December 6, 2013, - 3:22 pm

Nelson Mandela Said WHAT?!

By Debbie Schlussel

If there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America. They don’t care for human beings.

If you look at those matters, you will come to the conclusion that the attitude of the United States of America is a threat to world peace.

–Nelson Mandela

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I already told you what a scumbag, anti-White racist, Islamic terrorist lovin’, Jew-hating creature Nelson Mandela was. But to further your education, for all the ignorami gushing over Nelson Mandela–including President George W. Bush (stick with painting, dude), Senator Ted Cruz, Sean Hannity, and his coming replacement Michael Savage (who, last night, called Mandela a “peacemaker” on his nationally syndicated radio show)–apparently they simply cannot do the tiniest bit of homework, which includes checking out this famous quote from Mandela about America (the country without which he’d never have been freed)–yes it bears repeating:

“If there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America. They don’t care for human beings.”

And here are some other Mandela “gems”:










* There is no doubt that the United States now feels that they are the only superpower in the world and they can do what they like.

* We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians.

That one’s interesting since Mandela said this against Israel, but the Palestinians–the few of them who are citizens of Israel–are actually more free under Israel than any other country. They do not have freedom in Gaza, the Palestinian Authority, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Kuwait, and everywhere else where they live in significant numbers.

* If the United States of America or Britain is having elections, they don’t ask for observers from Africa or from Asia. But when we have elections, they want observers.

Hmmm . . . gee, I wonder why they need “observers” for South African elections. I mean, nothing is ever stolen in that country based on race, right? Like nationalized White farmland and so on.

And here’s a tip: we do want observers at certain election polling places in America because voters are harassed and violently threatened by Mandela’s fans in the New Black Panther Party here. Sadly, Mandela’s superfan, Barack Hussein Obama, refuses to prosecute them.

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A true saint.

Darrell L. Hicks on December 6, 2013 at 5:48 pm

The new scarlet letter is “R” for “racist” and conservatives will do and say anything to show that they are colorblind, even to the point of heaping praise on a repulsive dung-pile such is Mandela.

DS_ROCKS! on December 6, 2013 at 5:49 pm

Mandela an Anti white Racist? Really? Really? After all he endured Really? I suppose he is suppose to love white folks, Really? Come on. All this rebuke is silly. I don’t believe all these people are wrong, he may said a few foolish things, but no way should this man be disparaged, especially in death, in my opinion. Scumbag? That’s harsh.

Big D on December 6, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    SAID? How about DONE?

    Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. He had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilizing terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children were killed.
    Source: The State v. Nelson Mandela et al, Supreme Court of South Africa, Transvaal Provincial Division, 1963-1964, Indictment.

    THE ANC’S VICTIMS WERE MOSTLY CIVILIANS:
    1981 – 2 car bombs at Durban showrooms
    1983 – Church Street Bomb (killed 19, wounded 217)
    1984 – Durban car bomb (killed 5, wounded 27)
    1985-1987 – At least 150 landmines on farm roads (killed 125)
    1985 – Amanzimtoti Sanlam shopping centre bomb Dec 23 (killed 2 white women and 3 white children)
    1986 – Magoo’s Bar bomb (killed 3, wounded 69)
    1986 – Newcastle Court bomb (wounded 24)
    1987 – Johannesburg Court bomb (killed 3, wounded 10)
    1987 – Wits command centre car bomb (killed 1, wounded 68)
    1988 – Johannesburg video arcade (killed 1 unborn baby, wounded 10)
    1988 – Roodepoort bank bomb (killed 4, wounded 18)
    1988 – Pretoria Police housing unit, 2 bombs (wounded 3)
    1988 – Magistrate’s Court bomb (killed 3)
    1988 – Benoni Wimpy Bar bomb (killed 1, wounded 56)
    1988 – Witbank shopping centre bomb (killed 2, wounded 42)
    1988 – Ellis Park Rugby Stadium car bomb (killed 2, wounded 37)
    Late 1980s – numerous Wimpy Restaurant bombs (killed many, wounded many)

    The ANC also made explosives disguised as children’s toys. Apartheid was wrong, but Mandela was a violent, Marxist, terrorist.
    And what about the murderous “necklacing” that Mr. & Mrs. Mandela condoned? In case you dont know what that is Big D…its securing your brothers and sisters to a tire and burning them alive.

    I dont think Mandela’s soul flew into the arms of the Almighty, do you?

    esther on December 9, 2013 at 6:25 pm

James Baker (former Sec. of State for G. H. W. Bush) was on Fox and Friends this morning fawning all over the nice Mr. Mandela. He, Mr. Baker, flat out stated that Mandela was a communist but, by golly, he was a nice fellow.

Heck, Castro was a communist who wanted support and fawning from the US too. We turned him down though – when we still had a foreign policy worth anything.

It’s kind of interesting to read snippets of news coming out of South Africa since the nice Mr. Mandela left office. The African National Congress (the ANC) is pretty much like our current Democrat Party – the ANC is just a little more violent and want land grabs a lot like those that have been going on in Zimbabwe.

Ruckus_Tom on December 6, 2013 at 7:15 pm

Yup, still a peace maker compared to some.
His wife for instance was a real fire cracker, he divorced her but that’s another story.
Seems a young black kid disappeared in mysterious circumstances.

Maybe he was getting on a bit by the time he made these statements. He certainly didn’t need to come up with them on his own. They’re standard leftist chants.

Frankz on December 6, 2013 at 7:28 pm

I always thought he needed some holy water to sprinkle on heads of state.

Frankz on December 6, 2013 at 7:32 pm

Never knew he had said those things until now! How could Jimmuh Cahter and Billy-Boy Clinton have given him a pass on these quotes?

Lisa on December 6, 2013 at 7:41 pm

“We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians.”

whats wrong with this statement?

LOL!!

AA on December 6, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    “’We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians.’

    whats wrong with this statement?”

    Debbie had already answered that question, AA, but here it is again.

    From Debbie’s post above:

    “That one’s interesting since Mandela said this against Israel, but the Palestinians–the few of them who are citizens of Israel–are actually more free under Israel than any other country. They do not have freedom in Gaza, the Palestinian Authority, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Kuwait, and everywhere else where they live in significant numbers.”

    JeffE on December 8, 2013 at 5:08 pm

      > They do not have freedom in Gaza, the Palestinian Authority, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Kuwait, and everywhere else where they live in significant numbers.
      Maybe because in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Kuwait, and everywhere else where they live in significant numbers they are REFUGEES not citizens. Duh! And they DO have more freedom in Gaza and the West Bank. Ostensibly they can vote in Israel but that would require that they apply for citizenship and thus recognise Israel’s annexation of East Jerusalem for example. In any case, comparing Israel to other ME countries is always going to make Israel look more progressive. How about comparing Israel to some other countries? And how about giving Palestinians a choice to NOT live under repression and occupation and then we’ll see what rights/freedom they have?

      Stan on December 9, 2013 at 6:45 pm

the quotes are pretty despicable

Frankz on December 6, 2013 at 8:05 pm

“Even though it had always been denied, the ANC and the SACP (South African Communist Party) confirmed that Mr Mandela had served on the party’s central executive committee in their statements paying tribute to the antiapartheid icon. There had been much debate about the issue among historians and academics.”

“At the time Mandela was released from prison the Soviet Union was crumbling and there was “too much negativity around the Soviet system”, Mr Mapaila said.

“But we should not focus on that now, let us focus on resting the old man,” he said.

(People are only focusing on it because they just released it :P)

http://www.bdlive.co.za/national/politics/2013/12/06/sacp-confirms-nelson-mandela-was-a-member

Frankz on December 6, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    Surprisingly enough even NPR has mentioned that he was in the communist party.

    pete on December 7, 2013 at 12:32 pm

      No it isn’t surprising, this is the best time to bury that particular piece of news. Why do you think they waited till now to release it?

      Frankz on December 7, 2013 at 1:46 pm

And you can bet all those Mandela quotes will have been completely ignored and disregarded in that “biopic” of him. (Which, of course, I’ll skip like the plague.)

ConcernedPatriot on December 6, 2013 at 8:20 pm

Oh, oh, oh!!! Forgot. Then I had to leave, after I heard it. Listening to Rush earlier today, and yes, he kissed the Mandela tuchus also. But he did so with a bit of perspective, chiding the media for making Mandela worship the narrative. Rush was having his Open Line Friday, and doing his best to actually avoid having a show about Mandela, which he did nicely.

So, Debbie, and all on board. During one of the top of the hour news breaks, a report was read that says a new school will open in Brooklyn next year, bearing the Mandela name.

Let the idol worship begin!!! And all the flawed education and journalism that will result.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on December 6, 2013 at 9:15 pm

    “…During one of the top of the hour news breaks, a report was read that says a new school will open in Brooklyn next year, bearing the Mandela name.”

    No, no. Can’t be so! You must’ve heard it wrong, Alfredo. With all the Mandela wall-to-wall media saturation it’s understandable how you may have heard, “Nelson Mandela to be honored with a school named for him in Brooklyn; more likely it’s Larry Mondelo to be so honored–at long last!

    lee of the lower case "l" on December 6, 2013 at 10:43 pm

      ROTFLMAO!!! Well, the Larry Mondello School would be better than the Lumpy Rutherford School, LOL!!!

      Alfredo from Puerto Rico on December 7, 2013 at 10:15 am

    One plus for Rush, he did call Mandela a Commie. Still, he did it like he was walking a tightrope, and didn’t want to fall on either side of the fence.

    theShadow on December 6, 2013 at 10:58 pm

      Yes he did, tightroped it all the way through Open Line Friday, and that’s a stretch for a guy built like him. He emulated the Flying Wallendas very well yesterday. Except of course, for that last moment Karl Wallenda had in the land of my forefathers.

      Alfredo from Puerto Rico on December 7, 2013 at 10:18 am

“If there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America. They don’t care for human beings.”

To be fair, that was back before the Mooch was proud of us. We’ve changed, though we’re all still horrible racists.

“There is no doubt that the United States now feels that they are the only superpower in the world and they can do what they like.”

Huh. The Russian opposition call Putin a thief, but I never knew his NYT op-ed was plagiarized….

“If the United States of America or Britain is having elections, they don’t ask for observers from Africa or from Asia. But when we have elections, they want observers.”

Again, an outdated quote. There was a time when this was a fair gripe, but we’ve since learned how to hold fraudulent elections efficiently enough that we don’t need assistance from outside thugs. Between the big unions and the Black Panthers our domestic thugs have it all under control.

“We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians.”

Well uh… wow… that’s just too stupid to mock. I can only leave it there and let it be horrible by itself.

Brian R. on December 6, 2013 at 9:54 pm

Debbie Downer what time is it?

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yep yur ryt. midnyt

BigBalzMcGillicuddy on December 6, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    Big, do you normally spout incoherent nonsense when posting on blogs? You sound like you downed a bottle of Thunderbird before coming here.

    worry01 on December 6, 2013 at 10:51 pm

      jus tryun to fit in.

      BigBalzMcGillicuddy on December 6, 2013 at 11:00 pm

        Well BigBlobMcGillicruddy, you’d have to cut yerself in two to fit.

        Jimbo on December 9, 2013 at 8:42 pm

      Worry, this is just that sad bore a few weeks back who said he had big privates. He also loves to use my handle in his many handles. Just ignore him. He’s mentally ill and twice as stupid.

      He can’t break the argument and so he makes 15 year old dorky boy jokes that dorks won’t even laugh at. He wants attention and that’s the last thing he should get. Ignore him because I sure am (but it is funny how much I annoy him, I must admit…)

      Skunky on December 6, 2013 at 11:49 pm

        And,worry01 & Skunky: I must admit I’m hoping that certain someone–or someTHING– drinks himself out of a liver before he strikes (out), again.

        lee of the lower case "l" on December 7, 2013 at 12:22 am

          lee of the lowercase elllll.

          You should pray for alcohol poisoning rather that liver failure. If you wait until I have cirrhosis it will be at least another eight years. Then another five until total failure. Chances are, I’ll get a nice pink liver, presumable from some fine christian or jew who never drank or smoke. Just like Larry Hagman, I’ll live for several year after the transplant.

          But poisoning? That could happen tonight.

          8th Grade Master Debater - Liverless Underling of the Libtard Overlords on December 7, 2013 at 8:00 pm

        Matok Skunky,

        Why you be this way, eh? McGuillicuddy sounds like a nice boy. You go out. Have fun. Maybe even like him.

        8th Grade Master Debater - Underling of the Libtard Overlords on December 7, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Little D, Miss Debbie generally will be more informed on this than most of us. I’m sure she is speaking the truth. Sometimes it’s hard, or dissapointing to find out the truth, but we need to deal with it. Better to know the truth and be upset than believe a lie and think all is well.

    William on December 7, 2013 at 9:41 am

Nelson Mendela does have some sort of point. We live in a country that doesn’t care out the next person. We only care about ourselves and the funny thing is that we call ourselves a “Christian country.” Yeah, right. I have never seen so much ignorance and HATE from Christians. It is upsetting and I feel ashamed that some of these hateful right-wingers give the Christian culture a bad reputation. Whatever happened to “love thy neighbor” and help the poor. I don’t handouts, but true efforts to help the poor sustain themselves and not having big corporations steal from the American people.

Patrick on December 6, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    We live in a country where ‘Patrick’ doesn’t proof-read his message.
    “big corporations steal from the American people”
    How about the so called poor get a job at one of these big corporations so they don’t have to steal from us middle class people. Love thy neighbor includes those that support you too.
    Give me a freakin’ break and get yourself a job instead of living off my money. I’m sick and tired of supporting your ‘poor’. I’ve got my own to support.

    theShadow on December 6, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    Tell it like it is Patrick … “I don’t handouts, but true efforts to “

    Ruckus_Tom on December 7, 2013 at 12:52 am

    ah, the so-called Christians! Jesus really wouldn’t have approved of them. Anyway, I’m an atheist with more Christian values than many Christians! Like Ron Paul says, follow the Golden Rule: Do unto others….. There is another good rule/guideline: injure no-one. These two cover compassion and justice which are the foundations of morality.

    Stan on December 9, 2013 at 7:34 pm

keep shining the light on these despicable people.

regards

General P. Malaise on December 6, 2013 at 10:56 pm

I know Savage will be getting a much larger audience when he gets the drive-time slot and he is making a classic mistake — trying to pander to the left-center instead of staying with what made him a success. Schmuck.

dillweed on December 6, 2013 at 11:14 pm

    dillweed, I don’t know what you see in Savage. The guy just seems loony to me.

    skzion on December 9, 2013 at 8:37 pm

This really pi**es me off. The masses are starving for a real traditionally tell-it-like-it-is conservative voice. Schmendrick.

dillweed on December 6, 2013 at 11:18 pm

Rot in Hell, Nelson Mandela.

Bob on December 6, 2013 at 11:40 pm

A question: The atrocities Mandela suffered while in prison, have these been proven? If the apartheid really wanted to get rid of him why wasn’t he dead 30 years ago? He could have easily died of some sickness or other alleged circumstances. He could have been easily “liquidated” many years ago under a true dictatorship. Why was he allowed to survive, unless he was a genuine criminal?

theShadow on December 6, 2013 at 11:48 pm

Ahhhhhh yes, here we are, approaching midnight on a Friday, and The Trolls Come Out At Night. And although I believe in the same God Debbie does, she is observing the Sabbath in a more righteous fashion than I. Because Debbie is praying by candlelight, and I am watching her web site like a starved owl staring in to the blackness of the forest, trying to catch a rat to eat. And I also am watching an episode of Murder, She Wrote.

No folks, I believe in Sabbath observance, and I believe Jesus is Lord and coming soon, but I do NOT believe that there is anything special about me. Whoever is reading this, look down at the bottom of your shoe. I am less than whatever is on it, an insignificant piece of less than nothing in this universe. The visage in my mirror brings to mind descriptions such as “pathetic loser” and “deadbeat.”

But here, at Debbie Schlussel Dot (Not So) Calm, I AM . . .

The Resident Dumb Blond(e), The Great Dumboni.

SO, I have seen that we have trolls circling, and boy, are they fun!!! Interesting things going on, and it appears one of the pair I see circling now appears to have been drinking. Hope he’s at home and not driving.

And not really knowing if the trolls on the approach are Traditional Male or Female, LGBT or Pork Fried Rice, I cannot really tell whether he, she, it, whatever. But proceeding to address the troll factor, and anything else of the errant nature that may rear its ugly head tonight, . . .

There is this.

In south central northeastern west Nepal, there was a tribe called the Moktellobai (pronounced mawk-tell-oh-by). They have a saying; Wheklo murreeyabhelo maha mahani oklehmatah webmathano urdhakli myot ehblehtami ardofo menoblehmeh ooklahmani ehblehtamghat.

In ancient times it meant, “A cow fell from the mountain, and we will have no milk until our brethren in the village below bring a new one.”

Today, among the relatively few Moktellobai left, it means “if Bob Hayes had the lightweight special design shoes and Mondo surfaces, he could have smoked today’s sprinters, with perhaps very few exceptions.”

So there, you see it’s all nice now. I have imparted wisdom in the spirit of peace to you trolls, and you may take it back to where you came from and spread the education. I trust you will understand. The Lord bless and provide for you all.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on December 6, 2013 at 11:59 pm

When the “world” sings your praise, you’ve done their bidding. The “world” loves a Anti-White radical, especially if they are Anti-American. mandela is not resting in peace.

William on December 7, 2013 at 9:56 am

I was in South Africa during the time this piece of trash was in prison. What the new casters dont tell you is that he was running the ANC out of his jail cell. And this includes the marxist version of toys for tots. Explosives in the toys to picked up by little children. I look forward to a finally war in South Africa and the demise of the bantu. 40% unemployment and thousand of rapes every single year. When I first went to South Africa it was a ordered and good nation. Under the marxist’s it is ripe for a revolution.

Jonathan Gartner on December 7, 2013 at 10:10 am

Given the comments above, I presume mainly by Americans, seems Mandela was right about the lack of humanity. Startling.

John Anderson on December 7, 2013 at 10:56 am

    Takes two to tango as you libs love to say John.
    Startling how facile you guys can be.

    Frankz on December 7, 2013 at 12:44 pm

I wonder how Debbie would feel if a group of Muslims went into Israel and began repressing, segregating, and brutalizing the majority Jewish population ( qhich they would do if they could)? Would leaders of the Jewish resistance be labeled “terrorist” for their violence against such a repressive regime?

Debbie has a lot to say about Nelson Mandela”s quotes and his associations with some pretty vile characters on the world stage. But she has mentioned NOTHING regarding the quotes of leaders of the Apartheid regime and their close associates (including Israel). No word from Debbie on the horrific regime and circumstances that led to a Nelson Mandela. Bottom line: No Apartheid, no Mandela. So if you condemn him, condemn THEM.

DonQ on December 7, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    DonQ, it is a fool like YOU who believe that those speaking the TRUTH about Mandela are NOT also condemning Apartheid.

    Your premise is rejected right out of the box. Fail.

    Please try harder. Your brain is NOT up to capacity.

    Skunky on December 7, 2013 at 1:21 pm

      LOL Skunky. I think DonQ is actually functioning at full capacity. Full libtard capacity that is.

      Frankz on December 7, 2013 at 1:33 pm

        Any alleged adult who uses the word “libtard” in a debate is giving people a very good indication of their intellectual capacity….or lack of.

        DonQ on December 8, 2013 at 11:35 pm

          Donkey, “libtard” is a precise technical term arrived after observing types like you repeatedly.

          Libards are liberals, yes. But they are liberals who sneeringly think they are superior in mind and knowledge while being (manifestly) follow-the-lead dummies.

          skzion on December 10, 2013 at 1:05 pm

    Following this idiot logic Don Quixote,
    Israel was forced to do business with the regime because it was isolated by dim bulbs like you.
    No dim bulb leftist sentimentalists, no Apartheid regime.

    But then what would you use to give yourselves a false sense of humanist superiority?

    Frankz on December 7, 2013 at 1:24 pm

      Frankz, you really need to start writing books, because your revisionist history would top anything Harry Turtledove ever wrote!

      DonQ on December 8, 2013 at 11:30 pm

    Oh yeah, right. We’ve seen now what has happened WITHOUT apartheid. Murder, rapes, 3rd world economy, and people struggling to get out of that hell hole. Right. You Leftist utopians who understand nothing about people make me sick. Absolutely no difference between a European and a person from New Guinea, right? Completely equivalent and interchangeable, right? Dumbass…

    WJM on December 7, 2013 at 1:49 pm

Yes WJM, and I know people with your mindset (Nazis, Taliban, etc.) always seem to come to power under the guise of “establishing order”.

DonQ on December 7, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    They generally come to power after leftists succeed in creating so much disorder/chaos/revolution that people decide they can’t really be so bad in comparison to the alternative.
    Generally they are correct. Communist Stalin vs fascist Hitler. Not much to choose really.

    How can you effectively redistribute wealth without promising a new order? You can’t can you Don Quixote?

    Frankz on December 7, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    Forever chasing windmills

    Frankz on December 7, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    You mean like Obama-Putin, DonQ?

    You mentioned the Nazis and the Taliban. Two fascist groups the followers of this blog REJECT.

    Failing all over the place, windmill-chaser.

    Skunky on December 7, 2013 at 4:01 pm

      FrankZ, I used windmill-chaser before I saw what you wrote. LOL!

      We must be on the same page with The Man From LaMancha…

      Skunky on December 7, 2013 at 4:04 pm

        I can’t quite get behind calling the moron Donkey Q “Don Quixote.” The latter was, after all, despite his buffoonery, an antihero. Donkey Q is just a generic libtard.

        skzion on December 10, 2013 at 1:10 pm

Ahhhhhhhhh, DonQ, welcome. Senor, allow me to introduce myself. I AM . . .

The Great Dumboni. And with my pointed dunce cap, chopstick as “magic wand” and rice pilaf as “crystal ball,” I will now divine the secret of your logic. Although my colleagues here at Debbie Schlussel Dot (Not So) Calm have accurately pinpointed CERTAIN things, they have failed in one regard. They openly wondered about your logic, and did not state the TRUE answer to the burning question.

I, The Resident Dumb Blond(e), without the wisdom, knowledge or intelligence to discern whether or not it is “Chicken or Fish,” hereby for the benefit of ALL, do divine that DonQ is operating with . . .

120 proof logic.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on December 7, 2013 at 3:40 pm

I can speak volumes about South Africa,and what a cess pool it has become since the end of apartheid.
A family member of mine founded the SACP . A GG grandfather was born there before the family was none too politely forced to leave by the Afrikaaners. His son returned in adulthood to fight them in Boer war (ha ha) .There are even two towns in South Africa named after our family.
Yesterday One of my brothers asked what Mandela actually did for the country.
Quite simply he got the white Afrikaaners out of political power and handed the country over to the corrupt and self self serving ANC.
South Africa, Under apartheid and being almost self sufficient for decades had become a very wealthy country through dint of hard work. Dont forget the Afrikaaners have been there for several hundred years.
The country has become populated with Africans from other parts of the continent ,many of whom still squat in the slums they created around the country and where mandela drew support as he promised them new homes and great riches. meanwhile, Those same corrupt ANC party aparatchiks live in quite splendor on vast estates while the rest struggle…thanks to mandela. So what did he do for South Africa? …good question.

Aron B on December 7, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    Aron:
    Interesting post. Thank you.

    Joe Guiney on December 8, 2013 at 1:13 am

    Aron B., you said that South Africa prospered economically under Apartheid and I’m sure that’s true. And the trains also ran on time in Nazi Germany also. Since when is “prosperity” an excuse to brutally subjugate people? What doth it prosper a man to gain the world and lose his soul???

    DonQ on December 8, 2013 at 11:22 pm

      Why are you not attacking Obama-Putin for subjugating, Don Quixote? I don’t hear you screaming about that. It’s not 1989 anymore but 2013. Your time machine needs gasoline.

      Aron Boring will never answer you. He never does. He just types boring words. He’s like a Batman villain wanna be (but he’s too boring to join the gang)…you’re suppose to drop dead of boredom after reading what he spews out. How you or anyone else who responded to the boring fool read thru’ his crap without capsizing like a narcoleptic I have no clue.

      Skunky on December 9, 2013 at 9:42 am

Aron B, I always go with the presumption of innocent until proven guilty, and treat people as individuals. Therefore, I am believing every word of what you said.

SO, Jade East and Lentilmen, as I reread Aron B’s post, I am prompted to think, . . .

why am I not surprised?

There are many individuals and groups in this world, who are predisposed toward an excess of “group think.” They complain about being “enslaved” and one day break “free” from their slavery. And THEN, because of “group think,” they invariably become “enslaved” again. And it’s usually by someone they thought was “their boy.”

And I can name more than one ethnic group among so-called “white people” who are just as involved in that sort of thinking, lest anyone believe I am taking a left handed swipe at blacks.

Jade East and Lentilmen, in closing, allow me to leave you with a brilliant line from The Eagles “Already Gone.” (1974).

“So often times it happens,
That we live our lives in chains,
And we never even know,
We have the key.”

Such is the human race, a little doglet, chasing its tail.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on December 7, 2013 at 3:59 pm

The virtual canonisation of Mandela is dangerous because it suggests that racial persecution is a thing of the past in South Africa and that the whites have been forgiven for the institution of apartheid (which, by the way, only some of them supported). Unfortunately, since the ANC’s victory, there has been a long and atrociously cruel campaign to exterminate the remaining white farmers in South Africa. Thousands have been murdered and the pace has accelerated since the news of Mandela’s death. One can only hope that international hysteria over the funeral doesn’t make things even worse. Interested readers can get details from reports such as: http://www.censorbugbear.org/farmitracker/reports/view/1782

Calvin on December 7, 2013 at 4:26 pm

KNOCKOUT, South Africa Style!!! Still sounds like “Kill Whitey” to me, Calvin. All around the world, “Kill Whitey.” Oh yeah, let’s get dem Jooooooos too, yeah, that’s it, that’ll do it.

Yup, that’ll do it alright. Then the poor, downtrodden Rainbow Coalition of LGBT’s (Gay good, straight bad in the New World Order) will join hands, and FINALLY, . . .

teach the world to sing, . . .

and buy the world a Coke.

But Coke is bad. Cocaine? Ahhhhhhhh, yes, they will teach the world to sing, and buy the world SOME Coke.

And THIS time, . . .

Whitey don’t get none.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on December 7, 2013 at 4:38 pm

You should really lok at the right side….
Finally, he re-joined his good friend, Arafat.

Simon on December 7, 2013 at 7:43 pm

What did Sean Hannity say about Mandela?

Moshe on December 8, 2013 at 7:18 am

Uhhhhh, let’s see Moshe. Knowing Sean, he probably said . . .

“you’re a great American.”

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on December 8, 2013 at 9:44 am

Debbie, from the Huffington Puffington Post, this is interesting.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/05/dick-cheney-nelson-mandela-terrorist_n_4394071.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

It also brought back some faint memories of when this was all news.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on December 8, 2013 at 2:39 pm

Thank you Debbie for reporting the full truth about Nelson Mandela not only here, but in your earlier post, as well as your other previous ones.

Nelson Mandela-R.I.H.

JeffE on December 8, 2013 at 2:59 pm

Also my thanks to those other regular readers that added and/or supported what Debbie wrote.

JeffE on December 8, 2013 at 3:01 pm

Mandela doesn’t deserve all this gushing from the news media. Yah! OK, he said a lot of bad things. He changed for the better as he grew older. This is hardly worthy of DAYS of media coverage.

One thing did not change: Mandela hated Israel. Never mind that the Apartheid government in South Africa was supported by and supplied with oil from Saudi Arabia. Mandela thought the PLO was a national liberation movement and that Zionism was not.

Like Mahatma Gandhi, Mandela didn’t think the Jewish people are a nation or that Zionism is a valid national liberation movement of Jews on our ancestral lands. Mandela was AGAINST the national empowerment of the Jewish people. I call that anti-Semitism.

I give Mandela credit for not seeking retribution on South Africa’s white population when blacks took control of the country. However, this was a pragmatic gesture. Without the white population, post-apartheid South Africa would have been stillborn and broke. Instead, Mandela left it to succeeding generations to seek retribution on the white population and South Africa will end up like Zimbabwe: broke.

The news media will make up their own story, but the legacy of Mandela can already be seen in the deteriorating condition in South Africa. Corruption is the rule of the day. The economy is stagnant.

It’s only a matter of time before South Africa falls into anarchy the way of most post-colonial Africa. Don’t count on the news media to give it much coverage. It’s not the romantic story they want to tell.

Sincerely,

There is NO Santa Claus (aka TINSC)

There is NO Santa Claus on December 8, 2013 at 10:40 pm

Savage did mention in the second hour that Mandela supported Castro and the PLO and mentioned that Castro has political prisoners who were in jail longer then Mandela. Sort of taking both sides even though saying this is really bad what he did in the 2nd hour which any intelligent person would take a second look after hearing the second hour of his program.

adam on December 9, 2013 at 3:42 pm

Not surprised by this at all

Nelson Mandela was a great man, but a man nonetheless

People hated Abraham Lincoln, wimston Churchill,and even Ghandhi
Hell , many even hated Jesus during his lifetime

Debbie is just a propagandist for Israel , plain and simple
Every opinion she has is seen through those eyes
Even the United States. She hates this country as we’ll. only tolerates it because of the aid we provide

History has already decided on all the men listed above
Debbie is on the wrong side of history…period

Dan on December 9, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    You do realize he bombed women and children right not once but more than a dozen times.churches movie theaters shopping malls

    Doug on December 9, 2013 at 5:58 pm

    Who’s eyes are you making your opinion through. Mandela may have been a great man, but what kind of great ? Mao,Stalin,Lennin,Hitler,Rammses,Caesar,Castro were and are great men. But non-the-less bad men.Great don’t mean good in all cases. Mandela would not renounce terrorism while in prison. He had a hate for white people, unless they were Commies then he would tolerate them. Just because he talked a “good” game in public, didn’t mean he played a good game. He also had a hate for Israel and the US. This dead commie would have never been freed when he was , if not for America.

    William on December 9, 2013 at 6:01 pm

It’s not secret that Debbie is a racist retard. Mandela said that after he went to the West for help to end apartheid and found none in the USA, the UK or anywhere for that matter. I’m not condoning what he had done in SA as far as the ANC terrorism but just pointing out the moronic position of a known white-supremacist in Debbie.

Adam on December 9, 2013 at 6:17 pm

    Thank you, Ahmed, I mean Adam.

    skzion on December 10, 2013 at 1:16 pm

The sooner he’s in the ground and forgotten, the better.

Michelle on December 9, 2013 at 6:38 pm

“If there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America. They don’t care for human beings.”
Ouch, the truth hurts!
USA! USA! (feel better now Debbie?)

Stan on December 9, 2013 at 6:47 pm

    Stan, you’re a moron. Feel better now?

    skzion on December 9, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    Well stan, if that’s the case. What are you doing living in America ? If that’s where you live.

    William on December 10, 2013 at 11:59 am

Rush mentioned today, and I think it was his only mention of Mandela, that he was offered freedom MANY times, and turned it down. He turned it down because of the condition that he had to renounce terrorism.

Verrrrrrryyyyyyy interestinnnnnggggg.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on December 9, 2013 at 9:36 pm

Hmmmmmmmm, let’s see:

(i) Debbie is a racist retard;
(ii) Debbie is a white supremacist;
(iii) Debbie is a propagandist for Israel;

Well, let’s take them one at a time.

Hmmmmmm, maybe not, because others more educated and knowledgeable have already chimed in, and more can do so if they feel like it.

If you can’t see the narrative existent in the world, which has resulted from the drumbeat ramped up during the 60’s, then you are blind, and possibly deaf and dumb, also, just to utilize an old phrase from “my day.”

That narrative is simply something I’ve stated often here, as others have. The United States and its support for Israel are the main problems, and without our superpower status and burgeoning hegemony, we could all join hands, teach the world to sing and buy the world a Coke.

REALLY??!!!!???!!! Seriously now?!?!?!!!??

Someone PLEASE, from the BOT (Body Of Trolls), is there any way to SERIOUSLY discuss this point of view? Can you really articulate why bringing the United States low and killing all the Jews in Israel and around the world, will bring about global peace, economic “equality” and contentment for all? And don’t tell me that’s not what you’re implying, because I’ve been listening to that crap for literally half a century. I know it when I see it, even when it’s not so thinly disguised.

Okay, GO!!! I’ll be waiting at the fork in the road.

There is an old saying in southeastern north central midwestern Kansas.

“If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s a DUCK!!!”

That was then, and this is now. What it means today is “if you DELIBERATELY attempt to disrupt the peace in a society, in order to make a political point, RANDOMLY and WILLFULLY killing civilians, you are a terrorist.”

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on December 9, 2013 at 9:56 pm

The quote was accurate. Mandela was NOT a saint.

burt on December 10, 2013 at 2:51 pm

I seem to recall that Mandela said years ago that “Hitler was one of the men he admired” but I can find no mention of it now. Does anyone know if this is a true quote?

PaulaMalka on December 11, 2013 at 1:07 pm

I guess jewish people shouldn’t have a beef with the Germans anymore and lets forgot the guards who gassed your people and buried them in mass graves ok.
I love my country and served well in the Navy, but if you look back in history and even look what our leaders are doing now to our military on foreign soil and you have to think maybe Mandela has a point. All I know is it will take a million of you to equal one of him.

THE MANGOG on December 11, 2013 at 10:10 pm

Except the thing is, is that Nelson Mandela is right, the US is the biggest threat to world peace.

When a country is run by corporations like the US is, when it’s people are so ignorant and apathetic like the US is, than it becomes a big danger.

You’d have to be kind of stupid not to realise that.

Nicole on January 2, 2014 at 12:57 pm

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