April 7, 2015, - 3:10 pm

Black Kid Admitted to All 8 Ivy League Schools Isn’t What Media Claims – Part 2; Affirmative Action Still Rules

By Debbie Schlussel

The media is once again slobbering (like they did last year) because, yet again, a Black kid got admitted into all eight Ivy League schools. And, yet again, the kid isn’t what the media is making him out to be. While he’s incredibly smart, affirmative action definitely played a role, unless there are a whole buncha White and Indian students (of the Asian variety) who got into all eight and the media isn’t telling us about it.

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Harold Ekeh: Yes, He Obviously Got Affirmative Action

FOX News Morning Dolts Gush Over Ivy League Affirmative Action Beneficiary (Officially Sponsored by the Word “Like”) . . .

On Sunday evening, I got a call from NBC in New York, and I could see the number on my Caller ID. But it was still the second day of Passover (with an 1.5 hours to go before it ended), and my religion prohibits me from answering the phone on Jewish holidays (but for emergencies). So, I didn’t take the call, knowing I was probably missing out on some great media opportunity. After the holiday ended, I called the number back. The man who answered told me he was a “Today Show” producer looking to book me for a story on affirmative action for Monday morning’s show. He told me they’d already booked Mindy Kaling’s brother, instead. If you’ve read the stories, Kaling’s bro, Vijay Chokal-Ingam, pretended to be Black and got into the same medical school that rejected him when he identified honestly as Indian-American. His conclusion–one that many of us who are White already know–is that affirmative action is pure racism. This is true in Hollywood, too, as evidenced by his (reportedly estranged) sister’s success, which is based largely on the fact that she, too, is a minority with significantly dark skin. She definitely benefits from Hollywood’s diversity push. After all, Mindy Kaling isn’t funny, and her sitcom on FOX stinks. Her whole act is, “Hi, I’m one of the few fat Indian chicks. Now laugh!” Sorry, no chuckles here.

I had my own blatant experience with the racism that is affirmative action, when I applied to Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service and a wealthy Black chick with horrible grades and test scores was admitted instead of me. I’ve recounted the story on this site before. The local Georgetown alumni member who interviewed both of us (and recommended me for admission) was fired from this volunteer position after he rightfully wrote an angry letter to Georgetown about the blatant discrimination. He’d rated me a “9,” which was at the time the highest rating an alumnus interviewer could give an applicant, and the first and only time he’d given out a 9. He gave the wealthy black chick a “2,” the lowest of all the area applicants to Georgetown’s Foreign Service School. My parents were middle class and I went to a public high school in a majority Black city and grew up in a Black neighborhood. This girl lived in an expensive, lily-white zip code and went to the most expensive private school in town, Detroit Country Day. And on every level, I’d bested her . . . except in the all-important preferred skin complexion category.

And so it goes with Harold Ekeh, who was recently admitted into all eight Ivy League schools and who just happens to be Black. He’s reportedly the only applicant to get into all eight.







If the story sounds familiar, it should. Last year, I wrote about Kwasi Enin, another Black student who was also admitted into all eight Ivy League schools. And I was roundly attacked for questioning the gushing and his Ivy admissions, mostly by Black Americans in denial. They insist on affirmative action but then call us racist when we point out how they benefit from this accepted institutional racism. They can point out fictional “White privilege,” but we aren’t allowed to point out actual, documented, proven, overt “Black privilege” in the form of affirmative action and insistence upon “diversity” solely for diversity’s sake.

The same goes for Mr. Ekeh. He sounds like a brilliant, incredibly talented and gifted person, and there’s no denying that. But he’s also Black, which would explain how he got into all eight Ivies when, news stories claim, nobody else did. If a White person or an Asian-American (particularly Chinese or Indian) got into all eight Ivies, I doubt we’d be hammered over the head with the story, though. We’d probably never know.

You see, Ekeh’s SAT scores were 2270. On the face of it, that’s pretty smart (although, as I’ve reported on these pages, the SAT has been significantly dumbed down over the years–including allowing the use of calculators, eliminating deductions for wrong answers, and getting rid of the use of words that aren’t used in the everyday English vernacular). His score is in the 99th percentile in 2014, when he presumably took the test. But, in fact, 13,760 SAT takers in 2014 scored higher than Ekeh. And 1,703 got the same score as he did. Add them to the total, and 15,463 people scored as well as he did or better on the SAT test. How many of them applied to all eight Ivy League schools and didn’t get in? How many of them got into NONE of the Ivy League schools? A lot of them, I’ll bet.

The incoming classes at each of the Ivies are very small, with most accepting only a couple thousand applicants or less. And, yet, Harold Ekeh was more qualified in the eyes of admissions counselors at all eight Ivies than most of the 15,463 people who scored as high or better than he did; and more qualified than the 13,760 who scored better than he did. We know these schools give a leg up to Black applicants, a leg up that Whites don’t get. Even if he scored in the 98th percentile, I’ll bet he’d have gotten into all eight Ivies, and that would have added an additional 20,000 applicants to the mix. We know that these schools have quotas and admit a certain number of Black applicants, judging them only against other Black applicants (whose test scores are lower on average than Whites and Asians), rather than the entire pool of applicants.

Kwasi Enin–last year’s All-Eight-Ivies man–got 2250 on the SATs. And he was only 11th in his graduating class at a public high school, as I pointed out. And the other 10 people who got better grades than he did didn’t get into all eight Ivies (some of them probably didn’t get into any Ivies). I can’t find any information on where Harold Ekeh fell in his class rankings academically.

To give you an idea of how difficult it is to get into the Ivies (unless you are of the preferred minority groups), here are a few stats from the article on Ekeh:

Harvard only accepts 5.9 per cent of applicants – roughly 2,000 of the 34,000 submissions they receive. Yale accepts 6.3 per cent of the 30,000 students who apply, and Columbia only 6.9 per cent of 32,000. Cornell has the highest acceptance rate of the eight Ivies – a minuscule 14 per cent of the 43,000 applicants.

And if you look at Ekeh’s activities, he was editor of his high school newspaper and was in the Model U.N. (or as my friend Adam Taxin rightly calls it, the “Model Anti-Israel U.N.”). Nothing that impressive and not anything that nearly every single applicant to the Ivies has on their resume.

By definition, Harold Ekeh is a one of America’s best and brightest. Statistically, he is in the 99th percentile on an IQ test and that can’t be denied. He plans to be a neurosurgeon and wants to find the cure for Alzheimer’s. That’s laudable and to be encouraged. If he were my doctor and about to operate on me, I’d be confident I was in good hands. He is probably smarter than most of the doctors I have now. But while he is among America’s best and brightest, his test scores indicate he’s also statistically not good enough to beat out nearly 20,000 people who fared better on the test and didn’t get into all eight Ivies. Without race on his application, there’s simply no way he’d have been accepted to all Eight Ivies. And maybe he wouldn’t have been accepted to any at all.

So all of this hype is really about nothing. But you won’t hear that anywhere because that would be immediately shouted down as “RAAAAAAYYYYYYCIST!” Predictably, the airheaded dolts on FOX News’ morning show gushed over this guy, too. (And they also gushed over Miss Hezbollah USA, so I’m not surprised.)

By the way, Ekeh, himself, credits his admissions into all eight schools on his application essay. In it he describes the struggle his Nigerian family had to fit in after they immigrated to America. Do you think an Israeli person or Norwegian person–if he or she wrote such an essay–would get admitted to all eight Ivies? Even if he or she had a 2270 on the SATs and edited his/her high school newspaper?

Think again.

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It does bear noting that both Ekeh and last year’s All-Eight-Ivies man, Kwasi Enin, came from immigrant families and were not from the American urban welfare state hip-hop culture. It goes without saying that the characteristics of that culture have a very negative correlation to success.

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They’re Nigerian Christian and it should be pointed immigrant blacks greatly value education and hard work.

My point they would have gotten even without affirmative action.

In contrast, native black Americans look down on schooling as “acting white.”

The real story here isn’t about skin color or race; its about a person’s values and their dedication to living by them – which is color-blind.

But I bet the media won’t highlight that because it puts Black America in a bad light as far getting ahead in life goes.

Not everything in this country is about racism no matter how much the media and the race merchants try to make it the issue. Harold Ekweh and Kwasi Enin are proof it doesn’t exist.

NormanF on April 7, 2015 at 3:56 pm

Affirmative Action and Quotas are alive and well in the United States. Even though the White population is in terminal decline, it is unlikely that claims of “White Privilege” will disappear. Also, Asians really get screwed over as well, even though their test scores frequently surpass those of other ethnic groups.

Worry on April 7, 2015 at 3:58 pm

Why doesn’t the media mention the kids with perfect SAT scores who got rejected from Ivy schools so that lesser qualified applicants could be admitted to fulfill politically correct objectives? This kid may be smart, but he certainly isn’t the smartest kid who took the SAT.

I also question why he applied to all 8 Ivy League schools. Was his application fee waived at some (or all) of the schools? The application fee alone is a deterrent to a lot of kids who would otherwise apply to a lot of schools.

Kurt on April 7, 2015 at 4:07 pm

They want so badly to have black students that disprove the 1 SD lower academic performance of most black students. Yes this black person is talented but how many better students were not selected because they are white? Its racism in reverse. But the final laugh will be on the universities who lower standards and then pretend its all good. These AA graduates will take with them the lower expectations in life and work that they were accorded.

chuck on April 7, 2015 at 4:22 pm

We have a supposedly “brilliant” black surgeon in Simi and he’s bad news. Leaves things in patients, nicks adjacent organs, etc. and he definitely benefits from white-guilt. White patients don’t eschew him because they want to show how socially “progressive” and “colorblind” they are.

Point is that there’s no impetus to try very hard if everyone is cutting you slack and giving you the benefit of the doubt all the time.

DS_ROCKS! on April 7, 2015 at 4:32 pm

Because of my age, I can recall what life used to be like in these United States of America long, long ago, BEFORE racial integration and racial miscegenation was forced on us at gunpoint by our own government.

First of all, thanks to legally enforced racial segregation, life was a whole lot safer for everybody, both Black and White.

Second, we were FREE to express our personal thoughts, without fear of being unemployed, evicted, sued, prosecuted, and ostracized.

Third, almost all people, both Black and White, dressed decently, and adhered to social expectations of religious and moral standards in deportment.

Fourth, people, both Black and White, were generally courteous, polite, and civil.

Fifth, prior to the 1954 United States Supreme Court ruling of “BROWN VERSUS BOARD OF EDUCATION OF TOPEKA, KANSAS”, which eventually compelled every institution in the United States of America, both public and private, to drastically lower their standards in every area of daily activity, in order to accommodate the less educated and less than desirable conduct of the Black populace.

As a result, contemporary public school students are functionally subliterate compared to graduates of past years, although they are well indoctrinated with government mandated propaganda regarding the “politically correct” view of current social issues.

Another, more ominous result of result of compulsory racial integration has been the corruption and weakening of our Armed Forces and civilian police agencies, due to the executive order issue by President Harry S. Truman during the Korean War.

Today, our Armed Forces are effectively neutralized by racial polarization and overt anti-White discrimination among the ranks, so that, if it should become necessary to enforce policies which the Black population might disapprove of, our military forces and our police forces could not be relied on, due to the perilous division between armed Black and White troops.

Several years ago, the news media reported that when George Bush was President of the United States of America, he planned to end the nationally mandated official government policy of “Affirmative Action”, which racially discriminates in favor of Black people, while simultaneously penalizing White people.

However, he was dissuaded in this effort by his appointed Black assistants, Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell.

Finally, Harold Ekeh is an immigrant from Nigeria.

What does he sound like when he speaks?

When I lived in Washington, D.C., I attended church services with a Nigerian, and unfortunately, I could not understand a single word he spoke.

Embarrassed and frustrated, I could only smile and nod my head in my clumsy attempt to be friendly.

No, I definitely would NOT trust someone like that to perform any medical procedure on me.

Is that same thing true of all Nigerians?

I don’t know, but why take an unnecessary risk and make any situation more difficult or complicated than it needs to be.

The great irony in all this is that when I was a stereotypical rebellious and idealistic teenager growing up in a small, racially segregated, Southern military community, I thought that racial integration was a noble, virtuous, and GREAT idea.

After all, aren’t all men brothers, and aren’t all races the same?

Well, after all these decades, and observing the permanently horrific damage that has been done to our divinely inspired Constitution of our United States of America, to our lost Republic, and to all of our contemporary society, both Black and White, it is painfully evident that my adolescent aspirations were terribly mistaken.

So, the question now must be, is it even possible to reverse the damage, and if so, how would we go about it?

Or, do we face the ghastly scenario of blood in the streets, with neighbor against neighbor, et cetera, ad infinitum?

Just in case I should ever become historically noteworthy to be quoted, here is a quotation of mine that I created and posted at my own personal web site, “OUR ETERNAL STRUGGLE”:

“Nationwide repeal of all firearms legislation, accompanied by a restoration of racial segregation, along with legalized implementation of Code Duello, would immediately resolve almost all contemporary social problems.”

John Robert Mallernee

John Robert Mallernee on April 7, 2015 at 5:25 pm

    When I posted my comment on FACEBOOK, in response to this article, Miss Schlussel’s post, plus my reply, was IMMEDIATELY (within mere SECONDS!) deleted from FACEBOOK.

    The powers that be do not permit freedom of expression unless that expression is in agreement with theirs.

    John Robert Mallernee on April 7, 2015 at 5:59 pm

    We will all be better off when people like you are a thing of the past and your only imprint is being the horrible Grandfather that no one wanted to talk to.

    Scott Couture on April 7, 2015 at 10:12 pm

      Dear Mr. Couture:

      While I don’t agree with JRM that government should be discriminating against blacks, I find it hard to blame him for wanting to use government in this way given that is now involved in a race war against whites. You, who are most likely worthless except to yourself, have never served your country as Mallernee has.

      I say that the big problem–in addition to the just mentioned race war actively waged at all governmental levels–is the prohibition against private discrimination via “public accomodations” rulings and various “civil rights” laws. There is no doubt that the social pathologies JRM describes are accurately observed.

      Now buzz off you freak.

      skzion on April 8, 2015 at 1:35 am

        Very well said, skzion.

        Little Al on April 8, 2015 at 8:13 am

      We will all be better off when people like you are a thing of the past

      And we’d all be better off if your smug, brainwashed, “hive-minded”, hipster self had been aborted.

      DS_ROCKS! on April 8, 2015 at 2:43 am

I get your complaint. What happened to you attempting to get into Georgetown was flat out wrong and so is egregious actions of taking the less qualified person for anything.

However, White affirmative action is getting into Ivy League schools because a parent went there. Oh yeah, it swings both ways. Something that Whites don’t think about when they scream about affirmative action.

What I hate more than anything regarding this achievement of this student, is that society feels the need to parade him all over the papers and news talk, “its such an anomaly to have a smart Black kid. What is the world coming to”
That’s the real travesty.

I just see another smart kid, but not society.

Set You all Straight on April 7, 2015 at 5:27 pm

Eddie Murphy needs to be cast in the “Harold Ekeh (Erkel?)Story” immediately.

DS_ROCKS! on April 7, 2015 at 5:30 pm

I was interviewed for Harvard (1979 SAT of 1420 and ACT of 33, 8th out of 821 at an elite North Surburban Chicago High School, Maine East).

The interviewer asked me if I would want to be at Harvard or at the 6 year Med at Northwestern. I said “the 6 year med.”

I told the truth, never regretted it. Rejected by Harvard, I made the waiting list at NW, missed getting in. Got a full tuition scholarship to TCU (which now has a top 20 US pre-med program), and, despite the fact that the chief pre-med advisor at TCU hated my guts and wrote a bad recommendation for me (I graduated with a 3.7 Magna Cum Laude and had a higher MCAT than the average at Harvard Med), I was accepted to two US Medical Schools, including as an out of stater at UTMB. By the way, Debbie, scores like what you are noting for this fellow are average for MDs. Take your dad, for instance.

Now I serve 3 rural Native American reservations in a region of the country where the winters easily hit 30 below without windchill, live in a very pleasant town (despite the weather), and make $350 K a year.

Again, getting into the Ivies is meaningless, really. I have a high school classmate of mine who went to Brown for undergrad. Last I read about him, he was in Kabul, drooling like a schoolgirl over meeting Hillary (we went to the same high school—Hillary, the drooler, and I). I envy him neither his education (PhD at Iowa State after Brown in “American Studies,” barf) nor his job as a State Department flack.

The Greatest Humanitarian of the 20th Century who fed over a billion people got his PhD from U of Minnesota. Linus Pauling did his undergrad at Oregon State. I went to undergrad with two TCU grads who went to Yale and Harvard Law Schools respectively (neither as tough academically as UTMB).

My High School Classmate who did his undergrad at Brown while I went to TCU got his terminal degree at Iowa State. My final training in Medicine in Psychiatry was at UCLA’s School of Medicine.

Ultimately, it is the student, not the school, always. Debbie, for example, is a brilliant attorney. Obama went to a better law school. Who would you want representing you?

Occam's Tool on April 7, 2015 at 5:47 pm

    I mean’t to add that she looks like a pitbull too.

    Answer on April 8, 2015 at 12:38 am

      Knowing I said nothing of the sort. Idiots that impersonate others are lame. Debbie only has to check the emails you signed in under. Dummy.

      Answer1 on April 8, 2015 at 7:54 pm

    Occam’s Tool states: “Ultimately, it is the student, not the school, always. Debbie, for example, is a brilliant attorney. Obama went to a better law school. Who would you want representing you?”

    Not only do I strongly second these statements, I would certainly want Debbie representing me, regardless of other choices. If I had a death wish, I’d want the petulant Phony in the White House.

    Concerned Citizen on April 8, 2015 at 1:08 pm

Occam’s-good to note. To answer your question, Debbie wins hands down, she has the passion and is a pitbull I’m sure in the court room. The pres, is too laid back, wayyyyy to laid back, I’d think he’d would be throwing the case lol. As talented as he is, nah, that demeanor only goes so far lol.

Answer on April 7, 2015 at 6:39 pm

Going hand-in-hand with affirmative action is the movement against testing, which reinforces affirmative action, by further demeaning and diminishing the authority of test scores. This movement strengthens those schools that like to, themselves, demean test scores so they can discriminate more effectively.

Along with this, so many rationalizations about bad test scores — anything except admitting that the people getting the bad test scores are (with a very minute number of exceptions), just plain stupid.

While I understand that a superior education can be obtained at many schools, and while I have always had a great deal of respect for TCU, there are some advantages to going to Ivy League Schools.

Networking for instance. Students at schools like Harvard are able to make the kinds of contacts that are much more difficult to make at non-elite schools. Graduates of elite schools also have an edge for certain types of professional jobs. Most highly-ranked law firms, for instance, show on their web sites where their professional staff attended school. You can insert as a search term, the name of the school. It is logical to believe that these firms make sure that search terms like “Harvard” or “Stanford” will produce plenty of entries.

Little Al on April 7, 2015 at 6:41 pm

One more thought. This young man should brace himself for accusations of cheating too if he makes all A’s and B’s.

fishydude on April 7, 2015 at 9:22 pm

What White people forget is that there is White affirmative action. It getting in to an Ivy League school because your family went. That is affirmative action, so don’t ignore that fact.

Its a sad day that society feels it needs to make this a story. “Oh my god, such an anomaly, a smart Black person” its pitiful that they feel the need to blow this up.

I see a smart Black kid, not a big deal.

SYS: “Legacy Affirmative Action” is also applied to the kids of minority students who got affirmative action. It’s not an all-White thing. DS

set you straight on April 7, 2015 at 9:51 pm

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Little Al on April 7, 2015 at 10:11 pm

Although the children of alumni do usually represent some value to the college — the alumni typically make large donations that benefit the school.

It’s hard to see any benefit from admitting the affirmative action freeloaders.

Little Al on April 7, 2015 at 10:20 pm

Interesting that college admissions has always been arbitrary and not solely based on grades/test scores alone. The use of “affirmative action” style criteria has been in force for a long while know when the ivy leagues were threatened by a growing Jewish population in the 1900s (who had the grades to qualify). They came up with white affirmative action with the use of extracurriculars, character traits and adopted legacy programs..guess it’s just swung in the other direction. They wanted to keep a country club mentality to their institutions in which white protestants would rule the roost

The legacy program really was established as affirmative action for white students, they decided a candidate with weak credentials could benefit from social opportunities at the college because they wanted to keep the body white and protestant for the most part

kal on April 8, 2015 at 12:51 am

And like all affirmative action, it was also a job trust. They did not want to have to compete against larger numbers of Jewish doctors, lawyers or professors.

Ironic that they used character traits and social skills as criteria, in light of the present affirmative action beneficiaries. Just look at the Kentucky basketball team.

Little Al on April 8, 2015 at 1:37 am

I did not know that the reason why the “Legacy affirmative action” was to keep Jewish people out. Interesting very interesting. Makes this article even more hmm, what is the word I’m looking for?

Good info Kal and Lil Al

Set you straight on April 8, 2015 at 2:36 am

    Despite what kal asserts, college admission has never been “arbitrary.” Set’s and kal’s claims about legacy admissions are also highly misleading. First, we regularly distinguish so-called acceptable “discrimination” from unnacceptable, pernicious discrimination. That based on race and religion are historically of the latter kind. Second, legacy advantages for admission do not involve the staggering advantages given to blacks and hispanics. The DEGREE of advantage is relevant. Third, the legacy advantage business is largely for particular families at particular universities. The MASSIVE advatage for blacks and hispanics is across the board.

    skzion on April 8, 2015 at 5:27 am

Hi Debbie & readers;

This is not such a bad case of reverse discrimination re: higher-ed. After all, he is not a product of the ‘Projects’ & decades on the dole. He is not the issue, however, the haughty & secular white prog-Elites are. In the last 100 years, they’ve corrupted the Judeo-Christian foundation & institutions of this still great country.

Weren’t the early Ivies (H, P & Yale) founded as Christians schools same as Oxford & Cambridge & many other old & venerated schools in the Old Country? The no longer pink but radical red/brown/green faculty in public & private U’s both, is practicing de facto fascism re: PC, group think, ‘free speech zones’ (barf), rampant revisionism & other assaults on the Bill of Rights.

Having had lived under the blood-stained claw of the Evil Red Empire for the 1st 21 years of my life in a persecuted pro-American & anti-anything-Left family gave me a unique insight into these issues.
The fight for Liberty began three generations ago during & after WWI in Russia. My great-uncle was a Captain in the CZ Legion fighting the Bolsheviks. Wounded in combat, he finished the 6000 miles Anabasis of the 60K troops across Russia & Siberia to Vladivostok; than Japan, across the USA back to Prague, as a Colonel. — As a poignant aside, (60K mostly Czech soldiers fought against 1.5 Mio strong Red army headed by Trotsky!), they stole hundreds of trains from the Reds in order to make the perilous journey to the Far East to get out of Russia. That included the personal heavily armed armored train of L. Trotsky – much bigger & menacing than the one in Dr. Zhivago. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/Trotsky.html – CZ Legion mentioned under – The Civil War (1918-1920). —
Among other great deeds, they’d liberated the jewel of the Volga – the city of Kazan – from the Reds. As fate would have it, the gold treasure of the Czars happen to be there. The CZ warriors took w/ them eight freight cars of gold, seven of which they used in Vladivostok to bribe the Red Army brass to let them board a Japanese flotilla. The remaining gold was used to pay for the voyage around the world back to Prague.

Between the Wars, my great-uncle joined the CZ DoD as a General & after 1939 co-founds the Resistance. The Gestapo catches him in Oct. 1943. Not betraying his compatriots after brutal torture, he was executed w/out a trial in Prague.

His brothers (my grandpa & other uncle) chose science. Paternal grandpa was an MD (Charles U in Prague) & a nuclear physicist (Max Plank Institute in Berlin today) by the age of 25. The ‘baby-brother’ did double PhD in biochemistry & molecular biology. While in Berlin, they’d met already ill Mme Curie (Native of Poland). Her condition caused my grandpa to found the faculty of nuclear & medical physics in Prague & devote his life to find the cure for the ‘White sickness’, i.e., gamma radiation. He partially succeeded in the 1950s while doing research among the political prisoners in the uranium-mines concentration camps (controlled by the Soviets). He came up w/ medication that alleviated their long & painful dying. BTW, under the Red rule, he made as much as a truck driver, as a Dean of that faculty – for all of you MD’s & academics out there.
My dad, a top notch Chemical engineer (organic chem. & polymers) fared much worse. For his anti-Red stance & pranks, he was sentenced to menial labor & declared the Enemy-of-the-state making ~200 $/month back then.
Yours truly, as the oldest son of the EotS was sent to the School of mines in order to be allowed an education. The red goons had no clue that since the age of ten, I’d loved to build dams across creeks & digging for gold & crystals. After the Soviet Invasion in 1968, we escaped to Switzerland. My dad made a big career there retiring as a VP of R&D after inventing ~20 useful products. I worked there as a geologist/geophysicist & ironically found uranium ore lenses in the Alps. However, the ‘CH’ government didn’t allow any mining. I ain’t no tree-hugger & I concur. The Swiss are doing well w/out any mining & keep the Alps pristine; the tourism income is clean money.

To wrap this long rant up, my dad asked me about 8 years ago to look up on the Web any possible mention of his dad who got stuck behind the Iron Curtain. To our astonishment, among other things, his gamma-ray research was quoted in 2007 in the dissertation of a Harvard Med School graduate.

My late mother was persecuted for 41 years & never budged. Her wealthy family lost everything at gun-point in 1948, like in Dr. Zhivago. She was a great performer; theater, ballet & Big Band singer; a star that never was.

Having the gift of music through her, I applied in the mid ’90s to a Fed program performing ethnic (Bohemian, Moravian & Gypsy) music in grade schools for 25 $/h. I was rejected for not being black or Latino. AA in its full absurdity.

Lastly, JRM is a highly decorated Nam vet who served several tours w/ the 101st Airborne ‘the Screaming Eagles.’
Thank you for your service, John.

Robert of Prague on April 8, 2015 at 8:59 am

Apologies for misspelling ‘Max Planck.’ I don’t care, just honoring my ancestors who taught us proper expression, oral & written in several languages.

Robert of Prague on April 8, 2015 at 9:12 am

As for legacy advantage, the degree of advantage is vast, because it guarantees you a higher status in life, (as long as you don’t piss it away) but you can write your own ticket anywhere. Generational affirmative action.
The Black and Mexican advantage has been waning. In fact these states all have laws banning racial preferences into college: California, Florida, Washington, Arizona, Nebraska, Oklahoma and New Hampshire.

Set you straight on April 8, 2015 at 2:04 pm

    Set, I was referring to the degree of advantage for being admitted. Being black, last time I checked, is good for hundreds of free SAT points. Now, standardized tests aren’t a perfect measure on the individual level. But over groups they are just fine. So, when blacks are an average of 200 points below whites at elite schools, IT MATTERS.

    As for your claim that this advantage has tapered off, I am doubtful. Where is your evidence?

    skzion on April 8, 2015 at 7:52 pm

The thing is that getting into all 8 Ivies is not especially impressive. Harvard is the most selective of the Ivy League so it stands to reason that EVERYONE at Harvard COULD have gotten into all of the Ivies. Stanford is even more selective than Harvard so it also stands to reason that everyone who got into Stanford COULD have gotten into all of the Ivies, if they had applied. Most people don’t apply to all 8 because they’re very different from one another in terms of both learning styles (core curriculum at Columbia vs. self-designed curriculum at Brown) and in terms of lifestyle they offer (do you want to live in Manhattan or in rural New Hampshire?). So most people already have a sense of where they want to go and apply accordingly. This young man is no doubt very smart and impressive and I’m sure he’s got a bright future ahead of him and certainly wish him nothing but the best but getting accepted into all 8 Ivies hardly makes you the second coming of Einstein.

Josh on April 8, 2015 at 2:32 pm

    Actually, Josh, you are incorrect. Each admission decision contains school-specific factors and random error. That someone was accepted at ALL does mean plenty.

    skzion on April 8, 2015 at 7:44 pm

      In this case, it means B.L.A.C.K. or that the candidate walks on water.

      skzion on April 8, 2015 at 7:45 pm

It seems to me that affirmative action hurts all minorities in the long run. I sure this has been pointed out before, but I thought I would express myself anyway. With all the affirmative action going on people start saying “He/she only got there because of his/her race.” When a minority actually earns/merits a place at the top, the stigma of “he/she only got the because of race” is still applied.

BIGB on April 8, 2015 at 4:12 pm

except debbie isnt white. shes jewish. now jews are white?!?! lol.

zan tarr on April 8, 2015 at 4:50 pm

    Jews can certainly be white; most of them are.

    skzion on April 9, 2015 at 2:09 am

Debbie:

My favorite T-Shirt of all time bears the Harvard crest on the front with the words:”Harvard, the Michigan of the East”. I’ll take Maize and Blue anytime over all the other schools mentioned. My biggest regret is turning down an invitation to Cass Tech for high school. Long story. Which high school did you go to and in what neighborhood were you raised? Me? 7 Mile and Outer Drive.

MarcHH

M: Southfield High. I had that T-shirt, BTW, but I don’t know what happened to it. DS

MarcHH on April 8, 2015 at 4:53 pm

Michigan is one of the most disgusting schools in the country.

It originated the Port Urine statement that has been the cause of so much grief over the last half-century, it was the site of the first Teach-in [sic!] against the Vietnam War, and helped establish Affirmative Action on a national basis.

Their subservience to Muslim fanatics is legendary.

A disproportionate number of the most left-wing professors in the country ‘teach’ there.

And they praise their Commie graduate Arthur Miller to the skies.

Little Al on April 8, 2015 at 6:24 pm

Right, I do realize that Legacy Affirmative Action isnt an ALL White thing, but lets be realistic and honest and forthright and straightforward, and and and. Who attends Ivy League schools in fact, let me look up demos real quick…hold on.

Looks like Whites on avg maintain a populace of around 47%. Now this was in 2011. Now let me look at 1970s, 1980s oh Im sure it is around 80%. Since it is legacy based, its a no brainer that it has and is basically White affirmative action. I’m just calling it the way I see it. It is.

My point, don’t really have one. Its a shame that this student has this negative backlash when he only wants to go to school.

Set you Straight on April 8, 2015 at 8:20 pm

    Set, you haven’t addressed my points. So, I’m ignoring you forthwith.

    skzion on April 9, 2015 at 2:11 am

Where is my evidence that affirmative action has tapered off? Just the fact the many states have laws against this.

As far as Blacks scores are 200 points less on avg than Whites at elite schools, it does matter, I agree, but states are making changes.

Set you Straight on April 9, 2015 at 2:55 am

I am positive that the drastic decline in the education standards of colleges and universities was directly caused by “Affirmative Action”.

“Affirmative Action” affects much more than freshman admissions, it also affects who is accepted into graduate programs and most importantly WHO IS HIRED for the faculty.

In my own case, I graduated with a 4.0 with my Masters and was working on my Phd when a good friend who was an older professor told me point blank that I was one of the best students in the program but once I graduated it would almost be impossible since I was a white male to get a job since it was in History and the humanities only hire minorities and women. Since I was tight financially, I took a “break” and that was 23 years ago.

The best and brightest are penalized in this country because they are not of the correct gender and race and that harms the country and is REAL racism !!

JimmyPx on April 9, 2015 at 9:40 am

    And Jimmy, it’s no coincidence that the humanities began its serious decline in scholarship not long before you took your break.

    This would shock most of my fellow alums from the University of Chicago, but it’s time to defund the humanities and social sciences. In fact, it’s well past time to end guaranteed student loans and ALL federal grants.

    skzion on April 9, 2015 at 11:40 am

Jimmy and Skzion-Blacks can’t be the most unemployed and take all the jobs too. Come on. Get serious. That would be an incredible feat. I think the jobs that Whites say was taken from them is vastly overstated.

Now I’m not say AA is hasn’t screwed people, but all these horror stories do not add up. White people are going to be just fine. You had a 400 year head start. ha ha. You’ll be alright.

Huh? Wha? on April 9, 2015 at 1:57 pm

    Huh Wha,

    Imagine that you have spent YEARS working your butt off and are one of the top candidates for a position and a person who is vastly less qualified than you gets the position due to their skin color. How would you feel ?? Also this is the case EVERYWHERE–there is a reason that the rate of white males in the U.S. getting Phds has plummeted in the last decades–it is because of AA—they can’t get jobs in Academia !!

    I know exactly how Debbie felt like and she’s a brilliant attorney yet say she decided that she would like to teach law now and teach law students what she has learned in her law practice. She won’t get hired due to the color of her skin !!!

    This is the epitome of racism and I believe whole heartedly in what Dr King which was that people shouldn’t be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. The best candidate should always get the position no matter race, religion or gender !!

    JimmyPx on April 9, 2015 at 3:24 pm

    Sounds like Big D is back.

    skzion on April 10, 2015 at 2:54 pm

Jimmy I agree. I ackwoledge that AA only works on paper, when applied, it doesn’t work. Lowering standards is wrong too.

Example- I believe it was Philadelphia that the fire dept couldn’t find any qualified Blacks to hire. The ones that appliexld couldn’t pass the damn test. What does the PfD do, they lowered the standards, a lot, I believe to 60%. Yeah a D was passing.

Now come on, that was pure foolishness. That helps no one. AA was never to be implemented like that.

The point of my first post, is that Blacks are the face of AA when Blacks are not the big benefactors of it. Whites point to Blacks taking jobs because of AA but yet Whites say Blacks are unemployed and take up all the welfare. Well two of these dynamics can’t be true. Makes no sense.

Debbie couldn’t get hired as an attorney? I don’t believe that. Hi IQ, has passion, has connections, no I don’t believe that for a sec

Huh? Wha on April 10, 2015 at 1:36 am

Debbie, did you see this article? This is an article about an elite group of students accepted to all 8 Ivy League schools. The author points out that one thing the applicants all have in common is that they are immigrants. However, the author neglected the mention the glaring common aspect, which is that each of the students is black. If any of these kids were white or asian, it would not surprise me if they have been rejected by most, if not all, of the schools!

See http://www.businessinsider.com/students-accepted-to-all-8-ivy-league-schools-have-one-specific-thing-in-common-2015-4

Kurt on April 10, 2015 at 2:42 pm

Someone will have to pay, for the innocent blood they shed everyday (children mark my word)

Marley on April 11, 2015 at 1:06 am

The other student who got into all 8 Ivies moved to the U.S. when he was 8, didn’t speak any English, and lived in low-income communities in a six-person home, headed by his single mom who now cleans houses for living. This person scored a perfect 2400 score on the SAT. Why don’t we hear about him in the U.S. media? Because he is a white immigrant from Bulgaria, a poor Eastern European country (link with a picture from the Bulgarian media: http://www.dnevnik.bg/sviat/2015/04/09/2510528_bulgarin_ot_sasht_e_priet_vuv_vsichkite_8_elitni/?p=0#addcomment)

As a Bulgarian immigrant myself (whose SAT, incidentally, is quite close to this Nigerian student’s and I didn’t get into any Ivy League schools), I always thought that the American system was designed to reward people like this student, whose hard work and natural talent made him DESERVE admission to such selective institutions. Unfortunately, each day spent in the US I am learning that this is not the case, as highlighted by this most recent example of the NIgerian student.

Jessina on April 11, 2015 at 1:16 pm

Debbie my dear, care to reveal what your SAT score was?

Kwasi Enin on April 28, 2016 at 12:26 pm

Debbie dear, did you do a post on Cameron Clarke, a black kid from Philadelphia who scored a perfect SAT score in 2012? He didn’t get an invitation to attend 8 ivy league colleges. The outrage. http://articles.philly.com/2012-12-18/entertainment/35871335_1_student-government-cross-country-perfect-sat-score

Kwasi Enin on April 28, 2016 at 1:01 pm

You are 100% correct that Affirmative Action is wrong. Thank God it was outlawed here in Florida. I am Native American registered as “4/4” on an AZ reservation. I am also an accomplished biomedical engineer. I have four master’s degrees. I earned three in FL without affirmative action. Jeb Bush outlawed AA in 2000. I have never heard a minority complain here in FL. No one even seems to care that it is gone. The absence of Affirmative Action has become the “norm” around here. It’s a dead relic of the 20th century in FL. Too bad it still exists in other states or the Ivy League.

RezEngineer on November 3, 2016 at 8:48 pm

Since I went to an SEC school for mechanical engineering, I like the story of a minority teen in Alabama who rejected all Ivy League schools to go to U. of Alabama. If he had gone to an Ivy League, the controversy regarding Affirmative Action would have been too annoying for him. Alabama does not officially push Affirmative Action like Colorado or Michigan back in the 1990s.
http://www.businessinsider.com/ronald-nelson-turned-down-every-ivy-league-school-for-university-of-alabama-2015-5

The “quota” version of Affirmative Action that is widely protested by conservative whites (and some minorities) is actually rooted in a racist policy by President Nixon back around 1970. At the time, the inner cities had sociological problems leading to riots. Nixon ostensibly used AA to help minorities in the inner cities. But the ulterior motive was a social policy of control rooted in white racism of the segregation era. Nixon was indeed a racist white man who grew up in the early 1900s when it was “ok to be racist.” Hence, he pushed AA. Ironically, modern Democrats and minorities often put AA on some type of pedestal of “liberal vicotry” when it is actually traceable back to Nixon’s racist ulterior motives.
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/history/features/2014/the_liberal_failure_on_race/affirmative_action_it_s_time_for_liberals_to_admit_it_isn_t_working.html

Another horrible problem is the “mismatch” it creates. A minority accepted with AA and placed into a pool of admitted students with a test score well below the median usually does not do well. AA hurts that minority. They usually burn out and drop out or finish at the bottom of the class. Or they switch out of the STEM class. AA hurts minorities badly. I personally witnessed such students in turmoil who had been admitted without the qualifications.
http://dailysignal.com/2015/12/02/how-affirmative-action-at-colleges-hurts-minority-students/http://dailysignal.com/2015/12/02/how-affirmative-action-at-colleges-hurts-minority-students/

As you noted, it also angers whites and Asians who were simultaneously not admitted despite higher test scores (e.g. MCAT, SAT, ACT, LSAT, GRE, etc). Hence, in states that still have AA the “affirmative action bake sale” is a common form of white protest against AA. It is usually controversial, and some minorities accuse them of racism. But I don’t. I know they are right.

Thankfully, Affirmative Action is gone here in FL. If minorities are admitted to a rigorous in-state program (e.g medical school, law school, PhD, etc), then AA is not used. The minority would have to get test scores and grades on par with the class. Since they are admitted without AA their graduation rates in the STEM fields are far higher than states that still have AA. The demise of AA in Florida has helped minorities tremendously. And whites and Asians don’t complain about AA in Florida because it doesn’t even exist here.

I did very well in graduate school many times. I know how it feels to get the highest score on an exam on a campus where affirmative-action was outlawed. It’s my victory against the racist bigots of rural Arizona back in early childhood. They were like those bigots in that movie “Billy Jack” long ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCSF42Q74n8

RezEngineer on November 4, 2016 at 8:33 am

This is disgusting!

Forms of white affirmative action happen all day every day throughout all of America’s institutions. It’s called “white privilege.” http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/at-the-edge/2015/05/06/institutional-racism-is-our-way-of-life

It is almost always beneficial to be white in America.

This is not necessarily the fault of each white individual but it’s very important to recognize that this discrimination exists. When you ignore or deny your privileged or complain about the VERY few instances in which it is beneficial to be a minority then you are inherently ignoring minority racism and discrimination.

Also, you have way of knowing that Affirmative Action has caused one child to be accepted over another. Academic test scores are only a portion of a college application. Ivy League schools look for much more than just grades. However, affirmative action is important. Ask yourself what the alternative is? Without it, the discrimination against minorities in academics would simply continue unregulated.

Affirmative action was never meant to be a long term solution. It has lasted so long because schools can’t seem to prove that they will fairly admit minorities without it.

TJ on January 4, 2017 at 7:24 pm

Eheh is Igbo-Nigerians, they are highly intelligent.

Even in Britain about few years ago, two young sisters of Igbo heritage scored the highest points in the country’s GCSEs. In 2013 Chindi Ota the then 16 year old got 13A’s and two As, the highest grade points “ in English language, English literature, maths, statistics, French, history, biology, chemistry, physics, RE and an ICT qualification worth three GCSEs. The two As were in sociology and German.. In 2010, her sister Chidera, who is studying medicine at Cambridge, managed to get 15 A*s in the same exams, but both insist there is no sibling rivalry,” as reported by Kentonline.

Chanda Chisala, a Visiting fellow at Stanford University in his famous essays “killing Jensen” argued factually against racial-IQ-hereditarianism and documented Igbo high academic achievements in Britain to demolish the so-called low IQ among Black Africans:

“The igbo were even more impressive given their much bigger numbers (and their consistently high performance over the years, gaining a 100 percent pass rate in 2009!). The superior Igbo achievement on GCSEs is not new and has been noted in studies that came before the recent media discovery of African performance. A 2007report on “case study” model schools in Lambeth also included a rare disclosure of specified Igbo performance (recorded as Ibo in the table below) and it confirms that Igbos have been performing exceptionally well for a long time (5 + A*-C GCSEs); in fact, it is difficult to find a time when they ever performed below British whites.”

http://www.afripol.org/afripol/item/1836-igbo-young-geniuses-%E2%80%93-ekeh-and-nna-triumph-in-new-york.html

Afripol on January 16, 2017 at 1:23 pm

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