September 27, 2016, - 12:47 pm

Debate Post-Mortem: What Trump Did & Could’ve Done; Lester Holt, Faux-“Moderator”

By Debbie Schlussel

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Well, last night’s Presidential debate lived up (or, maybe, down) to my express expectations. It was mostly a bore and, in my opinion, a draw as I predicted yesterday. Lester Holt was awful (by his design). And I think this will be forgotten in a couple of days. But here are my observations and what I think were some missed opportunities.



So, today, most of the media pundits and know-it-alls are telling us Hillary Clinton “won” the debate. Not in the debate I saw. For the first half, Donald Trump was pummeling her, and she was flailing. While she may have “recovered” in the second half, I think that half was boring, tiring, and a draw. Yes, I do believe she managed to put Trump on the defensive for part of that second half, as she attacked him on his business and his comments about “women.” But that’s where I think the opportunities were lost and Trump could have turned it on her.

As I said previously, I don’t believe that Trump didn’t prepare for the debate. He definitely did, and his great first debate half showed that. But then he seemed to retreat. That’s where those missed opportunities were. And I think that whoever coached him in the debate had a major failing: that the first lesson in a debate is to turn everything said to and about you back on and against your opponent. Trump should have done that with everything. And in most cases he didn’t. A lot of the time, he spent explaining himself and his business. He shouldn’t have wasted time on that because then that draws the focus away from his opponent and her failings. As they say, if you find yourself explaining things, you’ve already lost.

Here are some of what I mean:

* Trump never mentioned the Clinton Foundation. That’s a big deal. When Hillary said, in her opening statement, that Trump believes that helping wealthy people creates jobs, and then she criticized that. I would have somehow talked about the Clinton Foundation and how that helps just three wealthy people and gives them jobs. And I would have asked Hillary about that hypocrisy.

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* Hillary channeled the Megynecologist Kelly BS about Trump calling women fat, pigs, etc. Trump should have been prepared for that. The answer is easy: “Hillary, I agree that harassment and assault of women is a big problem in America [DS: for the record, I don’t believe that–I think it’s trumped up by the left, especially the feminist left]. You and your husband have spent decades attacking and savaging the reputations of the harassment and assault victims of your husband. And I find that reprehensible. All of America’s women deserve better than that from you and your husband, a former President who used the White House and our country’s resources to cover up his behavior and attack women. You should be ashamed.” Sadly, I believe the Trump camp told the Donald to stay away from that topic–Slick Willie’s conquests, some of them forced, and the Clinton’s campaign to discredit those women. But I think Hillary stepped into it when she brought up Trump and women, so Trump could have prefaced it by saying, “Hillary, I really didn’t want to bring this up but you opened the door with your glaring hypocrisy on this issue.” He would have scored points on this, and she would have been on the defensive, answering for her hubby’s behavior and her attacks on his sexual assault victims.

* Hillary had that line about how she prepared for the debate and she prepared for President. Trump should have responded by asking, “Hillary, is the way you abandoned our Ambassador and our military and diplomatic men and women in Benghazi how you prepare for being President. If that’s the kind of President you’d be, G-d help us. Hillary, you had a private e-mail server with classified information in your basement bathroom. And even FBI Director Comey said you were careless and jeopardized our national security. That’s how you prepared to be President? You were the architect of the Iran nuclear deal, which put Iran closer than ever to having a nuclear bomb. It’s the worst deal in history. That’s the kind of President you prepared to be? Then you should file a malpractice suit against whoever prepared you.

* When Trump questioned Hillary’s stamina and she talked about traveling around the world negotiating treaties and testifying before Congress for 11 hours, I would have brought up the aforementioned failed Iran deal of which she was the architect. I also would have said, “Hillary, if you hadn’t allowed Americans to be murdered in Benghazi and jeopardized America’s national security with your private bathroom e-mail server, you wouldn’t have had to testify before Congress for 11 hours. That’s the kind of President you’ll be–getting us into one mess after the other, one catastrophe after another.”

* When Hillary called for “criminal justice reform,” Trump could’ve responded that we can start by indicting a certain criminal who was let off the hook. Same thing when she called for a “special prosecutor” on something that didn’t need one (please excuse my bad grammar in the tweet – I’m the queen of typos) . . .

* When Hillary said Trump was in the back pocket of Wall Street, that was a total hypocrisy that needed to be called out. . .

* When Hillary said the police need “more education” and other baloney, I would have asked Hillary if she will denounce or disavow “Black Lives Matter” and their calls to murder police, as well as the chaos that it has fomented. Trump alluded to this, but didn’t put her on the spot, like he should’ve.

And there are many other instances in which he could have turned it around against her. He shouldn’t have responded to her about the $14 million loan his father gave him. He should have turned it around on her and asked about her using the State Department and the Clinton Foundation to illegally make millions in pay for play fees and Bill Clinton speaking engagements and ask her if the White House will be used as the Bill Clinton speaking fee agency. Any time she mentioned his business practices, he, again, should have turned it around to her sleazy operatives like Cheryl Mills who demanded immunity from prosecution. He should have turned it around on the Clinton Foundation, etc. Her “business” practices in the public sector are far more deplorable than his in the private sector. And speaking of “deplorables,” he could also have mentioned and used that in response to her Megyn-Kelly-channeling on name-calling of women. “Hillary, you called at least a quarter of America, ‘deplorable.’ That’s despicable. Now, you want to be their President–these ‘little people’ you look down upon because they don’t live in Chappaqua and wear a $15,000 blazer like you do?” Turn the elitism on its head. For all intents and purposes, Hillary is as disproportionately wealthy versus most Americans as Trump is.

One other thing: in his post-debate comment on yesterday’s preview post, reader Ken B brings up another rejoinder Trump could’ve used on the “women” thing.

Her foundation/slush fund(which Lester Dolt didn’t bring up-at all) has taken millions from countries that treat women worse than they treat their camels. Countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE.

And, also, I’m sorry but I can’t help it: when Hillary said we “need to vacuum up the intelligence” in the Middle East to beat ISIS, I heard vacuum. Then, I thought Hoover. Then, I thought, Monica. Trump couldn’t say this at the debate, but I can say it on Twitter . . .

By the way, Hillary missed quite a few opportunities, too, such as when Trump said she’s been “fighting ISIS all [her] life,” when ISIS is only about three years old or so . . .

Finally, there is Lester Holt. He was no moderator. He was a bore. On top of that, he was Hillary’s “fact-checker,” or as I call it, faux-checker. He never once did that with Hillary. He bent over backward (or is that, forward?) for her. That was to be expected. This is the same as in every debate in recent decades. The “moderators” are Democratic propagandists in drag. That’s just the way it is. And it’s time to answer them back with that live on TV.

The good news is that the debate, as I also predicted yesterday, is irrelevant, and in a few days the polls won’t even reflect that a debate happened (if they even do now, which I don’t believe). Debates, as I noted, just don’t matter that much to election results . . . unless a major screw-up happens. And there were no Hillary coughing fits or fainting spells or collapsing episodes. Trump was mostly restrained, too. Too restrained.

For the second half, the debate just made me sleepy and wishing both of them would shut up. I think most voters probably felt that way. The debate should have been an hour. It was too long.

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47 Responses

EXCELLENT ANALYSIS!

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EARL MANN on September 27, 2016 at 1:37 pm

    Either some very senior Trump advisors are in Hillary’s pay, or Trump himself has been threatened into throwing the election to Hillary.

    Remember a billionaire has a billion reasons to keep on the good side of government. Barry loves humiliating white men.

    More seriously, the “deep state” can easily murder or maim a member of Trump’s family and nobody will be the wiser.

    Did they “get to” Trump?

    Guardian Angel on October 3, 2016 at 2:21 pm

Excellent! You wrote just want I wanted to read about the debate, the TRUTH. With Cankles Clinton it is more than easy to bury her with her lawlessness, crookery and sociopathic personality. He did just as you said at first, pummeled her (AND IT WAS BEAUTIFUL!!!) but then faded. Why? As I stated, she is so easy to make look like the NOTHING & greedy opportunist she is. Why did he stop? Spot on about his explaining…I could feel it in my bones when he started down that road. Big WOMP!

Why, why, why will no one go after she & her perverted & prevaricating husband TO THEIR FACE? Everyone sure likes to joke about them in all other ways…it has never gotten old…these cretinous Clintons DESERVE to have their filthy behaviour rubbed back in their disgusting, ghastly faces. Trump let that slide. That sucks!

How can you expect to beat this crooked, sick family if you’re not gonna go for the guts? It’s sickening. Somebody post that snap of all 3 of them at Trumps wedding. That does tell some of the tale & you’re dopey if you can’t see it.

No one can name a POSITIVE accomplishment of that lumpy sack of crap Cankles Clinton (she also got all she ever was from a MAN…her big, perverted creepo hubby!!!). She loves kids supposedly…what the eff has she ever done for them? We know she got a rapist of a 12-YO girl off easy and was proud of it. Am I supposed to love that pile of garbage for that? What has she done for kids? Name one bloody thing. I wanna know because she has been schlepping that line of lip-service for almost 30 years now. If she can spew that crap tell Lena Dunham to start claiming she’s America’s prettiest & most stable woman…and she can also claim her fem-bot boyfriend is super-manly, too if we so easliy buy Cankles’ fairytales!

All I see are a bunch of Bogans in the bag for this bitch and even more stupid drones supporting a sociopathic pile of vomit with a wild history of being mad, bad & dangerous to know. She is only one psychopathic pig but what about the millions of DUMB Americans who can’t see what is in front of them? Perhaps they just don’t care. American culture has been circling the drain for decades now. Sometimes low-lifes like to roll in feces filled mud rather than clean water.

We are getting just what we deserve. And don’t let the frauds fool you…the end began when Obama-Putin won in 2008. No need to move the goal post when it was cemented way back when. The best is gone & now we are just dumped in the filth & effluvia of what America has become. The United States Of Kardashian…& now we will get a super-ill sicko, muffin-assed, selfish sack of rancid warthog piss for our President. Oh Joy!!!

Skunky on September 27, 2016 at 1:45 pm

    Hey Skunky dear please tell us how you really feel about the Pig In A Pantsuit. Well done my friend.

    Ken B on September 27, 2016 at 2:02 pm

Such a good puppet for the darkness that rules us.
Fear and hatred will never win over fear and hatred.
Nothing except light will eliminate the dark.
Nothing but cooperation and love will eliminate chaos and hate.
Those that profit from all our suffering thank you for hammering home their message, and oiur destruction.
Peace and love to you and yours. Go ahead and delete this, once uttered it is never erases from our infinitely connected mind

TeddieMarie on September 27, 2016 at 2:21 pm

Yup, I agree. Trump missed MANY opportunities to criticize Hillary’s record and missed. When she discussed all things being done to stop terrorism in the US, he should have mentioned her support of illegal immigration that lets in terrorists. That’s just one example of many as you already mentioned.

Hillel on September 27, 2016 at 2:59 pm

By pulling his punches, I hope he doesn’t plan to throw the election like McCain and Romney.

John on September 27, 2016 at 3:03 pm

    If Trump ever was planning on throwing the election I don’t think he could do that by not winning the debates; they just don’t make that much difference. Further, he is too polished a performer to totally choke on live camera. Plus his ego won’t let him lay down and die for Hillary. Even if he started out as a straw man so Hillary would win they are now about dead even and I think he means to win.

    Richard on September 27, 2016 at 11:28 pm

Excellent analysis Debbie. If the contestants really wanted to turn this into a World Wrestling Entertainment Event then have Bobby Lashley pile drive Lester Holt through the table. The audience truly would have gone into pandemonium and ratings would have gone through the roof.

Yeah rah Skunky.

Confederate on September 27, 2016 at 3:03 pm

    Confederate,

    Either that or get the Team 3D aka The Dudley Boyz to “Dudley Death Drop” Lester Dolt through the moderator’s table. I can just see it now. “Devon get the table!”

    Ken B on September 27, 2016 at 3:19 pm

Great analysis Debbie. Yes Trump missed many opportunities to stick it to Killary Kankles. The biggest for me was cyber security. I’m under treat of jail time (and not Andy Griffith jail) if I had done just one shred of what the PIAPS did. Yet this corrupt, shrill, greedy fake harridan could be the next C-in-C. She with the help of that low-T wimp Dolt had Trump get bogged down with irrelevant things like the birther issue and his tax returns. He should’ve did some verbal jujitsu and been done with them. He should hire you Debbie because he needs to be really on his toes for the town hall format “moderated” by ABC’s “This Is Weak” cohost Martha Rad-ditz. Remember this dig bat harpy. She helped Joey “Roaming Hands” Biden run over Lyin’ Ryan in the 2012 VP debate. We know who she will try to help out. Hopefully it will also be more exciting than yesterday.

Ken B on September 27, 2016 at 3:11 pm

Good take on last night’s debate.

Joe on September 27, 2016 at 4:25 pm

I am charmed by Hillary’s North Carolina accent, exhibited today for, what I believe, is the first time.

I really think Trump made only one mistake yesterday, that is, in so many words, saying people who pay taxes are stupid. Too easy for Hillary to capitalize on it.

It is hard not to be defensive when you are personally attacked by both the moderator and the (other) opponent. I think Trump also realized that the things Hillary and Lester were saying have also been the subject of many of Hillary’s negative ads, and I think he was afraid they might have some resonance among women if not refuted.

I think he was trying to strike a balance between responding and turning her remarks around on the one hand, and making it seem to women that he was too aggressive, especially in light of the drumbeat campaign against his temperament during the past year-and-a-half. I think given the climate in this country he wanted to avoid ‘beating up on her too much.’

He may have felt the first half was enough, and he would wait and see the reaction in the polls, not only the online ones which virtually all showed him the victor, consistent with my own belief, but the ones covered on sites like Real Clear Politics.

He did show he was capable of deflecting her zingers, no small accomplishment. For instance, when she said that by not paying taxes, he was depriving this and that group of Government aid, he immediately retorted the money would have been squandered. When she said (paraphrasing) that he seemed to be attacking her for ‘everything’, he said: “why not”?

It was interesting to me that I have seen very little post-debate criticism, relatively speaking, of his political positions. It is all things like “he didn’t stay on topic”, “he didn’t state his positions clearly enough” and so on. Little of substance. That alone is somewhat of a victory for him and increases the difficulty of eroding his support.

I also noticed that the ‘conservative’ pundits who criticized him the most are generally either never-Trumpers or else are associated with news outlets that are effectively anti-Trump.

Their comments about Hillary remind me a little of Pravda’s 100% praise of Comrade Stalin’s speeches. Whatever Stalin said, Pravda would praise him and condemn the adversary of the moment. Not quite that bad here yet, but we’re getting there.

Little Al on September 27, 2016 at 4:51 pm

    Of course, in my last paragraph, I meant the media’s comments about Hillary.

    Little Al on September 27, 2016 at 5:59 pm

As support for what I am suggesting, Trump has said several times that he thinks Lester Holt did a good job (while at the same time pointing out his bias). Of course Trump knows Holt did not do a good job, but it is consistent with deliberately holding in his punches a little

Little Al on September 27, 2016 at 4:56 pm

Trump should have also pointed out, “If you are so much into helping women with equal pay, Hillary, why is it that your female aides got paid way LESS than male aides?” “Why do you demand that businesses pay women equal pay, but you get a carte blanche to do otherwise?”

A.S. on September 27, 2016 at 5:10 pm

I also noticed that their colors were the original demoncrat and repulsivecrat from several years ago. Hillary wore red, not blue. And Trump wore blue, not red.

A.S. on September 27, 2016 at 5:12 pm

Honestly when you think about it, It was his stamina that was in question. First 30 minutes or so, he had her good, she was on the ropes, then he flamed. Just flamed. Someone slip Trump some Adderral . 80 million people, he could have closed it right there. Insane numbers. Round 2 he will be better but…

Oh and Howie Dean cocaine joke, Flat. none funny.

MrBigBrain on September 27, 2016 at 6:45 pm

There were a lot of things that Cankles herself said that defied credulity in their own right – pretty separate from everything she said to and about Trump.

For instance, the answer about preparing for the debate being a preparation for the presidency – WTF? How does that prepare anyone for becoming president? That was one of the stupidest answers.

The thing about Holt that irked me was not his partisanship (although that was part of it): it was the relevance of his questions to the issues. How is either Trump’s tax returns or his comments on Obama’s birthplace relevant to the issues? He avoided touching either the Clinton server or the Clinton foundation, but those, while seemingly exclusive to Clinton, are about national security. The server being about foreign powers cracking national secrets, and the foundation being about play for pay.

Also, while Trump kept it about issues, Clinton kept bringing up Trump. He should hit back at her on both the server and the foundation, and also bring up the Russian Uranium deals.

Infidel on September 27, 2016 at 6:48 pm

You are quite right. It is often possible to flip a negative comment or question given by one’s opponent. Trump could have brushed off the misogyny accusations by bring up the fact that Hillary enabled her husband Bill’s serial harassment and sexual exploitation of women over the years. Trump could have also asked why she kept on her staff a woman, Huma Abedin, who tolerated and enabled her husband’s deviant tendencies? Anthony Weiner thought of women as sex objects at best. These are things that it would have been fair to go into.

Worry01 on September 27, 2016 at 8:01 pm

Donald put the ego down, keep some notes. Notes. Its not that big of a deal. Ben Rothlesberg, Aaron Rodgers, and even Tom Brady keep plays on wrist ban. Get with it Don. Stop the stupidity and beat Hillary.

MrBigBrain on September 27, 2016 at 8:12 pm

Two points:

1. It has been reported that wich Hillary got all the questions that would be asked at the debate in advance.

2. Lester the molester gave Trump 6 follow up questions. Gyno woman Hillary got zero.

The whole thing was a sham. The Trumpster better come out swinging at the next one. Whatever the hell you think about Trump, start thinking about Supreme Court appointments, immigration, etc. etc.

No Hill on September 27, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    YES, Hillary’s own WELL-REHEARSED, SCRIPTED performance strongly suggests that she had prepared precisely for the questions that were asked, with some options for follow-up depending on one or two

    Hillary never went off-SCRIPT, had far too much recall for an open-ended debate, and never flubbed an answer. That in itself is bizarre – Hillary is not the “think on your feet” type, least of all in a tense, ultra-high-stakes situation with only 6 waking hours a day to prepare.

    Guardian Angel on October 6, 2016 at 1:08 am

I totally agree with you Debbie on the shots Trump could have made. Maybe he could have made half just to be conservative in the first debate.

I was just shaking my head over her “solar panels” point

skzion on September 27, 2016 at 10:38 pm

He was nervous and on the defensive when he could have easily turned the issues Debbie brings up right back to Clinton in an onslaught! Specifically internet security, the ridiculously stupid question by Holt on his change , supposedly, on the Iraq war, and a few other issues.

Howard on September 28, 2016 at 10:03 am

Trump also missed an easy two for one slam. He could have and should have brought up Hillary not doing any press conferences since last year. Which is over 270 days, and we know the liberal media has not pressed her on it. In fact he could have said I have given many press conferences but I guess you are either afraid to answer questions without being prepared or too ill for press conferences.

Glen Benjamin on September 28, 2016 at 10:55 am

We also should not forget this woman has a lifetime of debating skill as a lawyer and politician. Trump did OK for his first one on one being a Presidential debate. However, he needs to be much better prepared next time debating.

Glen Benjamin on September 28, 2016 at 10:57 am

Lester Holt, first and foremost, is black. And from my own experience as a journalist, I can tell you black journalists are especially hostile toward whites who defend their identity. However, they will make exceptions for whites like Hillary, ever ready to Third World-ize our nation.

Welcome to the age of “newsroom diversity.” Major news organizations, along with journalism professional development centers (e.g., Harvard’s Nieman Fellowship Program), generally are fanatic practitioners of affirmative action. And it’s going to get worse before people like me finally push back.

P: I don’t disagree. But FYI/Point of information, while Holt identifies as Black, he is also part Asian Indian (part of his family is from Calcutta, originally). That is why he is so light-skinned. His wife is White, and his sons look White and are less than half Black. DS

Primetime on September 28, 2016 at 11:37 am

    Do you buy claims that Holt and Clinton were in cahoots?

    adam on September 29, 2016 at 12:46 am

we are bourne back ceaselessly from the current. And so we beat on boats against the current. Bourne ceaselessly back against our will.

karen on September 28, 2016 at 3:09 pm

and so we beat on. Boats against the current.

karen on September 28, 2016 at 3:12 pm

Debbie. not joking or trying to be rude. But why are you not married? I’m just curious. Don’t answer if you don’t want. curious.. KARWE

karen on September 28, 2016 at 3:39 pm

Malachi 4:1 For behold, the day is coming burning like an oven, when all the arrogant and all evildoers will be stubble. the day that is coming shall set the ablaze, says the Lord of hosts.

karen on September 28, 2016 at 3:50 pm

Be pretty hard for her to be married with her career path. Not many men with the courage to marry someone that strong, or willing to live with a wife who sneaks in to mosques in disguise and is on various Islamic hit lists.

It could also be, . . . she just hasn’t found someone she feels like saying yes to. Not too many great prospects out there in this depraved world. Debbie obviously and rightly has high standards. Of course, if people behaved properly, those standards wouldn’t be considered high, they’d be considered normal, and there would be more good prospects.

In simpler terms, men really suck and Debbie is quite aware of that.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on September 28, 2016 at 4:33 pm

Debbie, a constructive analysis. You nailed it.

Bringing up Obama and the Birther saga so repeatedly is becoming highly suspicious. Trump could have turned this issue around and asked what happened to Barry Soetaro, the person with the Indonesian passport who suddenly vanished under a pile of $1 MILLION legal costs. So much for DemoCrap transparency.

HRC plagued by new disorder – debating facial itch syndrome.

Another HRC disorder ‘gross lumps and bumps in pantsuit, was there something wanting to get out’
subject: Photos: What’s That Under Hillary’s Pantsuit During Last Night’s Debate?

EYES WIDE OPEN on September 28, 2016 at 5:02 pm

I wish you could coach Donald J. Trump before the next two
debates. You would certainly show him how it’s done.

Lotuslander on September 28, 2016 at 5:10 pm

Yes, she would!!! Maybe (hopefully) someone from his camp will read this article.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on September 28, 2016 at 6:54 pm

Hillary > Trump.

Trump’s only foreign policy talent is claiming he was against things he was for (i.e. he somewhat supported the Iraq War, just like Hillary, he wanted the troops out of Iraq even sooner, he wanted the U.S. to go into Libya, etc.).

Unlike Hillary, he sucks up to dictators and has a son who pals up to white supremacists on Twitter and uses a new version of Julius Streicher’s old analogy, now with “skittles”.

Bee on September 28, 2016 at 7:32 pm

Here’s Trump on Libya in February 2011 (presumably while taking a break from questioning Obama’s birthplace).

“I can’t believe what our country is doing… Qaddafi in Libya is killing thousands of people, nobody knows how bad it is, and we’re sitting around we have soldiers all have the Middle East, and we’re not bringing them in to stop this horrible carnage and that’s what it is: It’s a carnage”

Bee on September 28, 2016 at 7:33 pm

Why do I suspect “Bee” is a previously banned troll?

Bee, sweetheart, Hilz is so acquisitive that she set up an email server to facilitate graft when she was in the process of running for president. That’s compulsive behavior. Her server was hacked. She is, for this reason alone, disqualified for president: she can’t keep secrets.

It’s one thing to bash Trump, but your absurd a>b inequality would be risible if the matter weren’t so serious.

skzion on September 28, 2016 at 9:00 pm

Hillary’s job: get blacks and young people to the polls. The whole Charlotte thing is an attempt to blacks “worked up.” I don’t think it’s going to work. Went to the well too many times.

The Trump as woman-hater is designed to get young single women to the polls. I don’t think that will work either. BTW: Lester Holt and Clinton definitely cooked that up in advance, definitely.

adam on September 29, 2016 at 12:45 am

Since DS is an attorney, and obviously skilled at debate and cross-examination, she maybe should consider offering to help prep D.Trump for the next debate? Her points about the first one were ‘spot on’.

waynesteapartyworld on October 2, 2016 at 10:55 am

    If Trump wants to win, Debbie is his best chance. And no, people like Debbie are NOT easy to find, certainly not within the RNC establishment.

    Guardian Angel on October 3, 2016 at 2:26 pm

What do you think about the rumors that Hillary and Holt secretly got together and worked out hand signals to tell him to interrupt Trump, and other things?

CharlesMartel on October 2, 2016 at 10:02 pm

    Definitely not. Dolt is not a smart player. He was told to interrupt WHENEVER HE COULD, and did so.

    Guardian Angel on October 3, 2016 at 2:28 pm

Ha ha, I woke to Hillary this morning all of a sudden being Mrs Pro Business ha ha ha. Donald getting killed on his taxes because he worked it, legally. How is that a narrative? No one wants to pay taxes. We pay them because of the law. Now he’s a villain. Oh how they twist things. Donald take a back seat, then if you win, you can gloat you did it your way. We don’t care, just stop giving this election away.

MrBigBrain on October 3, 2016 at 8:42 pm

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