The laws don’t require employers to check existing employees.

Scott Whitehead, who operates an Atlanta landscaping service, began using E-Verify July 1. Over the past three weeks, he says he hasn’t found a single authorized worker among more than 50 applicants at his metro area firm, Unlimited Landscaping & Turf Management Inc. “Every immigrant who walks through this door is illegal” according to the online check, says Mr. Whitehead, whose firm has more than 100 employees.

He says the checks are shrinking the pool of applicants he’s able to hire. As he struggles to fill openings, existing maintenance workers, most of whom he pays about $14 an hour, are demanding higher wages.

Here’s a tip: charge more for landscaping and pay Americans decent wages.

The system is also bringing anxieties about productivity, he says. To avoid running afoul of the new Georgia law, Mr. Whitehead plans to hire only U.S. citizens who clear the system, even though, in landscaping, he has found that immigrant workers are generally more productive.

Yup, that’s the ticket–Americans suck. Memo to self: don’t hire Scott Whitehead to fix my front lawn (if I had one).

Golden Corral franchisee Billy Sewell says he used to get an average of 25 to 50 job applications a week for positions at each of his 13 restaurants in North Carolina. Since October 2012, when he began using the system as now required by state law, he has received only about 10 applications a week per location. So far, Mr. Sewell has turned away roughly 300 applicants.

“There needs to be better immigration reform because we’re not allowed to hire good, valuable people who want to work,” says Mr. Sewell, who altogether owns 28 Golden Corral restaurants in six states.

Translation: I gotta hire those damn ‘mericans.

Mr. Sewell realizes that under the paper system, he might be hiring some undocumented immigrants, but he doesn’t care as long as he’s doing what he’s required to do under the law.

Yup, who cares about America’s borders or national security, right? Whatta schmuck.

According to immigration agency guidelines, employers are responsible for ensuring that documents “reasonably appear to be genuine.” Mr. Sewell, for one, admits that it can be difficult to tell whether documents are legitimate, though he adds that it’s just as hard to ensure that customers are providing real proof that they’re old enough to order alcohol.

Yup, let’s compare securing the borders to an underaged kid trying to buy beer. ‘Cuz it’s exactly the same thing, right?

Well, at least there’s one decent small business owner in this lousy bunch:

Florida builder Greg DeJohn says he uses the system voluntarily because he needs to show Wal-Mart Stores Inc. and other big clients that he takes extra steps to ensure they aren’t indirectly supporting illegal labor. “It’s a way of showing corporate clients that we’re using best practices,” he says. “It’s a matter of conducting good business.”

Even if he’s only doing it for his bottom line, at least he’s doing the right thing.

As for the rest, they couldn’t care less about you or your security and safety from illegal aliens, so long as cheap dishwashers and gardeners help their bottom lines.

Lenin was right when he said capitalists would “sell us the rope” on which they would be hanged.

Cha-ching.

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31 Responses

Q: WTF has happened to this country? A: Filthy baby-boomers/former hippies are now in charge. The lunatics are running the asylum.

DS_ROCKS! on July 25, 2013 at 3:11 pm

Its starts real slow and soon one day most companies of every category will shy away from American employees for illegals, its cheaper and they don’t have to worry about Obamacare.

MANGOG on July 25, 2013 at 3:48 pm

Of course, they could go back to hiring the people who used to do these no skilled entry level jobs- teenagers.

Too bad most of them are spoiled ignorant brats, who get handed cars and iphones by Daddy, and whose English skills are comparable to those of illegal aliens, thanks to all that worthless “texting” crap.

Frak on July 25, 2013 at 3:59 pm

There are lots of options for companies like this. In our community, we have halfway houses that are always looking for places willing to hire their (inmates) clients as a way to help them with their rehabilitation process. The majority of these men and women are really wanting to get their lives back on track and want a job. These are non-violent offenders and are given drug test every week to make sure they are not drug uses. Also we have several homes for women who have left abusive relationships and need jobs to support their children. Another source our “disabled” community. These wonderful people are hard workers and truly want a chance to support themselves and live independently. These are just the resources I have thought of in the last few minutes. These employers need to realize they can hire “American” citizens and stay within their salary caps and by doing so, they provide a great service to our communities. They also give people a chance to rebuild their lives.

MAMiller on July 25, 2013 at 4:14 pm

As taxes rise, the underground economy will grow. Greece has been noted for having a huge underground economy. Where I am, I’m told taxi cab drivers rent their cabs and never report their earnings, or file income tax returns.

I have a renter who may well be illegal, I have no idea if he is. He often pays his rent in small bills.

Dale Zalaoras on July 25, 2013 at 4:48 pm

Just as big an issue are H1B visas flooding the STEM (Sci, Tech, Engrg, Math) market w/ low paid immigrants happy to leave their shithole countries (India, China). I’m a software engineer w/ 30 years of hardcore development experience. My resume shows I’ve got the chops. But the job market here in the Bay Area is completely flooded w/ H1B’s. My salary/rates have been declining for 13 years. Out of the last 22 months, I’ve worked 6.

JD on July 25, 2013 at 5:00 pm

    Yes, JD. And the Chinese, at least, include plenty of spies.

    skzion on July 25, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    Unsolicited advice: computer security and computer maintenance positions for the Feds require you to be a US citizen and these functions are not likely to leave the US (although I have seen computer design out-sourced to E. Europe for techies reporting to a contractor).

    Plona on July 28, 2013 at 10:19 pm

I’ve never been in favor of untrammeled capitalism as so many libertarians and conservatives apparently are. Making a profit takes a back seat to upholding our national sovereignty, preserving our values and taking care of our fellow Americans. I’m for socially responsible and patriotic free enterprise.

There are business people in America who couldn’t care about the fate of the country and the people who buy from them. And I will make my personal business not to patronize them. When they don’t care about us, I see no reason to care about them!

Here’s a tip they might want to reflect on – for me keeping America a free country comes before their freedom to make money and flout the federal law. If they find America a burden, perhaps its high time they lived elsewhere. Like the old true and trite saying I’m fond of has it, “love it or leave it.”

There is no middle ground and I could care less if their frustration over e-verify is keeping them awake at nights. At least it keeps people honest which is more than can be said for this whining and sniveling bunch all upset they can’t screw America over and oh cry me river for their lack of interest in the putting the country’s good first – which is what every American should do. If that’s too much to ask for, this country won’t be long for this world.

NormanF on July 25, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    “I’ve never been in favor of untrammeled capitalism as so many libertarians and conservatives apparently are. Making a profit takes a back seat to upholding our national sovereignty, preserving our values and taking care of our fellow Americans. I’m for socially responsible and patriotic free enterprise.”

    Norman, “open borders” would be “untrammeled capitalism” if businesses didn’t manage to use the illegal aliens for cheap labor and shift the various costs of these aliens onto taxpayers. Even the so-called educated visa owners manage to bring in their whole typically uneducated extended family, then disappear.

    But really, as I see it, the merit of capitalism is that it makes freedom possible for the mass and rationally facilitates wealth. While free trade is, arguably, necessary in capitalism, letting in riffraff is not. Comparative advantage is the not the same as open borders.

    Government has responsibilities that will not be performed by markets. Maintaining borders is one of them.

    skzion on July 25, 2013 at 8:58 pm

This crap is also true of the H1-B visa system too. American engineers and technicians cost too much, so tech companies need to hire cheap labor to compete. Total bullshit.

LiberalJooozRStupid on July 25, 2013 at 6:24 pm

    This is so true especially here in Silicon Valley. I have a few friends that either can not get a job in their IT field or if offered a job, it is usually a low wage compared to the years of experieince they have. I used to believe 100% of many hi tech companies complaining about “not enough American engineers/scientists graduating from college” talk. I still think it maybe more in line with 50% but the other 50% is about getting cheap engineers and scientists from India, South Korea, China, and Russia and that’s why the big push for the increase of H1-B visas issuance.

    Like my friend that took the low paying it job, he has to supplement his income with another job outside his field as a barrista for Starbucks. He tells me if he knew he would be competeing with lower wages from foreign workers he might have decided to study another field. He thought low wages were set up for low skilled/no skill workers but seems even his high skilled job is up for grabs.

    Mario on July 26, 2013 at 3:11 am

As Milton Friedman once said, “You cannot serve two G-ds”.

ty for the abedin i been missing db on July 25, 2013 at 7:59 pm

This federal verification system has been in effect for well over a decade and these bitch-ass business owners are just now getting around to using them. I wonder how much their net (loss) profit increased by using the illegal Mexican since the beginning of time?

Just so you know, for the hypocrites that post on this board and then run to a fast food establishment or restaurant that uses illegals, then you must know that, as a general rule, that Mexicans do not wash their hands after going to the lavatory.

AR on July 25, 2013 at 10:33 pm

Of course employers would like to rely on the I-9 versus E-verify. That way they can say “What the hay? I’m not an immigration officer”. Heck, most of the slug “Special” agents that hink around this website like to say the same thing.
Citizenship seems to have lost it’s meaning in our society. This country is toast.
Ask not what you may do for your country; ask, why can’t we all just sneak into our neighbor’s country and take what we please?

nadie on July 25, 2013 at 10:46 pm

@ ‘NormanF on July 25, 2013 at 5:01 pm’ I couldn’t agree more. As Debbie stated: “Here’s a tip: charge more for landscaping and pay Americans decent wages”.
Plus, we wouldn’t have so many corrupt Unions because there would have been no need for them if it weren’t for greedy Capitalists.

I think this law should go further and require employers to keep tighter records of all the job applicants and have them report the ones that do not pass verification.

theShadow on July 26, 2013 at 12:08 am

Just a couple of examples and hundreds of rejections. Guessing there are more than 11 million more of them hanging around. Now where are all the actual Americans? With the economy the way it is not everyone is riding the gravy train. Youth unemployment is sky high and college grad unemployment is over 50%. Mom’s basements everywhere must be really crowded.

Ender on July 26, 2013 at 12:21 am

I find it hard to have any sympathy for such employers. Their complaints tell me that they cannot run their businesses legitimately.

Worry01 on July 26, 2013 at 12:54 am

The first thing to know about illegal aliens is … YOU BROKE INTO OUR HOME. You .. broke .. into .. our .. national .. home!

YOU BROKE INTO OUR HOME

Jack on July 26, 2013 at 1:21 am

e-Verify should be automatically required – end of discussion. Anybody who fails such a test should be up for instant deportation.

Infidel on July 26, 2013 at 4:52 am

if you want Mexican workers open a business in Mexico.

…but be prepared to jump through lots of hoops since they restrict foreign workers. They are pro-Mexican all the way.

General P. Malaise on July 26, 2013 at 6:14 am

    Funny how that works, isn’t it? Same goes for the anchor babies – according to Mexico they are Mexican citizens, not American, yet we see these people crying they were born here! Well, they weren’t born to citizens, so no – they aren’t Americans. Only in America.

    LiberTEA Patriot on July 26, 2013 at 10:52 pm

Yikes the government run E-Verify system works! This is news.

Sometimes I think DS is brilliant and other times I think she sees what there is to be seen and reminds us that the emperor has no clothes.

DS remains not only indispensable but endlessly engaging.

bobguzzardi on July 26, 2013 at 10:53 am

    Mr. Guzzardi,
    I appreciate the articles here as much ones you’ve written as well. The usual b.s. that is shoved down our throats by people who have a vested interest in this supposed “debate” has almost caused me to lose my gag reflex.
    If it is true that E-verify is correct ninety some-odd percent of the time, then that would make it one of the most efficient things the government does.

    nadie on July 26, 2013 at 4:20 pm

I figure we may have 20 years left before we officially reach Third World status.

Secession and starting over is likely the only answer.

8 Mile Road on July 26, 2013 at 11:17 am

While I do not approve of illegally entering this country, I hope this E-Verify does not negatively impact our diversity.

Papa Whiskey on July 26, 2013 at 11:54 am

    Our nation isn’t governed by “diversity”; it’s governed by laws. If mandatory use of E-Verify weakens ethno-racial diversity, then too bad. Prostrating ourselves before the altar of diversity is what lies at the source of the immigration problem.

    Seek on July 26, 2013 at 12:10 pm

    What are you talking about? Diversity? This country has absorbed every wretched slug from the planet–I believe more than 100 million and counting, and you are going to talk about diversity. Don’t you see every F–king sign and government literature in every conceivable language except English? Don’t you see entire cities decimated by certain ethnic minorities?

    AR on July 26, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Diversity, what a pretty sounding concept! Should call it homogenization instead ’cause all it means is losing your individuality and identity as a Nation and people. Sure you want us to be like the rest of this sad, sad world? Just another 3’rd (pronounced ‘turd’) world Country?
    BTW, there is a difference between the two: Nation and Country.

    theShadow on July 26, 2013 at 5:52 pm

What is all this talk about diversity? It is a felony, punishable by up to 5 years in jail, to aid and abet an illegal alien. Sounds like some of these employers might need to go to jail.

LiberTEA Patriot on July 26, 2013 at 10:43 pm

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